Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

Mars Bar

New thread!

Old thread can be found here.

Robin is happy about the new thread.

Kylo Ren

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Kerrigooney

Hi.

Maximus Alexander

Hi, I'm in the new thread.

For posterity, just yesterday United beat Arsenal 1-0 at Old Trafford. We are all way more excited about that than we would have been last year.

Donnielighto

Keno wrote: »

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Whurr?

Jimmy Iovine

Just in case things go down hill later on in the season, we can always enjoy this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzcVKgxYMk

LostBoy101

He has still has that "Fergie time"

IvySlayer

Is that Moyes's wife beside Fergie?

Clutches her handbag as soon as Fergie stands up ready to go

yabadabado

evening all

bucketybuck

Valencia sux!

Oregano_State

Hi guys.

xtal191

kryogen

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ROBIN VAN PERSIE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ROBIN VAN PERSIE!!!!!!!!!

NUTZZ

Evans described yesterday as the best atmosphere ever at Old Trafford that he has experienced.

it was pretty bouncing alright, how did it sound on TV?

I couldn't tell if it was because the T.V is so loud in the pub but it sounded great!

It was unbelievable! Hands down the best atmosphere I've experienced in Old Trafford and far better than any of the recent derbies I've been to.

We sang from the first minute to the last and finished up with the "20 Times!" chant in the 93rd minute that made the hairs on your neck standup!

Rayne Wooney

This thread will be forever cursed unless it's predecessor finishes on a prime number

n32

NUTZZ wrote: »

It was unbelievable! Hands down the best atmosphere I've experienced in Old Trafford and far better than any of the recent derbies I've been to.

We sang from the first minute to the last and finished up with the "20 Times!" chant in the 93rd minute that made the hairs on your neck standup!

It was just behind the real madrid game for atmosphere. Stretford end and east stand were absolutely bouncing yesterday. Turning off the PA system before the teams come out has made a big difference to the atmosphere pre game.

homerjay2005

n32 wrote: »

It was just behind the real madrid game for atmosphere. Stretford end and east stand were absolutely bouncing yesterday. Turning off the PA system before the teams come out has made a big difference to the atmosphere pre game.

think its more to do with the fact that the team are struggling and the fans are getting behind them more.

the signing section has woke up a few lads also. the east stand looked class from the strettie, which helped also. now if only people in the north and south would wake up and we'd have the best atmosphere in the league!

arsenal fans were hopeless though, worst away fans in years.

The_Kew_Tour

homerjay2005 wrote: »

arsenal fans were hopeless though, worst away fans in years.

Every time I have been to OT Everton fans have been the most disappointing when it comes to away support.

Arsenal are never great, but Everton are poorest for me surprisingly.

n32

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Every time I have been to OT Everton fans have been the most disappointing when it comes to away support.

Arsenal are never great, but Everton are poorest for me surprisingly.

Surprised at everton. Read somewhere that they sell out their allocation for every away game and i ve been to a few united everton games at goodison and the atmospher there was very good. Arsenal fans were pathetic . Schalke in the cl semi final in 2011 were most impressive i ve seen with ac milan in 2010 not far off them

The_Kew_Tour

n32 wrote: »

Surprised at everton. Read somewhere that they sell out their allocation for every away game and i ve been to a few united everton games at goodison and the atmospher there was very good. Arsenal fans were pathetic . Schalke in the cl semi final in 2011 were most impressive i ve seen with ac milan in 2010 not far off them

Goodison is terrific. One of my favourite away grounds along with WHL and St James.

Always surprised they aint louder when they play at OT.

Off top of my head I have been to 6 Everton home games and each time disappointed with them.

Was in the East Stand when we played them in evening Kick off in November 2009 and they were still poor.

n32

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Goodison is terrific. One of my favourite away grounds along with WHL and St James.

Always surprised they aint louder when they play at OT.

Off top of my head I have been to 6 Everton home games and each time disappointed with them.

Was in the East Stand when we played them in evening Kick off in November 2009 and they were still poor.

Goodison is an unreal ground. Its like stepping back 50 years when you go into the away end. It has a real character about it compared to the new type of prototype stadium like reebok, kc , st marys etc

Your Airbag

I noticed DDG had two great punches yesterday. It looks like he is happy to do this rather than try catch the ball like previous seasons.

Chris Woods and the rest of the staffs changes are start to take shape on the pitch, the managment team and the players are finding their feet

Oh and DDG has monster puch, look at this beauty

IncognitoMan

I'd struggle to kick it that far

kryogen

Your Airbag wrote: »

I noticed DDG had two great punches yesterday. It looks like he is happy to do this rather than try catch the ball like previous seasons.

Chris Woods and the rest of the staffs changes are start to take shape on the pitch, the managment team and the players are finding their feet

Oh and DDG has monster puch, look at this beauty

Don't know if you can put that improvement down to the coach, he was steadily improving that part of his game all the time anyway

(He was punching last season and still catches this season )

homerjay2005

am i right in saying that this RVP stat is true (put it together myself following a discussion before the game yesterday)

RVP has played against 20 different PL teams in the league for Man United scoring against 18 of them, but only has scored a goal in the Stretford end against one team.

anybody know who that team is!? the two teams he has not scored against are QPR and Norwich by the way! (he has not played against Hull and Cardiff yet).

given the fact that we normally attack the strettie in the second half, it would suggest that practically all of his old trafford goals have come in the first half and apart from a few against City, Swansea and west brom most of his goals in general come in the first half.

Would that be a sign that we are retreating too much in games and are isolating our striker the more the games go on?

The_Kew_Tour

Stoke couple weeks ago?

n32

homerjay2005 wrote: »

am i right in saying that this RVP stat is true (put it together myself following a discussion before the game yesterday)



anybody know who that team is!? the two teams he has not scored against are QPR and Norwich by the way! (he has not played against Hull and Cardiff yet).

given the fact that we normally attack the strettie in the second half, it would suggest that practically all of his old trafford goals have come in the first half and apart from a few against City, Swansea and west brom most of his goals in general come in the first half.

Would that be a sign that we are retreating too much in games and are isolating our striker the more the games go on?

Stoke this season and last season. Rvp did get a 2nd half goal at OT but it was into the east stand v newcastle on stephens day last year and v wba 2 days later also into east stand

Son Of A Vidic

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Just in case things go down hill later on in the season, we can always enjoy this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzcVKgxYMk

Weird, that video made me happy and sad at the same time. A great result on Sunday and I was particularly delighted for Moyes.

DM_7

Interesting thoughts on Phil Jones

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/11/manchester-united-phil-jones-england-defender

Beyond this the other answer to the Jones conundrum is that he's not really a conundrum after all. Better perhaps to see him simply as a very modern, generation-next kind of footballer, a re-gearing of the utility defender for an age when attack itself has become ever more diffuse. Midfielders and strikers have experienced a general opening out, a relaxing of the old positional certainties. Surely it is time for defensive players also to become more fluent and adaptable, just as Jones's expertly enacted role against Arsenal was a response to a specific fluidity in the opposition in that area of the pitch.

Can players like Jones be deployed in a way that changes how defences operate or is that reading way to much into how he plays when in midfield? With likes of Sergio Ramos, Busquets, Lahm around is it a change at all, are clubs like United simply playing catch up?

dahat

Kagawa and Reus in some sort of swap being moted by James Ducker of The Times. One of the better journo's as regards Utd.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3919712.ece

IamtheWalrus

Another international break??

Lovely Bloke

dahat wrote: »

Kagawa and Reus in some sort of swap being moted by James Ducker of The Times. One of the better journo's as regards Utd.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3919712.ece

Certain posters, who's knowledge of the Bundesliga is unequalled around here, have already rubbished any idea thatb Reus would leave Dortmund.

Mitch Connor

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Certain posters, who's knowledge of the Bundesliga is unequalled around here, have already rubbished any idea thatb Reus would leave Dortmund.

For anyone, ever. such a shame for everyone else.

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Stoke couple weeks ago?

yep....from my knowledge, Stoke are the only PL team that RVP has scored against at the Stretford end. considering he now has 40 goals for us, its pretty amazing stat.


another interesting one -

Manchester United have lost just one of the 29 Premier League games that Smalling has played at Old Trafford - they have won 26 and drawn two.

Cantona's Collars

Speaking of stats,I think the commentator yesterday said something similar about us not losing when about Rooney & RVP playing together.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Just back from the game. Mad weekend. On the DDG punchs I noticed in the warm (while mangaling my pepper steak pie) the coaches were crossing balls just for DDG too punch rather then catch

I was in the Stretford end upper and by far THE best atmosphere I've ever expirenced! The "his eyes are offside " chant had me in stiches! I really hope it came across on tv as the stadium was rocking!! Only thing missing IMO was a thats why were champions chant at the very end but the 20 times chants more then made up for it!!

The_Kew_Tour

Being saying this for few years but I think Smalling will turn into a great player

v3ttel

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Certain posters, who's knowledge of the Bundesliga is unequalled around here, have already rubbished any idea thatb Reus would leave Dortmund.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11899/9021767/borussia-dortmund-attacker-marco-reus-does-have-release-clause-in-his-contract

If I could pick one player to come to United apart from Messi/Ronaldo, it would be Reus. He is absolutely brilliant, and is more suited to a wide role than Kagawa.

Cantona's Collars

Great to hear OT rocking like that,I think the days of fans turning up expecting to win like it was a divine right while the stands were almost silent are behind us for a while.
Fans seem to have realised that they are becoming the 12th man again,even games where we haven't been doing well in have had great atmosphere's.Take the Stoke game as an example,almost constant noise whereas before the place would have been like a morgue.Perhaps the new singing section has helped but I feel this is just part of it.

When you see an auld one roaring the team on instead of the usual sitting there with arms folded you know something good is happening with the crowd.

Mitch Connor

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Being saying this for few years but I think Smalling will turn into a great player

Personally, I think he has the most potential of the 'young' centre backs. Give him a run at CB and he could make the spot his own. I honestly think he has world class potential.

ericzeking

The great thing about the second punch from DDG was the fact that he took out Vidic as well...obviously I don't want to see our players getting hurt or injured but purely from the goalkeepers perspective it was great to see so much authority, the lad just keeps on improving and learning, if we keep him happy we are set for the next 15 years for a keeper.

Delighted with the result. Looked very comfortable for long stretches though we were hanging on a bit in the second half, we were hanging on in such a way that you didn't really believe Arsenal would score.

The team is looking real solid defensively lately, it's a basis from which we can really kick on.

Mitch Connor

v3ttel wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11899/9021767/borussia-dortmund-attacker-marco-reus-does-have-release-clause-in-his-contract

If I could pick one player to come to United apart from Messi/Ronaldo, it would be Reus. He is absolutely brilliant, and is more suited to a wide role than Kagawa.

Read on RedIssue (main forum, decent poster) that Draxler is a major target - so it could be we are looking at both of them, hoping we get one of them. (surely we couldn't get both!)

magnumbud

ericzeking wrote: »

The great thing about the second punch from DDG was the fact that he took out Vidic as well...obviously I don't want to see our players getting hurt or injured but purely from the goalkeepers perspective it was great to see so much authority, the lad just keeps on improving and learning, if we keep him happy we are set for the next 15 years for a keeper.

Delighted with the result. Looked very comfortable for long stretches though we were hanging on a bit in the second half, we were hanging on in such a way that you didn't really believe Arsenal would score.

The team is looking real solid defensively lately, it's a basis from which we can really kick on.

there was one earlier(where he managed to not take out a teammate ) where the ball nearly reached the halfway line was very impressed he is becoming the complete keeper. hope we tie him down to a long long contract. can see madrid and barca coming in for him eventually

ericzeking

magnumbud wrote: »

there was one earlier(where he managed to not take out a teammate ) where the ball nearly reached the halfway line was very impressed he is becoming the complete keeper. hope we tie him down to a long long contract. can see madrid and barca coming in for him eventually

Barca would be the worry alright, having come up through the system at Athletico I would have thought Real would be unlikely.

I bet when Vidic watches it back he will be delighted that DDG took him out, it's exactly what defenders need, that assertiveness. I think it will help Vidic to trust DDG more as it has been noticeable how close Vidic tends to get to DDG when crosses come in as he tries to deal with it rather than leaving the keeper do so. I mentioned here before that some of the mistakes DDG has been credited with were as a result of defenders (usually Vidic) essentially getting in his way. They will think twice in future!

Cookiemunster

v3ttel wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11899/9021767/borussia-dortmund-attacker-marco-reus-does-have-release-clause-in-his-contract

If I could pick one player to come to United apart from Messi/Ronaldo, it would be Reus. He is absolutely brilliant, and is more suited to a wide role than Kagawa.

According to Honigstein the release clause is common knowledge in Germany for over a year, but it doesn't kick in until summer 2015.

magnumbud

ericzeking wrote: »

Barca would be the worry alright, having come up through the system at Athletico I would have thought Real would be unlikely.

I bet when Vidic watches it back he will be delighted that DDG took him out, it's exactly what defenders need, that assertiveness. I think it will help Vidic to trust DDG more as it has been noticeable how close Vidic tends to get to DDG when crosses come in as he tries to deal with it rather than leaving the keeper do so. I mentioned here before that some of the mistakes DDG has been credited with were as a result of defenders (usually Vidic) essentially getting in his way. They will think twice in future!

yeah i wouldnt expect him to go to Real but doesnt stop real coming out and saying they want him in their special way.

Cantona's Collars

magnumbud wrote: »

yeah i wouldnt expect him to go to Real but doesnt stop real coming out and saying they want him in their special way.

There's another 'keeper in Manchester who could be available soon,Madrid can have him & hands off our Dave.

KH25

dahat wrote: »

Kagawa and Reus in some sort of swap being moted by James Ducker of The Times. One of the better journo's as regards Utd.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3919712.ece

Id take that, but if theres a Dortmund player we are after it should be Gundogan.

Cantona's Collars

Gundongan,Reus,Khedeira & Di Maria all in the papers since Saturday.If by some miracle we buy all 4 this place will explode.

homerjay2005

zerks wrote: »

Gundongan,Reus,Khedeira & Di Maria all in the papers since Saturday.If by some miracle we buy all 4 this place will explode.

ah come on lad, have you not learned anything!? odds and history would suggest that we will sign none of them unless as you said, a miracle happens.

Lord TSC

Given they turned down a 40m offer for Khedira in the summer, I'm not sure if I'd be happy with out interest in him continuing...