Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

ericzeking

homerjay2005 wrote: »

with so many injuries at the moment, its really hard to tell.

would assume pretty much the same team as the last day anyway, with Buttner and fletcher coming in and perhaps nani too.

Fabio at RB would be nice, though Rafael needs game time.

Fabio at left back, we need to look at alternatives to Evra big time, not only in the coming windows but right now, he is a serious liability defensively. Not sure if Buttner will cut the mustard so would like a look at Fabio there.

Cantona's Collars

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I'll take 2.;)

We have no hope if getting 2 of those, slim chance of 1 and maybe a glimmer of hope of the other.

Love the optimism Kew,this place would combust if we got a couple of them.I've a sneaky feeling Moyes already has a couple of deals in place considering how public he's been about players leaving the club,he wouldn't have said anything if he didn't have replacements lined up (or maybe I'm just hoping against hope)

magnumbud

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I am really looking forward to Stoke on Wednesday. A break away from the league is welcome.

Who deserves a start.

Chico and Kagawa should start?

think i read chico is injured too now.

The_Kew_Tour

zerks wrote: »

Love the optimism Kew,this place would combust if we got a couple of them.I've a sneaky feeling Moyes already has a couple of deals in place considering how public he's been about players leaving the club,he wouldn't have said anything if he didn't have replacements lined up (or maybe I'm just hoping against hope)

I think we will buy 1 decent player in January. Think that will be our lot.

Who? im not sure.

homerjay2005

zerks wrote: »

Love the optimism Kew,this place would combust if we got a couple of them.I've a sneaky feeling Moyes already has a couple of deals in place considering how public he's been about players leaving the club,he wouldn't have said anything if he didn't have replacements lined up (or maybe I'm just hoping against hope)

does anybody have the transcript of where Moyes mentioned about players leaving?

not seen/heard it, so interested in seeing how it went and what exactly he said.

Devil08

homerjay2005 wrote: »

does anybody have the transcript of where Moyes mentioned about players leaving?

not seen/heard it, so interested in seeing how it went and what exactly he said.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9074685/premier-league-david-moyes-says-manchester-united-are-ready-to-spend-big

Cantona's Collars

Koke now saying he doesn't want to leave in January according to reports in Spain.(This comes from The Mirror who say he's a Spanish international full back,so take it with a pinch of salt)

Thepoet85

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I am really looking forward to Stoke on Wednesday. A break away from the league is welcome.

Who deserves a start.

Chico and Kagawa should start?

Would love to see Zaha get a start.

J. Marston

Play Fabio!

MagicIRL

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I am really looking forward to Stoke on Wednesday. A break away from the league is welcome.

Who deserves a start.

Chico and Kagawa should start?

I would really like to see something like

De Gea
Rafael Jones/Smalling/Evans Fabio
Fletcher Cleverly
Nani Kagawa Zaha
Rooney

I don't think we should be changing too much, this United team needs confidence in itself and building a solid core unit around them.

RasTa

MagicIRL wrote: »

I would really like to see something like

De Gea
Rafael Jones/Smalling/Evans Fabio
Fletcher Cleverly
Nani Kagawa Zaha
Rooney

I don't think we should be changing too much, this United team needs confidence in itself and building a solid core unit around them.

Rooney can have a rest, Stick Hernandez or Keane upfront. Give Rafael the night off

magnumbud

RasTa wrote: »

Rooney can have a rest, Stick Hernandez or Keane upfront. Give Rafael the night off

hernandez is possibly injured and keane is gone to wigan on loan

RasTa

Everybody's on loan.

Might see Giggs, Fellani, Anderson, Young, Zaha and someone up front.

Andres in goals, Butter and Fabio no idea for CB

homerjay2005

RasTa wrote: »

Everybody's on loan.

Might see Giggs, Fellani, Anderson, Young, Zaha and someone up front.

Andres in goals, Butter and Fabio no idea for CB

we have at least 7 injuries, so it limits alot of what you and others have outlined.

Giggs wont play anyway and id expect 2 from Rio, Jones and Evans at CB.

MagicMarker

Watched the Class of '92 this morning, t'was brilliant. I was in stitches at the tea pot story.

Irishcrx

Would like to see Zaha get a start but he needs to calm down a bit , I know he's very eager to impress to everytime I have seen him (Not much) he has given the ball away by trying to do too much too soon. Ease it back a bit and take it slow because all Moyes is seeing is him loosing possession.

MagicMarker

Anyone think we might bring Powell back in January?

tallaghtmick

MagicMarker wrote: »

Anyone think we might bring Powell back in January?

He's better off getting game time at Wigan.

homerjay2005

MagicMarker wrote: »

Anyone think we might bring Powell back in January?

the talk is that we are bringing him back, to loan him to a pl team. Moyes wants him to make the step up quickly based on his performances so far for them.

With Spurs having sacked AVB, perhaps we could be looking to tempt one of their midfielders here in January?

Agueroooo

Sacramento wrote: »

With Spurs having sacked AVB, perhaps we could be looking to tempt one of their midfielders here in January?

If rumours are to believed then Sig and even Lamela are rumoured to be OK on moving.

homerjay2005

Sacramento wrote: »

With Spurs having sacked AVB, perhaps we could be looking to tempt one of their midfielders here in January?

if they are not good enough for Spurs, they are not good enough for United.

keane2097

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if they are not good enough for Spurs, they are not good enough for United.

They're not good enough for Spurs in the same way Mascherano and Tevez weren't good enough for West Ham.

homerjay2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if they are not good enough for Spurs, they are not good enough for United.

Bit of a simplistic view no? With the lack of strong MF players available in January surely one of them could improve our first eleven?? You were the one saying specifically that when they signed Eriksen that they had a "serious squad". A 21 year old creative midfielder no less..

homerjay2005

keane2097 wrote: »

They're not good enough for Spurs in the same way Mascherano and Tevez weren't good enough for West Ham.

theres nobody in that Spurs midfield that is a world class creative player and we certainly wil not be getting in players who in the majority have only signed in the past 12-16 months for them.

Sacramento wrote: »

? You were the one saying specifically that when they signed Eriksen that they had a "serious squad". A 21 year old creative midfielder no less..

im pretty sure i said many times during the summer that Eriksen was a player who i didnt mind us not signing as he isnt good enough to solve the problems we have. just because they are good players for other clubs who are near the top of the table, doesnt mean they are United class.

Eriksen is one of them. Spurs have a serious squad, however theres nobody in their squad id want at United based on how the summer and season have panned out so far.

Vic Vinegar

Fletcher giving Young short shrift

homerjay2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

im pretty sure i said many times during the summer that Eriksen was a player who i didnt mind us not signing as he isnt good enough to solve the problems we have. just because they are good players for other clubs who are near the top of the table, doesnt mean they are United class.

Eriksen is one of them. Spurs have a serious squad, however theres nobody in their squad id want at United based on how the summer and season have panned out so far.

Fair enough if you don't rate them now, but you did make comment specifically on the back of that Eriksen signing. Anyway..

Your comment of "if they're not good enough for Spurs" makes no sense. Was Bale not good enough for Spurs? Was Carrick? Berbatov? I don't understand why you said it tbh.

homerjay2005

Sacramento wrote: »

Your comment of "if they're not good enough for Spurs" makes no sense. Was Bale not good enough for Spurs? Was Carrick? Berbatov? I don't understand why you said it tbh.

i hate to tell you, but Bale, Carrick and Berbatov no longer play for Spurs nor have anything to do with this conversation. i am pretty sure many people will understand (and agree with) my point.

homerjay2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i hate to tell you, but Bale, Carrick and Berbatov no longer play for Spurs nor have anything to do with this conversation. i am pretty sure many people will understand (and agree with) my point.

OK, condescension again, yay. You haven't understood what I'm asking. I'll leave it there with you.

keane2097

homerjay2005 wrote: »

theres nobody in that Spurs midfield that is a world class creative player and we certainly wil not be getting in players who in the majority have only signed in the past 12-16 months for them.

I don't remember responding to a post that said anything of the sort.

Your line was that if they aren't good enough for Spurs they aren't good enough for United, the fact is Sandro, Dembele, Paulinho, Lamela, Holtby, Erikson etc would all stroll into the United team.

In fact besides Carrick I think pretty much every midfielder in the Spurs first team roster is superior to anything at United besides Fellaini when he's playing well.

Sandro in particular is a superb player.

Edit to say obviously Kagawa as a #10 is as good as any of them.

J. Marston

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Fletcher giving Young short shrift

Poor Ashley. Even his teammates can't stand him.

Maximus Alexander

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i hate to tell you, but Bale, Carrick and Berbatov no longer play for Spurs nor have anything to do with this conversation. i am pretty sure many people will understand (and agree with) my point.

I don't really understand your point. Are you saying clubs that are performing poorly can't have any good players in their squad? Spurs weren't exactly setting the world on fire with any of the above players either, yet bigger clubs bought them. So on the surface, your point doesn't seem to make sense. It would be great if you could clarify.

dahat

Manchester United u21 midfielder Charni Ekangamene has been handed a first team squad number (43).

Picked this up on Twitter, don't know much about him or how likely he is to get any serious gametime.

kryogen

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if they are not good enough for Spurs, they are not good enough for United.

Lamela is good enough, could do with being given time to settle to a new country like!

Plenty of the Spurs midfield would be welcome actually

kryogen

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I don't really understand your point. Are you saying clubs that are performing poorly can't have any good players in their squad? Spurs weren't exactly setting the world on fire with any of the above players either, yet bigger clubs bought them. So on the surface, your point doesn't seem to make sense. It would be great if you could clarify.

His point doesn't make sense but the man on the moon knows he wont climb down off it and admit he had a bit of verbal diarrhoea so Id advise just letting it go, nobody wants pages of back and forth about it

Donnielighto

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i hate to tell you, but Bale, Carrick and Berbatov no longer play for Spurs nor have anything to do with this conversation. i am pretty sure many people will understand (and agree with) my point.

If you can see why they are exceptionally relevant to the point there's no hope for you...

DM_7

Charni was turned into a defensive midfielder when he got to united, played at the back. Effective rather than spectacular like Januzaj (or Will Keane and Tom Lawrence).

Mitch, lordgoat or one of the other posters that watch the under 21s could probably provide more info.

Might see him on bench v Stoke.

Backstreet Moyes

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if they are not good enough for Spurs, they are not good enough for United.

Vertonghen, Lamela, Townsend, Dembele, Sadro, Paulinho, Eriksenn and Lennon would all be welcome in my eyes.

Smegball

Nuts102 wrote: »

Vertonghen, Lamela, Townsend, Dembele, Sadro, Paulinho, Eriksenn and Lennon would all be welcome in my eyes.

Lennon and Townsend lol. Would take any of the others.

Kerrydude1981

MagicMarker wrote: »

Watched the Class of '92 this morning, t'was brilliant. I was in stitches at the tea pot story.

Just watched there,great film,ya that tea pot story was priceless.

For all their greatness they somehow managed to stay grounded and all come across as sound fellas.

MagicIRL

Our midfield is so poor Id literally take anyone from Spurs'.

homerjay2005

MagicIRL wrote: »

Our midfield is so poor Id literally take anyone from Spurs'.

the first 5 words of your post are the key here. most players would "improve" our midfield, but thats not saying alot or is it a point puts any weight to the argument.

we need world class players, not lads who cant get in the spurs team.

Lord TSC

So homer, you keep going on and on about how we need World Class players.

Out of interest, have you any examples of realistic targets we could aim for that you'd consider "World Class"?

Owen_S

Nuts102 wrote: »

Vertonghen, Lamela, Townsend, Dembele, Sadro, Paulinho, Eriksenn and Lennon would all be welcome in my eyes.

He is the one player from Spurs that I would love to see in a Utd shirt. One of the best central defenders around, annoying to see him played at left back so often.

IvySlayer

Sandro and Dembele are class

titan18

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

So homer, you keep going on and on about how we need World Class players.

Out of interest, have you any examples of realistic targets we could aim for that you'd consider "World Class"?

Aye, likes criticizing everyone's else choices so much, be interesting to see

lordgoat

DM-ICE wrote: »

Charni was turned into a defensive midfielder when he got to united, played at the back. Effective rather than spectacular like Januzaj (or Will Keane and Tom Lawrence).

Mitch, lordgoat or one of the other posters that watch the under 21s could probably provide more info.

Might see him on bench v Stoke.

Charni's a good player, nothing exceptional but at times he really surprised me. Hes tough and there's a lot to like about him. Be very interesting to see him get some game time against Stoke.

bucketybuck

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we need world class players, not lads who cant get in the spurs team.

Yeah, we already have loads of lads who wouldn't get into the Spurs team!

Liam O

IvySlayer wrote: »

Sandro and Dembele are class

Sandro yes, not convinced by Dembele. Bit of a headless chicken at times. Covers ground but his positioning is quite erratic.

kryogen

Januzaj wasn't spectacular for the under 21's, he was a solid player, always looked good but not spectacular. His development the last year or 18 months has been phenomenal really though I still think he is being hyped a little too much out of our desperation to find a shining light