Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

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Good to have Mikey back

ericzeking

Nuts102 wrote: »

Have you not been around the last few years. We have been riddled with injuries long before Moyes came. I think the backroom staff should be looked at really.

I was talking about a specific type of injury in relation to a specific grievence which has been aired in recent times.

You are speaking in general terms.

I would be very surprised if our injury record as a club as a whole is any worse than any other top club. Maybe you could pull out a few facts that say otherwise?

In terms of players being unavailable due to injury/illness, there are a couple of persistant ones alright but I'm not sure the staff can be blamed, Rio and Vidic are suffering from a combination of old age, their build style of play and miles on the clock, Anderson has a bad knee and Fletcher has a chronic illness, maybe these are clouding your opinion but I wouldn't say these in particular are reason to criticize the staff.

Edit:The fact 2 pf these players consistantly unavailable are in our weakest area of the pitch is bound to cloud judgement.

paulbok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Have you not been around the last few years. We have been riddled with injuries long before Moyes came. I think the backroom staff should be looked at really.

Giggs will have to start giving yoga lessons.

Crimson King

MD1990 wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.ie/player/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Off_The_Ball_Highlights/41352/0/raymond_verheijen_interview

interesting interview showing Moyes fitness training to be terrible tbh

Been done to death really, this link is from July

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/25/david-moyes-to-blame-for-robin-van-persie-injury-blasts-fitness-coach-raymond-verheijen-3898099/

RobertKK

Man Utd shares fell a bit in the past week, from near $17 to currently $15.26, I decided to buy a few shares since the fall, I know I have no rights given the Glazers own most of the club, but I feel I can now truly say 'my club', I feel confident about the club so decided why not...waits for shares to tank...

tallaghtmick

RobertKK wrote: »

Man Utd shares fell a bit in the past week, from near $17 to currently $15.26, I decided to buy a few shares since the fall, I know I have no rights given the Glazers own most of the club, but I feel I can now truly say 'my club', I feel confident about the club so decided why not...waits for shares to tank...

Are you a billionaire? Ill take Messi and Ronaldo please :P

MagicIRL

Is anyone keeping track of a "United transfer rumour" list? We had one floating around during the summer.

kryogen

MD1990 wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.ie/player/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Off_The_Ball_Highlights/41352/0/raymond_verheijen_interview

interesting interview showing Moyes fitness training to be terrible tbh

Smell of failure off this attempt

RobertKK

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Are you a billionaire? Ill take Messi and Ronaldo please :P

Working hard on it, will have to wait both, will ask for these transfers at AGM if anyone is willing to sponsor my attendance....not quite the billionaire yet :P

tallaghtmick

RobertKK wrote: »

Working hard on it, will have to wait both, will ask for these transfers at AGM if anyone is willing to sponsor my attendance....not quite the billionaire yet :P

Not good enough RobertKK out, Board out, Glazers out, everyone out!!!!

wadacrack

Raymond Verheijen is very knowledgeable tho. Bellamy did hire him as a personal trainer during the time he had a great spell at city without injuries. He is very patronizing tbf which puts alot of people of. His knowledge of fitness for football is very good. If you read Bellamys book he trusts his knowledge and it worked

The_Kew_Tour

Go to his twitter page.

He writes like a 10yo spolit kid who hates certain clubs and people

kryogen

wadacrack wrote: »

Raymond Verheijen is very knowledgeable tho. Bellamy did hire him as a personal trainer during the time he had a great spell at city without injuries. He is very patronizing tbf which puts alot of people of. His knowledge of fitness for football is very good. If you read Bellamys book he trusts his knowledge and it worked

Your love of Ray is well documented at this stage (though I don't think you ever answered the question as to how you became so infatuated with him in the first place)

He is not the only fitness coach in football, he is not the only one with theories and ideas. He is hardly a prophet who is always correct and must be followed. All players are slightly different, in terms of optimum performance they should all have specific features of their fitness regime.

Bellamy uses him? Great! How come Giggs doesn't though? Does Giggs not using his methods mean that his methods don't work? No, does Bellamy using them mean that he is always right? No. Should every player in the sport use whatever fitness specialist Giggs uses? No.

There are plenty of fitness coaches in the sport, United have had injury problems for a long time now, recurring ones, every season with strains and muscle injuries. It is hardly possible to blame Moyes for the defensive injury crisis that was a common occurrence every year is it?

Players like RVP who have long histories of injury problems would already have personal fitness guys who have tailored their programme to suit them.

The fact that the guy comes across so badly doesn't help his cause either. That you do acknowledge at least

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The Prophet Verheijen who was visited by the fitness angel
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
found the stones and golden plates theory of fitness
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

fish fingers

Headshot wrote: »

The Prophet Verheijen who was visited by the fitness angel
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
found the stones and golden plates theory of fitness
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Headshot smart smart smart.

RobertKK

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Not good enough RobertKK out, Board out, Glazers out, everyone out!!!!

Wait, I am applying for a bank loan to buy the club, damn Anglo had to go broke... :P

homerjay2005

RobertKK wrote: »

Wait, I am applying for a bank loan to buy the club, damn Anglo had to go broke... :P

speaking of buying clubs....

a couple of years back, i set the wheels in motion to look into the possibility of running a non league club in england, with the backing of a few lads on here and other places financially.

the club was recommended to me by two business men in the locality and when it came to actually talking about money, the club didnt want to know. sadly, they went bust a few weeks later and i gave up on the idea.

would be something interesting to do, perhaps in ireland though.

Your Airbag

Welbeck questioning Moyes calls for extra training. Interesting

Danny Welbeck has denied David Moyes's claims that he needs to do extra training sessions at Manchester United.

Moyes saying he spoke to Welbeck around a month ago, informing him he should follow the example of Wayne Rooney, who stays on for extra finishing practice at United's Carrington training base.

But Welbeck said: "I have been doing that ever since I have been at United. Obviously I have been injured this season so maybe the manager has not seen me on the training pitch as much. Maybe, I haven't seen what he has said. Obviously, at Manchester United, I want to be working hard and I have been doing that ever since I was a young kid. I just want to keep on getting better and improving. Those extra hours on the training pitch, whether it be with the boys or individually, I am just looking to improve.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/20/manchester-united-danny-welbeck-extra-training

Edit: On re-reading the article I realise its an over dramatic title

The_Kew_Tour

Ebbsfleet United remember them?

Your Airbag

homerjay2005 wrote: »

speaking of buying clubs....

a couple of years back, i set the wheels in motion to look into the possibility of running a non league club in england, with the backing of a few lads on here and other places financially.

the club was recommended to me by two business men in the locality and when it came to actually talking about money, the club didnt want to know. sadly, they went bust a few weeks later and i gave up on the idea.

would be something interesting to do, perhaps in ireland though.

If you ever need a chief exec to jet around the world and look after the transfer dealings I'm your man.

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ebbsfleet United remember them?

once you let a bunch of people on the internet have control of the team, you are on a hiding to nothing. them lads made a great concept, absolutely awful.

they are still around though and not doing too bad and Liam Daish is their manager still id say.

The_Kew_Tour

Singing section 2nd trial gets go ahead for Fulham game.

http://stretfordendflags.com/index.php/96-singing-section-2nd-trial-gets-league-game-go-ahead

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Singing section 2nd trial gets go ahead for Fulham game.

http://stretfordendflags.com/index.php/96-singing-section-2nd-trial-gets-league-game-go-ahead

ah feck it anyway, im not going to that one...sold my tickets for it

ericzeking

homerjay2005 wrote: »

speaking of buying clubs....

a couple of years back, i set the wheels in motion to look into the possibility of running a non league club in england, with the backing of a few lads on here and other places financially.

the club was recommended to me by two business men in the locality and when it came to actually talking about money, the club didnt want to know. sadly, they went bust a few weeks later and i gave up on the idea.

would be something interesting to do, perhaps in ireland though.

I always thought that if I won the Euromillions or something I'd invest in the local soccer club and see how far we could go.

The_Kew_Tour

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ah feck it anyway, im not going to that one...sold my tickets for it

Would you have been in singing section?

Always liked the idea. When Ireland started doing it in Croker it made atmosphere much better even for couple of the ordinary games.

The_Kew_Tour

ericzeking wrote: »

I always thought that if I won the Euromillions or something I'd invest in the local soccer club and see how far we could go.

I would buy Cork City and invest in United and Hibs.

It would be 1 of my dreams.

Its on tonight ya never know:P

IamtheWalrus

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ah feck it anyway, im not going to that one...sold my tickets for it

Plastic?

ericzeking

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I would buy Cork City and invest in United and Hibs.

It would be 1 of my dreams.

Its on tonight ya never know:P

I was thinking more the local district league junior team, bringing them up to LoI and on to Europe would be a right bit of craic!!

That now and a few racehorses...people say you'd have to work to pass the time even if you won big money, you would in your eye!!

The Dream, ha!

The_Kew_Tour

ericzeking wrote: »

I was thinking more the local district league junior team, bringing them up to LoI and on to Europe would be a right bit of craic!!

That now and a few racehorses...people say you'd have to work to pass the time even if you won big money, you would in your eye!!

The Dream, ha!

Ya thats another. Love to have a few horse win at Cheltenham.

Maybe even buy a Golf course.

We can dream:)

ericzeking

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ah feck it anyway, im not going to that one...sold my tickets for it

Sold em to a non-singing, day tripping, tourist with a big bag of merchandise at the game no doubt!!! :cool:

Maximus Alexander

ericzeking wrote: »

I was thinking more the local district league junior team, bringing them up to LoI and on to Europe would be a right bit of craic!!

That now and a few racehorses...people say you'd have to work to pass the time even if you won big money, you would in your eye!!

The Dream, ha!

That's the thing, you'd have to 'work', only it's not work if you enjoy it. Working on your football club that you bought for shits and giggles is a long, long way from sitting in an office bored to tears every day.

Agueroooo

ericzeking wrote: »

Sold em to a non-singing, day tripping, tourist with a big bag of merchandise at the game no doubt!!! :cool:

this sort of stuff annoys me :mad:

everyone starts somewhere when they support a team.

magnumbud

Agueroooo wrote: »

this sort of stuff annoys me :mad:

everyone starts somewhere when they support a team.

with a name like that i think your in the wrong thread :P

Mars Bar

magnumbud wrote: »

with a name like that i think your in the wrong thread :P

Wait until you figure out who he actually supports! It's a mind mess, I tell ya.

ericzeking

Agueroooo wrote: »

this sort of stuff annoys me :mad:

everyone starts somewhere when they support a team.

Flew straight over your head buddy...........:D

RasTa

magnumbud wrote: »

with a name like that i think your in the wrong thread :P

You would be even more surprised.

Agueroooo

Mars Bar wrote: »

Wait until you figure out who he actually supports! It's a mind mess, I tell ya.

RasTa wrote: »

You would be even more surprised.

Its not really that bizarre and I have explained it already

My sarcasm detector seems to be faulty and I seemed to have taken up the post wrong, so I am guessing the OP feels the same as myself when it comes to other fans slagging off so called 'day trippers' etc

Cantona's Collars

Nani out for a few weeks as his hamstring injury is worse than feared.

Some good news is that Inter have said that they could be willing to sell us Mateo Kovacic.

Vic Vinegar

zerks wrote: »

Nani out for a few weeks as his hamstring injury is worse than feared.

Some good news is that Inter have said that they could be willing to sell us Mateo Kovacic.

Italian manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, described him as "a mixture of Kaká and Clarence Seedorf", because of his style of play and technical characteristics

His compatriot, Zvonimir Boban, who played for Milan for over a decade, in an interview with Sky Italia said, "He has talents that could make him even better than me, he is an incredibly serious professional for someone his age. Kovačić is a complete player. He is not a born regista but he is playing there now. He is a complete talent that can still grow — he has incredible potential."

Nice!

RasTa

Agueroooo wrote: »

Its not really that bizarre and I have explained it already

My sarcasm detector seems to be faulty and I seemed to have taken up the post wrong, so I am guessing the OP feels the same as myself when it comes to other fans slagging off so called 'day trippers' etc

What's the reasoning then?

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RasTa wrote: »

What's the reasoning then?

His real name?

bullvine

Agueroooo wrote: »

Its not really that bizarre and I have explained it already

My sarcasm detector seems to be faulty and I seemed to have taken up the post wrong, so I am guessing the OP feels the same as myself when it comes to other fans slagging off so called 'day trippers' etc

Yeah, I'm gonna change my User Name to MThomas89 some day.

Agueroooo

RasTa wrote: »

What's the reasoning then?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86161140&postcount=4624

Cantona's Collars

Just what we need,a midfielder who can actually carry the ball instead of standing still waiting for it & then offloading it as if the thing was on fire.

Cantona's Collars

Agueroooo wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86161140&postcount=4624

I remember telling my Liverpool supporting mates about him when he was still playing in Spain before he was even linked with an EPL club.......the answer I got was,"never heard of him".

The_Kew_Tour

Has he been linked with us?

Cantona's Collars

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Has he been linked with us?

Yep,I'll try to find the link. (if my keyboard doesn't fall to bits,the little one tried to redesign it for me )

Cantona's Collars

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2013/12/20/report-inter-wont-stop-kovacic-joining-man-united/

Maximus Alexander

Inter... This better not be the new Sneijder.

TheTownie

zerks wrote: »

Just what we need,a midfielder who can actually carry the ball instead of standing still waiting for it & then offloading it as if the thing was on fire.

Reminds me of a young Anderson. What a waste of immense talent.