Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

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kryogen wrote: »

Of course, we have been through too much to let it all slip away

You still upset about Welbeck starting or have you mellowed a bit now he scored (and we are playing well offensively)

why do you think I betted on him :P

reverse psychology my friend, reverse psychology.

Blatter

kryogen wrote: »

Not bad, best price I can get elsewhere is 11/10

How much will you allow?

100 max.

nostrils

United defence looking more solid with Ferdinand and Vidic not in it.

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

why do you think I betted on him :P

reverse psychology my friend, reverse psychology.

Nice one

tallaghtmick

Looking good today

beno619

Headshot wrote: »

Since Chico has come to the club he has shown why he is the better player, welbeck so far is the definition of one swallow never makes a summer. If he keeps scoring of course ill change my mind but right now I rather seeing a proven goal scorer like Chico starting.

I feel sorry for Chico since the fans seen to forget what he has done for the club so far and they rather have a player who come on has scored **** all in his utd career. Welbeck has never even got into double figures

Don't think any fans have forgot about him and most people would agree he needs to play more.

Chica has been effected by are awful midfield ,when he's played this year hes had very poor service for a goalscorer.

He's probably the best poacher in the league but Welbz overall game is a bit better.

ElChe32

What a difference the return of Rafa has made. Tony always has him on his shoulder for an out ball.

Vic Vinegar

Smalling needs to be first choice now imo. The guy is a beast, very good at passing for a CB too.

Mars Bar

I'd love to see Smalling's stats in aerial duels

beno619

Has a chance of dislodging Jagielka / Cahill for the world cup on this form.

The_Kew_Tour

Smalling been best prospect at this club for 3 seasons now. Great bit of stuff

kryogen

Mars Bar wrote: »

I'd love to see Smalling's stats in aerial duels

Just found them

Headers:

Smalling - win
Opponents - lose

Rayne Wooney

*** 49% in premier league* so *not *entirely *accurate***

MagicIRL

Welbeck limps off and Hernandez comes on.

Rayne Wooney

Moyes curse takes another victim

kryogen

MagicIRL wrote: »

Welbeck limps off and Hernandez comes on.

Perfect game for Chicha to find a bit of form

MagicIRL

Januzaj makes way for Young.

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Great finish

Would love Chico too get 1

ElChe32

I'm sorry but who's the imposter playing in 18 for United? Surely it's not Young.

J. Marston

Buttner on the pitch for seconds and costs us a goal.

Moyes is an idiot for not using Fabio.

Danger781

J. Marston wrote: »

Buttner on the pitch for seconds and costs us a goal.

Moyes is an idiot for not using Fabio.

Perhaps this will open his eyes.

Lord TSC

Nice to get another win on the board, and nice that this "Easy" run of games is actually turning out to be pretty "easy". I do worry a bigger team will cause us problems, but these games build confidence and momentum, and seeing Welbeck and Young scoring again is great.

kryogen

All the extra training is paying off eh

MagicIRL

Buttner is now on the list "January Sales" instead of Young. For now.

Nalz

MagicIRL wrote: »

Buttner is now on the list "January Sales" instead of Young. For now.

absolute clueless clown for the goal

tallaghtmick

MagicIRL wrote: »

Buttner is now on the list "January Sales" instead of Young. For now.

Linked with 2 Italian teams today pretty certain to leave https://twitter.com/jouracule/status/414363860699975680

Delighted with today missed 20 mins of the start of the 2nd half but from what ive seen it was good, hopefully Moyes late bloomers kick on from here.

Jones again was unreal:D

Kerrydude1981

Is Fabio injured or what?

Zico

Playing Rooney in midfield is like loaning a player from a bigger club, he may do great a job but you need to find a permanent solution fast because you won't have him there for long.

Cantona's Collars

For those of you who doubted me for starting the match thread,

n32

Good positive performance today and for a change it wasnt a chore to watch. Its been a very good 10 days with 4 wins on the trot. Jones and Rooney were outstanding today. Jones has come on no end as a midfielder. He has the defensive instinct to smell trouble and drop back to lend a hand to the CBs. Evans and Smalling are looking like a very accomplished partnership. We should go all out for Luke Shaw and we would have an exciting, young back 4 of Rafael - Evans - Smalling - Shaw. We would be well set with them and DDG behind them.
Cleverley, Young and Welbeck have shown enough in the last few games to buy them a bit more time. Welbeck especially has to persevered with because if he sorts out his shooting he could be a fine player.
2 more wins before the New Year and we ll be nicely placed. For all the talk of Liverpool and Arsenal having made great starts, we ve been absolutely melojin so far and we re only 8 points off them. We aint gone yet!

ericzeking

Zico wrote: »

Playing Rooney in midfield is like loaning a player from a bigger club, he may do great a job but you need to find a permanent solution fast because you won't have him there for long.

He's playing the number 10 position as an attacking midfield number 10 instead of as the withdrawn striker role he was playing earlier in the season, it has made a massive difference to the teams performance in recent games he is absolutely lording it in this role and is bringing the best out of the players around him. He gives Clev and Jones an option they haven't had.

This is directly related to why people wanted Kagawa playing at 10...but with Rooney playing like this Kags won't get a look in.

Thought we were really good today, enjoyed it immensely.

MagicIRL

Didn't Fergie try this business of having Rooney in midfield and it kicked off the whole transfer saga?

n32

ericzeking wrote: »

This is directly related to why people wanted Kagawa playing at 10...but with Rooney playing like this Kags won't get a look in.

If thats the case should we be offering Kagawa to Dortmund to lure Gundogan or Bender?

MANUTD99

ericzeking wrote: »

He's playing the number 10 position as an attacking midfield number 10 instead of as the withdrawn striker role he was playing earlier in the season, it has made a massive difference to the teams performance in recent games he is absolutely lording it in this role and is bringing the best out of the players around him. He gives Clev and Jones an option they haven't had.

This is directly related to why people wanted Kagawa playing at 10...but with Rooney playing like this Kags won't get a look in.

Thought we were really good today, enjoyed it immensely.

Have to agree. He is getting so much of the ball and dictating the game in the role he is playing at the minute. Would be surprised if he is not happy in current role. Has so much influence on the game. Thought he was a bit sloppy with his passing today though.

In Rafa Benitez stlye

Jones was immense today FACT Rafael was great going forward FACT De Gea is not afraid anymore with high balls and even injures his own players FACT Smalling is the new Scholes FACT

Harvey Low Fat Milk

The team is looking a lot more settled lately and I think Moyes is too as a result. He seems to be getting to know the team more game by game. There are still problems obviously and as good as he was today, Jones is a centre half and a potentially excellent one as well and Rooney dropping back is great but to finally see someone come in there and alleviate the pressure from Rooney, Carrick to create so much and give Jones a more fixed role in the team can't be underestimated.

I know the hype and pressure around someone like Kovacic, Rakitic, Herrera etc coming in would be big but patience is something I like to think United fans have shown in the past and have shown it this season. The team and club has plenty there for Moyes and the players he chooses to bring in to succeed. Goals are being spread around the team, conceding less and there's a more consistent and coherent style coming in over the last few weeks. I like to be positive about United at most times but this is the most positive I've been all season, long may it continue!

paulbok

Just seen Powells goal for Wigan on SSN, very Scholes-esque.

Harvey Low Fat Milk

paulbok wrote: »

Just seen Powells goal for Wigan on SSN, very Scholes-esque.

That loan move has been great for him, hopefully he'll get a similar loan move next season but to a premier league team.

Liam O

I still think that Cleverley is being hung out to dry a bit. He was up against 3 players for a long time today and until Januzaj started cutting inside and Rooney dropped back the team seemed to be in a 3-2(wing backs)-1(Clev)-2(wingers) -1-1 formation. When Rooney dropped back to become involved and Adnan moved inside it made all the difference as there was a lot more help and the team reaped the benefits. Great to see a bit more fluidity and I feel the team has been far too rigid recently and the improvement as the game went on was very encouraging.

SherlockWatson

Harvey Low Fat Milk wrote: »

That loan move has been great for him, hopefully he'll get a similar loan move next season but to a premier league team.

I want him at United next year personally, I think but for injuries last year he'd be in and around the squad this year like Jan is.

Harvey Low Fat Milk

SherlockWatson wrote: »

I want him at United next year personally, I think but for injuries last year he'd be in and around the squad this year like Jan is.

He's talented and I wouldn't be against it but I think if the option to have him playing regularly at premier league team comes up then United should take it.

The_Kew_Tour

6 points by this time next week and things will look much better.

SherlockWatson

Harvey Low Fat Milk wrote: »

He's talented and I wouldn't be against it but I think if the option to have him playing regularly at premier league team comes up then United should take it.

Depends on the summer business aswell, if we bulk up the midfield then I wouldn't be against him going on loan to a PL club .

kryogen

Harvey Low Fat Milk wrote: »

That loan move has been great for him, hopefully he'll get a similar loan move next season but to a premier league team.

I would bet he will go to a Premier League team in January if possible, then see what happens

n32

kryogen wrote: »

I would bet he will go to a Premier League team in January if possible, then see what happens

somewhere like sunderland, villa or west brom in january would be a big benefit to him.

kryogen

n32 wrote: »

somewhere like sunderland, villa or west brom in january would be a big benefit to him.

Somewhere he would play regularly and preferably not a team in a real relegation dogfight, Bruce might be interested?

The main thing is playing every week, a side that tries to play good football second and if they could be not involved in a relegation battle that would be perfect

Ill take one out of three though as long as its the first one

n32

kryogen wrote: »

Somewhere he would play regularly and preferably not a team in a real relegation dogfight, Bruce might be interested?

The main thing is playing every week, a side that tries to play good football second and if they could be not involved in a relegation battle that would be perfect

Ill take one out of three though as long as its the first one

Hull could be a good bet aswell. Bruce has them playing well

Harvey Low Fat Milk

kryogen wrote: »

I would bet he will go to a Premier League team in January if possible, then see what happens

If there's interest then take it. I imagine Wigan will extend otherwise. It's just good to see, down the years I've been frustrated by the likes of Rossi on loan and Fabio last year. Although it always depends on the situation of the club they're being sent to I suppose. Welbeck and Cleverley being examples of what a good loan move can do for a player.

Your Airbag

@AndyMitten Moyes: "We’ll look, but I’m not massively sure we’ll bring someone in. A lot of the players we’re looking at won’t be available in Jan."

https://twitter.com/AndyMitten/status/414447746498584577

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Your Airbag wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyMitten/status/414447746498584577

Its a creative version of no value in the market window :pac:

magnumbud

kryogen wrote: »

Somewhere he would play regularly and preferably not a team in a real relegation dogfight, Bruce might be interested?

The main thing is playing every week, a side that tries to play good football second and if they could be not involved in a relegation battle that would be perfect

Ill take one out of three though as long as its the first one

as long as he is playing every week a relegation battle wouldnt do him any harm. at least would be playing games that mean something and not just mid table bordom