Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

Hococop

MagicIRL wrote: »

Is the game on TV tomorrow?

its a 3 o clock game so id say bt or setanta have it

The_Kew_Tour

collie0708 wrote: »

Hi all does anyone know when the exact dates and times will be confirmed for our games in March??

The problem is its time of year for CL knockout plus replay of FA Cup games which can make changes.

I say February might be earliest for the time we really know exactly when certain games will be played etc.

collie0708

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The problem is its time of year for CL knockout plus replay of FA Cup games which can make changes.

I say February might be earliest for the time we really know exactly when certain games will be played etc.

Thanks the price of flights around the Liverpool and City games are already shooting up..... Hopefully I get lucky when dates are confirmed

MagicMarker

We're playing tomorrow as well?

Sweet.

The_Kew_Tour

collie0708 wrote: »

Thanks the price of flights around the Liverpool and City games are already shooting up..... Hopefully I get lucky when dates are confirmed

Both are meant to be on a Saturday. Most likely 12.45 kick off I say. They might, just might change to Sunday, but I be confident they be played on Saturday and be surprised if it was anything other then 12.45 KO.

djemba djemba

collie0708 wrote: »

Thanks the price of flights around the Liverpool and City games are already shooting up..... Hopefully I get lucky when dates are confirmed

The city game is fixed for the same weekend as the league cup final. So on the slim chance neither United or City make the final that game wont be on that Weekend

The_Kew_Tour

djemba djemba wrote: »

The city game is fixed for the same weekend as the league cup final. So on the slim chance neither United or City make the final that game wont be on that Weekend

Good spot forgot totally about that.

collie0708

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Both are meant to be on a Saturday. Most likely 12.45 kick off I say. They might, just might change to Sunday, but I be confident they be played on Saturday and be surprised if it was anything other then 12.45 KO.

I would have thought more likely to be super Sunday early kick offs, why do you think Saturday is more likely?

collie0708

djemba djemba wrote: »

The city game is fixed for the same weekend as the league cup final. So on the slim chance neither United or City make the final that game wont be on that Weekend

Ah forgot that myself hopefully I will be looking for flights to London so

kryogen

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Rodriguez? As in Jay Rodriguez I would be very surprised if we did.

Jay Rodriguez? As in James Rodriguez ? Id be pretty sure we would be in for him if he is on the move

The_Kew_Tour

collie0708 wrote: »

I would have thought more likely to be super Sunday early kick offs, why do you think Saturday is more likely?

You could be right. Depends on how far teams get in Europe etc. Seems to be more Saturday KO from March but that does not mean Sunday is out of question.

markc91

kryogen wrote: »

Jay Rodriguez? As in James Rodriguez ? Id be pretty sure we would be in for him if he is on the move

nope id say jay rodriguez from southampton after scoring twice yesterday

Mitch Connor

beno619 wrote: »

Cant fault Rooneys application this year, by far best player and always tries to do the right things on and off the ball. The point some people are missing is that he should not have to sacrifice himself anymore and he does to make up for Cleverley. This is based on the last 3 or 4 games not just when we went down to 10 men yesterday.




Moyes doesn't rate him but Fergie did and played him when he was available. Il agree he struggled to last 90 minutes. But I always saw him as a hard worker on it.

Cleverley could be accused of similar looking back at some of the goals we have conceded this season.

Again he wanted to leave the club because he had to cover for players like Cleverley. Lets not pretend he hasn't upset us multiple times and his fitness has also been questionable. Il ignore the bit about fluent English.

Rooney is required to drop deep because otherwise we'd be playing two CMs vs three in virtually every game. When Rooney didn't drop deep earlier in the season our midfield was overrun. 442 doesn't work anymore, you need a third midfielder, Rooney is it for us-and I'm gland he is back to playing that role. It isn't cleverleys fault, he is required to do it no matter who we play centre. He only would be needed to do it if he was deployed as the lead forward with an amc (kagawa) behind him who will drop to collect the ball instead.

Cantona's Collars

Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri

Manchester United strengthening squad policy is not going only through the intense contacts for Koke.Something is happening also for defence

Manchester United made contacts to close in january a deal for Roma's defender Benatia,one of best of Serie A season.Hard one,25-30m€ needed

Ian Abrahams ✔ @BroadcastMoose

Hearing a transfer rumour linking Man Utd with a £20m+ move for ilkay Gundogan in the January Transfer Window

kryogen

markc91 wrote: »

nope id say jay rodriguez from southampton after scoring twice yesterday

Who said Rodriguez originally?

Bit of clarifying needed here!

beno619

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Rooney is required to drop deep because otherwise we'd be playing two CMs vs three in virtually every game. When Rooney didn't drop deep earlier in the season our midfield was overrun. 442 doesn't work anymore, you need a third midfielder, Rooney is it for us-and I'm gland he is back to playing that role. It isn't cleverleys fault, he is required to do it no matter who we play centre. He only would be needed to do it if he was deployed as the lead forward with an amc (kagawa) behind him who will drop to collect the ball instead.

442 does work with the right players, City are proof of that, we haven't have been able to pull it off though because of a lack of quality/performance in midfield.

I think we need to clear up what dropping deep means, along side or behind his central midfielders or between midfield and attack as the link man ?

Surely his starting position in a passage of play should be between midfield and attack and not along side the midfield starting attacks ?

The_Kew_Tour

zerks wrote: »

Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri


Ian Abrahams ✔ @BroadcastMoose

Am I being sucked in or are these guys reliable?

tallaghtmick

kryogen wrote: »

Jay Rodriguez? As in James Rodriguez ? Id be pretty sure we would be in for him if he is on the move

I was talking about the Southampton player, who does James play for?

Edit: ah the guy who went to Monaco, was thinking Porto alright I remember we where linked with him.

tvercetti

tallaghtmick wrote: »

I was talking about the Southampton player, who does James play for?

Signed for Monaco during the summer. Utd were heavily linked to him in his Porto days.

Blatter

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Am I being sucked in or are these guys reliable?

Both are full of shít IMO.

kryogen

tallaghtmick wrote: »

I was talking about the Southampton player, who does James play for?

You didn't mention Rodriguez first though, Trilla did

Cantona's Collars

Blatter wrote: »

Both are full of shít IMO.

Sure aren't they all on twitter:p

I want to see any transfer business wrapped up nice and early in January.

tvercetti

zerks wrote: »

Sure aren't they all on twitter:p

I want to see any transfer business wrapped up nice and early in January.

Rayne Wooney

zerks wrote: »

Sure aren't they all on twitter:p

I want to see any transfer business wrapped up nice and early in January.

Yeah, Gundogan, Benatia, Koke and Baines better be ready for the Swansea game.

J. Marston

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Am I being sucked in or are these guys reliable?

Palmeri talks nothing but shíte on Twitter. For instance, earlier today he advertised big Man United transfer news on his Twitter at 3pm and all he did was advertise his book, then threw a vague line about Benatia in.

Moose Abrahams reports on West Ham for Talksport (and is a bloody clown) so he knows nothing about Man United.

Fecking transfer window rolling around again. It brings nothing but false hope!

Cantona's Collars

Maybe we can pick up a bargain in Spain,didn't realise David Villa was out of contract so soon.

http://www.marca.com/2013/12/27/en/football/spanish_football/1388162197.html?a=09699ca9dd8ffcff0b2bb26efa461420&t=1388175838

F.J.

I would have Valencia ahead of Young in the queue to be shipped out at this point.Was happy to find out he was suspended for tomorrow after his first booking yesterday,which I think summed him up perfectly.

My heart sinks when he gets the ball on the counter.Buttner was poor for the West Ham goal last week but it started with Valencia giving it away after a break

tallaghtmick

kryogen wrote: »

You didn't mention Rodriguez first though, Trilla did

Yeh he just said the surname so I wanted to make sure it wasnt Jay, and as you can see I forgot about the Colombian lad.

beno619

zerks wrote: »

Maybe we can pick up a bargain in Spain,didn't realise David Villa was out of contract so soon.

http://www.marca.com/2013/12/27/en/football/spanish_football/1388162197.html?a=09699ca9dd8ffcff0b2bb26efa461420&t=1388175838

I would say Alonso but he's just a slight upgrade on Carrick.

Thatsfootball

I wonder if Fabio could get a start tomorrow. Utd play better with a proper right back, Rafael/Valencia (just cos Valencia provides alot more going forward from rb than Smalling).
It'd be good to see Smalling and Evans at cb again, unless Vidic is back and pushes Smalling to rb.
Still, it's a bit of a problem with all the injuries Rafael has had recently.

Hulk Hands

I'd imagine Phil Jones will start there. One of Smalling or Evans likely to be rested

newballsplease

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I'd imagine Phil Jones will start there. One of Smalling or Evans likely to be rested

Jones is injured.
It will be Smalling at RB and Vidic at center.

Vic Vinegar

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I'd imagine Phil Jones will start there. One of Smalling or Evans likely to be rested

Jones is injured and won't be playing.

Jimmy Iovine

collie0708 wrote: »

Thanks the price of flights around the Liverpool and City games are already shooting up..... Hopefully I get lucky when dates are confirmed

I love being able to drive to the matches.

I'm getting stung for my flight back over after Christmas though. Flying the day of the Swansea FA Cup game. Flight has more than Allie Teeny Trend and it is during the game, not even before.

Don't think that City game will go ahead on that day. What is the next available date at this stage? Probably a weekday?

Your Airbag

Moyes on January

Planning to make January signings?

‘I think we would like to do so. I would hate to get everyone’s expectations high thinking that we are going to be bringing in lots of players. The one thing I will say is that the club financially will support me in whatever we want to do or try to do. Getting the players in this window is the hardest part.



‘At a club like United, we want to sign the best, elite players. A lot of them might be at other clubs right now and might not be gettable. If we can, we will try and do something. That’s going to take some time. I can’t do that right away.



‘I think if I’d had done that straight away, folk will have said, ‘Why would you change round all the stuff Sir Alex Ferguson has done?’ It’s a gradual change. Obviously, players will come and go, that’s football.



‘That will take a little bit of time. I hope it doesn’t take much time. I think most people understand that it will take a little bit of time to settle in. You have a squad at Manchester United. I’m getting to know the players.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2530038/Moyes-United-reign-spend-January.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

F.J.

An article on Moyes and transfers to tie in with the above
http://es.pn/1ikMz8s

J. Marston

‘I think if I’d had done that straight away, folk will have said, ‘Why would you change round all the stuff Sir Alex Ferguson has done?’

We really wouldn't have.

Kylo Ren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrR5e9NtV68

Devil08

‘At a club like United, we want to sign the best, elite players. A lot of them might be at other clubs right now and might not be gettable.'

I bloody hope they are at other clubs. Moyes is horrible to listen to at times, even worse reading his quotes, seems like he just rambles on and spouts rubbish

KH25

We need to bid for Gundogan. He is exactly the type of player we need. If we were willing to throw 100m at Tottenham for Bale then we definitely have the money to buy him, even if its a bit too much. The club needs to start paying big money for big players again.

tallaghtmick

Today is like a April fools day in Spain, so please beware of links with us and Spanish based players :P

DM_7

J. Marston wrote: »

We really wouldn't have.

They did, coaching changes as an example

kryogen

DM-ICE wrote: »

They did, coaching changes as an example

Depends, if he made a few changes to the playing staff and we were top of the league, or in the top 2 and playing well, after getting rid of a bit of dead wood and bringing in some quality you would be a brave man to criticize that.

If however we were languishing in mid table after a few playing staff changes he would be up there to be shot at.

Human nature

MagicIRL

I wonder could.... Fabio or Buttner do a job at RB? Preferably Fabio since Buttner is beyond shít, but still.

The_Kew_Tour

KH25 wrote: »

We need to bid for Gundogan. He is exactly the type of player we need. If we were willing to throw 100m at Tottenham for Bale then we definitely have the money to buy him, even if its a bit too much. The club needs to start paying big money for big players again.

Be great buy, but I heard in last couple of months that Madrid or Barca are almost certain to get him in summer.

Now how true that is im not sure.

Will I Amnt

MagicIRL wrote: »

I wonder could.... Fabio or Buttner do a job at RB? Preferably Fabio since Buttner is beyond shít, but still.

Fabio can and has done a job at right back.

Nalz

Buttner is not bad on the ball, just rubbish positional sense and not the greatest at closing down.

I reckon Smalling will start and Vidic Evans will be the CBs

Devil08

Who gives a ****e about right back! It's not like Norwich have ronaldo on the left wing. Anyone we put there should be strong enough. Should be talking about our attacking options

beno619

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Be great buy, but I heard in last couple of months that Madrid or Barca are almost certain to get him in summer.

Now how true that is im not sure.

Doubt he will go to Barca or Cesc will really have to consider his future at the club, If he goes to madrid, then I would expect Modric would leave.

If we miss out on him we might still win.

The_Kew_Tour

beno619 wrote: »

Doubt he will go to Barca or Cesc will really have to consider his future at the club, If he goes to madrid, then I would expect Modric would leave.

If we miss out on him we might still win.

As I say the rumour might be just that, a rumour.

Be a super buy, but I wonder even if we were interested would he look at Kagawa for example and might that put him off coming here?