Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

brinty

deafroadrunner wrote: »

i know.....

No pleasing some people on here deafroadrunner...

Thought it was hilarious myself...

MagicMarker

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Fake account.

What gave it away?

Rayne Wooney

Paging Captain Obvious

Your Airbag

So Sneijder scores the winner against Juve to send them out of the UCL. Still mixing it up at the highest level.

Rayne Wooney

Sneijder seems to have a huge ego, and I don't think him and RVP get along

and doesn't he play in the Rooney role for Galatasaray?

Your Airbag

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Sneijder seems to have a huge ego, and I don't think him and RVP get along

and doesn't he play in the Rooney role for Galatasaray?

I'm sure he can play deeper.

He is cup tied and no spring chicken but if we get him for less than 10m its not bad for a short term option.

He said this (you never know) about the UTD links after the Juve match

Sneijder has long been linked with a move to Old Trafford, and United's midfield struggles this season have sparked fresh talk of the Dutchman joining the Premier League champions.

But speaking in the aftermath of Galatasaray's dramatic 1-0 win over Juventus that saw them qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, Sneijder was keen to play down reports in the media.

He told NOS: "I know just as much as you. I don't even read the newspapers, but I've heard about the reports. At the moment it isn't an issue, but every time the transfer window is open, I get linked with all kind of clubs.

"Sometimes it's frustrating, because I have to clarify it with the fans. Here in Turkey, the supporters are very emotional. They have a lot of passion and I don't want to explain things that I don't know about.

"Again, I know just as much as you do. I feel very good at Gala, and I'm glad we're through in the Champions League. You never know, but at this point I'm happy here."

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4019/transfer-zone/2013/12/12/4472269/sneijder-on-manchester-united-links-you-never-know?ICID=HP_BN_1

Thepoet85

I think Sneijder might be a good option short term. He won't set the world alight but he could do a job for us while we try and rebuild for the long term maybe?

Robson99

Right guys which side of the fence would ye be on if ye had to choose. Keanes or Fergies. I would be on Keanes simply because IMO I think he was shafted by Fergie when he felt he was past his prime. Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates on the pitch or in the dressing room for years. Yet he forced him out over this when it didnt suit him

Pen.Island

Robson99 wrote: »

Right guys which side of the fence would ye be on if ye had to choose. Keanes or Fergies. I would be on Keanes simply because IMO I think he was shafted by Fergie when he felt he was past his prime. Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates on the pitch or in the dressing room for years. Yet he forced him out over this when it didnt suit him

Fergie.

Keane is bitter because Fergie showed him who was boss.

homerjay2005

Trilla wrote: »

Ah ok. So you're tired of being frustrated at people willing to give him a chance that you're prepared to give him a chance.

no. im just actually feeling sorry for him. he was about 5 yards away from me last night and i could see on his face that he is struggling.

Your Airbag

Robson99 wrote: »

Right guys which side of the fence would ye be on if ye had to choose. Keanes or Fergies. I would be on Keanes simply because IMO I think he was shafted by Fergie when he felt he was past his prime. Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates on the pitch or in the dressing room for years. Yet he forced him out over this when it didnt suit him

Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates out in the dressing room because thats the right way to go about it, in private. Keane went public and dished out some harsh words, he knew this would have pissed Fergie off as Fergie always defended his players to the cameras.

The phrase "we win as a team, and lose as a team" has some value to it. By all means voice your concern to each other but when Keane bashed them to the cameras he intentionally created a divide between him the team and the manager.

On that one incident Keane was wrong imo but both he and Fergie have their moments and neither are angels or the most rational. I don't really think we have to pick a side but if you forced me I'd go with Fergie. Keane was one of many great players the Fergie guided through UTD.

kryogen

Robson99 wrote: »

Right guys which side of the fence would ye be on if ye had to choose. Keanes or Fergies. I would be on Keanes simply because IMO I think he was shafted by Fergie when he felt he was past his prime. Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates on the pitch or in the dressing room for years. Yet he forced him out over this when it didnt suit him

This is the type of question that has the potential to tear this thread apart, so I will be opting out of answering it.

Robson99

kryogen wrote: »

This is the type of question that has the potential to tear this thread apart, so I will be opting out of answering it.

Sure its no worse than the sh1te thats being going on looking for Moyes to be sacked

magnumbud

Your Airbag wrote: »

I'm sure he can play deeper.

He is cup tied and no spring chicken but if we get him for less than 10m its not bad for a short term option.

He said this (you never know) about the UTD links after the Juve match



http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4019/transfer-zone/2013/12/12/4472269/sneijder-on-manchester-united-links-you-never-know?ICID=HP_BN_1

i remember some video interview with him back when he was odds on to join us and he was asked about going to us and he said we will see or something like that with a smirk on his face... he is such the tease:D

Robson99

Your Airbag wrote: »

Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates out in the dressing room because thats the right way to go about it, in private.

He wasnt afraid to do it on the pitch either in fairness and that not in private and no one had a problem with that

RasTa

Robson99 wrote: »

Sure its no worse than the sh1te thats being going on looking for Moyes to be sacked

Keane has already proven he is a woeful manager, 0 need for him to have a go at his teammates on camera. Bye bye, thanks.

kryogen

Your Airbag wrote: »

Fergie had no problem with Keane bollocking his team mates out in the dressing room because thats the right way to go about it, in private. Keane went public and dished out some harsh words, he knew this would have pissed Fergie off as Fergie always defended his players to the cameras.

The phrase "we win as a team, and lose as a team" has some value to it. By all means voice your concern to each other but when Keane bashed them to the cameras he intentionally created a divide between him the team and the manager.

On that one incident Keane was wrong imo but both he and Fergie have their moments and neither are angels or the most rational. I don't really think we have to pick a side but if you forced me I'd go with Fergie. Keane was one of many great players the Fergie guided through UTD.

The only problem with that is that anything to do with that interview is based on speculation, it really comes down to who you choose to believe also. Both versions of the video and the severity of it are quite different and until we see it (we never will) its impossible to judge it.

kryogen

Robson99 wrote: »

Sure its no worse than the sh1te thats being going on looking for Moyes to be sacked

It is though.

Keane and Fergie will polarise opinion. It is akin to a Saipan discussion, nobody really cares about Moyes very much yet, he would hardly be an absolute legend of the club and a hero to one and all either.

Headshot

Ill always support a player that gave it all on the pitch for utd, who always wanted to stride for his team or international team to be the best. Without keane we wouldnt be as successful as we are now, Fergie would do well to remember that

RasTa

Headshot wrote: »

Ill always support a player that gave it all on the pitch for utd, who always wanted to stride for his team or international team to be the best. Without keane we wouldnt be as successful as we are now, Fergie would do well to remember that

Nonsense, Fergie doesn't need to remember anything. He didn't say anything about Keane anyway that his teammates haven't already said.

kryogen

RasTa wrote: »

Nonsense, Fergie doesn't need to remember anything. He didn't say anything about Keane anyway that his teammates haven't already said.

Fergie could do with remembering plenty actually, not just about Keane.

Headshot

RasTa wrote: »

Nonsense, Fergie doesn't need to remember anything. He didn't say anything about Keane anyway that his teammates haven't already said.

Oh he does need to remember and respect ex players that help him be the greatest manager of all time but instead he degrades ex players that blood, toil, tears and sweat for the cause. I for one that dont agree with some of the stuff Keane says but I would never turn my back on one of the greatest captains our club has ever had.

Pen.Island

Headshot wrote: »

Ill always support a player that gave it all on the pitch for utd, who always wanted to stride for his team or international team to be the best. Without keane we wouldnt be as successful as we are now, Fergie would do well to remember that

And without Fergie how successful would we have been?

Headshot

Pen.Island wrote: »

And without Fergie how successful would we have been?

And without Keane how successful would we be?

RasTa

kryogen wrote: »

Fergie could do with remembering plenty actually, not just about Keane.

Nah nothing for me, you can't look back at his career and not say success, winner etc.

People seem to be forgetting it already

adox

Robson99 wrote: »

Sure its no worse than the sh1te thats being going on looking for Moyes to be sacked

to answer your question, yes I want Moyes sacked.

RasTa

Headshot wrote: »

And without Keane how successful would we be?

Are you honestly trying to say Keane is greater then Fergie. Fergie built that team not Keane, he wasn't carrying it like he did Ireland. Cantona was as equal of an impact then Keane.

Pen.Island

Headshot wrote: »

And without Keane how successful would we be?

We had one of our most dominant spells around 08?

Pen.Island

adox wrote: »

to answer your question, yes I want Moyes sacked.

I think everyone and their dog knows this...you've posted it about 20 times!

Headshot

RasTa wrote: »

Are you honestly trying to say Keane is greater then Fergie. Fergie built that team not Keane, he wasn't carrying it like he did Ireland. Cantona was as equal of an impact then Keane.

You cant have success without the right players. Im not diminishing Fergie's success at all but without the right players he wouldnt have his success. Keane was instrumental to utds success and gave saf that steeping stone for future success. Keane wouldnt go down as the as the best CM to play in the PL without saf. Its basically like weighing scales

RasTa

Headshot wrote: »

You cant have success without the right players. Im not diminishing Fergie's success at all but without the right players he wouldnt have his success. Keane was instrumental to utds success and gave saf that steeping stone for future success. Keane wouldnt go down as the as the best CM to play in the PL without saf. Its basically like weighing scales

Well we had already won the league before he came and you're right about having the right players, it wasn't solely down to Keane that we were successful it was down to the team and culture that Fergie built.

J. Marston

Moyes is at the Atletico game according to the internets.

hufpc8w3adnk65

J. Marston wrote: »

Moyes is at the Atletico game according to the internets.

Koke?

adox

MrMac84 wrote: »

Koke?

No for real............









......gets coat.

Rayne Wooney

J. Marston wrote: »

Moyes is at the Atletico game according to the internets.

MrMac84 wrote: »

Koke?

The_Kew_Tour

J. Marston wrote: »

Moyes is at the Atletico game according to the internets.

not the best quality i will admit

KH25

Please be scouting a midfielder...

Rayne Wooney

Moyes looks like an All Black in that pic

RasTa

Arsenal looking tired in this Napoli game, don't think they will last the season with their squad. Although don't think it will matter much to us.

kryogen

RasTa wrote: »

Nah nothing for me, you can't look back at his career and not say success, winner etc.

People seem to be forgetting it already

Speaks for itself so.

Fergie never needs to remember that without the players that went out there and put their bodies on the line for him, played through injury, gave everything they had for him and the club that he would not have the trophies and accolades to his name.

Never needs to remember to the stuff he preaches, about loyalty, respect, the sanctity of what happens in the dressing room between manager and players.

Never needs to remember anything at all sure.

RasTa

kryogen wrote: »

Speaks for itself so.

Fergie never needs to remember that without the players that went out there and put their bodies on the line for him, played through injury, gave everything they had for him and the club that he would not have the trophies and accolades to his name.

Never needs to remember to the stuff he preaches, about loyalty, respect, the sanctity of what happens in the dressing room between manager and players.

Never needs to remember anything at all sure.

Why would I care about any of this crap with all the success he has brought us.

Would you say Keane is loyal?

kryogen

Pen.Island wrote: »

We had one of our most dominant spells around 08?

Without Ronaldo how dominant would we have been around 08?

Pen.Island

kryogen wrote: »

Without Ronaldo how dominant would we have been around 08?

Wasn't Keane though was it?

KH25

RasTa wrote: »

Arsenal looking tired in this Napoli game, don't think they will last the season with their squad. Although don't think it will matter much to us.

Their squad needs investment but their first 11 is very good. A few players in January could make a huge difference.

J. Marston

RasTa wrote: »

Arsenal looking tired in this Napoli game, don't think they will last the season with their squad. Although don't think it will matter much to us.

I hope they do. I'd prefer them to win the league over Chelsea or City (or Liverpool...say it quietly!)

They'll probably buy again in January anyway.

kryogen

Pen.Island wrote: »

Wasn't Keane though was it?

So?

It is another player who Fergie relied on to deliver him success.

There have been many through the years.

You can say without Fergie how successful would we have been, and someone else can justifiably also ask how successful would we have been without Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic?

Nobody is belittling Fergies achievements, but to ignore the players who brought him the success is blinkered

The_Kew_Tour

Here is better picture lads;)

Paul Lambert it looks like next to him.

Hopefully Moyes gave him brown envelope.;)

sundula

KH25 wrote: »

Please be scouting a midfielder...

Like SAF, Moye's is helping MU scout his replacement - Diego Simeone.

Pen.Island

People go on about Fergusons loyalty and values, he did all the right things for the club imo.

Keanes wasn't very loyal to team mates was he? Criticising them publicly.

Pen.Island

kryogen wrote: »

So?

It is another player who Fergie relied on to deliver him success.

There have been many through the years.

You can say without Fergie how successful would we have been, and someone else can justifiably also ask how successful would we have been without Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic?

Nobody is belittling Fergies achievements, but to ignore the players who brought him the success is blinkered

It's all down to players so? Not fergies attitude or tactics??

How successful have Madrid been the last few years?