Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod warning post #718

kryogen

Welbeck will score today, the power of positive thinking vs logic.

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LuckyLloyd

Delighted to see Fletcher back in the Utd squad. Some amount of dedication and willpower from him. If he could stay healthy for an extended period he'd be a great asset for you guys, hopefully that is the case.

Kerrydude1981

Very honest interview from Evra.

Your Airbag

I've never been as happy to see a player back on the bench as I have Fletcher. Good player and badly needed.

I just hope its not to soon ala Hargreaves.

kryogen

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Delighted to see Fletcher back in the Utd squad. Some amount of dedication and willpower from him. If he could stay healthy for an extended period he'd be a great asset for you guys, hopefully that is the case.

That would be a nice thought, but I have a feeling he is there more because we don't have anybody else to even fill the bench then him being ready for Premier League football

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

Welbeck will score today, the power of positive thinking vs logic.

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Positive thinking 1
Logical thinking 0

tallaghtmick

kryogen wrote: »

Welbeck will score today, the power of positive thinking vs logic.

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Worked.

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kryogen wrote: »

Positive thinking 1
Logical thinking 0

2-0

beno619

lol, Welbeck haters

tallaghtmick

kryogen wrote: »

Positive thinking 1
Logical thinking 0

Quick lotto numbers now!!!

kryogen

Best finisher in Europe? I think so

Quandary

Welbeck




:eek:

Giggsy11

Played as striker and he scored goals.

kryogen

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Played as striker and he scored goals.

Amazing isn't it, I love that he went through Jan basically to get the second. Shows real desire and decisiveness

Nalz

Shocking defending by Villa

Really really awful

Will I Amnt

If he started out wide he would have missed both chances. He's an enigma, wrapped up in a mystery and buried in a box of WTF.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

lol, Welbeck haters

lol if only he had been doing this for the last 24 months he'd have more people behind him

Rayne Wooney

In the last 3 seasons he's had 44 apps as a striker for United and scored 15 goals.

That's pretty poor for a striker at one of the best clubs in the world.


A win here would not be much of an achievement, Villa are defending woefully from the wings and leaving their fullbacks isolated, and all of the teams we've struggled against this season have mostly nullified our attack by stopping our wingers.

In short it's worked so far today but I don't think it will work against a more organised defence and that's been our problem this season.

tallaghtmick

Piss test for Danny and Clev.

POSSY

omlette....im starving and going mad looking for the right eggs

beno619

magnumbud wrote: »

lol if only he had been doing this for the last 24 months he'd have more people behind him

If he'd played up front for the past 24 months he might have more people behind him.

J. Marston

Welbeck and Cleverley, you're both still crap but you've earned a week free of criticism.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

If he'd played up front for the past 24 months he might have more people behind him.

yeah cause being played out of position turns your touch and general ability to hit the target to muck. must remind rooney of that next time he is pushed out wide.

i'm happy for him today but sure he has been played out a position alot but he has been given chances up front too and failed to score.

Zico

They're all at it now. If Ashley Young comes on and manages not to fall over it will be the full set.

tallaghtmick

Gonna see Fletch for sure now

Mars Bar

POSSY wrote: »

omlette....im starving and going mad looking for the right eggs

There's a streams thread. Please use it.

beno619

J. Marston wrote: »

Cleverley, you're still crap but you've earned a week free of criticism.

Fixed

beno619

magnumbud wrote: »

yeah cause being played out of position turns your touch and general ability to hit the target to muck. must remind rooney of that next time he is pushed out wide.

i'm happy for him today but sure he has been played out a position alot but he has been given chances up front too and failed to score.

Yes actually, Rooney was awful last season, his excuse would be playing out of position.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

Yes actually, Rooney was awful last season, his excuse would be playing out of position.

rooney was awful last season cause he had fallen out with fergie and wanted out. look back at his younger days. he was played on the left a whole load when ronaldo was at his best and still managed to play well and score.

PhlegmyMoses

magnumbud wrote: »

rooney was awful last season cause he had fallen out with fergie and wanted out. look back at his younger days. he was played on the left a whole load when ronaldo was at his best and still managed to play well and score.

Welbeck often plays quite well. It's the scoring part that he struggles with.

Also, comparing anyone but the anybody with Rooney is a tad harsh

beno619

magnumbud wrote: »

rooney was awful last season cause he had fallen out with fergie and wanted out. look back at his younger days. he was played on the left a whole load when ronaldo was at his best and still managed to play well and score.

I refuse to accept Welbeck is the poor player some people want to make him out to be.

Bags of ability and not consistently played up front, on the rare occasion that he scores his goals tend to ooze class and quality.

Zico

Fletch lives!

tallaghtmick

Mars Bar wrote: »

There's a streams thread. Please use it.

I had no idea what he was on about...now I know

Great to see Fletch back

magnumbud

welcome back fletch

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Welbeck often plays quite well. It's the scoring part that he struggles with.

Also, comparing anyone but the anybody with Rooney is a tad harsh

fair point. but i dont take the playing out of position as an full excuse. he has still got himself into goal scoring positions and fluffed his chances. what irked me is the smug almost you were proven wrong statement 1 game does not change whaat has happend for the last couple of years.

as i said happy for him today and cleveley too. local lads who came through with big reputations if they keep this up i will gladly accept being proven wrong

beno619 wrote: »

I refuse to accept Welbeck is the poor player some people want to make him out to be.

Bags of ability and not consistently played up front, on the rare occasion that he scores his goals tend to ooze class and quality.

yes he has ability but he is a striker at a massive club played out of position or not as a stirker his ability in front of goal has not shone through and 5 or 6 goals in a season and a half considering how often he gets played is not good enough. i dont doubt he is a scorer of great goals but he has to be a great goal scorer if he is to be long term at united

beno619

magnumbud wrote: »

yes he has ability but he is a striker at a massive club played out of position or not his as a stirker his ability in front of goal has not shone through and 5 or 6 goals in a season and a half considering how often he gets played is not good enough. i dont doubt he is a scorer of great goals but he has to be a great goal scorer if he is to be long term at united

Agreed. But for a player who's main weakness is his goal scoring, surely he needs to played consistently up front to have any chance of improving.

I just find the criticism harsh vs someone like Cleverley who clearly isn't good enough and rarely puts in a shift.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

Agreed. But for a player who's main weakness is his goal scoring, surely he needs to played consistently up front to have any chance of improving.

I just find the criticism harsh vs someone like Cleverley who clearly isn't good enough and rarely puts in a shift.

see i then think your being too harsh on cleverley. much like welbeck he has the ability imo but just doesnt show it enough both need to get their heads down and train even harder both in their 3rd season as regulars need to put up or shut up

Lord TSC

Good win, much needed one, though against a very poor Villa team. Felt they had a lot of the ball today and a better team will punish us when we give them that time.

Regardless, 3 points on the board and hopefully the start of a turnaround...

Headshot

Very disappointing we didnt score more goals against an awful team. At least its an easy 3 points

beno619

I dont believe Cleverley is good enough, but I Digress, il take positive performances.

Jones, Evans and Rafa were a big plus today Fletch looks like he's never been away.

Rayne Wooney

It's still basically the exact same brand of football we've been playing all season but against poorer opposition than usual.

Hopefully the result is a confidence boost.

titan18

It's nice not to be pissed off after watching United play. Hopefully, that'll continue again.

Hank Scorpio

good performance, now push on and win the last 3 games and be in a good position come january

Quandary

Badly needed win there today and it's nice to feel positive about a Utd performance for a change this season.

I thought fletcher was very good considering how long he's been out.

Hopefully this is the confidence booster the players need to kick on.

Timmyctc

When we win the league in may we'll look back on this match as the turning point.








:pac:

How Soon Is Now

Easy win almost to easy and that fact takes away slightly from what was a good performance from most of the team.

Delighted to see Welbeck get few goals today he looked really up for it and worked very hard and looked like he wanted something right up until last minute.

He gets so much **** on here and i think a lot of it is not deserved. If he could improve his finishing in front of goal he would be a very good squad player for United cause his work rate and heart is never lacking.

Cleverly had a good one today as well done the little things right and even got a goal.

Really it was a good day for the ones we all love to hate even Valencia looked like a player today.

Rayne Wooney

Cue us losing the next 3

PhlegmyMoses

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Cue us losing the next 3

Nah, this team is better than they've shown. They'll improve as the season goes on.

Quandary

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Cue us losing the next 3

Can we not have our moment in the sun just for today?

Giggsy11

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It's still basically the exact same brand of football we've been playing all season but against poorer opposition than usual.

Hopefully the result is a confidence boost.

Nope, today was much better and we created lot more chances than we did all season against any team in the league.

Poorer opposition who won against City at Villa park this season IIRC?

How hard is it to say "played well today"..

RasTa

Powell on the score sheet again for Wigan. Has he turned into another #10?