Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

CatFromHue

Tommy and Aido are pretty incompetent though.

AnonoBoy

CatFromHue wrote: »

Tommy and Aido are pretty incompetent though.

I smell a wacky sitcom spinoff!

hatrickpatrick

CatFromHue wrote: »

Tommy and Aido are pretty incompetent though.

Pretty much everyone in Love/Hate is incompetent to some degree. The vast majority of the storylines have stemmed from one or more characters royally f*cking up a job.

Gits_bone

Ah now that it's died down I think it's best they leave it.

BuilderPlumber

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Pretty much everyone in Love/Hate is incompetent to some degree. The vast majority of the storylines have stemmed from one or more characters royally f*cking up a job.

That is true. Nidge's downfall if he is truly dead came exactly from incompetence .

CatFromHue

It's funny watching the first series as Nidge is such a background character and Fran isn't in it all!

Neither are the cops.

CatFromHue

It's funny watching the first series as Nidge is such a background character and Fran isn't in it all!

Neither are the cops.

BuilderPlumber

CatFromHue wrote: »

It's funny watching the first series as Nidge is such a background character and Fran isn't in it all!

Neither are the cops.

The intention of the first series was to focus around Darren's struggles between revenge and his love for his girlfriend and sister. Nidge was a support character albeit a major one. But it was Darren and John Boy who were the main characters.

Fran came along in series 2 and by series 3, it was clear that Nidge and Fran were the main characters. Series 4 and 5 were written to have these 2 the most prominent.

The cops play a very minor role in the first 3 series. Mostly to arrest Nidge and co from time to time and to support a storyline e.g. Dano putting things together that Nidge's outfit were responsible for Git's death when Nidge is questioned for this. Corrupt cop Martin appears in series 2 of course and Terry is seen in series 3. But Mick Moynihan is only introduced late in the first episode of series 4.

JamieHP

www.joe.ie/entertainment/lovehate-will-be-going-to-hawaii-for-its-american-adaptation/488490
American version is going to be set in Hawaii.

JamieHP

www.joe.ie/entertainment/lovehate-will-be-going-to-hawaii-for-its-american-adaptation/488490
American version is going to be set in Hawaii.

JamieHP

JamieHP wrote: »

www.joe.ie/entertainment/lovehate-will-be-going-to-hawaii-for-its-american-adaptation/488490
American version is going to be set in Hawaii.

Aloha boola Nidgey! So instead of blue hoodies there will be hawaiian shirts

I would say the Hawaiins wont be too happy about a state that is depending heavily on tourism being portrayed in this fashion although it could boost tourism if its a hit

BuilderPlumber

I wonder will the American version follow the same story or will it be a new story? Hawaii would indicate the focus will be on heroin coming from SE Asia? Since there is a scriptwriter, it may be an entirely new storyline?? Which would be excellent. Because remakes seldom work out and it would be good to see something new. A 100% copy of the Irish Love/Hate and/or Breaking Bad would be less interesting as both these did it excellent the first time around.

And the sixth season for Ireland seems to be on course as well. It would be great to have both come out later this year. In the US version, the Japanese Yakuza could be brought in and that would make things very interesting. Perhaps, the US Nidge may be a Yakuza.

Kerplunk124

Would be cool if the US version had completely different stories and character and some sort of crossover may happen with Season 6 of the Irish one. Highly doubtful but would be cool.

Kerplunk124

Kerplunk124 wrote: »

Would be cool if the US version had completely different stories and character and some sort of crossover may happen with Season 6 of the Irish one. Highly doubtful but would be cool.

I actually always think of Hawaii as a different country to the US despite them being in Union with them in the same way i see Scotland and Wales as different countries to England. Its more a case of seeing the cultural differences as opposed to the political boundaries. Totally unrelated to this thread i realise.

Gadgetman496

Kieran O' Reilly known as the undercover cop in Love Hate and then it was revealed that he was an actual real-life Garda in the National Drugs Unit is on the Saturday night show tomorrow. Kieran will also be performing the track "Headstoned" with his band 'Hail the Ghost'.

FloatingVoter

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually always think of Hawaii as a different country to the US despite them being in Union with them in the same way i see Scotland and Wales as different countries to England. Its more a case of seeing the cultural differences as opposed to the political boundaries. Totally unrelated to this thread i realise.

True enough, and this time Nidge and co. will have Magnum to reckon with.

Nidge and Walter White to join forces


http://www.joe.ie/entertainment/nidge-and-breaking-bads-walter-white-are-to-team-up-as-tom-vaughen-lawlor-lands-role-in-major-film/490834

CatFromHue

Join forces for good too

rob316

Good for him, he worked damn hard on the Nidge character. When you consider his real life personality Nidge is a bit of a transformation.

kitten_k

http://www.her.ie/news/lovehate-star-arrested-in-connection-with-attempted-armed-robbery-at-dublin-pub/232431

Love/Hate star Stephen Clinch was reportedly arrested in connection with an attempted armed robbery at a Dublin pub.

The Irish Sun claims that the 49-year-old actor was detained and questioned by gardaí investigating a botched raid in the city centre.

Two men allegedly entered The Living Room pub on Cathal Brugha Street on Monday morning, at approximately 8.00am, and took around €50,000 in cash.

Unfortunately for the perpetrators, members of staff managed to pin them down until the gardaí arrived at the scene.

Clinch played Noely in the most recent series of RTÉ's hit crime drama Love/Hate.

Barnavave

Noely will be snookered if he gets remanded in custody.

chughes

Barnavave wrote: »

Noely will be snookered if he gets remanded in custody.

There might be a queue waiting for him.....

Barnavave

chughes wrote: »

There might be a queue waiting for him.....

Cue, a load of bad jokes....

Gadgetman496

Yep! He'll be the butt of many jokes now...

Was he part of some sort of criminal 'triangle'?

Gadgetman496

Deleted User wrote: »

Was he part of some sort of criminal 'triangle'?

Dunno, but if he's convicted the long rest will give him plenty of time to think about it.

MojoRisinnnn

These jokes are seriously sad but I'll chalk it down to you all feeling tired on Wednesday

Gadgetman496

He probably needed the money as a cushion between acting jobs?

Gadgetman496

The judge will give him the maximum for sure?

Gadgetman496

Getting caught by the staff was a bad break...

Gadgetman496

Bet Fran got a kick when he read about this?

Gadgetman496

Maybe he'll get off with it? He might have the judge in his pocket.....

Gadgetman496

One thing's for sure, it will put a black spot on his CV.

Gadgetman496

If he does get sent down he'll have plenty of time to nap.

Gadgetman496

Time inside will improve his safety play.

MojoRisinnnn

gadgetman496 wrote: »

If he does get sent down he'll have plenty of time to nap.

Winner

Gadgetman496

Love/Hate actor charged over armed robbery at Dublin hotel

Some one may keep an eye on his ma's grave while he is in there

Barnavave

Could be a lucky break if he gets bail, but I am sure he could do with a rest.

Barnavave

No bail, just jail.

hatrickpatrick

Has there been any update at all on the status of season 6? All the news stories I've found talk about the US version, not a peep about the Irish one for several months

EDIT: Spoke too soon
http://www.goss.ie/2015/05/stuart-carolan-ive-no-energy-to-do-another-series-of-lovehate/

firestarter51

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Has there been any update at all on the status of season 6? All the news stories I've found talk about the US version, not a peep about the Irish one for several months

EDIT: Spoke too soon
http://www.goss.ie/2015/05/stuart-carolan-ive-no-energy-to-do-another-series-of-lovehate/

Rte said it wasn't coming back this year

http://www.thejournal.ie/lovehate-sixth-season-1782681-Nov2014/

BuilderPlumber

Has there been any update at all on the status of season 6? All the news stories I've found talk about the US version, not a peep about the Irish one for several months

EDIT: Spoke too soon
http://www.goss.ie/2015/05/stuart-ca...s-of-lovehate/
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firestarter51 wrote: »

Rte said it wasn't coming back this year

http://www.thejournal.ie/lovehate-sixth-season-1782681-Nov2014/

I know there is nothing this year but I hope we get Love/Hate back in the near future. Stuart did not rule it out in what he says: just he wants to take a rest for now. A gap of a few years may well aid where the story goes: Fran out of prison on a technicality, Tommy recovered and possibly even Nidge surviving a la John Gilligan.

The focus at present seems to be on an Old IRA drama for the 100th anniversary of 1916 written by the guy who wrote the Charlie Haughey drama. It should be decent. I also would hope some of the Love/Hate cast are in it as it would be perfect. Along with the more obvious ones (TVL, Peter Coonan, Charly Murphy, etc.), I'd like to see Jason Barry in particular reprising his role as a tough IRA man.

But what will be on Sunday nights in October-November this year?

CatFromHue

I think I'd be happier if it didn't come back.

Nidge can't survive, he was shot too badly and they already pulled that trick with Darren for season 2.
Tommy hasn't been a functional criminal since season 3, was it?
Fran I don't know, but he has killed his own gang and without Nidge he's nothing.

BuilderPlumber

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think I'd be happier if it didn't come back.

Nidge can't survive, he was shot too badly and they already pulled that trick with Darren for season 2.
Tommy hasn't been a functional criminal since season 3, was it?
Fran I don't know, but he has killed his own gang and without Nidge he's nothing.

Certainly, the first 5 seasons have been wrapped up neatly in season 5. But I'd love a season 6. But maybe a lot of the original actors in it will not be available for it is one issues. Nidge is shot too badly but there is a chance he could survive albeit he would not be the active man we see in series 1 to 5. John Gilligan did survive something similar.

Tommy was in and out of poor health for season 4 and was in a coma for all season 5. Even in the first 3, he was never the hardened criminal others were and this is why the cops look on him kindly as well. As far as I know, Tommy never killed anyone in it? He attempted to kill Fran reluctantly for John Boy but fails and he kicked rapist Git to an inch of his life but it was Darren who killed him (Siobhan blames Nidge later for Darren's handiwork with the keg!). For Tommy to be revived out of his coma, you do need Nidge alive as well. Nidge has caused directly and indirectly all Tommy's problems.

Likewise, Fran. Fran's motivation in a new series is revenge against those who raped him. Of course, he knows Noelie did this but because of Nidge. Same with Patrick. Or Siobhan if she survives.

So, I think if there is a season 6, it will have to have Nidge in it or not have it at all. One could have a spinoff show focusing on Patrick and Terence with a new set of characters and Fran in it too (possibly wrapping up the Noelie revenge akin to how Lizzie gets her end in series 5). And it is right to take a break to get this in order if that is to be.

But if we are not to have Love/Hate or a spinoff under a new name, we do want to see another quality crime drama written by someone like Carolan. And not some poor reality TV or Week in Politics style fare.

rob316

Just leave it now, everyone is dead, or in jail. The show is forgotten about now and had a fantastic ending. An Irish masterpiece of television, why bring it back and risk ruining it?

CatFromHue

The show was pretty much about Nidge's rise to power, it's his show. He's gone now so that's the end of the show.

BuilderPlumber

CatFromHue wrote: »

The show was pretty much about Nidge's rise to power, it's his show. He's gone now so that's the end of the show.

Just leave it now, everyone is dead, or in jail. The show is forgotten about now and had a fantastic ending. An Irish masterpiece of television, why bring it back and risk ruining it?

The Love/Hate as we know it probably ends with series 5. It was a great series and inspired us to believe in good Irish drama. In an age of bland chatshows, depressing political debate shows, etc., Love/Hate was the real deal. Quality TV and a masterpiece.

I can see the argument for not having another series. But I hope that its legacy is kept and that Sunday TV does not as said revert back to bad political debates, reality programmes and/or sticking on films we saw 100s of times before.

One thing Irish TV has not done is a quality cop show. This clearly is the way a new drama with roots in Love/Hate can emerge. The new show could feature Mick Moynihan and co tackling new gangs possibly including some of the remnants of the old Love/Hate gangs. Call it a new name and you could go 1 of 2 ways: have a continuous story a la Love/Hate or have standalone episodes with the cops dealing with a new crime each week. I'd have it in the style of the darker Miami Vice episodes with a good deal of tension, violence and twists.

Skullface McGubbin

rob316 wrote: »

Just leave it now, everyone is dead, or in jail. The show is forgotten about now and had a fantastic ending. An Irish masterpiece of television, why bring it back and risk ruining it?

Agreed. It would be like Breaking Bad continuing without Walter White.

I hope there will be more decent homegrown stuff in the future but it will be a long time before we see anything from RTE in the same league as Love/Hate.

Ash.J.Williams

start again .....new show new gang ....just like in real life....i'd even allow them resurrect dead cast members