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Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    I'm watching it again on RTÉ player.
    And it's every bit as good as it was the first time around.

    One of the best Irish drama productions ever.


  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was a good show alright but it was going downhill in seasons 4 and 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    It certainly became more violent in the latter seasons.
    I've just finished season 2.
    Hope to get through 3 tonight.

    Pity Carolan doesn't write a one off special as a follow up.
    See where Fran, Tommy and Trish are now.
    Even bring back Mary Tracey and Rosie.
    Lots of scope seeing that Nidge Wiesel is a goner.
    Or is he...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    Just finished it recently again coincidentally. What a show.
    It was a good show alright but it was going downhill in seasons 4 and 5.

    I thought these were just as good if not better to be honest. Introduction of Paulie, more with Patrick, the guards etc. I thought it got more realistic too and was far less romanticized. Ah they were all great seasons to be honest!! :D


  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It certainly became more violent in the latter seasons.
    I've just finished season 2.
    Hope to get through 3 tonight.

    Pity Carolan doesn't write a one off special as a follow up.
    See where Fran, Tommy and Trish are now.
    Even bring back Mary Tracey and Rosie.
    Lots of scope seeing that Nidge Wiesel is a goner.
    Or is he...

    He should do a love/hate 2.0
    New characters and a new storyline.

    He could explore more how gangs operate behind bars and a proper gang war with rival gangs.

    I do like how the show ultimately shows that gang life generally doesn't end well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    See where Fran, Tommy and Trish are now.
    Even bring back Mary Tracey and Rosie.
    Lots of scope seeing that Nidge Wiesel is a goner.
    Or is he...
    If Fran is still alive, he's probably in and out of psychiatric institutions, heavily sedated and a shadow of his former self.

    Tommy is in a nursing home being tube fed. Unloved and unvisited and waiting to die. In his semi conscious moments has hazy memories of a woman he once loved. Sometimes she has dark hair, sometimes red and he can't recall her name. He has no awareness or recollection of being a farther. Sometimes he says "Darren" and smiles.

    Mary has set up a community group of mother's against gangs and gives talks in schools about the fate of her two brothers as a cautionary tale ( but drinks a bottle of wine at night to numb the pain and forget how Darren "helped " her when she had a bit of a stalker problem.

    Trish has come down in the world, CAB took everything so now she and the boys are living in a hotel waiting for a council house. She's hit the sauce hard and seriously let herself go. No more acrylics and extensions and clothes all are now from Penny's.

    Rosie's doing materially well for herself in Canada or Oz. She will never truly get over Darren and is achingly lonely as a result but pushes all men away as she can't trust them. Darren's paradoxical personality of gentle murderer has permanently damaged her ability to form a romantic bond with any man.

    Happily ever after, folks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    I do like how the show ultimately shows that gang life generally doesn't end well.

    I agree.

    So far in first 2 seasons I've seen
    Robbie Tracey shot by Hughie Power, just because -let's face it, Hughie was missing a few grey cells.
    Elmo shot accidentally by Darren Tracey, but he survived.
    Stumpy beaten by Darren, cos he'd assaulted Rosie during her pregnancy.

    Jimmy Byrne shot by Hughie, again, because Hughie was itching to kill him cos he was top suspect in Robbie shooting-a rumour started by Hughie, despite Hughie having already killed Robbie himself. :rolleyes:

    Hughie fatally shot in head by self. Accidentally, of course, seeing as he couldn't possibly have done it successfully had it been deliberate.

    Darren shot by Stumpy- personal revenge, Darren survived.
    Stumpy killed by Darren on orders of John Boy Power.
    Fran attempted murder of John Boy cos a drug deal went wrong.
    Fran's wife Linda suffered horrific facial injuries in pipe bomb attack on her home, Nidge threw it, JBP ordered it-Linda took her own life afterwards as she couldn't live with the disfigurement.

    Darren ordered to kill Aido but Nidge side tracked him and ordered him to kill John Boy instead.
    Aido kneecapped.
    And the swan, poor swan killed by Luke, one of the more disturbing scenes in L/H

    And 3 more seasons to go.
    Oh to be an undertaker in Dublin.
    Not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    I’m rewatching season 3.

    Does anybody know where the pub that Git got killed in is located?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,556 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    bazermc wrote: »
    I’m rewatching season 3.

    Does anybody know where the pub that Git got killed in is located?

    Isn't that the one on the south quays beside Guinness's, on the corner of Watling St? Can't remember what it was called but it's been closed up for a long time, I think they resurrected it for the filming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Isn't that the one on the south quays beside Guinness's, on the corner of Watling St? Can't remember what it was called but it's been closed up for a long time, I think they resurrected it for the filming.

    Thanks. But that’s not the one I was thinking of.

    That pub is the one that was owned by Git and dano (the Napier Tandy). the pub where he raped Siobhán and was Murdered was one where the Nidge and gang use to hangout. I think they called it the Sheebean on the show.


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm watching it again on RTÉ player. ............

    I rely on Virgin on demand RTE player and can't seem to see Love Hate available to view on it?
    I have it on DVD in my Dad's house alright but I've no DVD player in my own place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Augeo wrote: »
    I rely on Virgin on demand RTE player and can't seem to see Love Hate available to view on it?
    I have it on DVD in my Dad's house alright but I've no DVD player in my own place.

    I watch it on the app on my phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    ixus wrote: »
    "I can see it now, Tommy, Nidge & Fran all wake up in a room together. One brain, one heart and one arse transplant. All donated by Siobhan." - Facebook gold

    Aaron to seek revenge for his Ma.

    I believe his name is Arrrrdin


    ... ...

    Just finished watching thru this on RTE Player for the first time since the show aired. Fúcking great show.

    Had good fun reading thru the pages-and-pages today from when episodes aired live.

    I'll leave you with my favourite clip from the show:

    'We will in our brown, we'll go as we are. Sure if it wasn't for me, Nidge would be getting married in some gaff by the Red Cow roundabout.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭dball


    seems to be back on rte player (maybe it was always there) i never watched it before so ill start this weekend.

    https://www.rte.ie/player/series/love-hate/SI0000000982?epguid=IP000053834&seasonguid=76851240067


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,517 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I'd rather dip my eyes in acid than use RTE Player to watch anything, it's pure torture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭dball


    oh yeah, i forgot about that part, you're right - not worth it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I've watched love/hate on the player, it's been there a long time AFAIK.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    I watched it for the first time a over the Christmas. Used the RTE Player for the first season, it's tough going with that, what with the ads.
    Thankfully a chap I work with brought me in the DVD boxset. So much easier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Does anyone know when this is likely to air? And far more importantly, will they be airing it with the original epic soundtrack as opposed to the DVD versions where they couldn't get the rights to the music they originally used?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,517 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Does anyone know when this is likely to air? And far more importantly, will they be airing it with the original epic soundtrack as opposed to the DVD versions where they couldn't get the rights to the music they originally used?


    Perhaps they will shortly reshow it seeing as they are showing repeats of stuff on prime time that was shown on prime time a few months ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Perhaps they will shortly reshow it seeing as they are showing repeats of stuff on prime time that was shown on prime time a few months ago.

    They've officially announced a re-air, just no date, the feckers :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I'd rather dip my eyes in acid than use RTE Player to watch anything, it's pure torture.

    Remarkably, it works reasonably well on my LG television.

    I don't know why it is so bad on a Windows PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    dball wrote: »
    seems to be back on rte player (maybe it was always there) i never watched it before so ill start this weekend.

    https://www.rte.ie/player/series/love-hate/SI0000000982?epguid=IP000053834&seasonguid=76851240067

    I think RTE should air it again, was it ever repeated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I've watched love/hate on the player, it's been there a long time AFAIK.
    It'd want to be there a long time for the player to start working. Did you finish the first episode yet? Still buffering, or just ads and crash?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    They should do a new season or even a 2 episode special


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    They should do a new season or even a 2 episode special

    A prequel film with all would be good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    A prequel film with all would be good

    That would be good and even tie in some real life into it

    Veronica Guerin, The General etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I always assumed I'd hate this so I never watched it. Hated listening to the kids in school going on about it. But I decided to give it a go on the Player over Christmas, and ended up binging the whole lot over a couple of weeks. I absolutely loved it! Can't believe I avoided it at the time. I never have any issues with RTE Player. I'm watching Castle Rock on it at the moment.

    I'll definitely be re-watching the show "live". Thought they had announced a date for it when I saw this thread pop up. Keep us informed if any of you hear when it's on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    endacl wrote: »
    It'd want to be there a long time for the player to start working. Did you finish the first episode yet? Still buffering, or just ads and crash?

    How are you accessing the player?

    I loaded it up on the android app and casted it to the TV. Worked well.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭robwen


    RTE announced last week they will be airing the original five series of Love/Hate as part of their ‘In This Together’ campaign.
    Bachelors Walk and Pure Mule will also make their return to RTE in the next number of weeks.

    No dates for broadcast yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    robwen wrote: »
    RTE announced last week they will be airing the original five series of Love/Hate as part of their ‘In This Together’ campaign.
    Bachelors Walk and Pure Mule will also make their return to RTE in the next number of weeks.

    No dates for broadcast yet

    Love /Hate Yes!!!
    The other two? not so much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Regarding a new season, it's clearly way, way too late for that. But a prequel a la Better Call Saul could be fun, following maybe John Boy as an up and coming criminal and showing how he assembled his gang and rose to power. You'd almost certainly have to have a totally different cast to make it work, given how much they'll all have aged since the 2010 season, but it could still be incredible and you could find ways of working in some cameos from the eventual cast as well. Better Call Saul has been an epic enough prequel that a lot of people are now genuinely (and not without some merit IMO) calling it as good as or even marginally more engrossing than Breaking Bad, prequels tend to have a bad rap but they can be done beautifully when you have showrunners who are willing to avoid fan service and excess for the sake of excess. Most prequels fail because they try to emulate the original as opposed to developing their own identity as part of a larger universe, and I for one would trust Carolan and the team behind Love/Hate to get that right if they were given the opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    I'd rather dip my eyes in acid than use RTE Player to watch anything, it's pure torture.

    Casting from the app to a chromecast cuts a lot of the **** and all the ads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I wouldn't like to see there being a prequel or sequel.

    Did all the seasons again a few weeks back and even though John Boy is a massive character, it really is the Nidge show. He really comes into his own post series 2 but even in the first two seasons Nigel really is the main character.
    His death really was the natural ending

    Looked at Pure Mule lately. Fantastic show and completely worth a re-watch but it really is of it's time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    I'm in New Zealand and the missus is a Kiwi, introduced her to Love/Hate a few months ago and she can't get enough of it, trouble is it was a boxset of just the first 3 seasons, can't seem to find it online anywhere apart from RTE Player which is next to useless here unless you want the 9 o'clock news or Fair City. Even if I use a VPN, it will show up in the list of programmes, but sh*tes itself when I go to play it.

    Any ideas?

    Also, would love to watch Pure Mule properly again. Onrail.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Seams to be on dailymotion, season 4 and 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    RTE finally repeating starting Fridays once The Late Late Show finishes up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,517 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    RTE finally repeating starting Fridays once The Late Late Show finishes up

    They should do double or triple shows back to back.

    Season 1 is a very slow burner compared to the others. Show gets much better when Nidge gets the focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    They should do double or triple shows back to back.

    Season 1 is a very slow burner compared to the others. Show gets much better when Nidge gets the focus.

    When I watched the whole thing back, I actually thought the first series is the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Worst season is the one with the Garda surveillance and the dentist. Best season is probably the last. I liked the 1st season it was a great introduction to the story and characters.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Back on Fridays on RTE1 starting Fri 5th June at 22.50.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,519 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Threads merged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    10 years since it first aired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nidge updating his bebo :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Was just about to watch this now but didn't record it and its not on the player as advertised, ah well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Was just about to watch this now but didn't record it and its not on the player as advertised, ah well!

    It is on the player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    series one was the weakest for me , the show moved up a gear when pretty boy hitman robert sheehan got whacked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,676 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Nidges wife was a fine looking woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Nidges wife was a fine looking woman.

    If you like the trashy girl sort


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    series one was the weakest for me , the show moved up a gear when pretty boy hitman robert sheehan got whacked

    For me Sheehan is an awfully weak actor. Most of the rest were excellent, could you imagine somebody living that life and wearing eyeliner?


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