Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

Witcher

DG7 wrote: »

They would have hi address from the arrests/court service/prison service.

His address? :pac:

'Caravan
The field
Ireland'

rob316

RobertKK wrote: »

A couple of the story lines are silly.

They tried to kill the Traveller/pipe bomb maker twice, they knew after the first time he was wearing a bullet proof, surely a real criminal gang would have communicated this for the second attempt.

Surely there would be two Gardai and not just one with a prisoner in hospital.

Funny you say that was just chatting to a friend who works in a hospital. She said when a prisoners comes in two would bring him in but one would stay. He would never be left out of cuffs though.

irishfeen

DG7 wrote: »

They would have hi address from the arrests/court service/prison service.

No fixed Abode

Grandeeod

Lacks a budget at this stage. Its all good, but to lamp up the pace and maintain a cohesive storyline, it needs more episodes per series. RTE discover a gem, but insist on paying the union crew and usual suspects a fortune rather than fund the most positively talked about TV show they've ever had!

Mind boggles. This pitiful attitude means it will never sell abroad in any meaningful way.

Ash.J.Williams

Looks like feck all will happen next week and it will roll on to another series

Cienciano

Nidge spent the entire episode trying to look menacing or angry. He's turning into a cartoon villain.

Hitchens

what did ye think Fran was going to ask the officer to do for him in the toilet?

RoryMac

Don't think the Guards know where Fran's place is, that was the reason giving for burying Git there.

I doubt the guards would have left Fran alone up there all this time running dog fights if they knew about it

irishfeen

Grandeeod wrote: »

Lacks a budget at this stage. Its all good, but to lamp up the pace and maintain a cohesive storyline, it needs more episodes per series. RTE discover a gem, but insist on paying the union crew and usual suspects a fortune rather than fund the most positively talked about TV show they've ever had!

Mind boggles. This pitiful attitude means it will never sell abroad in any meaningful way.

I don't think RTÉ has the money to finance more episodes - they are not HBO, BBC or AMC ... they are a very small broadcaster.

Sardonicat

Blay wrote: »

His address? :pac:

'Caravan
The field
Ireland'

"The Bone Yard"?

Atlantic Dawn

RobertKK wrote: »

A couple of the story lines are silly.
They tried to kill the Traveller/pipe bomb maker twice, they knew after the first time he was wearing a bullet proof, surely a real criminal gang would have communicated this for the second attempt.

Aido told the shooter to shoot Patrick in the face as he would be wearing a vest.

DazMarz

DazMarz wrote: »

Donna, the gee-bag... :P

Well to be fair to her the prospect of acid in her face was a great incentive to drive off

SimonTemplar

Cienciano wrote: »

Nidge spent the entire episode trying to look menacing or angry. He's turning into a cartoon villain.

To be honest, half the scumbags I see walking around Dublin try to look menacing and angry. I'd swear they practice it in the mirror before leaving the house :pac:

DynamiteC101

RoryMac wrote: »

Don't think the Guards know where Fran's place is, that was the reason giving for burying Git there.

I doubt the guards would have left Fran alone up there all this time running dog fights if they knew about it

Yeah but he went to Deans house first as well, if any Guard knew that Fran and Dean were besties then surely they would be straight there?

Sure, Fran could have got straight to the point in case he got caught, but I still think it could have been done better.

CountyHurler

Just watching the repeat on the plus one... When Nidge knocks on the windows, it's a bit stupid the way Scotty opens the Venetian blinds (making sure that Nadine was visible in the background)... Surely Nadine would have looked out through the blinds while Scotty ran off to hide under the bed...

Jumboman

DynamiteC101 wrote: »

Don't want to be too harsh on the episode as I was on the edge of my seat, and there was some terrific acting...

BUT the Fran 'escape' was done pretty poorly and put a bad mark on the episode, to be fair. Would they not have had someone with a bit more presence to keep an eye on Fran, knowing the monster that he is?

And why was there no guards up at his caravan site? Sure, he hides out there and that's the purpose of it - anonymity/secrecy. But still, a reckless criminal on the loose after beating up a Guard, and he had time to roam around to Deano's gaff etc? Just doesn't add up.

I think they copied the Fran escape scene from the movie "Escape from Alcatraz" were your man cuts off his fingers to get out of the prison.

HeidiHeidi

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

They did communicate this for the second attempt. Yer man fecked up.

That wasn't a Garda, it was a prison officer.

All the more reason to be that extra bit vigilant. He's in prison for a reason Mr Officer dude

ColeTrain

Sardonicat wrote: »

Eh, he is "mad bastard" Fran. He acts like a mad bastard. Cos he's a mad bastard.

He might be a mad bastard but it's still tough to believe. The cops have a hard on for surveillance but don't know where Fran's place is? They might have wanted to check there..

Still, that's not a huge issue. I like the show in general, just didn't think this weeks was great.

DG7

irishfeen wrote: »

No fixed Abode

It possible to said no fixed abode.

I'm finding it hard to believe that the Gardaí would not find out where he lives.

They've had surveillance on Fran before. Nidge/Patrick/Deano/Tommy and others have all been under surveillance and have all been up to Fran's place previously.

I think there's a fair chance they would know the place

somesoldiers

Doesn't hash come in 9 oz bars rather than heroin. The lawyer said Elmo was caught with 4 nine oz bars but it was clearly heroin, well from my limited drug knowledge anyhow

yipeeeee

Definitely try to squeeze too much into six episodes.

There is too much going on which takes away from each story and makes it all a bit of a mess.

Shane St.

Good episode.

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Thought it was a good episode, Frans escape was a bit too easy but still, it's good viewing cos Fran is great craic altogether

Inmyownworld

Does Fran still have his house where Linda was killed? i remember him saying he couldnt go back and live there after that.

And even when he did live in that house he had his caravan for the dog fights etc. So it's possible that the Guards didn't know about it.

jd

rob316 wrote: »

Funny you say that was just chatting to a friend who works in a hospital. She said when a prisoners comes in two would bring him in but one would stay. He would never be left out of cuffs though.

Jaysus, I was in the Mater OP dept a year or so ago and this guy came in handcuffed with 3 POs. He must have been a bad f!cker. Worse than Fran.

ibarelycare

Where are siobhan's parents??

ricero

I think this season will end with nearly all the lads in prison and we will get another series set mostly on the inside. I'm sure I heard Stuart Carolan say he wanted to film a series in and around prison gangland life.

dashdoll

troched wrote: »

Great episode, lots of plot developments. Bit worried though that the finale might be another anti-climax, like last year. Cos there were so many dangling plot threads then, too.

From the preview,

looks like Terrence decided Janet was the rat and was telling a shocked Nidge that his inside man had killed her. Gives added significance to Nidge using Janet's phone a couple of episodes back. Scene between Moynihan and Nidge looks interesting though, no idea what could lead to that scene.

Seriously? Haven't seen next weeks trailer was was watching on Player??

Cienciano

somesoldiers wrote: »

Doesn't hash come in 9 oz bars rather than heroin. The lawyer said Elmo was caught with 4 nice oz bars but it was clearly heroin, well from my limited drug knowledge anyhow

I thought the same. Is heroin not just measured in weight, presumably 1KG bags?

Blay

Blay wrote: »

His address? :pac:

'Caravan
The field
Ireland'

All day breakfast just down the road

DerekDGoldfish

ricero wrote: »

I think this season will end with all nearly the lads in prison and we will get another series set mostly on the inside. I'm sure I heard Stuart Carolan say he wanted to film a series in and around prison gangland life.

Orange is the New Black Irish Style, episodes about nidge making deals to get his hand on good shampoo.

dulux99

A hungry pit bull surely would have acknowledged Siobhans existence, no?

Sardonicat

ibarelycare wrote: »

Where are siobhan's parents??

Have often wondered this. Nidge is her Uncle so where is his sibling that would be /Siobhan's mum or dad?

ibarelycare

ibarelycare wrote: »

Where are siobhan's parents??

Big Joe from Season 1 is her father. He was Nidges best man at his wedding and also appeared at Robbies funeral before Siobhan started 'bluetoothing' Tommy

Grandeeod

irishfeen wrote: »

I don't think RTÉ has the money to finance more episodes - they are not HBO, BBC or AMC ... they are a very small broadcaster.

The usual argument and usual insular excuse. They expend money on a lot of tripe and when it is clearly obvious that they have a potential success story on their hands, they refuse to add more money to it even if its at the expense of something else. Once again RTE come up short. I'd happily see the IFB budget get lamped by another 2 million if it meant that this show could develop more. Too late now. Its a local success story that will never go any further. Shame.

yipeeeee

Nidge was summonsed to Spain by Terence, that's where he will end up.

sligojoek

DG7 wrote: »

They would have hi address from the arrests/court service/prison service.

If the cops knew about that place they'd have been all over it after catching him with the gun. I know people who've been caught with tiny amounts of smoke in their cars and had the DS round the next morning with a warrant and sniffer dogs.

DazMarz

Didn't Fran have a nice gaf somewhere in Dublin? But he just couldn't live there any more after what happened to Linda. That's probably where he "lives" officially.

ibarelycare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Big Joe from Season 1 is her father. He was Nidges best man at his wedding and also appeared at Robbies funeral before Siobhan started 'bluetoothing' Tommy

Yeah I remember him being at robbie's funeral but I wasn't sure if we'd heard anything about them since. A bit strange. Presume Big Joe's not a criminal then?

DynamiteC101

Have a feeling that the finale might be a cop out.

Not trying to be negative, but as people have pointed out, there is a lot of story line going on. When they said ''double bill next Sunday'', I thought it might have been a 2 hour episode!

Sardonicat

DerekDGoldfish wrote: »

Orange is the New Black Irish Style, episodes about nidge making deals to get his hand on good shampoo.

Pour qoi?

Birneybau

Lisha wrote: »

One thing they annoys me is whenever Moynihan is in his car waiting for an informer to join him, he spots them walking towards him, gets out of car and helps them in to car. Ffsstay in car and let them sit in without broadcasting it to all watching who is meeting who.

I thought the exact same thing!

somesoldiers

Cienciano wrote: »

I thought the same. Is heroin not just measured in weight, presumably 1KG bags?

Reckon they ballsed it up, a bar of hash coz it's solid, sure heroin is powder- how could u you have a bar of it?

somesoldiers

somesoldiers wrote: »

Doesn't hash come in 9 oz bars rather than heroin. The lawyer said Elmo was caught with 4 nine oz bars but it was clearly heroin, well from my limited drug knowledge anyhow

Blue eyes, Blue hat = Gear, Brown Eyes, Red Hat = Yokes.....Wait no was it the other way round?

MistyCheese

Regarding this part of your spoiler

troched wrote: »

was telling a shocked Nidge that his inside man had killed her.

I actually thought it sounded more like

Terry Balls was telling Nidge to do Janet in himself. IDK, it just seemed like like a 'there's something you have to do' thing than a 'heads up, we've done something you might not like' thing.

Grandeeod wrote: »

Lacks a budget at this stage. Its all good, but to lamp up the pace and maintain a cohesive storyline, it needs more episodes per series. RTE discover a gem, but insist on paying the union crew and usual suspects a fortune rather than fund the most positively talked about TV show they've ever had!

I agree, it feels like things are just getting going and then it's over.

Or, as our friends at South Park would say...

Half the scenes in this show is people driving around in cars

Sardonicat

Deleted User wrote: »

Blue eyes, Blue hat = Gear, Brown Eyes, Red Hat = Yokes.....Wait no was it the other way round?

Other way around.

MJ23

"Ardin"

Omackeral

Blay wrote: »

Obama is black

:pac:

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'd say Frans place is unknown to the Gardaí, can't exactly see if being on the property register.

What are you talking about sure Fran pays tax? :P