Evelyn Cusacks forecast tonight

Red Nissan

She may have the degrees, she may studied meteorology, she may be passionate about weather but she's a prize moan and I for one will turn her off on anything she ever appears on again.

Lumi

Red Nissan wrote: »

she's a prize moan and I for one will turn her off on anything she ever appears on again.

Mod Note
Unfortunately this thread has descended into an Evelyn Cusack bashing exercise
Reopening it but keep the discussion civil, no personal attacks and comments on her forecast content only please
Thanks

aboyro

ah lads who locked the evelyn thread. my leg started hurting me about 10 mins before the forecast!!!!!!

Lapin

Evelyn is off again.

"Animals can't predict the weather".

Hooter23

That ones at it again after the 9 news AnIMALs ANd PLANTS cant predict the weather nor the moon or sumthn she said :pac: ok we get it for the millionth time ffs:)

aboyro

hurrah, we're back in business

Jimmy444

She must read Boards because she corrected the spelling of Lorenz this time as well :P

jd

Had a go at Ken Ring too (moon cycles "and earthquakes for that matter")

gozunda

I reckon its a bit of tounge in cheek at this point ..It's likley RTE get deluged asking regularly about these issues.

The alternative berry reading / moon phase / flying birds nightly forecast could be a real ratings puller!

Onthe3rdDay

gozunda wrote: »

I reckon its a bit of tounge in cheek at this point ..It's likley RTE get deluged asking regularly about these issues.

The alternative berry reading / moon phase / flying birds nightly forecast could be a real ratings puller!

It's not coming across as tongue in cheek. As Evelyn and ME seem to read boards a word of advice. Stick to the forecasts and leave the lectures to one side. Do a proper show if you want to get your point across. You're on the verge of coming across as a bully. You keep repeating the same facts over and over again and they seem to be aimed at one individual who doesn't have the same platform as you.

No one is going to say anything if you get a forecast wrong and he gets it right. It can be explained away by logic. However, if you keep going on about it, the very people you're trying to convince will go the other way. This is nothing to do with science, it's to do with PR, Human behaviour and that thing that a lot of Irish people do, backing the small guy against the big organisation (even if he's wrong!)

gozunda

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

It's not coming across as tongue in cheek. As Evelyn and ME seem to read boards a word of advice. Stick to the forecasts and leave the lectures to one side. Do a proper show if you want to get your point across. You're on the verge of coming across as a bully. You keep repeating the same facts over and over again and they seem to be aimed at one individual who doesn't have the same platform as you

No one is going to say anything if you get a forecast wrong and he gets it right. It can be explained away by logic. However, if you keep going on about it, the very people you're trying to convince will go the other way. This is nothing to do with science, it's to do with PR, Human behaviour and that thing that a lot of Irish people do, backing the small guy against the big organisation (even if he's wrong!)

Whoa there I am not Evelyn! and last nights quotient did come across as Humouros - and I reckon the 'lecture' is in response to various communications from proponents of the berry / flying bird theories - I believe this was implied during the forecast last night. Anyway does it really matter. Take it for what it is - the scientific view, many people do not understand that the current model do no favour long range forecasting a la postman etc. so yes it probably does need explaining and not to 'just one person' every now and then.

Neeson

We live in Ireland. People always talk about the weather. I'm sure most know all that animal and plant talk is nonsense but no harm in talking about it. At this stage I'd start talking in that way just to piss that Evelyn woman off. She comes across as an old whinger on the TV.

Red Nissan

Jimmy444 wrote: »

She must read Boards because she corrected the spelling of Lorenz this time as well :P

Either that or a Met Official actively posts on Boards, which is cool too, as she verbatimly quoted boards on a few links I followed to see, as provided in this discussion, so some of her speech was already scripted and released here before she broadcast it, or she ~ or her script writers read it an put it in the following evening's weather dogma section.

We are seemingly inseparably linked.

Ha ha! I suspect the thread was unlocked because their material was drying up for up coming forecast banters bits. :D:D:D:D

Larbre34

Evelyn Cusack is Su Campu

Red Nissan

Neeson wrote: »

We live in Ireland. People always talk about the weather. I'm sure most know all that animal and plant talk is nonsense .

It's not nonsense, it's not scientific, dependable, reliable or repeatable, but it can indicate the shortness of a Spring as a well studied example. We live in a world where we [humans] are climate immune, major weather events aside, even those, some claim can be controlled somewhat.

Not so our wildlife, flora and fauna, they need to have a mechanism to react to any given season, their choice will dictate their success. As a species, any particular species of plant or animal and indeed humans have died out because they did not react to the changing weather and climate.

It's not just instinct, though there is plenty of evidence that instinct alone can drive decisions like migrating in a rain storm and being washed away and that happens, but overall the flora and fauna have survived because they understand a mechanism that is individual if not even unique annually.

Squiggle

Gerry Murphy gave a little lecture last week too on the meaning of high and low pressure with a graphic to illustrate - never saw him do anything like that before. It's usually " Hello there and a very good evening to you " and off we go :pac:. The thing is effective presenting of any complex matter to the general masses should be characterised by simplicity. Most people just want to know whether it's going to be wet/dry, hot/ cold etc and couldn't give a fook about isobars or anticyclones etc. Bring back Gerry the winker and The Eagle.

Storm 10

Dont laugh at this one , about a week before Ireland got hit by hurricane Debbie a large number of sea birds came in to Salthill, I was down looking at them with my Dad as we had never seen birds like them before, there was a fisherman there also who told us the birds were called "Mother Careys Chickens" also known as Storm Petrals, he said they would only come into shore if there was a bad storm on the way, that time we had very little knowledge of the weather and a few days later Debbie struck and caused havoc, so maybe there is a lot in what the anilmals and birds know about the weather.

Stormy petrels. Mother Carey is Mater Cara. The French call these birds oiseaux de Notre Dame or aves Sanct&aeigh; Mariae. Chickens are the young of any fowl, or any small bird.
“They are called the `sailor's' friends, come to warn them of an approaching storm; and it is most unlucky to kill them. The legend is that each bird contains the soul of a dead seaman.”

Read more: Mother Carey's Chickens | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/mother-careys-chickens.html#ixzz2mJnAmK6B

Neddyusa

Exactly Red Nissan - its not meteorology but it is evolutionary genetics!

Its only logical to a biologist that natural selection over millenia would result in flora and fauna that are "better prepared" to cope with upcoming weather that can some-how be "anticipated".

So while animals and plants may be no use to a meteorologist I think Evelyn is straying a bit too much from her own area of expertise!

Red Nissan wrote: »

It's not nonsense, it's not scientific, dependable, reliable or repeatable, but it can indicate the shortness of a Spring as a well studied example. We live in a world where we [humans] are climate immune, major weather events aside, even those, some claim can be controlled somewhat.

Not so our wildlife, flora and fauna, they need to have a mechanism to react to any given season, their choice will dictate their success. As a species, any particular species of plant or animal and indeed humans have died out because they did not react to the changing weather and climate.

It's not just instinct, though there is plenty of evidence that instinct alone can drive decisions like migrating in a rain storm and being washed away and that happens, but overall the flora and fauna have survived because they understand a mechanism that is individual if not even unique annually.

Onthe3rdDay

gozunda wrote: »

Whoa there I am not Evelyn! and last nights quotient did come across as Humouros - and I reckon the 'lecture' is in response to various communications from proponents of the berry / flying bird theories - I believe this was implied during the forecast last night. Anyway does it really matter. Take it for what it is - the scientific view, many people do not understand that the current model do no favour long range forecasting a la postman etc. so yes it probably does need explaining and not to 'just one person' every now and then.

I never said you were Evelyn! Yes the lecture was in response to the various stories going around about berries and such like, but those stories go around every year. It fills newspaper space. Explaining them once or twice might be acceptable if done correctly but she's on about it all the time at this stage.

It comes across like an old priest in the catholic church saying we will all go to hell if we even listen to what someone else is saying. There is only one true way!!!

I want to know about the weather, the 30 to 40 seconds she uses for this could be used for a look at weather in Britain or North America where lots of us have dealings.

The way that these facts have been presented have had a nasty tinge to them. On top of that it's fairly unprofessional presentation wise. That's why I keep going on about doing a proper programme that's properly scripted.

I have my suspicions who Evelyn is by a way a certain board member uses phrases and words. However, it's not my right to point out who that is. Guess what? I could be wrong:D

DellyBelly

Storm 10 wrote: »

Dont laugh at this one , about a week before Ireland got hit by hurricane Debbie a large number of sea birds came in to Salthill, I was down looking at them with my Dad as we had never seen birds like them before, there was a fisherman there also who told us the birds were called "Mother Careys Chickens" also known as Storm Petrals, he said they would only come into shore if there was a bad storm on the way, that time we had very little knowledge of the weather and a few days later Debbie struck and caused havoc, so maybe there is a lot in what the anilmals and birds know about the weather.

Read more: Mother Carey's Chickens | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/mother-careys-chickens.html#ixzz2mJnAmK6B

That's interesting because I remember before we had a really bad storm from the north that there were penguins in the quay close to where I live in Donegal a few days before the storm hit. SO to call predicting nature via nature is disingenuous.

Red Nissan

DellyBelly wrote: »

That's interesting because I remember before we had a really bad storm from the north that there were penguins in the quay close to where I live in Donegal a few days before the storm hit. SO to call predicting nature via nature is disingenuous.

That's truly amazing, it must have been a world catastrophe to force Penguins so far north, glad I slept through that one.

gothwalk

DellyBelly wrote: »

That's interesting because I remember before we had a really bad storm from the north that there were penguins in the quay close to where I live in Donegal a few days before the storm hit. SO to call predicting nature via nature is disingenuous.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Actually, I'd really like to see pictures of wild penguins in Donegal. For a start, that cousin of mine who said when I was eight that I couldn't have a pet penguin cos they only lived in Antarctica is going to be getting an eye full.

Storm 10

DellyBelly wrote: »

That's interesting because I remember before we had a really bad storm from the north that there were penguins in the quay close to where I live in Donegal a few days before the storm hit. SO to call predicting nature via nature is disingenuous.

They were more than likely the same bird that came into Galway, they are black and white, they spend their life at sea but will come to land to breed only, the ones I saw were quite tame and you could walk among them there were hundreds of them and they were an attraction at the beach while they were there. I always remember the man that told us what they were said there has to be a big storm coming for those birds to come ashore, at that time there was no mention of any hurricane as they were at least a week in before it hit.


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=STORM+PETRAL+PHOTO&id=E07E879B96FE0FFF2596C8166287FFDB89A7FEF1&FORM=IQFRBA

talkabout

I have to say I’m surprised at the level of support for this alternative method. As someone who lives and works in Donegal I’m constantly surprised at the amount of people who discuss and to some extends rely on the “postman”. When I express my own view that it is nonsense I usually get the response “ah there must be something to it”
My own view is that unless it is proven with proper scientific research it is basically old wives tales. I’ve seen nothing, no reliable evidence to suggest animals/ plants etc are not just reacting to their environment at that moment in time.

DOCARCH

DellyBelly wrote: »

That's interesting because I remember before we had a really bad storm from the north that there were penguins in the quay close to where I live in Donegal a few days before the storm hit. SO to call predicting nature via nature is disingenuous.

Penguins! :eek: Must have been some storm...from the south?

Red Nissan

DOCARCH wrote: »

Penguins! :eek: Must have been some storm...from the south?

Yes indeed, however, it also clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding and yet a profound judgment call has been presented based clearly on these misunderstandings.

I'm sure this poster is not alone, and IMO, some of Evelyn's comments have been taken as gospel from a pulpit by a very susceptible audience.

I'm sure though that the Penguins had escaped from a local "Sea World" attraction and we were in error in our judgment call.

Lumi

Enough with the penguins, polar bears etc. Back on topic please

wretcheddomain

Here's Cusack's attack from yesterday in case anyone missed it:

Red Nissan

I am NOT going to watch that, thanks for posting, but Evelyn is persona non grata for me. She might as well be Evelyn Ring

Red Nissan

Lumi wrote: »

Enough with the penguins, polar bears etc. Back on topic please

I think it is about this, and I think Lumi moderation is turning sour. How does one report inappropriate moderation.

Of course if we take the thread title, then, yes, but this has evolved beyond Evelyn's last night ~ and maybe you were right to have closed it when you did.

It was hot then, it's certainly very hot now.

Evelyn discussed animals on a weather forecast and you, Lumi, ban its discussion? It IS on topic, TBH.