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GAA Club World Cup

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  • 16-11-2013 11:24am
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    fpllad
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    With the emergence of London GAA this season in the GAA Football Championships here, I would like to know, why not have a GAA Club World Cup.
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    Local_Chap
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    Costs.


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    DunedinOg
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    Local_Chap wrote: »
    Costs.

    Cost and lack of uniformity in playing standards. London senior football is a level above the rest of Britain and Britain is generally ahead of Europe. America and Oz are probably very strong now but too far away I'd imagine. It's something to aspire too but it isn't realistic at the moment.


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    Boom__Boom
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    fpllad wrote: »
    With the emergence of London GAA this season in the GAA Football Championships here, I would like to know, why not have a GAA Club World Cup.

    UK clubs definitely take part in the senior and intermediate club football championships as Dr Crokes and Spa from Killarney both played British opposition in the last few years.

    Crokes played Tir Chonaill Gaels last year and Spa played I think Herfordshire.

    Not sure whether UK clubs take part in the junior club football championship.

    I presume it's a similar situation for the strange game with sticks.

    I'd say logistics would be the major issue towards increasing this further down the line.


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    fpllad
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    Just try it out and see how it goes, could end up like the FIFA World Cup.

    Maybe just eight teams, not 32 to start off. Could be good!


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    Big Ears
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    fpllad wrote: »
    Just try it out and see how it goes, could end up like the FIFA World Cup.

    Maybe just eight teams, not 32 to start off. Could be good!

    Or more likely the FIFA club World club, with it being more of a distraction for the better teams and no one really caring.

    Who would fund such a venture ?


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    Quixoticelixer
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    fpllad wrote: »
    Just try it out and see how it goes, could end up like the FIFA World Cup.

    Maybe just eight teams, not 32 to start off. Could be good!

    How exactly??


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    fpllad
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    Two groups of four, semi-final and final. Invitational


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    Quixoticelixer
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    fpllad wrote: »
    Two groups of four, semi-final and final. Invitational

    Seems like the type of thing the GAA might do as a one off event sometime, would be a bit of a logistical nightmare though, which is why it would be a one off, would have to be run off fairly quickly as well given the whole amateur thing, chances of a panel of players getting a prolonged spell off work quite slim!

    You'd nearly need it to be a blitz run off over a weekend. Nice idea but not practical.


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    fpllad
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    Well the GAA isn't really amateur, is it....


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    Quixoticelixer
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    fpllad wrote: »
    Well the GAA isn't really amateur, is it....
    That's a whole other issue :P

    Well what I was getting at there was that you're talking about a panel of players from say Boston (plenty of immigrants there) to all manage to get a few days off work at the same time to fly out somewhere at great expense at the same time as another group of teams who have to do likewise.

    Logistically acute and quite costly. Though maybe Etihad Airways could fly the panels to a tournament in Abu Dhabi or something, put their sponsorship to good use!


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    fpllad
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    Exactly, this year, "The Gathering" year would have been a great time to do it.

    Mini Tournament out in Abu Dhabi say in Spetember/October...


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    Big Ears
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    I think flying people of out of Ireland would be the opposite of what 'the Gathering' was trying to achieve.


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    CrabRevolution
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    This year they've started to branch out into the international scene a bit more, the European senior club champions played in the Leinster Junior Club championship.

    Not sure what the point of world club cup would be, whoever represents Ireland would hammer the utter bejeezus out of any challengers.


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    fpllad
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    I mean to Ireland


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    Mal-Adjusted
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    Something similar was done this year in Galway. they had clubs from all over the world playing a tournament over a few weekends.
    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    Not sure what the point of world club cup would be, whoever represents Ireland would hammer the utter bejeezus out of any challengers.

    I think that there probably shouldn't be any Irish representation, similar to no australian team in the aussie rules world cup. Or like the AFL internationals, where they only pick 3rd or 4th string squads (who hammer the crap out of their opponents anyway)


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    ronjo
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    fpllad wrote: »
    Exactly, this year, "The Gathering" year would have been a great time to do it.

    Mini Tournament out in Abu Dhabi say in Spetember/October...

    they have such a tournament in Athlone a few weeks ago
    Well it was only European sides.


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    munchkin_utd
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    there was a world cup type of event back in 2002 in football.

    just like the hurling event this year, it cost a fortune to stage and its cash that arguably is better invested in coaching, referee training etc on the ground abroad that will leave a longer term benefit than having a clatter of emmigrants coming back to play ball for a long weekend.

    The event in Athlone is somewhat different as the players in Europe pay their accomodation and majority of their travel costs and getting to Ireland with Ryanair (paid in part or full by the player) is not to be compared with flying half ways round the globe from Australia or New Zealand and landing the bill with the GAA.


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    rebel girl 15
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    fpllad wrote: »
    With the emergence of London GAA this season in the GAA Football Championships here, I would like to know, why not have a GAA Club World Cup.

    Cost is a huge factor - I know a few of the London players, and they were training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and an all day session on a Saturday to reach that level. The commitment required to reach that skill level would be a huge turnoff for Europeans who play the game for fun, and learning a new sport.

    London football is much stronger than the rest of the country, both in men's a women's as a county.
    ronjo wrote: »
    they have such a tournament in Athlone a few weeks ago
    Well it was only European sides.

    There was a London team and a rest of Britain team that entered that, and I'm 100% sure there was some sort of politics attached to it all.

    If you were to do such a World Cup, it would probably have to be Europe ex Britain plus the rest of the world. Might be easier to do a European cup, Asian Cup, Australiasia cup and Americas cup with the four winners coming together kind of like the Confederations Cup


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    bawn79
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    I was thinking of the idea of an emigrant World Cup.

    Bring back the best players from the main emigrant countries (England, Scotland, Wales, Australia, Canada, USA, New Zealand, Middle East) for a tournament at Christmas. Two groups with maybe the winners going through. Each county would submit a list of players that are of county standard that have emigrated and a manager designated for each country would pick the panel.

    You would probably need an indoor venue (which I know doesn't exist) to have it in Ireland. I think the GAA should be looking at roofing a stadium in Ireland somewhere in the middle of the country or in Dublin (Parnell Park maybe?) that could be used for running off games from October on but that is another story.

    I suppose it all depends on costs and the quality of the play. You could either bring back 4 teams or 8 teams. 20 players per panel x 4 is 80 players. 8 teams - 160 players. If it was 4 teams then off the top of my head (UK, Australia/ New Zealand, USA/ Canada & Rest of the World).


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    Pete_Cavan
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    Ah here, this thread has gone past ridiculous at this stage, the humane thing to do would be to put it out is its misery.


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    munchkin_utd
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    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Ah here, this thread has gone past ridiculous at this stage, the humane thing to do would be to put it out is its misery.
    Some of the pie in the sky stuff is off the wall, but the concept doesn't seem to be too far from what's planned.
    This from Qatar GAA club's upcoming events.
    6-7th March 2015 - World GAA Games in Abu Dhabi
    http://www.qatargaa.com/#!upcoming-events/cq4e
    It's also in the Dubai club list of events.


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