Complete Medal Haul

Ascii

I seen the new Gooch ad promoting the Club Championship where he states that "its the only medal he is missing", and it got me thinking. Having a discussion with a few lads in the boozer yesterday we started to rack our brains about who (if any) footballer have the complete haul and by this I mean

1. Hogan Cup
2. Sigerson
3. All Ireland minor
4. All Ireland u-21
5. All Ireland Senior
6. National League
7. All Ireland club

AFAIK Gooch has no minor or U-21 so he well off. Is M Donnellan one of the leading contenders along with some of the other Hogan cup winners from Jarlaths in 94? For me the All Ireland club will be the troublesome one? Crossmaglen have been ultra successful in club football in recent years but Armagh have struggled at All Ireland stage with senior/minor and U-21. They did have some success in late 90's early 2000's but no playeys seemed to be common to all teams.

Lets see where this gets to.

zetecescort

Mike Frank Russell has them all afaik

bruschi

Tomas Meehan from Galway would have a few of them too I'd say, there was a good scattering of a Jarlaths team in 94 who were on the Galway team in 98 and won club AI too.

MFR was the first one I thought of too though, and I'm nearly sure he definitley has them all.

Boom__Boom

zetecescort wrote: »

Mike Frank Russell has them all afaik

Link to what Mike Frank has won

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82935840&postcount=18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Frank_Russell

Game over man, game over.

homerjay2005

zetecescort wrote: »

Mike Frank Russell has them all afaik

before i even opened the thread, i knew this man would be the answer. his medal haul is incredible.....around 1994 to 1997, his achievements were simply sensational, he practically won everything in those 3 years. in 95, the year after winning all ireland minor he won the senior, u21 and minor county championship, ending up in munster and all ireland senior titles as well as winning the county league division 1 before going on to win all ireland u-21, sigerson, all ireland senior all in the next 12-15 months.

i wonder does anybody else come close to him?

shockframe

homerjay2005 wrote: »

before i even opened the thread, i knew this man would be the answer. his medal haul is incredible.....around 1994 to 1997, his achievements were simply sensational, he practically won everything in those 3 years. in 95, the year after winning all ireland minor he won the senior, u21 and minor county championship, ending up in munster and all ireland senior titles as well as winning the county league division 1 before going on to win all ireland u-21, sigerson, all ireland senior all in the next 12-15 months.

i wonder does anybody else come close to him?

James 'Cha' Fitzpatrick is the closest I reckon.Has won nearly everything in hurling except for the fitzgibbon cup.

aidan24326

Ascii wrote: »

I seen the new Gooch ad promoting the Club Championship where he states that "its the only medal he is missing", and it got me thinking. Having a discussion with a few lads in the boozer yesterday we started to rack our brains about who (if any) footballer have the complete haul and by this I mean

1. Hogan Cup
2. Sigerson
3. All Ireland minor
4. All Ireland u-21
5. All Ireland Senior
6. National League
7. All Ireland club

AFAIK Gooch has no minor or U-21 so he well off. Is M Donnellan one of the leading contenders along with some of the other Hogan cup winners from Jarlaths in 94? For me the All Ireland club will be the troublesome one? Crossmaglen have been ultra successful in club football in recent years but Armagh have struggled at All Ireland stage with senior/minor and U-21. They did have some success in late 90's early 2000's but no playeys seemed to be common to all teams.

Lets see where this gets to.

Donnellan won Hogan Cup, Sigerson, All-Ireland Senior and All-Ireland Club, and was beaten in an All-Ireland minor final (94) and 2 National League finals. So he wasn't a million miles away.

But strange how Galway did so poorly in U-21 at that time considering the players that were there at that time. Donnellan, Joyce, Savage, Divilly, Paul Clancy, Richie Fahy, Declan and Tomas Meehan, Shay Walsh. All of them won All-Ireland senior medals.

zetecescort

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Link to what Mike Frank has won

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82935840&postcount=18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Frank_Russell

Game over man, game over.

Just missing a Railway Cup winners medal. Some going alright

aidan24326

Mike Frank was a great forward in his time. But he was fortunate to play alongside some top class players too. Michael Donnellan, Padraig Joyce, Jimmy McGuinness and Mark Reilly at ITT. Maurice Fitz, Moynihan, Dara O'Cinneide and Darragh O'Se with Kerry. Liam and Mike Hasset with Laune Rangers. Though Mike Frank himself played a key role in all of those teams. A very good two-footed forward who often made point scoring look stupidly easy.

MfMan

Ascii wrote: »

I seen the new Gooch ad promoting the Club Championship where he states that "its the only medal he is missing", and it got me thinking. Having a discussion with a few lads in the boozer yesterday we started to rack our brains about who (if any) footballer have the complete haul and by this I mean

1. Hogan Cup
2. Sigerson
3. All Ireland minor
4. All Ireland u-21
5. All Ireland Senior
6. National League
7. All Ireland club

AFAIK Gooch has no minor or U-21 so he well off. Is M Donnellan one of the leading contenders along with some of the other Hogan cup winners from Jarlaths in 94? For me the All Ireland club will be the troublesome one? Crossmaglen have been ultra successful in club football in recent years but Armagh have struggled at All Ireland stage with senior/minor and U-21. They did have some success in late 90's early 2000's but no playeys seemed to be common to all teams.

Lets see where this gets to.

Gooch is missing a good few medals I'd say; Minor and U-21 for a start.

RGS

Jimmy Barry Murphys collection is highly impressive.

All ireland hurling medals in Minor 1971, u/21 in 1973, senior in 1976, 77, 79, 84 and 86

All ireland football medals in Minor 1972, Senior 1973

All Ireland club football 1979 & 1981

All Ireland club hurling 1974, 1978

Railway Cup winner in both hurling and football.

Excluding college and third level the only medal missing is an U/21 football.

Played in both club finals in 1981 winning the football and losing the hurling to The Fenians from Kilkenny.

grazeaway

RGS wrote: »

Jimmy Barry Murphys collection is highly impressive.

All ireland hurling medals in Minor 1971, u/21 in 1973, senior in 1976, 77, 79, 84 and 86

All ireland football medals in Minor 1972, Senior 1973

All Ireland club football 1979 & 1981

All Ireland club hurling 1974, 1978

Railway Cup winner in both hurling and football.

Excluding college and third level the only medal missing is an U/21 football.

Played in both club finals in 1981 winning the football and losing the hurling to The Fenians from Kilkenny.

Brian Murphy of nemo rangers has a very impressive medal haul. I think he is the only person to have provincial and all Ireland's in both codes at all age groups, plus club medals galore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Murphy_(Gaelic_games)#Honours

mickmackey1

homerjay2005 wrote: »

his medal haul is incredible....in 95, the year after winning all ireland minor

and Kerry haven't won the minor since then, even more incredible :cool:

homerjay2005

mickmackey1 wrote: »

and Kerry haven't won the minor since then, even more incredible :cool:

well ya, there is 2 ways to look at it - yes of course its no title in 19 years, BUT....

the Kerry Minor team are never far away from being in the top 2 or 3 teams in the country and its been like that almost every year since 1994 i.e.- the team that knocks Kerry out of the All Ireland, normally either wins it or gets beat in the final.

lost finals in 96, 2004 and again in 2006 i think it was and theres another 6 or 7 years where we lost to the winners, along with 4 or 5 years losing to the beaten finalists. i think Cork in 99 is an exception and im sure theres 1 or 2 more, but overall Kerry have been really consistent at Minor level even without winning anything. other counties like Laois, Roscommon, even Galway, Mayo & Tyrone (who are much more consistent now) have had bursts every now and then with one good team as opposed to being consistently pushing for semi and final places like Kerry are.

mickmackey1

I get your point but still... and the dubs winning only once since 1984 is probly even more baffling

Ascii

shockframe wrote: »

James 'Cha' Fitzpatrick is the closest I reckon.Has won nearly everything in hurling except for the fitzgibbon cup.

Still time for him to go back as a mature student

randd1

Ascii wrote: »

I seen the new Gooch ad promoting the Club Championship where he states that "its the only medal he is missing", and it got me thinking. Having a discussion with a few lads in the boozer yesterday we started to rack our brains about who (if any) footballer have the complete haul and by this I mean

1. Hogan Cup
2. Sigerson
3. All Ireland minor
4. All Ireland u-21
5. All Ireland Senior
6. National League
7. All Ireland club

I know Michael Fennelly and Cha Fitzpatrick of Kilkenny have:

- All-Ireland Colleges Title (Croke Cup)
- All-Ireland Minor
- All-Ireland U21
- All-Ireland Senior
- National League
- All-Ireland Club

I don't know if either has a Fitzgibbon title to their name, but if they do I'd be sure they're the only ones that have the full set of national medals.

Fennelly is going back to college in Limerick so he has a chance to get the full set if he doesn't have it already.

megadodge

I'm surprised we've got this far without any mention of Anthony Davis of Cork.
I don't think he won the Hogan Cup, but he has all the rest, plus a Junior All-Ireland.

The Bogman

On the hurling side of things, first name in my head was Brian Whelahan. He doesn't have a Fitz medal and I was surprised to see he doesn't have an U-21 either. Lost 3 U-21 finals against three different teams. He has won all others on multiple occasions and has a nice few individual awards as well!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Whelehan
Missing of the list of honours at the bottom is the All Ireland colleges he won in St Brendans community school.

premierstone

Aidan Ryan Borrisleigh has all the intercounty ones and a club AI no idea about the Croke Cup or Fitzgibbon.

Connorzee

Brian Murphy of Nemo and JBM... dual medals. Game over.

Santa Cruz

mickmackey1 wrote: »

and Kerry haven't won the minor since then, even more incredible :cool:

Hard to work out, One U21 in last 15 years. Nearly 20 years since a minor.
And a good few Seniors in those years. I suppose a good competitive club scene may help. The semi final against Dublin this year still threw up a team that would beat most in the country.

premierstone

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Hard to work out, One U21 in last 15 years. Nearly 20 years since a minor.
And a good few Seniors in those years. I suppose a good competitive club scene may help. The semi final against Dublin this year still threw up a team that would beat most in the country.

With regard to the minor its perfectly obvious that Kerry intentionally choose the 15 players they feel have the best chance of progressing to Senior rather than the 15 most suitbbale to Minor i.e. the 15 biggest players, its an approach that has lead to a famine of sorts at minor but you can't argue with the success rate at senior.

Boom__Boom

premierstone wrote: »

With regard to the minor its perfectly obvious that Kerry intentionally choose the 15 players they feel have the best chance of progressing to Senior rather than the 15 most suitbbale to Minor i.e. the 15 biggest players, its an approach that has lead to a famine of sorts at minor but you can't argue with the success rate at senior.

Also while the Kerry minors haven't won the All-Ireland in a while, in that time the minor team has been fairly competitive the vast majority of those years with a decent enough record of getting to finals/semi-finals/losing to the eventual winners.

premierstone

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Also while the Kerry minors haven't won the All-Ireland in a while, in that time the minor team has been fairly competitive the vast majority of those years with a decent enough record of getting to finals/semi-finals/losing to the eventual winners.

Alot of that though is also down to the fact that with the system in place there's only themselves Cork and Tipp competing for two AI QF places every year, the rest are miles behind, although I believe Clare have a good team this year, you heard it here first

thinkstoomuch1

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Also while the Kerry minors haven't won the All-Ireland in a while, in that time the minor team has been fairly competitive the vast majority of those years with a decent enough record of getting to finals/semi-finals/losing to the eventual winners.

Kerry minors are going to buck this trend this year or next do,they will win the all ireland with Jack in charge.Part of their problem was they neglected the underage set up.Mickey Ned ,a great football man,wasnt great as minor manager.


I was talking to a kerry minor during the week,and he spoke glowingly of Jack,had two sessions so far,and the respect he holds is second to none.Jack will bring discipline and organistion and a real belief they can win.Every team,schools,u21 etc,he has won.

Tippeary wont be a strong this year,cork over the replay last year have home advantage but their set up will be too shrewd compared to our set up.
I expect kerry to win munster ,and to get to at least a semi final next year.
The new rules will suit,the way jack,sets hes team up,fast open football.Tyrone ,cynical style wont be as potent.


Kerry have the talent.Jack has brought a new excitement to minor football in Kerry.

In fact ,at u21 and with cian o neill at cit for the year(he has the option to go back to ul,hes position is still there,)and tomas o se at ucc,involved in college football,their future is in great hands,and kerry while a rebuilding at senior has to take place,their not as weak as their being made out to be,and will be a force in at least three years,with kieran murphy,conor keane,jack savage,killan spillane and pauidi o se's,son coming through,they have fine young players with big futures in the game.

And it is not beyond the bounds of reality that they could win munster at senior this year ,as our set up ,theres a uncertainty with cork,and also theirs talks now that the pairc if the redevelopment goes ahead,cork may not be able to host them in the munster final.

If its in killarney, Cork have a very diffcult task.

sportinglegend

Eoin Reid of kilkenny has a full set afaik

Senior County Champ, Leinster Club Champ, All-Ireland Club Champ
National League, Leinster Champ, All Ireland Senior
Leinster and All-Ireland Minor
Leinster and All-Ireland u21
Leinster and All-Ireland Colleges
Walsh Cup
Fitzgibbon Cup
All Ireland Interfirms
National Feile All-Ireland

Some medal haul

Jackie Tyrrell has all of the above bar an Interfirms and All-Ireland minor too.

Some collection of medals that some of those kilkenny hurlers have.