Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning Post #1041

D'Agger

GavRedKing wrote: »

I'd be surprised if Bertrand went for anything higher then 7million TBH.

His days were well and truly numbered when Azpilicueta has been playing at LB the last 3 games ahead of Cole.

Hes a decent defender, not great, his main strength is going forward really and hes usually fairlyassured on the ball, I always rated Van Aanholt, whos off in Holland higher but I dont think neither were going to replace Cole long term which is nothing to be ashamed of considering how good Cole was and still is to a degree.

I reckon given game time he'll improve though but it really is time for him to move on and play reguarly.

This.

I'd value him at around 7m also. I'd like to see it happen, a defence of:




Bertrand

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Johnson

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Sahko----Agger----Skrtel



Would be solid defensively with a decent attacking platform also - you add some mettle into our midfield and improve on Moses with a decent winger then we have a good team and a decent squad with young players like Alberto, Suso, Ibe & Sterling coming through.

gafferino

amiable wrote: »

Apparently Ian Ayre is in Barcelona with Jamie Carragher
https://twitter.com/bomber_1978/status/406038320821854208

Montoya?
Sightseeing?

googled eyes

Ah I'm not saying he'd leave us for Spurs. Gives him a bargaining chip though.

amiable

googled eyes wrote: »

Ah I'm not saying he'd leave us for Spurs. Gives him a bargaining chip though.

I have a feeling that wouldn't go down too well with FSG and we could see how ruthless they really are

googled eyes

amiable wrote: »

I have a feeling that wouldn't go down too well with FSG and we could see how ruthless they really are

Can you imagine that !!! :eek:

Sir Gallagher

googled eyes wrote: »

Ah I'm not saying he'd leave us for Spurs. Gives him a bargaining chip though.

I dont think him using that as leverage would be a bright idea.

brevity

gafferino wrote: »

Montoya?
Sightseeing?

Or maybe more...

Agueroooo

Is Carragher scouting for the club?

mike65

Finally we're signing Messi just as he goes into decline.

Knex*

If we could leave Rodgers' contract until the summer, that would be nice. Unless they feel that it will get in the way of transfers etc, which would make sense.

Actually, in the process of writing this post I've pretty much changed my mind. Get the ground work done from February onwards

Still though, another three year contract should more than suffice.

googled eyes

mike65 wrote: »

Finally we're signing Messi just as he goes into decline.

He's putting it on the get the move, obviously

Courtesy Flush

billy2012 wrote: »

According to The Star Rodgers might be getting offered a new 5 year contract, and claim Spurs are interested in him.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/353092/Liverpool-to-hand-Brendan-Rodgers-a-new-five-year-deal-amid-rumours-of-Spurs-interest

I would wait till the end of the year before offering Rodgers a new contract.

What difference does it actually make. They can join other clubs if they want to and can be bought out of contracts. Talking about the terms of anyones contract in football is kind of irrelevent

billy2012

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

What difference does it actually make. They can join other clubs if they want to and can be bought out of contracts. Talking about the terms of anyones contract in football is kind of irrelevent

Money Money Money.

Vicxas

Agueroooo wrote: »

Is Carragher scouting for the club?

I think he's advocating how great the club is maybe?

Knex*

Vicxas wrote: »

I think he's advocating how great the club is maybe?

He is he doing it with the assistance of subtitles?

LuckyLloyd

googled eyes wrote: »

I'd kind of agree but if the reports of other clubs being interested the owners may be forced to offer an attractive deal if they want to keep him.

Lets be honest, this is the first bit of sustained stability we've had for a while.


On a side note. I was mad for the owners to give AVB a chance when we were looking for a new manager. If things don't work for him at Spurs ( I'm not saying he'll be sacked ) but if the team don't click soon he may have to drop a level and work his way back to a top level club.

He's in the job less than 18 months. There's still a way to go this year and the results at season's end may very well influence the club's desire to keep him long term.

What's the rush really? He has over half his current deal to go. It seems utterly reasonable to wait until the end of the season and decide on offering him a new deal or not at the end of May / start of June.

gafferino

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He's in the job less than 18 months. There's still a way to go this year and the results at season's end may very well influence the club's desire to keep him long term.

What's the rush really? He has over half his current deal to go. It seems utterly reasonable to wait until the end of the season and decide on offering him a new deal or not at the end of May / start of June.

Yes and no. If someone is sniffing around him they may want to tie him down - just as they do players.
I would bet that FSG are quite happy with him at the minute and could easily see them offering him a new contract. Barring an absolute collapse in form which would see us finish 7-8th or below then I cant see them letting him go.

Agueroooo

Rodden (U21) gone out to Carlisle on an emergency loan

Dont be at yourself

amiable wrote: »

Apparently Ian Ayre is in Barcelona with Jamie Carragher
https://twitter.com/bomber_1978/status/406038320821854208

Stand by for a photo of Xavi sitting on Ayre's shoulders.

5starpool

gafferino wrote: »

Yes and no. If someone is sniffing around him they may want to tie him down - just as they do players.
I would bet that FSG are quite happy with him at the minute and could easily see them offering him a new contract. Barring an absolute collapse in form which would see us finish 7-8th or below then I cant see them letting him go.

As someone else said though, he isn't likely to leave Liverpool to join Spurs really. Spurs may well finish above us again, but I can't see him leaving us by choice for them. If they must do it then 5 years is still a long contract, although hopefully there will be a maximum package in the event of sacking clause inserted into it if it is a 5 year thing. I hope it doesn't come to that, but with the ruthless nature of football who knows how things will pan out.

LuckyLloyd

gafferino wrote: »

Yes and no. If someone is sniffing around him they may want to tie him down - just as they do players.
I would bet that FSG are quite happy with him at the minute and could easily see them offering him a new contract. Barring an absolute collapse in form which would see us finish 7-8th or below then I cant see them letting him go.

Meh, whoever could get him to leave now would probably be attractive enough to get him to force his way out of a five year contract.

djPSB

billy2012 wrote: »

Bertrand and Enrique would have LB sorted and would provide great comp for each other. Would be great if we could get him at Xmas and send Cissokho home.

Go home Cissokho your drunk.

gafferino

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Meh, whoever could get him to leave now would probably be attractive enough to get him to force his way out of a five year contract.

Exactly. But to your original gripe of them not waiting until end of season it is fairly mute too. I think they know already what they are going to do. Give it to him now or May i dont think it says too much either way.
If there is any truth to this it may be they are already negotiating the new contract (which can take months as we all know) and it could be announced in the summer.

gafferino

5starpool wrote: »

As someone else said though, he isn't likely to leave Liverpool to join Spurs really. Spurs may well finish above us again, but I can't see him leaving us by choice for them. If they must do it then 5 years is still a long contract, although hopefully there will be a maximum package in the event of sacking clause inserted into it if it is a 5 year thing. I hope it doesn't come to that, but with the ruthless nature of football who knows how things will pan out.

Exactly.....give him a Pardew style contract!

googled eyes

gafferino wrote: »

Exactly.....give him a Pardew style contract!

Ha, I dont think anybody wants that.

LuckyLloyd

gafferino wrote: »

Exactly. But to your original gripe of them not waiting until end of season it is fairly mute too. I think they know already what they are going to do. Give it to him now or May i dont think it says too much either way.
If there is any truth to this it may be they are already negotiating the new contract (which can take months as we all know) and it could be announced in the summer.

Is that like when a cow doesn't say anything, so it doesn't matter?

IK09

LFC interested in Montoya and Bertrand...how long before there's a bid from Spurs?

5live

djPSB wrote: »

Go home Cissokho your drunk.

I feel sorry for Cissokho. His positioning looks good and he chooses the right options but he is totally lacking confidence and the ball bounces off him rather than him controlling it.

Its a tough situation for a fairly young player:(

Agent Coulson

billy2012 wrote: »

According to The Star Rodgers might be getting offered a new 5 year contract, and claim Spurs are interested in him.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/353092/Liverpool-to-hand-Brendan-Rodgers-a-new-five-year-deal-amid-rumours-of-Spurs-interest

I would wait till the end of the year before offering Rodgers a new contract.

Sports Direct News understands.. That's just Newcastle having a laugh at us and Spurs.

Kess73

5live wrote: »

I feel sorry for Cissokho. His positioning looks good and he chooses the right options but he is totally lacking confidence and the ball bounces off him rather than him controlling it.

Its a tough situation for a fairly young player:(

He is 26 so not that young a player. I was happy to see us sign Cissokho on loan, and still think that if he hits form that he would be a big help to the team, but it is up to him to be impressing in training and also on the pitch.


Might just be one of those moves where player and club just don't fit together, but outside of that it will be on the player to ensure that he makes the manager see him as a must keep.

gafferino

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Is that like when a cow doesn't say anything, so it doesn't matter?

Ha well spotted!

*moot

donfers

What bid will it take to snare bertrand and mata from chelsea?

two of them are out of favour there and will fancy proving a point

pro: rodgers and mourinho get on

con: they won't want to strengthen a rival and will have been by sturridge deal

25 million would be a fair price for those two (18 + 7) but we may have to stretch to 30

billy2012

donfers wrote: »

What bid will it take to snare bertrand and mata from chelsea?

two of them are out of favour there and will fancy proving a point

pro: rodgers and mourinho get on

con: they won't want to strengthen a rival and will have been by sturridge deal

25 million would be a fair price for those two (18 + 7) but we may have to stretch to 30

18M for Mata??....and the rest!!

Kess73

donfers wrote: »

What bid will it take to snare bertrand and mata from chelsea?

two of them are out of favour there and will fancy proving a point

pro: rodgers and mourinho get on

con: they won't want to strengthen a rival and will have been by sturridge deal

25 million would be a fair price for those two (18 + 7) but we may have to stretch to 30

Mata is a genuine top class player and would have a price tag to match if Chelsea wanted to sell him.

He could easily go for £30m on his own

billy2012

Kess73 wrote: »

Mata is a genuine top class player and would have a price tag to match if Chelsea wanted to sell him.

He could easily go for £30m on his own

Didn't he go to Chelski for about 20M in the 1st place and has only gotten better since. I was so sad when we missed out on him, I had convinced myself he was coming.

Garry Neville talking about Liverpool and there top 4 chances.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9045023/

Jamie Carragher talking about Magic Mignolet and Hendo.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9046458/

rob316

By all means throw a 5 year deal at Rodgers at the end of the season if progress is shown but it would be silly to now. Keep him on the edge, its ridiculous to think he would go to spurs, been a Irishman he would know how big of a thing it is to manage Liverpool, no offence to Spurs but it would be a huge step down imo.

I couldn't see Chelsea letting Mata come to us. They aren't stupid enough to get stung twice.

GavRedKing

billy2012 wrote: »

18M for Mata??....and the rest!!

Kess73 wrote: »

Mata is a genuine top class player and would have a price tag to match if Chelsea wanted to sell him.

He could easily go for £30m on his own

If Mata goes in Janaury to Liverpool for 18million I'll change my name, Kess will know what I'm on about.

:pac:

GavRedKing

billy2012 wrote: »

Didn't he go to Chelski for about 20M in the 1st place and has only gotten better since. I was so sad when we missed out on him, I had convinced myself he was coming.

Garry Neville talking about Liverpool and there top 4 chances.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9045023/

Jamie Carragher talking about Magic Mignolet and Hendo.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9046458/

We paid 23.5 Million I'm sure.

A 5 year deal for Rodgers?

Let's wait until we actually achieve something. The summer is the time to sort out whether he's the man to lead us forward.

If he gets us into top 4 he'll deserve an extension. If he doesn't, he'll have next season to achieve it or be fired I'd imagine.

I am pie

Mr Alan wrote: »

Just to clarify for those who enjoy talking about me, I started a new job in Sept. I've been up to my tits & have had little interest or opportunity to post in here or anywhere else for that matter.

Those "calling me out"? it's the start of December for crying out loud, behave.

There has been positive signs, there has been negative signs, our season is currently very finely balanced and I definitely wouldn't be getting carried away with hailing it as a success just yet.

So far so good & if it keeps going like this I'll have been proved wrong about Rodgers. And will be delighted about it. But there's a long long long way to go & such is the nature of the league table this season that everything could change very quickly.

Imposter.

The real Mr Alan is in a Mao-ist dungeon in London somewhere.

Francie Barrett

Agueroooo wrote: »

Rodden (U21) gone out to Carlisle on an emergency loan

Hope he can impress enough to secure a permanent deal when his contract expires this Summer.

Agueroooo

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Mata goes in Janaury to Liverpool for 18million I'll change my name, Kess will know what I'm on about.

:pac:

If we ever sign Mata I will strip off naked and do cart-wheels with Lord Trollington up O'Connell St.

I think I'm safe for the foreseeable future .

Kess73

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Mata goes in Janaury to Liverpool for 18million I'll change my name, Kess will know what I'm on about.

:pac:

Too little, too late. Especially after your latest horrifying admission.

Kesstronia may forget, but it never forgives.

5starpool

Rodden is one of those players that never really looked like making it imo. I'm surprised he hasn't been shipped out by now.

Raif Severance

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Hope he can impress enough to secure a permanent deal when his contract expires this Summer.

Yup. Good Luck to him.

I actually Rate him higher than Coady for the DM Position.

Francie Barrett

5starpool wrote: »

Rodden is one of those players that never really looked like making it imo. I'm surprised he hasn't been shipped out by now.

He's always seemed to have a good attitude and workrate

witnessrenegade

Adam Morgan gone to Yeovil with the view of a permanent switch, is today loan deadline day?

witnessrenegade

Kristoffer Peterson gone to Tranmere also!

Agent Coulson

I would say a lot these moves are guys with no future going out in the shop window now.

I would expect a big overhaul of the youth system is coming. Alot of clearing out of deadwood so to speak.