Andy Lee

Frankie Lee · 12-04-2014 6:41pm

magma69 wrote: »

Tbh, I think his problems lie beyond his poor physical condition. He hasn't looked impressive in years.

The Vera shut-out 3 1/2 years ago now.

Johnnythefox4 · 12-04-2014 6:41pm

magma69 wrote: »

I only saw the last four rounds and I honestly could only give him one. Lee took a hiding and was in trouble at the end. The neutral crowd were booing at the decision. He probably didn't deserve it.

Jaysus.

Johnnythefox4 · 12-04-2014 6:44pm

Small report on Andy's fight here

http://www.boxingscene.com/early-sauerland-results-andy-lee-struggles-win--76635

Sounds like a complete robbery

Syferus · 12-04-2014 11:01pm

Eh, he's had some shocking luck the other way so I'm not too bothered if it swings the other direction for once.

Dunno where Lee goes from here. Still time for an up-turn.

magma69 · 13-04-2014 8:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltXCH2EU9GE

There's the whole fight. Scored it a draw. Wouldn't call it a robbery but had Horta got the nod wouldn't have complained.

unknown13 · 13-04-2014 10:09pm

The fight was made at 157 but I think Lee should stick it out for another fight to see how he gets on.

Charlie George · 15-04-2014 1:04am

Andy got hit a few times too many in the latter rounds,i think he got the early few rounds as Horta was very defensive,a good 8 rounds of a scrap is just what the doctor ordered for Andy and he is fighting in Wales next month.

walshb · 15-04-2014 7:59am

unknown13 wrote: »

The fight was made at 157 but I think Lee should stick it out for another fight to see how he gets on.

So for Lee that is a long way of 154 lbs.

gene_tunney · 15-04-2014 9:04am

Charlie George wrote: »

Andy got hit a few times too many in the latter rounds,i think he got the early few rounds as Horta was very defensive,a good 8 rounds of a scrap is just what the doctor ordered for Andy and he is fighting in Wales next month.

A beating off a smaller man is never what the doctor ordered

magma69 · 15-04-2014 5:55pm

Charlie George wrote: »

Andy got hit a few times too many in the latter rounds,i think he got the early few rounds as Horta was very defensive,a good 8 rounds of a scrap is just what the doctor ordered for Andy and he is fighting in Wales next month.

Talib Fiasco · 22-04-2014 2:21pm

Lee apparently fighting John Jackson on the Cotto-Martinez undercard...nothing confimed yet though

walshb · 22-04-2014 2:39pm

I just saw that Lee weighed 158.5 lbs for his last fight. This dismisses any legitimate claims that he will fight (healthily) at 154 lbs.

Gorman700 · 22-04-2014 7:35pm

In the name of Christ what is going on with this 154 rubbish? Andy has been stop-start the last couple of years. He needs to get this crap of 154 out of his head, fight a gate keeper, win impressively, fight his way to a mandatory and have his shot at a title.

Sick to death of the way he's being handled.

A P · 22-04-2014 7:40pm

He discussed the logic on the Second Captains podcast last Thursday.

https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com/second-captains-1704-european-rugby-landscape-irelands-new-13-andy-lee?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Secondcaptainsitcom+%28Second+Captains+%40+The+Irish+Times%29&utm_content=FeedBurner

magma69 · 23-04-2014 2:52pm

Lee is set to fight Julian Jackson's son, John, on the Cotto v Martinez undercard. Would be burying my head in the sand if I said there isn't a big chance of him being stopped here. Lee's poor defence, dodgy stamina and weight cutting doesn't bode well.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=483147&cat=boxer

Henno30 · 02-10-2014 12:16pm

Lee is being seriously considered for a fight with Matt Korobov for the vacant WBO strap.

Was supposed to be Andrade, then Billy Joe Saunders, but both pulled out. Apparently Lee is now the man in line.

Henno30 · 02-10-2014 12:50pm

pac_man wrote: »

Where did you hear that? Was only reading yesterday that he was fighting him on the back of the Eubank mess? Just had a look at the Rankings and it would suggest that one of the Charlo bros are next in line if Saunders pulled out.

WBO president on twitter. Says he has referred a request from promoters for Lee-Korobov to the championship committee.

My guess is Saunders-Eubank is back in play.

Henno30 · 02-10-2014 12:51pm

https://twitter.com/PacoValcarcel/status/517474366691749889

magma69 · 02-10-2014 7:49pm

If it goes ahead. I'd imagine this will be on a Top Rank card in the US rather than a Warren card.

Henno30 · 02-10-2014 9:06pm

magma69 wrote: »

If it goes ahead. I'd imagine this will be on a Top Rank card in the US rather than a Warren card.

On the undercard for Bradley-Chaves I reckon. Early December.

Charlie George · 03-10-2014 1:03am

Mighty news,come on Andy.

magma69 · 04-10-2014 6:48pm

Lee gets hammered if this comes off imo.

Henno30 · 05-10-2014 1:55am

magma69 wrote: »

Lee gets hammered if this comes off imo.

Lee has a puncher's chance and in all likelihood that's about it. Korobov will land at will when they're at close range.

If Lee could get back to the form he showed against Chavez Jr then you'd give him a shot. Korobov was a great amateur but he hasn't exactly looked an exceptional pro. But you couldn't pick the Lee we've seen for the past two years against any top level opponent.

05-10-2014 2:05am

magma69 wrote: »

Lee gets hammered if this comes off imo.

I disagree if Andy gets inside and brings the fight to Korobov, he can win this.

Henno30 · 05-10-2014 12:41pm

187187 wrote: »

I disagree if Andy gets inside and brings the fight to Korobov, he can win this.

Getting inside will be the least of his troubles.

megadodge · 05-10-2014 2:23pm

I'm not convinced by Korobov at all. He came into the pros with a very big reputation and has literally never looked the part. He has had a far longer apprenticeship than someone of his supposed credentials should have had, which speaks volumes of what his backers seem to think.

Korobov's lack of stamina has been a major issue, but unfortunately Andy's isn't exactly stellar either. If it was better I'd give Andy a very good chance. As it is, I'm not writing him off, without saying he's going to win, but I don't think it will be the cakewalk some here are talking of.

Henno30 · 05-10-2014 7:58pm

Korobov is no killer, but just look at Lee's form. He's been in deep trouble against guys like Horta and John Jackson. Korobov's been fighting nobodies too but at least he's been beating them handily.

megadodge · 05-10-2014 9:27pm

I think that has a lot to do with fighting at light-middle - which was completely nuts in my opinion. He wasn't physically strong at middle, so how the hell was he going to get stronger starving himself to get down to a weight he hadn't made in years?

Korobov is very strong physically, but is still far more boxer than fighter which is good for Andy. I think he'll be competitive.

magma69 · 06-10-2014 1:28am

187187 wrote: »

I disagree if Andy gets inside and brings the fight to Korobov, he can win this.

Not sure I get your point. Andy Lee has no inside game. Never had.

Henno30 · 06-10-2014 8:18pm

Bob Arum has confirmed that this is going to be in Dublin

https://twitter.com/steveucnlive/status/519192381548421120

ah,sure · 07-10-2014 3:16pm

DiBella is still Lee's promoter and this show won't go ahead without agreement from FW, TR, DBE and Adam Booth. Still details to be signed about date and venue, regardless of what Bob Arum told US media.

magma69 · 07-10-2014 4:05pm

ah,sure wrote: »

DiBella is still Lee's promoter and this show won't go ahead without agreement from FW, TR, DBE and Adam Booth. Still details to be signed about date and venue, regardless of what Bob Arum told US media.

Seems like a mess promotion-wise alright. Warren seemingly has nothing to do with either fighters but because Saunders was supposed to fight he somehow retains involvement?

It's strange as I thought Arum would be the one most against a fight in Lee's backyard.

If Booth doesn't think this is the right fight for Andy, he might as well pack it in as his coach because he won't get a better chance at a world title should this go ahead.

ah,sure · 07-10-2014 4:18pm

Everyone involved wants the fight, but I believe FW & TR have agreed in principle to stage it without actually forming a proper plan as to how. Dublin is the desired venue but it's too early to say it's a done deal when it's not.

Too Tough To Die · 07-10-2014 7:08pm

ah,sure wrote: »

Everyone involved wants the fight, but I believe FW & TR have agreed in principle to stage it without actually forming a proper plan as to how. Dublin is the desired venue but it's too early to say it's a done deal when it's not.

It's never too early for Frank Warren to announce a fight.

Frankie Lee · 07-10-2014 7:31pm

Would the 3 Arena be the venue? Hard to know what sort of following Lee would be able to attract at this stage of his career, he is on of boxing's more likeable characters but is that enough to sell tickets. Back in the RTE days there was hype about his career and he was known by the general public but that hype has pretty much dwindled.

Halloween Jack · 08-10-2014 8:17am

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Would the 3 Arena be the venue? Hard to know what sort of following Lee would be able to attract at this stage of his career, he is on of boxing's more likeable characters but is that enough to sell tickets. Back in the RTE days there was hype about his career and he was known by the general public but that hype has pretty much dwindled.

It's a world title fight though, we don't see too many of them in these parts. We have a lot of event junkies in this country, given the right promotional campaign I'd say it could do well.

boxer.fan · 08-10-2014 11:47am

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Would the 3 Arena be the venue? Hard to know what sort of following Lee would be able to attract at this stage of his career, he is on of boxing's more likeable characters but is that enough to sell tickets. Back in the RTE days there was hype about his career and he was known by the general public but that hype has pretty much dwindled.

Unfortunately this country has been starved of decent boxing promotions for years. The recent Frampton headliner in Belfast & this potential line-up in Dublin are to be welcomed.

Theres no doubt that Lee has gone off the boil a bit, however, I think the ticket buyers are still very much behind him & with a reasonable undercard this event should do well.

HigginsJ · 12-10-2014 12:50pm

Andy Lee will be fighting Koborov for the title on the undercard of the Bradley-Chavez fight

ah,sure · 12-10-2014 7:55pm

"Bout subject to change & commission approval"...

dougm1970 · 14-10-2014 10:20pm

shame its not in dublin now.

Spazdarn · 17-10-2014 2:45pm

I've never actually seen a Koborov fight, what are Andy's chances?

Henno30 · 18-10-2014 1:55am

Spazdarn wrote: »

I've never actually seen a Koborov fight, what are Andy's chances?

Going on recent form, not great.

Charlie George · 21-10-2014 1:05am

Andy to win on points.

Spazdarn · 21-10-2014 11:52am

I really want Andy to get a World title before he retires, I don't think he'll ever become that level of a fighter and if anything is on the wane... but I'd like for him to have become a world champion in much the way Darren Barker was, even if it would be short lived.

walshb · 21-10-2014 12:49pm

Spazdarn wrote: »

I really want Andy to get a World title before he retires, I don't think he'll ever become that level of a fighter and if anything is on the wane... but I'd like for him to have become a world champion in much the way Darren Barker was, even if it would be short lived.

I'd love this too, but there is a big part of me that laughs at the suggestion. It almost mocks the sport that Lee and Barker could be tagged as world champions.

FTA69 · 21-10-2014 1:11pm

No disrespect to Andy but I could never rate him at world level. His stamina issues are too great and he has continually struggled against very mediocre opposition. He has great boxing skills but in my opinion he is simply not suited for the pro-game, the Chavez bout being the best example of this.