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I wasn't a huge Street Fighter fan but appreciate how influential it was. What about Mortal Kombat too..... there was movies made out of these games ladies & gents. They must have been somewhat good.....

When I did play SF I was one of those blanka picking ****, who sat with the fire on as much as possible

tok9

Oh and just on my vote since I only voted for MGS3 even though I genuinely love that series (MGS4 less so but still) I couldn't justify including several games from a series since a Top 10 is so small as it is.

I couldn't even tell you how many games I've played and I'm sure the same applies to several here

Retr0gamer

Mortal Kombat was a dreadful game that was a quick cheap cash grab for the fighting game craze and doesn't deserve to be in any top whatever list. It only sold on controversy. Mortal Kombat 2 was at least playable but still not that great and after that it was always in the shadow of far better fighters until the surprisingly great recent MK game.

There's a fair few amazing games left off that list, not just obscure titles but popular ones like Street Fighter 2.

Totally disagree with the list of course but at least the only two head scratchers are Tomb Raider and Goldeneye for me. So a bunch of randomers on an irish forum know their **** more than the Irish Times.

Reekwind

Timmyctc wrote: »

Again though, can people not accept that a great game comes out sometimes and when it does are we to list it as a great game or say "That doesnt deserve to be in a top 10 list, its only new"

And sometimes a game really is that good. In general though I'd expect even an instant classic to have stood the test of time somewhat before being considered one of the best in history. Perspective often adds a lot

If we were to do this exercise in a year's time then I'd expect TLOU to still feature but probably not in the top ten

Taylor365

Retr0gamer wrote: »

So a bunch of randomers on an irish forum Goats know their **** more than the Irish Times.

FTFY

Reekwind

I'm missing something. The Times said what, when?

Retr0gamer

Reekwind wrote: »

And sometimes a game really is that good. In general though I'd expect even an instant classic to have stood the test of time somewhat before being considered one of the best in history. Perspective often adds a lot

If we were to do this exercise in a year's time then I'd expect TLOU to still feature but probably not in the top ten

I've no doubt that TLOU will go down as one fo the greats of this generation but it takes a while for the hype to die down and sometimes peoples opinions change in retrospect. Look how many best game eva!'s we've had this year with Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite and TLOU or how peoples opinions drastically changed on games like GTAIV and MGS2 in retrospect. TLOU is superb but for me there's a few little niggles that stop it being rated as a masterpiece like Super Metroid.

TomCleverly

So did this end last Sunday, or is it continuing till next Sunday? If next I'll throw my list up.

Retr0gamer

Reekwind wrote: »

I'm missing something. The Times said what, when?

The thread that prompted this thread:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057093663

BTW: welcome to last week :P

mixery

Did no one mention Mafia TCoLH?!

krudler

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Mortal Kombat was a dreadful game that was a quick cheap cash grab for the fighting game craze and doesn't deserve to be in any top whatever list. It only sold on controversy. Mortal Kombat 2 was at least playable but still not that great and after that it was always in the shadow of far better fighters until the surprisingly great recent MK game.

There's a fair few amazing games left off that list, not just obscure titles but popular ones like Street Fighter 2.

Totally disagree with the list of course but at least the only two head scratchers are Tomb Raider and Goldeneye for me. So a bunch of randomers on an irish forum know their **** more than the Irish Times.

Which ones out of interest? There's plenty of games that deserve to be on there for various reasons. Whether being influential or just plain great.

James Howlett

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's a fair few amazing games left off that list, not just obscure titles but popular ones like Street Fighter 2.

Totally disagree with the list of course but at least the only two head scratchers are Tomb Raider and Goldeneye for me. So a bunch of randomers on an irish forum know their **** more than the Irish Times.

I think lists like "Great X of All Time" need a caveat attached.
A list comprising the 50 greatest games (to mean most influential games that introduced new standards for gaming) would certainly be different to a list comprising the 50 greatest games (to mean games that have stood the test of time and are as playable today as they were upon first release).

I am a massive fan of both Tomb Raider and Goldeneye however I would be of the opinion that both of those games belong on only one of the above lists.

Another poster pointed out earlier that the age category of voters... I would be interested to see this done again with lists for different age categories to see how they differ.

Hank Scorpio

the groutch wrote: »

if I had grouped together all the votes for SF2, SF2 Turbo & Super SF2, then it would have landed somewhere around #30.

Not trying to sound douchey but theyre all the same game more or less bar some speed differences and a couple of extra characters, definately think it should be in the list but your poll your rules! Must of taken ages to compile the list so respect for that.

On topic of mortal kombat 2 etc, without the blood and fatalities it would never have gotten popular. all the characters have the same moveset except 2 or 3 special moves, compared to SF at the time in terms of complexity it would get a 3 compared to a 10 for sf2!

Retr0gamer

krudler wrote: »

Which ones out of interest? There's plenty of games that deserve to be on there for various reasons. Whether being influential or just plain great.

Dark Souls should be no. 1

Be serious all the other games on the list I'd consider to be great games, anything else I'd prefer to see on the list would be obscure or old so would never end up on a populist list like this. For instance, FFVII will always be a popular choice but there are far superior examples of JRPGs, many already on the list. I can bang on about weird JRPGs but then this is a populist list so it's silly realistic and doesn't change the fact that its still a fantastic game.

As for the 2, make it 3 I'm adding GTA3 to that list, I'm surprised about it's becasue they aren't that great anymore are there are far better examples in their respective genres. As James Howlett says, they are influential but I can't consider them great games especially when there is stuff out at the moment that totally eclipses them in playability in their respective genres. I suppose it's a different way of rating games than some people have.

I was surprised to see some great games actually make the list, Persona 4 and Journey off the top of my head. Also I wasn't the only person that voted for Panzer Dragoon Saga!

Tar.Aldarion

Deleted User wrote: »

I wasn't a huge Street Fighter fan but appreciate how influential it was. What about Mortal Kombat too..... there was movies made out of these games ladies & gents. They must have been somewhat good.....

When I did play SF I was one of those blanka picking ****, who sat with the fire on as much as possible

mortal kombat trilogy ftw, was really considering putting it on my list

jasonbourne.cs

1. Final Fantasy VII ( PS )
2. Command & Conquer: Red Alert ( PC )
3. Metal Gear Solid 3 ( PS )
4. Timesplitters 2 ( PS2 )
5. GTA : Vice City ( PS2 )
6. Counter Strike : Source ( PC )
7. Uncharted 2 ( PS3 )
8. Prince Of Persia : Sands of Time
9. Mariokart ( Snes )
10.Call of Duty : Modern Warfare

SnitchingBubs

Long time lurker on boards. I made an account specifically to take part in this thread and then i see it is closed . None the less

1.Metal Gear Solid(PS1)
2.Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow(Gameboy Colour)
3.GTA V (PS3)
4.GTA San Andreas(PS2)
5.Driver (PS1)
6.Call of Duty:Modern Warfare 2
7.Bully:Canis Canem Edit(PS2)
8.Football Manager 2012(PC)
9.Final Fantasy X(PS2)
10.C&c Red alert

Reekwind

Retr0gamer wrote: »

BTW: welcome to last week :P

Last week is a scary place, in which people who know nothing about computer games are paid to write about computer games

Grimebox

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Has anyone payed the original tomb raider recently? Time has not been kind. It's got some awfully clunky controls.

They were clunky at the time! I had no idea that game was so highly rated

I can't believe I forgot to mention any of the C & C games. Red Alert 2 especially so many hours wasted online after great fun on the campaigns

krudler

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Dark Souls should be no. 1

Be serious all the other games on the list I'd consider to be great games, anything else I'd prefer to see on the list would be obscure or old so would never end up on a populist list like this. For instance, FFVII will always be a popular choice but there are far superior examples of JRPGs, many already on the list. I can bang on about weird JRPGs but then this is a populist list so it's silly realistic and doesn't change the fact that its still a fantastic game.

As for the 2, make it 3 I'm adding GTA3 to that list, I'm surprised about it's becasue they aren't that great anymore are there are far better examples in their respective genres. As James Howlett says, they are influential but I can't consider them great games especially when there is stuff out at the moment that totally eclipses them in playability in their respective genres. I suppose it's a different way of rating games than some people have.

I was surprised to see some great games actually make the list, Persona 4 and Journey off the top of my head. Also I wasn't the only person that voted for Panzer Dragoon Saga!

I guess "best" and "most influential" could be 50 completely different games. GTA3 would most definitely be in a top influential list, and it is a good game but I agree the subsequent ones took the base and improved on it.
Gaming is pretty unique in that regard, it's rare that say a movie franchise gets better with every sequel usually it's the complete opposite.

Take something like Assassin's Creed, the first one is painfully average and dull to play, the 2nd is a massive improvement. Super Mario Bros is a hugely iconic and influential game, SMB3 and World are both better games in every way than it, but it still deserves is place in history.

o1s1n

Grimebox wrote: »

They were clunky at the time! I had no idea that game was so highly rated

Nothing like controlling a slender female protagonist with tank controls :pac:

Loved the first game myself. Was one of the first 3D rendered exploration games I played though - so was fairly mind blowing.

Zeouterlimits

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

every single console fps maybe. but they don't count, not even a little

Ha! Typical nerd superiority back patting.

Taylor365

People stop putting top 10 list! :mad:

You're too late! Save your brain for the game of the year thread!

one shot bang bang

1 Super mario
2 Sonic
3 zelda ocarina of time
4 Age of empires
5 command and conquer
6 Goldeneye 007
7 Final fantasy 7
8 Final fantasy 12
9 Gran turismo
10 World Rally Championship

deadybai

when are the results lads?

Shiminay

About 2 pages back

DublinArnie

Realised voting is over

Grimebox

Actually it's a complete travesty that Chrono Trigger isn't on that list. Easily one of my favourite games of all time. Still stands up brilliantly today. I suggest you folk give it a shot considering it didn't even make the top 50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB-KcAIg3Qw

deadybai

cant beleive resident evil 4 isnt on the list. That game was one of the best on the ps2/of all time. certainly better than re2 and re1. I thought alot of people voted for re4 too

the groutch

if I had been able to work out a faster way of tabulating all the scores, I would have left it open for longer, but 1,000 votes (100 top 10s) was about as much as I could handle.

krudler

deadybai wrote: »

cant beleive resident evil 4 isnt on the list. That game was one of the best on the ps2/of all time. certainly better than re2 and re1. I thought alot of people voted for re4 too

I completely forgot it tbh

TheGunns

Not sure if it's allowed but we could set up a google form so that way all the results would be nicely put into a spreadsheet with no hassle

krudler

I forgot Ikaruga too, arse, I love that game.

CiDeRmAn

Descent and it's sequel are fantastic on the PS, though they were made for the PC, I remember now how impressive they were and may still be, haven't played them in about 14 years, still there though!

krudler

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Descent and it's sequel are fantastic on the PS, though they were made for the PC, I remember now how impressive they were and may still be, haven't played them in about 14 years, still there though!

That was the one with multiple tiered levels and tunnels and stuff, that you could rotate through, vaguely remember it.

Dacelonid

TheGunns wrote: »

Not sure if it's allowed but we could set up a google form so that way all the results would be nicely put into a spreadsheet with no hassle

The only problem with that really is that people would need to make sure the names are all the same. One problem is people putting in TES 4 or Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion etc

Also people saying Farcry series, or Mortal Kombat series is just pointless

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Descent and it's sequel are fantastic on the PS, though they were made for the PC, I remember now how impressive they were and may still be, haven't played them in about 14 years, still there though!

The first one has probably aged a good bit but I really enjoyed the sequel. The first game was noteworthy for being one of if not the first all polygon 3D shooters with a fully polygonal world.

Not sure how the hell you play it on a PS1 pad, it was complex enough with mouse and keyboard.

Also Chrono Trigger > FFVII. Fact.

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The first one has probably aged a good bit but I really enjoyed the sequel. The first game was noteworthy for being one of if not the first all polygon 3D shooters with a fully polygonal world.

Not sure how the hell you play it on a PS1 pad, it was complex enough with mouse and keyboard.

Also Chrono Trigger > FFVII. Fact.

And that was prior to the advent of analogue pads.
It raises an interesting, less mentioned feature of retro games, where you had to learn a new control system with each new game, even if it was in the same genre and on the same system.
Anyone who played MOH on the PS1 will know how idiosyncratic the controls were, but we were willing to put in the time to get used to it, same with Descent.
Now we have common controls across a system, with most games also letting you redefine the controls to suit, we forget what it was to work at a game before we could start to enjoy it!

Retr0gamer

Medal of Honour was fine once you changed the default controls to the controls that Halo would later use. It worked great on a dual shock then. The default controls were more like Goldeneye except goldeneye made up for how awful the controls were with a ridiculous amout of auto aiming.

Chris_Heilong

I was lucky that I owned most of the systems during their lives and I would put ICO in there but someone broke my copy when I was only 1 hour into it and I never ended up picking up a new copy. These are some of the greatest games ever made and I know alot of you missed out on the Saturn exclusives but trust me these were epic.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Dark Savior
Command and Conquer
Ecco Tides of Time
Super Mario World
Megaman 2
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Soul Calibure
Thunder Force 4
Genso Suikoden
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Bionic Commando
Hotel Dusk
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Soliel
Super Metroid
Zelda link to the Past
Herzog Zwei
Streets of Rage 2
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy 7
Street fighter Alpha 2
Rocket knight adventure
Doom
Half Life
Shenmue

LocoRoco
Silent Hill 2
Resident Evil 2
Burnout Paradise
Saturn Bomberman
Jetpack
pacman
Legacy of Kain
Soul Reaver
Mario Kart 64
Castlevania Aria of sorrow
Strider
The Walking Dead
Hotline Miami
Golden Axe
Shinning Force
virtua cop
Halo
Crysis
Ghouls n Ghosts
Bust a Move
Arkem Asylum
Skys of Arcadia
Super Robot wars
Outrun
Age of Empires
Splatter House
Mass Effect

krudler

I wanna change my list and add Bubble Bobble, neglected arcade games

The JMC

Quite happy with how the list turned out in the end. I wasn't too concerned about the games I thought were the "best" when I placed my vote, I rather placed my votes based on the games I enjoyed the most and have the fondest memories of which I believe was the right thing to do in hindsight. I certainly had a few votes that weren't recognized (Dungeon Keeper & Rollercoaster Tycoon) but that was understandable of course.

I think it's unfair to judge an old game against current games since technology changes, gameplay design has changed and graphics have changed. It's like comparing footballers of different eras against current ones, it's just an unfair comparison. I was quite pleased to see Oblivion as the top ranked Elder Scrolls game since I feel people don't remember the god awful combat in Morrowind anymore. The Final Fantasy games were definitely ranked in the correct order except 10 probably could have been replaced by 6, 8 or 4. I've always felt that 9 was the most criminally underrated game and a bit disappointed to see 7 & 9 as low as 14 & 22 respectively.

Magill

Started playing Zelda:OoT again tonite, been a long time... still got that charm and looks pretty good still !

Vojera

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Now we have common controls across a system, with most games also letting you redefine the controls to suit, we forget what it was to work at a game before we could start to enjoy it!

That's so true. I get flummoxed now if there's no invert y-axis option :P

SeantheMan

On the topic of controls, 13 years ago

krudler

^ like how it's supposed to be lol

Chris_Heilong

krudler wrote: »

^ like how it's supposed to be lol

How it became, there was a time this was a new concept. We used to usee the D pad for up,down,left,right and shoulder buttons for strife and look up and down.

Kiith

I used to use the arrow keys to move...and was convinced everyone else did it wrong :pac:

Vicxas

I think it was Ape Escape was the first console game to use the analogs exclusively, and I was blown away. Bye Bye D-pad!