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PCA/Fitness test

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  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Here are my top tips for the PCA - this is what I found helpful, but everybody is different. I can only offer my opinion based on what I experienced and what worked for me.

    ATTITUDE - Positive Attitude - stride in to the hall with your head held high and an absolute certainty in your head that you are going to pass. Don't talk yourself out of a pass before you even try. Don't worry at how the people coming out look - everybody is different.

    MAXIMUM EFFORT - the PCA is a max effort test. Don't try and pace yourself (see LAPS), give it everything you have from the start. Push hard.

    LAPS - your second lap will be slower than your first, your third will be slower than your second. Get a fast first lap in and get some time in the bank.

    SPEED - sprint from the start to the crawl. Sprint from the jump to the wall - everything else is close to each other. Once you finish the obstacles on each lap and drop the bag, sprint along the back, up the side and along the top to the crawl. SPRINT!!!! This is where you can make time. Lengthen your stride and go as fast as you can. On the last lap, once you drop the drag bag, run like you stole it!! And keep going until you are through the green cones (finish gate).

    BIG LOSSES - the crawl, stairs/over/stairs and cones are the obstacles to make sure you clear without having to redo. If you make a mistake, you have to complete the obstacle, return to the start of it and redo it. Take it careful. The other obstacles don't take as much time to redo, but still, aim for zero faults. Don't panic if you do get a fault though, there is still time.

    INSTRUCTIONS - if you think you have done something wrong, don't stop and look at the PTI. They will give you a loud instruction to redo something if required (BACK!!!!), so charge on and only stop and redo if they tell you to.

    LACES - at the briefing the PTI will tell you to tighten your laces - make sure you do! One guy in the C2 PCA lost a shoe on the way round and had to stop and put it back on again!

    CRAWL - crawl right to the end of the mat before you stand up (your hands should be at the end, not your knees/feet). It's hard to judge where your back is so make sure you don't stand up too early and knock a bar off.

    STAIRS - if you are tall, go out the exit gate backwards - makes it easier to keep your back/head down. And I think it aligns you better for the balance beam.

    BALANCE - deliberately step on the black lines at the start and end.

    WALL - get your toes planted on the first ledge and a good grip on the top. Push hard with your legs and pull with your arms - foot on the next ledge and push - then knee on the top. You don't need to stand up at the top. Crawl/scramble on hands/knees/toes across and drop down the other side. Standing up just wastes energy and makes for a harder drop on the other side.

    BAG - lift it as high as you can so that there is less resistance on the floor, although it does slide OK on the floor anyway. If you don't quite get it over the line the PTI will tell you and you just have to pull it the rest of the way, you don't have to redo.

    PUSH/PULL - get MAD!! When you finish the last lap, walk slowly over to the machine while taking big slow deep breaths to get some of your wind back. Step up, get aligned and think about someone/something that has really made you angry and channel that anger into the machine.

    LEAVE - leave it all on the course! Don't walk out of the hall thinking that you could have tried harder.

    AFTER - bring water - you will need a drink afterwards as your mouth will have zero moisture. Give encouragement to the next people going in. When you get your envelope, if it has a binder inside (feels like a pencil) then you have passed.

    BEER (other drinks are available!) - you passed, have one/several to celebrate!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    I would disagree with your bag tip, I tried both lifting the bag and dragging it low. I found dragging it low made it feel a lot lighter as you aren't lifting the bag and carrying it, dragging it will go with ease.

    I am 6'1 so that could also be a reason why it was easier, also when lifting I found it kept hitting the back of my legs.

    Just my 2 cents


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    That's interesting D4z, I am over 6ft as well and I found it easier to lift the first half of the bag up off the floor so that I had to bend down less. I lifted and dragged it with one hand while running forward and I was slightly off to the side of it, so it was away from my legs. But, as I said, everybody is different and the tips were just what worked for me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Robyn O


    I don't know if this is a silly question but on the familiarisation day for the PCA do you get to do a lap or the course or is it simply look don't touch?


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    Robyn O wrote: »
    I don't know if this is a silly question but on the familiarisation day for the PCA do you get to do a lap or the course or is it simply look don't touch?

    You can't do a test lap. You can walk around it and try each obstacle but if they see you running at it and timing yourself they would probably disqualify you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Robyn O


    THANKS! Did everyone go wearing sports gear?


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    Robyn O wrote: »
    THANKS! Did everyone go wearing sports gear?

    Yeah :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Everyone ready for their PCA which may or may not be forthcoming?

    Positive thinking and plenty of circuits :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Yea looking forward to it in a weird sort of way, will be interesting to get down to the familiarisation session too. Sprints sprints sprints!


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Smilo89


    I can't wait until its over!
    Anyone any tips on how to make my lungs feel like they arent bleeding?! I think thats what slows me down on my final lap :'(

    I failed by a VERY VERY small number of seconds in C2 :( This time i'm going in, taking all of C3POPO's advice (thanks :)) and getting that first lap done FAST!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    If you have enough time then practice the bleep test and go to circuits, both of those will be excellent for passing the pca. Bleep test will give you that bleeding if you push yourself and build your stamina.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    blueboat wrote: »
    Yea looking forward to it in a weird sort of way, will be interesting to get down to the familiarisation session too. Sprints sprints sprints!
    The fam sessions are great- the PTIs give you some good advice and are really helpful plus you get to meet other candidates and have a good chat :)
    Smilo89 wrote: »
    I can't wait until its over!
    Anyone any tips on how to make my lungs feel like they arent bleeding?! I think thats what slows me down on my final lap :'(

    I failed by a VERY VERY small number of seconds in C2 :( This time i'm going in, taking all of C3POPO's advice (thanks :)) and getting that first lap done FAST!!!!!!!!!!
    I was the same Smilo89, I failed the PCA in C1 by a couple of seconds and was out of the process :( My big mistake was that I tried to pace myself to ensure I would have enough in the tank to get round all the laps, but I was too slow and then I made a couple of mistakes during the last lap and failed. In C2 and C3, I passed in under 3.5 minutes as I just went full on and didn't make any mistakes. Beforehand, I did short sprint training (I believe the fancy name is Fartlek!). I went for a 3 mile run three times a week, but during the run, I picked a point (next road junction, number of lampposts ahead) and sprinted flat out to the point and then walked or jogged slowly until I recovered, then picked another point and ran flat out again. As I progressed, I could make the sprints longer and the recovery less. I think this really helped when doing the PCA as I could really hammer the sprint sections and recover better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Really useful familiarisation session today. Good to get a play on everything and chat to the PTI's.

    Anyone else go?

    Roll on PCA :D :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Yup, couldn't imagine not having went today. Very, very useful. Very friendly too, excited now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Which one were u in blueboat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Robyn O


    Yeah fam session was a great confidence boost now that we're not venturing into the unknown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Were you there Bunsen? Lunchtime one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    I was at the afternoon one; not lunchtime but after that.

    Good mix of candidates young and old, male and female.

    You would be mad not to attend the Fam session. Would have been good to do it ages ago and then again now.

    Was hoping they'd let us do it outside in this great weather lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    blueboat wrote: »
    Were you there Bunsen? Lunchtime one.

    Yeas! Small girl brite pink top!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Anyone else disappointed DS Bobby Singleton wasn't there?

    #PSNIbanter


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  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Anyone else disappointed DS Bobby Singleton wasn't there?

    #PSNIbanter

    Haha he could be the motivation at the finishing line


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    I think u may just take his place then!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Lol! Bunsen, think I may have said hi to ya. White top, grey joggers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    blueboat wrote: »
    Lol! Bunsen, think I may have said hi to ya. White top, grey joggers.

    Aye we did! U were taller than me!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Yup! That would be about right! Hopefully see as many as you guys again at hotel G.


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Hope so!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Momc82


    I was at the morning one. Really worth the 100 mile round trip...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Sydnor87


    Momc82 wrote: »
    I was at the morning one. Really worth the 100 mile round trip...

    Did you not think so? I thought it was very useful to see the course in person and try the obstacles out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Momc82


    Sydnor87 wrote: »
    Momc82 wrote: »
    I was at the morning one. Really worth the 100 mile round trip...

    Did you not think so? I thought it was very useful to see the course in person and try the obstacles out.

    I totally did think it was worth it. Triple dot was a mistake! Whoops lol


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Feeling a bit left out; no Boardies at my session :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Does a fit, strong cop equal a great cop? Is it all about the brawn and nothing else?

    If a candidate passes PCA after retest should that hinder them in some way? Bear in mind the mainland forces give you three attempts to pass their fitness test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Sydnor87


    If you meet the requirements after a retest there should be no issue, you've done what you needed to qualify.

    I do think the merit list should be more flexible however, to allow someone who passed the PCA first time to move above those who didn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    Anyome know what the notice for a retest is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Pottergirl16


    swl33t wrote: »
    Anyome know what the notice for a retest is?

    Do you mean if you have failed? Or if it has expired?


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    Expired


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  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    So pleased to get my PCA done and dusted :D

    Had I passed on the first attempt then I wouldn't have met some really great folk at the sessions. Glad they all passed too :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Smilo89


    Homer01 wrote: »
    So pleased to get my PCA done and dusted :D

    Had I passed on the first attempt then I wouldn't have met some really great folk at the sessions. Glad they all passed too :)
    Well done Homer01 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    Congrats homer, real happy to hear that you passed. How did it feel for you this time round?


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Homer01 wrote: »
    So pleased to get my PCA done and dusted :D

    Had I passed on the first attempt then I wouldn't have met some really great folk at the sessions. Glad they all passed too :)

    Totally agree Homer!! A lovely bunch of potential colleagues!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    blueboat wrote: »
    Congrats homer, real happy to hear that you passed. How did it feel for you this time round?

    Thanks blueboat. Definitely felt stronger. Lap 3 on my first attempt was just awful but didn't feel anywhere as bad this time. Improved on previous time by a good 30 seconds so well pleased. I followed a simple training plan and it clearly paid off.

    My advice to future PCA takers is if you don't pass first time make sure to attend the support sessions as they really help. I think all those that attended the sessions passed.

    Felt a bit bad for those who got the skinny envelope as I've been that person and it's no fun :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Well done homer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Thanks blueboat. Definitely felt stronger. Lap 3 on my first attempt was just awful but didn't feel anywhere as bad this time. Improved on previous time by a good 30 seconds so well pleased. I followed a simple training plan and it clearly paid off.

    My advice to future PCA takers is if you don't pass first time make sure to attend the support sessions as they really help. I think all those that attended the sessions passed.

    Felt a bit bad for those who got the skinny envelope as I've been that person and it's no fun :(

    Again totally agree with Homer! I passed yesterday to at the retest but defo the sessions really helped!


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Momc82


    Can't agree more with the guys about the support sessions. Totally makes a difference. I got my time down by 45 seconds!


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭shanevendrell


    Just as a matter of interest how many roughly seemed to be receiving second failures?

    Remember a previous FOI staying only 4 people had failed at PCA stage which I just can't believe is true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Just as a matter of interest how many roughly seemed to be receiving second failures?

    Remember a previous FOI staying only 4 people had failed at PCA stage which I just can't believe is true.

    I think in our bunch yesterday 4 at the most failed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Just as a matter of interest how many roughly seemed to be receiving second failures?

    Remember a previous FOI staying only 4 people had failed at PCA stage which I just can't believe is true.

    Hard to tell; maybe 5 or 6 didn't pass yesterday. There's another session to catch those that deferred their original date.

    Also quite a few folk never returned after their initial test. Maybe time for another FOI!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    I think in our bunch yesterday 4 at the most failed!

    Probably more accurate; I was still in shock at passing lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Probably more accurate; I was still in shock at passing lol

    Homer I don't think I'll ever get over the shock of it!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭shanevendrell


    Interesting, thanks for the replies.

    I remember seeing in the past that 1 in 4 people exited at the PCA stage but that was back in the push/pull days. Then when a FOI from a few months back said that only 4 had failed their PCAs was quite interested to know if that was true too.

    Gives hope to lower scorers when you see that people have failed/failed to show.


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