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Differences between Clearo and Atty

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  • 03-12-2013 12:14pm
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    Pique
    Registered Users Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭


    hi Guys,

    I'm considering taking my relationship with vaping to the next level:o

    I was looking through the Fasttech site and saw these 2: AGA-T2 and Kraken Genesis.

    How much different are they really from a BCC like the Protank2 ?
    Is rebuilding hard?
    What do I need?

    How does the tank work? I see no wick down the tank. Do you need to invert it to work?

    Go on lads, educate me before I cheat on my Clearos for the one that everyone's talking about but is high maintenance.


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    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    With the genesis type attys, you make the wick and coil your self. You can use silica, wool or stainless steel mesh, which you then wrap a coil around and slide it through a hole in to the tank.

    YouTube has loads of videos on how to do this.


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    Pique
    Registered Users Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Pique


    Cheers Fred.

    Is there any real difference betweeen the 2 I linked to ?

    What is the difference between those and a clearo, vape-wise?
    Are they THAT much better ?


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    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Pique wrote: »
    Cheers Fred.

    Is there any real difference betweeen the 2 I linked to ?

    What is the difference between those and a clearo, vape-wise?
    Are they THAT much better ?

    I've not tried one yet, but apparently there is.

    How much and if it's worth the extra hassle I guess is down to the individual.


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    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Huge difference in taste.

    Some can't abide the FAFF with mesh but cotton is a great workaround. Best thing about mesh is you don't have to rebuild for aeons.


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    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Have no idea why faff capitalised there... Is there an organisation called FAFF?


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    #7
    Pique
    Registered Users Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Pique


    Federation of Atomisers (Fiddly Feckers)


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    Waterford vaper
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    Hi all, I'm also in in the same boat as Pique, looking to delve further into the dark world of vaping. I am looking into buying the RSST . I know I would need some wire to make a coil and some wicking material, probably mesh. Any recommendations. I have a provari in the post, would the ohm checker on that be ok for checking the resistance or is there a chance I could fry the device? Any advice appreciated. Thanks


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    grindle
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    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/mesh.htm
    (500)

    http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/kanthalrib.htm
    (Every 1cm = 0.3ohm so a 5cm length = 1.5ohms)

    That mesh is enough for the vast majority of people but if you want to reliably push the wattage on a single coil to 15w and above get this rope and an excellent pair of snips (or a shitty pair of snips and a hammer).
    You have to use a small bit of mesh where the coil goes as a sleeve but the wicking is incredible with rope.

    Your ProVari will be fine for measuring resistance.

    You either need a torch for oxidising the mesh or a mech mod and a little patience to use the pulse method.


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    Ionised
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    If you want try ss rope as a wick pm me your address and I'll throw a few bits in the post to you.
    Just let me know how long you want them.
    I bought 5m of rope a while back which will last me several lifetimes!


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    Waterford vaper
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Waterford vaper


    Thanks for the info lads, really appreciate it. Just looking for info on wire now. What's the difference between all the different types, from kanthal wire to kanthal ribbon, and the different gauges. I presume I will have to make medium to high resistance coils for the provari as the lowest setting is 3.3.


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    Waterford vaper
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    Cheers for the offer man, when I know what setup I'm going to go for ill get back to you.


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    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Waterford vaper wrote: »
    What's the difference between all the different types, from kanthal wire to kanthal ribbon, and the different gauges. I presume I will have to make medium to high resistance coils for the provari as the lowest setting is 3.3.

    Kanthal ribbon = better coverage of the wick and less likely to have issues when building like hotspots.

    Smaller gauge = higher resistance but less coverage and ability for high wattage (tastes burnt quicker).

    Your ProVari will handle anything over 1.2ohms so the wire I linked is perfect.


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    Ionised
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    I prefer ribbon on genesis atties as it is easier as per the previous poster.

    It's all personal preference though so maybe get some ribbon and some wire (it's cheap after all) and experiment a little.

    Don't be suprised if at some point you feel like hurling your device out the window... We've all been there!


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    eeloe
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    Waterford vaper wrote: »
    Thanks for the info lads, really appreciate it. Just looking for info on wire now. What's the difference between all the different types, from kanthal wire to kanthal ribbon, and the different gauges. I presume I will have to make medium to high resistance coils for the provari as the lowest setting is 3.3.

    You must be after getting a pretty old provari if it's lowest setting is 3.3v.


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    Waterford vaper
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Waterford vaper


    Ionised wrote: »
    I prefer ribbon on genesis atties as it is easier as per the previous poster.

    It's all personal preference though so maybe get some ribbon and some wire (it's cheap after all) and experiment a little.

    Don't be suprised if at some point you feel like hurling your device out the window... We've all been there!

    Cheers, I ordered some of the 2 wires, like you said experiment. I'll make sure to send you a msg before I fire the atty off the wall!! Or a picture after I throw it!!


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    Waterford vaper
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    eeloe wrote: »
    You must be after getting a pretty old provari if it's lowest setting is 3.3v.
    I know I'm new to this whole mods and rebuilding, but if you go to the provape website it states the provari v2 ranges from 3.3v to 6v. And as far as I'm aware the v2 is the newest provari on the market. Unless you have some special workaround that allows you to change these settings.


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    Ionised
    Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Ionised


    Well my Provari goes from 2.9v to 6v.

    I have no idea which version I have as got it from one of the lads here.

    **Edit**
    Quote from provape site : you can adjust the voltage from 2.9 - 6.0 volts in 0.1 volt increments.


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    eeloe
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    Waterford vaper wrote: »
    I know I'm new to this whole mods and rebuilding, but if you go to the provape website it states the provari v2 ranges from 3.3v to 6v. And as far as I'm aware the v2 is the newest provari on the market. Unless you have some special workaround that allows you to change these settings.

    The very early v1 provari was 3.3-6

    The v2 was 2.9-6

    The 2.5 is the same as the v2, just with a slightly different body design....


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    Waterford vaper
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Waterford vaper


    Ionised wrote: »
    Well my Provari goes from 2.9v to 6v.

    I have no idea which version I have as got it from one of the lads here.

    **Edit**
    Quote from provape site : you can adjust the voltage from 2.9 - 6.0 volts in 0.1 volt increments.

    Nice one, but I think pro vape need to change the video on their site. Waiting impatiently for my vape mail at this stage. Will know for sure when it arrives.


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