Project CARS

Dcully

Blinked_Missed It wrote: »

Oh sorry my bad. Ahh sure thumbs to both of ya

Just for the G25/G27 users like yourself keep an eye on this RD thread posted by Bram the owner of RD. Its reserved for the best settings for the G series with PCars which are being posted this week. http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/project-cars-logitech-g25-g27-settings.105555/#post-2001702

Yep im watching that closely, i know Bram over on RD

Pac1Man

Guys regarding the motion blur, are you referring to the blur that occurs when approaching a corner but then disappears on the straights? If so, that option can be turned off.

I'm a control pad user with the PS4 version. Loving it so far however it is almost impossible to catch a slide while using the pad which is disappointing. It means that most of the road cars are not worth the effort as they are more likely to get out of shape than the race cars. It would be interesting to hear what other PS4 pad users think on this.

Titzon Toast

Blinked_Missed It wrote: »

Love to but I'm not joking but I might be up a mountain from tomorrow onwards till around the time of the apocalypse and it won't be for fun (cryptic I know). Even if you were racing drunk with a head wand you'd probably still beat me.



We got that kind of treatment from Kunos, the devs of Assetto Corsa. They were out on the RD and GT Planet forums regularly as well as their own. Its very much a sim-world thing which you really don't see in AAA games these days. Passionate about their creation and all the better the titles become for it. Fair play to SMS for listening to the fans.


Just want to reiterate a post earlier from Titzon Toast on the Jack Spade FFB files. Seriously to all playing PCars with any wheel do not play the game without downloading and applying both the files and settings 1st. For consoles users while the files can't be used the settings apply equally to you guys. I played PCars for the 1st time tonight on PC (had it from release but have been very very preoccupied) and the FFB by default from my T500rs was the worst I'd ever felt in any sim.

Applied Jack Spades files and now I can feel the kerbs and the cars feel much more communicative. Night and day in game. No more floating and sudden breakouts without warning. Heres the link again but thumbs up should go to Titzon Toasts post earlier for bringing it to everyones attention. http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files

Ha! I was just about to post that link as well, fair play to that guy for sharing those settings.
This damn patch can't come quick enough, I'm gonna try my wheel going again tomorrow night, I need a race!

EDIT
Someone grouped them all together and shared them here, I downloaded the file and it all looks good.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?23893-Jack-Spade-s-FFB-Tweaks

I use my phone to browse the interwebs, that's supposed to be a link up there, sorry!

Mc Love

In two minds about getting this game after reading that bad review from pretendracers. Is the blur bad enough to make you stop playing?

jayo26

Mc Love wrote: »

In two minds about getting this game after reading that bad review from pretendracers. Is the blur bad enough to make you stop playing?

I'm on pc and I haven't noticed the blur and there is an option to turn it off on pc I'm not sire about consoles.
Id recommend the game yhh its not perfect but it is a great base to build off and if they keep improving all of the faults then its going to be around for years.

Dcully

jayo26 wrote: »

I'm on pc and I haven't noticed the blur and there is an option to turn it off on pc I'm not sire about consoles.
Id recommend the game yhh its not perfect but it is a great base to build off and if they keep improving all of the faults then its going to be around for years.

From what I can gather this blur issue is on ps4 and its forced on,silly idea.

jayo26

Dcully wrote: »

From what I can gather this blur issue is on ps4 and its forced on,silly idea.

Is it from all camera angels mate or is it just the in helmet cam?

I need invest in a new graphics card I've decided.

v3ttel

Pac1Man wrote: »

Guys regarding the motion blur, are you referring to the blur that occurs when approaching a corner but then disappears on the straights? If so, that option can be turned off.

That's just in helmet cam, where it auto-focuses, based on where you eyes would naturally be looking.

The motion blur is completely different and I noticed it when using a couple of different camera (I can't say if it includes all of them or not). It's more like "judder" than blur. The motion just isn't smooth as you expect.

A screenshot gets taken every time you get a trophy. I got one in the karts, and it shows a nice example of the blur. I'll post it up later when I'm in front of the console.

Mc Love wrote: »

In two minds about getting this game after reading that bad review from pretendracers. Is the blur bad enough to make you stop playing?

Not bad enough to make me stop playing, but very off-putting at the start.

I'd be fairly aware of any sort of extra picture processing effects though. I can't watch Netflix on my Smart TV because it uses a weird motion setting (which can't be disabled in the app), that drives me nuts. My other half can't even notice it at all.

jayo26 wrote: »

Is it from all camera angels mate or is it just the in helmet cam?

I need invest in a new graphics card I've decided.

I bought this for my new build over Christmas. It's pricey (thankfully I had a load of vouchers), but it's a fantastic card. I can play any game on ultra with no problem. It probably won't have to be replaced for a good few years.

Dcully

jayo26 wrote: »

Is it from all camera angels mate or is it just the in helmet cam?

I need invest in a new graphics card I've decided.

I dont know mate, im going by what ive read on forums at RD,No Grip,GT Planet, SimHQ,official forums.
It seems the blurring is constant on PS4 regardless of camera view, afaik its not being confused with the depth of field blurring effect from the helmet cam, this ofcourse can be turned off on pc, not sure about the consoles.

As regards graphics card i bought an EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0,im running the game everything ultra @ 2560X1080 resolution on an
LG Flatron 29UM65-P (29") UltraWide Monitor and it runs great even with 45+ ai cars onscreen.

Dcully

Ive read countless reviews,blogs forums etc about the game ,literally spent hours upon hours doing so and enjoyed most of it but this review is by far the best of them all, well written, hugely informative and deep.
Goes a long way to explain why most PC sim racers still prefer the physics of Assetto Corsa,Iracing and GSCE and explained a lot better than i could ever do.

Please note this is not a dig at PCARS, im having a blast with it i really am especially since i got my ffb better than out of the box at day one,im delighted i bought it.
I offers me a great means of getting my sim racing fix with race weekends and careers with a wide range of weather effects and day/night racing cycles that no other sim can offer but for that feeling i want to really feel like im driving a race or road car nothing comes close to AC,GSCE or iracing to me [sorry to repeat myself :P]

Great read for any sim or racing game fan.
http://www.atomicsimracing.net/reviews/project-cars-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

Great time to be a simracer
All these great sims, add in dirt rally and what else could one need?

jayo26

v3ttel wrote: »

That's just in helmet cam, where it auto-focuses, based on where you eyes would naturally be looking.

The motion blur is completely different and I noticed it when using a couple of different camera (I can't say if it includes all of them or not). It's more like "judder" than blur. The motion just isn't smooth as you expect.

A screenshot gets taken every time you get a trophy. I got one in the karts, and it shows a nice example of the blur. I'll post it up later when I'm in front of the console.



Not bad enough to make me stop playing, but very off-putting at the start.

I'd be fairly aware of any sort of extra picture processing effects though. I can't watch Netflix on my Smart TV because it uses a weird motion setting (which can't be disabled in the app), that drives me nuts. My other half can't even notice it at all.



I bought this for my new build over Christmas. It's pricey (thankfully I had a load of vouchers), but it's a fantastic card. I can play any game on ultra with no problem. It probably won't have to be replaced for a good few years.

Yhh ill be going for the 970 also mate but I may upgrade my mobo and psu first too but I should do it for about 450 all in. I was considering selling my ps4 to fund it as I haven't turned it on in months but I'm in two minds about it as I have alot of moneys worth of games linked to my psn account that I cant sell with it so not sure what route ill go.

Titzon Toast

jayo26 wrote: »

Is it from all camera angels mate or is it just the in helmet cam?

I need invest in a new graphics card I've decided.

The head of SMS said yesterday on their forums that they are going to introduce an option to turn that effect off for the PS4 very soon.

jayo26

Titzon Toast wrote: »

The head of SMS said yesterday on their forums that they are going to introduce an option to turn that effect off for the PS4 very soon.

That makes sense i suppose, im kinda glad i went with pc now.

Dcully

@ jayo26 review of my 970 if your considering a purchase.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67958-evga-geforce-gtx-970-ftw-acx-2-0-review.html

jayo26

Dcully wrote: »

@ jayo26 review of my 970 if your considering a purchase.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67958-evga-geforce-gtx-970-ftw-acx-2-0-review.html

Cheers mate ill have a read, ive been a full time lurker on the pc building forum now for a while so i think ive just about covered all of them at this stage haha, the reviews of them despite the stupid memorey issue are really good and id reckon in another couple of year if ya needed more grunt ya could pick up another second hand one and set them up n sli and will stll beat most of whats there In the future.

jayo26

Dcully wrote: »

@ jayo26 review of my 970 if your considering a purchase.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67958-evga-geforce-gtx-970-ftw-acx-2-0-review.html

Where did you purchase yours from? That's a good review o see it is priced at 395 from hwvs.

Dcully

jayo26 wrote: »

Where did you purchase yours from? That's a good review o see it is priced at 395 from hwvs.

The socalled ram issue is a non issue unless your running at huge res,either way still a great card, i bought mine from overclockers, 2 day delivery.

jayo26

Dcully wrote: »

The socalled ram issue is a non issue unless your running at huge res,either way still a great card, i bought mine from overclockers, 2 day delivery.

Ahh yhhh i know it got blown out or proportion,

Not meaning to put the thread off track here but ill definitley keep my eye out for that one when im buying. Cheers for that.

.G.

Keep an eye on pixmania too jayo. I got my gigabyte 970 from there and it was on offer so was 50 cheaper than anywhere else at the time.

jayo26

superg wrote: »

Keep an eye on pixmania too jayo. I got my gigabyte 970 from there and it was on offer so was 50 cheaper than anywhere else at the time.

Will do man thanks for that, i ordered my mobo and psu there now i felt inspired i might just bite the bullet and get rid of the ps4 when im at it i know i wont bother with it much when i get my rig set up properly.

v3ttel

Two screenshots of the weird blur/judder on PS4, but I'm actually getting used to it at this stage:




Look at the nVidia sign on the first screenshot and the kart on the right hand side of the second. I've also noticed a few other strange graphical things. Racing around Brands Hatch in the RUF in cockpit camera, it's almost like there are contour lines everywhere. It's really strange and much more annoying than the judder.

Also, is there a bug with pit stop setups? I seem to be unable to take fuel out of the car in most events, and end up carrying way more than I need (except in the Kart sprint races oddly enough). I tried to edit my pit stop strategy ahead of one race and it had created a weird one for me (the name was full of stars), that I had absolutely nothing to do with and never created:



One more thing, there seems to be a HUGE variation of lap-times from start to end of a qualifying session. I could be P1 after 5 mins of a 15 minute session with nearly everyone having logged a lap, but if I skip to the end of the session, I'll end up last by a big distance.

I'm not sure if it's AI drivers learning the track, fuel burning off, tyre temps, track evolution or a bug.

Titzon Toast

v3ttel wrote: »

Two screenshots of the weird blur/judder on PS4, but I'm actually getting used to it at this stage:




Look at the nVidia sign on the first screenshot and the kart on the right hand side of the second. I've also noticed a few other strange graphical things. Racing around Brands Hatch in the RUF in cockpit camera, it's almost like there are contour lines everywhere. It's really strange and much more annoying than the judder.

Also, is there a bug with pit stop setups? I seem to be unable to take fuel out of the car in most events, and end up carrying way more than I need (except in the Kart sprint races oddly enough). I tried to edit my pit stop strategy ahead of one race and it had created a weird one for me (the name was full of stars), that I had absolutely nothing to do with and never created:



One more thing, there seems to be a HUGE variation of lap-times from start to end of a qualifying session. I could be P1 after 5 mins of a 15 minute session with nearly everyone having logged a lap, but if I skip to the end of the session, I'll end up last by a big distance.

I'm not sure if it's AI drivers learning the track, fuel burning off, tyre temps, track evolution or a bug.

That's a fairly big list of fairly comprehensive problems if you ask me.
I hadn't actually seen any of that blurring before because I haven't played the game properly yet, it looks terrible.
This game looks like it's riddled on the PS4, the amount of bugs being reported on their forums is unbelievable.

.G.

Noticed those contour lines myself on the PC version while karting. Any building beside a track has them.

v3ttel

Has anybody tried the Pagani Huarya event at Monza in the second season of career mode (in the zero to hero path). On lap one of the race, on the back straight before Parabolica it says "mechanical fault - engine blown". Is this scripted? Restarted and it happened again at the same point. The second time around I was making sure to short shift before red but it still happened.

v3ttel

Titzon Toast wrote: »

I can't wait to jump online with a load of the lads posting away here. Even doing some practice laps together would help us all dial in our tuning settings and what not on the fly.

Count me in for that even though I can pretty much guarantee I'll be last by a country mile.

Titzon Toast

v3ttel wrote: »

Count me in for that even though I can pretty much guarantee I'll be last by a country mile.

I don't know about that, you'll probably have a couple of weeks practice over me by the time I get to play this game.

Dcully

Thought it best to list the most well known bugs the game currently has, taken from the review i linked earlier.

.Skipping sessions in career mode can sometimes lead the AI to set impossibly quick laptimes.

.Some cars clip under the surface of the track at bumpy circuits and cause weird invisible wall effects (noticed this at - Spa at the end of the long straight before Les Combes especially)

.Corner cutting is basically unpunished in career mode and corner extending online is never penalised.

.Taking pit stops can sometimes lead to 5 second slow down penalties at the end of pit lane due to the game thinking you cut the track

.Ability to jump start by up to half a second before the lights go green without penalty

.Sometimes when starting races your car continues to roll without input from you causing unintended jump starts (namely an issue on downhill main straights)

.Multiplayer lobbies disappearing and reappearing without notice in the listing
Spectator mode not handling laggy cars effectively at all online

.The race engineer (voiced by former Stig Ben Collins) often says weird irrelevant things to you while driving and can sometimes be silent at moments when you need information (no game ever seems to get this right)

.Game crashes with an “unhandled exception error” occcurring at random moments. Seems to occur mostly on the Zolder track online.

.Infinite load times eventually leading to game crashes randomly
Performance issues on PCs and consoles. AMD CPU and GPU owners beware!

To add to that ive myself found open wheelers display a reflection of rear braking lights under breaking yet they dont have break lights :rolleyes: seriously wtf apparently this was pointed out over 2 years ago and still not fixed.

Also if you start in a wet race with everyone on wet tyres and rain stops and tracks dries off, ai can still post identical times with wet tyres on a dry track and suffer no tyre wear, likewise they start on dry tyres it rains they stay out and still do dry tyre times, lol.

Makes you wonder how this got out with 80,000 testers/backers and 4 years of development.

Pac1Man

Another issue I've found is when upshifting or downshifting, it sometimes skips a gear. This means that you are in a gear to high going slowly or you over rev the engine when downshifting and it blows.

Turning off mechanical failures is a temporary solution but I would still prefer it to be fixed.

Dcully

jayo26

Mmmmmmm I love beemers

KevinMunster12

Just cant get used to the controls, the cars are very hard to handle. Playing on ps4. Changed to setting 2 in controller settings but I can still barely make a lap without spinning out. Gonna trade it in tomorrow and wait for forza 6!

peteeeed

played a quick race last night as it was downloading fully on my xbox one. the other drivers seemed to have a personal vendetta against me , one rammed me off the track and continued to ram me until we hit a wall . i kinda like that when you hit another car you don't push through them . steering will take some getting used to but overall i liked it so far . i'll start the career tonight

jonerkinsella

I just spent the last two days mopping up trophies on the PS4 version. For " The Exorcist " trophy ,I used the DS4 controller ,played , Brands Hatch Indy ,Touring, Merc 180 Tc (I think...the 80s 0ne) and then chose the last position on the leader board that I could DL a ghost car for, that was 28th on the world ranking for the above settings...I was just messing to see how hard it was going to be. I got 19th on the board after about 5 laps... Sweet.

Some of the trophies are pi$$ easy when you know how . As usual I visit here for tips,

http://www.playstationtrophies.org/forum/project-cars/

GavRedKing

Playing it the last few days on PS4 with a controller and doing career mode, I'm playing on normal but ive up the AI driving skill as on 50% it was too easy, put it to 100% and they of course make way less mistakes, makes the career mode much more difficult.

Before hand I was winning about 95% of the races all from pole, since the change its a challenege even getting a podium place.

I'm in my 2nd season of my career and on super karts now, until the tyres watm up theyre a bi*ch to control but on bigger, wider tracks once they warm up you can set insane times.

Wouldnt mind doing a few online races with the PS4 players at some stage, my skill set isnt great though and I'd be towards the back end of the pack I feel but sire feck it, its all about fun.

PS4 username is in my sig too.

.G.

Down the bottom of the car setup screen it says "create or edit your setup and trouble shoot issues by asking your engineer" but how do you ask him about something?

jayo26

superg wrote: »

Down the bottom of the car setup screen it says "create or edit your setup and trouble shoot issues by asking your engineer" but how do you ask him about something?

It was the same in the pre-builds I don't think that feature has been finished yet mate.

Titzon Toast

I decided to set everything up last to try out some of the workarounds and settings posted on the SMS forums.
It went better than it did on day one but it still felt pretty terrible in places if I'm honest.
On the button configuration screen it was telling me to use the left stick to turn the car, not a good sign when you have your wheel connected!
I read online that they have the wheel issues on the PS4 fixed, and that they're just waiting to send it out.
I reckon this game is gonna be great, I can't wait to play it properly, in saying that though, two days and nights of having the house to myself again have been wasted just looking at it!
Back to Forza 4 for now...

.G.

jayo26 wrote: »

It was the same in the pre-builds I don't think that feature has been finished yet mate.

Sound Ta. Haven't breeze about car setup apart from tyres and fuel levels so I'll just stay out of there:D

Dcully

Slightly tweaked version of Jack Spades settings, soft lock added, file added to this link.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files

Titzon Toast

Dcully wrote: »

Slightly tweaked version of Jack Spades settings, soft lock added, file added to this link.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files

I don't seem to have those global settings mentioned in the PS4 section available to me, I definitely haven't seen a tyre force slider.

Have you raced online yet?

jayo26

superg wrote: »

Sound Ta. Haven't breeze about car setup apart from tyres and fuel levels so I'll just stay out of there:D

Yes I'm pretty much the same I haven't played proper Sims in years so I'm just getting used to racing lines and the tracks for a few weeks going threw career mode then I'm gonna go back threw it all again messing about with setups on a higher diffilculty level.

Jerichoholic

I really want to like this but a few things are really annoying me. Career mode seems to be racing against 19 of the exact same car each time. That was in the touring cars! Is there a way to fairly skip qualifying? I did about 3 laps, was coming 4th, so I thought that would be fine, simulate the rest yet ended up in 20th spot anyway. Also please tell me there's a quick race option in the online?I don't want to qualify for 10 minutes, ever.

jayo26

Hey lads for does of you using a pad for racing games how do you like to steer? Im using a ds4 and i find it really percise using the left analouge stick i hold it forwards or upwards and roll it left or right depending how much i need but i see some people like just the d pad which i could never do or just flick the stick left or rigt which works best for rally games mostly, anyway probably pointless topic but just curious has anyone mastered any other techniques.

Dcully

Emptybox review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtvFNKmS3qs

Rossi IRL

Got this there today(finally) for ps4, add me if ye like . Rossi-IRL

Gizmo55

jayo26 wrote: »

Hey lads for does of you using a pad for racing games how do you like to steer? Im using a ds4 and i find it really percise using the left analouge stick i hold it forwards or upwards and roll it left or right depending how much i need but i see some people like just the d pad which i could never do or just flick the stick left or rigt which works best for rally games mostly, anyway probably pointless topic but just curious has anyone mastered any other techniques.

Yeah I tried that too as I loved the controls in Moto GP 2, 3, and '06 on xbox and 360 and tried it in this. Left thumb kept getting knackered though, I'm obviously pushing up too hard. Will persevere though! I'm finding the steering with the One controller grand, would love a wheel though.

.G.

jayo26 wrote: »

Hey lads for does of you using a pad for racing games how do you like to steer? Im using a ds4 and i find it really percise using the left analouge stick i hold it forwards or upwards and roll it left or right depending how much i need but i see some people like just the d pad which i could never do or just flick the stick left or rigt which works best for rally games mostly, anyway probably pointless topic but just curious has anyone mastered any other techniques.

Using a DS3 at the mo and I steer same way I do in other games, on curves I do numerous constant flicks of the left stick the the desired direction until the car is headed where I want and on full on turns just hold it fully left or right. Binning it for a wheel asap though.

Gizmo55

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I really want to like this but a few things are really annoying me. Career mode seems to be racing against 19 of the exact same car each time. That was in the touring cars! Is there a way to fairly skip qualifying? I did about 3 laps, was coming 4th, so I thought that would be fine, simulate the rest yet ended up in 20th spot anyway. Also please tell me there's a quick race option in the online?I don't want to qualify for 10 minutes, ever.

Actually the more I play it it's far too sensitive that way. Back to flicking left and right.

Apologies Jerichoholic, i quoted the wrong post.

Gizmo55

jayo26 wrote: »

Hey lads for does of you using a pad for racing games how do you like to steer? Im using a ds4 and i find it really percise using the left analouge stick i hold it forwards or upwards and roll it left or right depending how much i need but i see some people like just the d pad which i could never do or just flick the stick left or rigt which works best for rally games mostly, anyway probably pointless topic but just curious has anyone mastered any other techniques.

Actually, the more I play it that way the controls are far too sensitive. Back to flicking left and right.

Titzon Toast

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?23235-Multiple-1-Leaderboard-Tune-Formula-A-Xbone-PC-PS4-n-wheel-Updated-Version2-tune