Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

ItsAnEasyGame

jeepers101 wrote: »

How can you say that when you don't even know what kind of sauce he put on it?

I heard him asking for lemon and herb with an extra hot flag...

loremolis

ItsAnEasyGame wrote: »

I heard him asking for lemon and herb with an extra hot flag...

Photo please.

Dtp1979

loremolis wrote: »

How much of a difference would it really make?

He's ridiculously fit so, apart from having to watch his weight cut, what harm would nandos chicken fo?

You obviously missed this thread a few weeks back

loremolis

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You obviously missed this thread a few weeks back

I've read it but don't believe most of it.

CatFromHue

From Norman Parke's FB

So fight night I weighed 167lbs, probably the lightest iv ever been for any of my fights with my heaviest being 175lbs, I weighed in 156lbs so put on 11lbs after weigh ins. Didn't ever feel over powered at LW but thinking I could make FW now. I know Some FWs that come back in at 170

Wow!

Mellor

CatFromHue wrote: »

From Norman Parke's FB
Wow!

What part is the "wow" for?

11 lbs is a fairly mild cut.

CatFromHue

the rehydrating to 175 and then thinking about making the cut to 145 is a wow!

Mellor

CatFromHue wrote: »

the rehydrating to 175 and then thinking about making the cut to 145 is a wow!

He rehydrated to 167lbs on saturday. 175 was probably ages ago, he won't get near that at FW.


He needs to be wary comparing pre and post IV ban cuts imo. They have definitely guys at FW and LW cutting 20lbs in the past. But no point comparing to them if they can't do it now without an IV.

evo2000

CatFromHue wrote: »

the rehydrating to 175 and then thinking about making the cut to 145 is a wow!

Mcgregors doing that... and is shorter than parke and he looks like death warmed up at weigh ins!

JustTheOne

When are the new rules in for Ivs?

Will conor have to dimwit differently for the aldo fight?

Thought I heard October.

Mellor

JustTheOne wrote: »

When are the new rules in for Ivs?

Will conor have to dimwit differently for the aldo fight?

Thought I heard October.

Yeah october. The ban is in place now

JJayoo

So if a fighter does use IVs and gets caught what realistically will happen?

El Guapo!

JJayoo wrote: »

So if a fighter does use IVs and gets caught what realistically will happen?

I'd imagine it'll be a fine for a first offence and bans for subsequent offences.

Lukker-

JJayoo wrote: »

So if a fighter does use IVs and gets caught what realistically will happen?

It'd be severe I'd imagine. USADA consider it a masking agent for blood doping.

The Clown Man

Lost my **** after the cookies.

Mellor

JJayoo wrote: »

So if a fighter does use IVs and gets caught what realistically will happen?

If tester walk in and see them with an IV in their arm, they'll have to pull the fight. If it turns up in a post fight test then they'll have to treat it like any other in-comp violation. First offense is 12-months. Maybe 6-9 months in certain circustances.

But I've said before, that I don't think that they have a reliable test for IV use.

Lukker- wrote: »

It'd be severe I'd imagine. USADA consider it a masking agent for blood doping.

Not quite a masking agent, but actually used in blood doping. As in high levels of plastic in the blood indicate that some of your blood was stored in IV bags at some point. At least that was their allegation with Contador.

By removing the IV bags they are removing a potential plausible excuse.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

If tester walk in and see them with an IV in their arm, they'll have to pull the fight. If it turns up in a post fight test then they'll have to treat it like any other in-comp violation. First offense is 12-months. Maybe 6-9 months in certain circustances.

But I've said before, that I don't think that they have a reliable test for IV use.


Not quite a masking agent, but actually used in blood doping. As in high levels of plastic in the blood indicate that some of your blood was stored in IV bags at some point. At least that was their allegation with Contador.

By removing the IV bags they are removing a potential plausible excuse.

Afaik, it can also be used to pump clean blood back in so it dilutes any substances down to acceptable levels. I'd be surprised if MMA fighters were using such advanced doping techniques though.

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

Afaik, it can also be used to pump clean blood back in so it dilutes any substances down to acceptable levels. I'd be surprised if MMA fighters were using such advanced doping techniques though.

I've heard that suggested too, but it doesn't really make sense. Afaik, blood tests are for substances that don't have on acceptable levels. eg The HGH test looks for exogenous HGH (originated outside their body), and amount detected is a fail. Unlike say, marijuana levels in urine, where there is a acceptable range.

That was the whole fiasco with Cung Le. He tested for high HGH, but that alone proves nothing so the ban was overturned. THe lab did the wrong test and tossed the B sample.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

I've heard that suggested too, but it doesn't really make sense. Afaik, blood tests are for substances that don't have on acceptable levels. eg The HGH test looks for exogenous HGH (originated outside their body), and amount detected is a fail. Unlike say, marijuana levels in urine, where there is a acceptable range.

That was the whole fiasco with Cung Le. He tested for high HGH, but that alone proves nothing so the ban was overturned. THe lab did the wrong test and tossed the B sample.

HGH yes but stuff like testosterone it could definitely dilute, Jon Jones springs to mind, one of his blood tests had his testosterone levels the same as a little girls.

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

HGH yes but stuff like testosterone it could definitely dilute, Jon Jones springs to mind, one of his blood tests had his testosterone levels the same as a little girls.

Testosterone is a urine test, not blood.
But it's still the same principle. They don't test for high/low levels. They test T/E ratio and for exogenous testosterone. Diluting the sample to a normal range won't mask that.

As for Jones, his test levels and T/E ratio were extremely low. But they proved it was natural. It's pretty common for level to dip like that during camp.

BOHtox

What exactly is IV and how does it work? It's some form of drip thing used in dehydration isn't it? After that I'm lost.

Mellor

BOHtox wrote: »

What exactly is IV and how does it work? It's some form of drip thing used in dehydration isn't it? After that I'm lost.

That's essentially all it is. An IV bag is just another name for a drip. It's used in MMA, as simply a fast way to rehydrate after dehydrating for the weigh-in. Fighters hook up a basic saline drip/IV to replace lost fluids.

DK224

Mellor wrote: »

That was the whole fiasco with Cung Le. He tested for high HGH, but that alone proves nothing so the ban was overturned. THe lab did the wrong test and tossed the B sample.

Seeing the way he looked as a 42 year old in the build up for that fight, that B sample probably melted the test-tube!!

BOHtox

Mellor wrote: »

That's essentially all it is. An IV bag is just another name for a drip. It's used in MMA, as simply a fast way to rehydrate after dehydrating for the weigh-in. Fighters hook up a basic saline drip/IV to replace lost fluids.

What does it pump in? Vitamins or blood or water? How can plastic end up in the blood too?

Devastator

Lukker- wrote: »

Afaik, it can also be used to pump clean blood back in so it dilutes any substances down to acceptable levels. I'd be surprised if MMA fighters were using such advanced doping techniques though.

Mellor wrote: »

I've heard that suggested too, but it doesn't really make sense.

I'm not sure about the diluting side of things but I was told many years ago that cyclists basically would take 1-2 pints(whatever they could manage) of good healthy blood out of their system when they felt at a peak in their physical condition and store the blood. Whenever it came around to a big race(eg tour de france) or when they were not feeling in good condition, they would cycle(boom boom!) some blood out of their body and replace it with their peak conditioned blood.

CatFromHue

Yeah that's what the cyclists used to do.

It wasn't about diluting but about giving them a boost.

MartyMcFly84

I am not an expert in this matter but according to the movie "The Program"

The IV's were often used to dilute the blood. So when a red blood count test was performed the extra red cells produced from taking EPO were not obvious and the red blood cell count would appear to be in normal levels.

Cyclists did a whole bunch of other stuff also, such as taking blood out and putting it back in before certain races or stages. Along with other PEDs.

The IV (intravenous) ban is aimed at stopping people from cutting crazy amounts of weight and also to prevent EPO users using IV's to hide their PED usage.

CatFromHue

The Clown Man wrote: »

Lost my **** after the cookies.

that's quite good

all types of movement, bowel movement, tectonic movement

:pac:

Davei141

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

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The IV (intravenous) ban is aimed at stopping people from cutting crazy amounts of weight and also to prevent EPO users using IV's to hide their PED usage.

No it isn't. It has nothing to do with weight cutting and everything to do with masking PED's.

MartyMcFly84

No it isn't. It has nothing to do with weight cutting and everything to do with masking PED's.

I am pretty sure they are both factors.