Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

Depp · 04-11-2015 9:17pm

sure theres no need to worry about that really, aldo is gonna beat him anyway hes more concerned with nightclub appearances, fighting giants and eating in resteraunts, no focus!

Mellor · 04-11-2015 11:34pm

Tigger wrote: »

last question how do they police the IV thing?

i'm referring to this in particular
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/for-ufc-fighters-the-ban-on-iv-use-is-coming-but-will-it-matter

I've said before that I'm not convinced they can police it. I'm aware they can test for plastic in the urine, ie the Contador case the article mentions. But what the article/USADA fails to mention is that that Contador was banned for the clenbuterol not the plasticizer as they couldn't establish a baseline.
So unless they've since agreed on one, I'm not convinced.

i suppose i should add i'm an analytical chemist so i understand testing and baselines etc but a lot of that article is bull imho you can orally re-hydrate and iv re-hydrate at the same time

That's the way I see it. It doesn't matter if oral fluids are just as good - maybe they are?. But using both is likely best by far. Plus, you can't drink in your sleep. That has to be huge IV benefit

Subcomandante Marcos · 04-11-2015 11:40pm

Mellor wrote: »

Plus, you can't drink in your sleep. That has to be huge IV benefit

Exactly.

It takes something like 72 hours to fully rehydrate after a weight cut. So every little extra bit you can get to add to brain fluid makes a massive difference. Even the psychological thing of "my brain fluid is that much better rehydrated because I got an extra 8-10 hours worth of fluid while I was sleeping compared to those chumps who only orally hydrate".

evo2000 · 04-11-2015 11:53pm

Mellor wrote: »

I've said before that I'm not convinced they can police it. I'm aware they can test for plastic in the urine, ie the Contador case the article mentions. But what the article/USADA fails to mention is that that Contador was banned for the clenbuterol not the plasticizer as they couldn't establish a baseline.
So unless they've since agreed on one, I'm not convinced.

That's the way I see it. It doesn't matter if oral fluids are just as good - maybe they are?. But using both is likely best by far. Plus, you can't drink in your sleep. That has to be huge IV benefit

I dont think they can police it either i rec its only a matter of time before its scrapped, same day weigh ins is the only job really.

Subcomandante Marcos · 04-11-2015 11:58pm

evo2000 wrote: »

I dont think they can police it either i rec its only a matter of time before its scrapped, same day weigh ins is the only job really.

I think same day invites too much chance of some idiot risking a big cut anyway. I reckon staggered weighins, one week out, 3 days before and day of would be the only way to stop being literally risking brain damage to "beat" the cut.

Mellor · 05-11-2015 12:16am

Lucas Hood wrote: »

I've seen John Kavanagh tweeting about Oral Ivs before the ufc dublin event. How do they work?

It's a brand of rehydration fluid, same as pedilyte, hydralyte, etc.

Gumbi wrote: »

Google "oral hydration vs iv hydration" and "oral hydration vs iv hydration severe". There are plenty of studies out there.

As above, its not a case of verses for me. Doing both has to be best. And keeping in going while you sleep has to be a bonus. They can still do it with a 50ml IV, but that smal might not be worth it.

evo2000 wrote: »

I dont think they can police it either i rec its only a matter of time before its scrapped, same day weigh ins is the only job really.

Mayweather used an IV post weigh-in (illegally) for the Pacquiao fight. USADA was aware of this at the time. He wasn't punished. And he was granted a TUE for its use, it wasn't granted until 3 weeks after the fight.

USADA/WADA don't really care about rehydrating.

Same say weigh-in is a terrible idea, it will lead to way more issues imo.
The best option imo is a weight gain limit as they use in boxing sometimes, or like they use in judo. They imposed it on Rumble once, why not make it the rule.

Fromvert · 05-11-2015 1:18am

Mellor wrote: »

It's a brand of rehydration fluid, same as pedilyte, hydralyte, etc.

As above, its not a case of verses for me. Doing both has to be best. And keeping in going while you sleep has to be a bonus. They can still do it with a 50ml IV, but that smal might not be worth it.

Mayweather used an IV post weigh-in (illegally) for the Pacquiao fight. USADA was aware of this at the time. He wasn't punished. And he was granted a TUE for its use, it wasn't granted until 3 weeks after the fight.

USADA/WADA don't really care about rehydrating.

Same say weigh-in is a terrible idea, it will lead to way more issues imo.
The best option imo is a weight gain limit as they use in boxing sometimes, or like they use in judo. They imposed it on Rumble once, why not make it the rule.

Agree same day weigh ins are an awful idea but fighters could just cut weight again to stay under the weight gain limit?

Fighters could still make a big cut and instead of concentrating on rehydrating fully/properly they're concentrating on keeping themselves under a certain weight.

Devastator · 05-11-2015 1:48am

Mellor wrote: »

The best option imo is a weight gain limit as they use in boxing sometimes, or like they use in judo. They imposed it on Rumble once, why not make it the rule.

I think something like that is the best option and it will stop figters from cutting so much weight. Have the weigh ins as normal day before but on fight day weigh each fighter again, maybe even hour or 2 before their fight, and they can not be more than 10%(for example) of their weight class over the weight type of idea.

Just needs an official and a set of scales backstage and it could be done quite simply.

Lukker- · 05-11-2015 3:02am

Noticed Gunni posted this on facebook.

Himself and Conor have been training with Ido Portal, who is a "movement expert".

He specializes in things like bodyweight exercises and mobility/agility/balance. Conor seems to be fairly influenced by him and uses his lizard entrance thing when entering the ring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BBk3Nvj9k

Subcomandante Marcos · 05-11-2015 3:09am

Lukker- wrote: »

Noticed Gunni posted this on facebook.

Himself and Conor have been training with Ido Portal, who is a "movement expert".

He specializes in things like bodyweight exercises and mobility/agility/balance. Conor seems to be fairly influenced by him and uses his lizard entrance thing when entering the ring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BBk3Nvj9k

Neither of them have actually trained with him, Conor just copied some of his movements.

CatFromHue · 05-11-2015 3:11am

Surprised he didn't get a splinter doing all that!

Lukker- · 05-11-2015 3:14am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Neither of them have actually trained with him, Conor just copied some of his movements.

Must be an impostor :P

Subcomandante Marcos · 05-11-2015 3:20am

Ah, then it's recent, because not long ago Portal said in an interview he'd never met McGregor but had seen Conor using his crocodile walk thing.

Mellor · 05-11-2015 5:43am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Ah, then it's recent, because not long ago Portal said in an interview he'd never met McGregor but had seen Conor using his crocodile walk thing.

It was yesterday, so recent enough I suppose.

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/661943907287212034

Tigger · 06-11-2015 10:43am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_dI4FtNbo

Devastator · 09-11-2015 12:05pm

Thought this might be of some interest after the recent debate. Sorry if already been posted. Its like little Daniel La Russo in the white fighting the big bad evil Cobra Kai guy in the black....except its BJJ and not a movie

(147 lb weight difference)

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2499966/Seen-a-bigger-weight-difference-in-BJJ/?&page=1

martyos121 · 09-11-2015 12:11pm

Devastator wrote: »

Thought this might be of some interest after the recent debate. Sorry if already been posted. Its like little Daniel La Russo in the white fighting the big bad evil Cobra Kai guy in the black....except its BJJ and not a movie (147 lb weight difference)

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2499966/Seen-a-bigger-weight-difference-in-BJJ/?&page=1

Wth? Johnny Lawrence was the GOOD GUY!

Devastator · 09-11-2015 12:16pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Wth? Johnny Lawrence was the GOOD GUY!

haha

I've seen a youtube video which I think you're referring too, hilarious!

martyos121 · 09-11-2015 12:18pm

Devastator wrote: »

haha I've seen a youtube video which I think you're referring too, hilarious!

If this is the video you're on about, you'd be correct:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXaittoXJog

Devastator · 09-11-2015 12:27pm

martyos121 wrote: »

If this is the video you're on about, you'd be correct:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXaittoXJog

haha no its not, although I have watched that show. This is the video I thought you meant.

WARNING :- Be prepared for your minds to be blown lol

jimmii · 09-11-2015 12:41pm

I now feel like my whole childhood was a lie.

Lucas Hood · 09-11-2015 12:46pm

They pretty much robbed the idea of that off Barney out of How i met your mother.

"Sport ball what's up with that .

evo2000 · 09-11-2015 5:46pm

Devastator wrote: »

haha no its not, although I have watched that show. This is the video I thought you meant.

WARNING :- Be prepared for your minds to be blown lol

i almost choked on my food "Mr,Mayogi local child batter"