Official Conor McGregor Thread (READ MOD WARNING IN OP)

ASOT

shrapnel222 wrote: »

definitely looks like a lot more muscle mass. Possibility that he doesn't move back down?

If he wins the belt I'd be fairly confident he won't move back down.

Gamb!t

Devastator wrote: »

So your saying because Pettis' punches didn't KO him nobody will(especially someone with proven punching power)? I can't remember the last time I seen Pettis KO anyone with punches....if I've seen it.

Not saying that at all.
I'm saying RDA can take a punch,he got clipped a few times as can Conor.

califano

Its unbelievable all the same that we have someone Irish being a UFC champion isn't it. I often wonder will Conor be a Sonia O'Sullivan type one off not to re-occur anytime soon. And are we even stopping to smell the roses.

scudzilla

Can someone with experience of weigh cutting answer me this, How much harder will it be now for Conor to hit FW after fighting at LW, i think it'll be pretty much the same but not 100% sure

Devastator

Gamb!t wrote: »

Not saying that at all.
I'm saying RDA can take a punch,he got clipped a few times as can Conor.

Using Pettis' punching power as a guage to whether RDA can take a punch isn't the smartest decision.

califano wrote: »

Its unbelievable all the same that we have someone Irish being a UFC champion isn't it. I often wonder will Conor be a Sonia O'Sullivan type one off not to re-occur anytime soon. And are we even stopping to smell the roses.

He may not be just an Irish 1 off! If can(will) be the s1st dual weight world champion. I think in 10 years time that will still be a very very limited club to be in. I'm "trying to smell the roses" which is why I wanted to goto the last fight and decided on going to the RDA fight aswell. Try to ride the wave while he's on top.


2 greats! Not just at winding up their opponents either lol
https://twitter.com/StevieCollinsJR/status/700294038038171648

Mellor

scudzilla wrote: »

Can someone with experience of weigh cutting answer me this, How much harder will it be now for Conor to hit FW after fighting at LW, i think it'll be pretty much the same but not 100% sure

If he just came out of the 145 title fight and jumped directly into a fight at LW. Then cutting back down to 145 would be the same as it always was.

But he's put on some mass by the looks of things. Which makes cutting down a lot harder, perhaps impossible. He'd have to shed that muscle to get back to 145.

Lukker-

He could only put on 1 or 2 pounds of muscle since the Aldo fight though because he was already close to his max muscle for his body weight then and that was only 2 months ago.

Looks to have put on a bit of body fat mainly to me, which isn't a bad thing and wouldn't be hard to shift.

JJayoo

Lukker- wrote: »

He could only put on 1 or 2 pounds of muscle since the Aldo fight though because he was already close to his max muscle for his body weight then and that was only 2 months ago.

This is incorrect

I think he's put on more muscle and abit of fat too, even there he's no real abs visible which would put him up above approx. 10% bodyfat maybe??

If the difference in size is hard earned muscle then he would have to catabolise it I think, which is not as easy as losing water etc and all the usual gunk for a weigh in. I'm no expert but that's my reading on it, so i'd say yes, could be harder to slip back to 145.

apparently after the aldo match, john Kavanagh said, "we never wanna make that weight again". could have been in jest but for dana white to say later, "conor is having trouble making weight" I think he's ready to sit at LW.

Plus he's a man like all of us typing here, and losing weight does take more out of you each time and gets harder to shift.

Like I said, I'll stand corrected cos there's maybe loads reading this who've done weight cuts for bodybuilding etc and would no more even Though weight cuts for performance athletics/combat sports is a different thing.

Lukker-

JJayoo wrote: »

This is incorrect

Elaborate.

py2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FOGVUX9W_M

EDIT: oops sorry, already posted.

califano

califano wrote: »

Its unbelievable all the same that we have someone Irish being a UFC champion isn't it. I often wonder will Conor be a Sonia O'Sullivan type one off not to re-occur anytime soon. And are we even stopping to smell the roses.

He is for sure a one off, i've been smelling the roses since the Brimmage fight!

I seem to remember Sonia losing to some roided chinese athletes and a roided romanian, lets hope RDA's strength and conditioning coach is the real reason for his very evident physical gains and we won't be calling him Roidial D-Boljos anytime soon!

Devastator

Lukker- wrote: »

Elaborate.

HAAAA pot, kettle n all that :rolleyes:

Deleted User wrote: »

lets hope RDA's strength and conditioning coach is the real reason for his very evident physical gains and we won't be calling him Roidial D-Boljos anytime soon!

pretty confident nobody will ever call him that even if he is ever caught :pac:

Dtp1979

Devastator wrote: »

HAAAA pot, kettle n all that :rolleyes:





pretty confident nobody will ever call him that even if he is ever caught :pac:

I'd bet my life on that too

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

Elaborate.

Lukker- wrote: »

He could only put on 1 or 2 pounds of muscle since the Aldo fight though because he was already close to his max muscle for his body weight then and that was only 2 months ago.

I'm not sure what Jayroo was getting at but this part stood out for me as being incorrect in two respects. So "muscle for his body weight" is essentailly leanness.
He's very lean, and probably about as lean as he would want to be. But it's entirely possible to be leaner. There's the whole ripped to pieces, bulging veins, single digit bf beyond that.
But also, we weren't really suggesting putting on more muscle at his bodyweight. It was that he's put on more muscle and let his bodyweight increase.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

I'm not sure what Jayroo was getting at but this part stood out for me as being incorrect in two respects. So "muscle for his body weight" is essentailly leanness.
He's very lean, and probably about as lean as he would want to be. But it's entirely possible to be leaner. There's the whole ripped to pieces, bulging veins, single digit bf beyond that.
But also, we weren't really suggesting putting on more muscle at his bodyweight. It was that he's put on more muscle and let his bodyweight increase.

I said he was close to being as lean as possible. He was perhaps the leanest we've seen him going into Aldo and as lean as he was ever going to be. My point was it's only been 2 months since the Aldo fight, at most he's put on 2-3 pounds(being generous) of lean muscle in that time frame, no where in my post did I mention mass.

The rest of the mass he's added is bodyfat, which he wouldn't have much trouble losing if needs be. It may well be he's walking around 7-8 pounds heavier then normal during a camp.

That extra 2 pounds of muscle might prevent him making the cut again, but Conor has been big before and come back down, he'd likely just need a longer camp. He has a 5 months before UFC 200 so if he doesn't beat RDA he'll most likely be facing Edgar/Aldo.

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

I said he was close to being as lean as possible.

I understood that.
I'm saying he isn't close to lean as possible.
He is nowhere near ridiculous bodybuilder/fitness models levels. Nor should he want to be. At that level performance suffers. Recovery suffers, etc

And as I said, even if he was as lean as possible at that weight, how does that limit the muscle he can build for this fight?

He was perhaps the leanest we've seen him going into Aldo and as lean as he was ever going to be. My point was it's only been 2 months since the Aldo fight, at most he's put on 2-3 pounds(being generous) of lean muscle in that time frame,

I agree that he was at lean as we've seen he. I don't see how that's related to how much muscle he can build.

It's been 10 weeks since the Aldo fight (12 weeks between fights). How much could be build in 10 weeks is highly varible. It could be 1-2lbs like you said, it could be more. It's certainly possible to build more with good genetics.

One study could show 2lbs in low responders, and 8 high responders.
Another shows 4lbs average without PEDs, triple that more with PEDs, etc etc

no where in my post did I mention mass.

eh?
I didn't mention mass either.

The rest of the mass he's added is bodyfat, which he wouldn't have much trouble losing if needs be. It may well be he's walking around 7-8 pounds heavier then normal during a camp.

That extra 2 pounds of muscle might prevent him making the cut again, but Conor has been big before and come back down, he'd likely just need a longer camp. He has a 5 months before UFC 200 so if he doesn't beat RDA he'll most likely be facing Edgar/Aldo.

There'll be fat added too obviously. It looks like more than 2lbs of muscle to me. Ultimately it's all speculation. Maybe he's added very little, maybe a lot.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

I understood that.
I'm saying he isn't close to lean as possible.
He is nowhere near ridiculous bodybuilder/fitness models levels. Nor should he want to be. At that level performance suffers. Recovery suffers, etc

Yes, I should have said he was close to as lean as possible to fight at. Any lower and his energy levels would be destroyed too.

And as I said, even if he was as lean as possible at that weight, how does that limit the muscle he can build for this fight?


I agree that he was at lean as we've seen he. I don't see how that's related to how much muscle he can build.

It doesn't affect how much muscle he can build, I was merely pointing out that much of the mass gained is likely body fat.

It's been 10 weeks since the Aldo fight (12 weeks between fights). How much could be build in 10 weeks is highly varible. It could be 1-2lbs like you said, it could be more. It's certainly possible to build more with good genetics.

One study could show 2lbs in low responders, and 8 high responders.
Another shows 4lbs average without PEDs, triple that more with PEDs, etc etc

I've had this conversation with sports scientists and personal trainers and the general consensus is that the longer you've been training the slower you put on muscle. Someone like Conor who has been training full time for 10 years would definitely fall under the long term bracket to me. He may well have put on a bit more but certainly not 8, unless he's on the viagra. :pac:

eh?
I didn't mention mass either.

Response to his total body weight has increased.

There'll be fat added too obviously. It looks like more than 2lbs of muscle to me. Ultimately it's all speculation. Maybe he's added very little, maybe a lot.

Exactly! That's what the forum is for after all

All that matters is he's fit and healthy at the end of the day and it looks like he's gonna have plenty in the tank on fight night.

StringerBell

Gamebred wrote: »

Where you going?

Fun little couple of trips coming up actually, heading to New York, on to Vegas for a bit then up to Canada to see some relatives and travelling cross the country, gonna fly home via Iceland to check out some of the scenery and another couple of places on the way back with a couple of days in Norway and then Sweden before finally coming back to Ireland via Copenhagen. Looking forward to it.

To clarify what I mean about how I'm going to miss your posts however, is that once a fighter has been beaten that confidence is never the same, the same boastful exhubarence will never return.

So, the day Conor is beaten, and you can no longer make those posts that I find hilarious for the most part, is going to be a sad one for me.

Gamebred

StringerBell wrote: »

Fun little couple of trips coming up actually, heading to New York, on to Vegas for a bit then up to Canada to see some relatives and travelling cross the country, gonna fly home via Iceland to check out some of the scenery and another couple of places on the way back with a couple of days in Norway and then Sweden before finally coming back to Ireland via Copenhagen. Looking forward to it.

To clarify what I mean about how I'm going to miss your posts however, is that once a fighter has been beaten that confidence is never the same, the same boastful exhubarence will never return.

So, the day Conor is beaten, and you can no longer make those posts that I find hilarious for the most part, is going to be a sad one for me.

You know hes lost twice before?


This gringo wont be laying a glove on him,if your confident bet your spending money.

StringerBell

Gamebred wrote: »

You know hes lost twice before?


This gringo wont be laying a glove on him,if your confident bet your spending money.

Ah since the oul hype train went into full swing and he started laying people out in the UFC, you knew that. He has built up this aura based on how quickly he has dismantled the ranks of the UFC, when it is gone it will be impossible to regain.

What did I say about RDA? Don't think I mentioned that fight at all

I think that will be a close fight for the record, I can't call it, really could go either way which makes it very exciting.

Gamebred

Gamebred wrote: »

You know hes lost twice before?


This gringo wont be laying a glove on him,if your confident bet your spending money.

I love your confidence and I hope to Jasus you're right. After all, Aldo hit him once and opened that dodgy stitched eye with one faltering shot. If this gringo does lay a hand on him, it will open again.

Devastator

I like Cowboy cerrone but sometimes I just can't help but think "F*** up you d***!" Why do this sort of online Q&A video session if you're going to get upset by the questions and pretty much threaten people who are asking the questions. I heard a few stories in the past about his antics when meeting fans and if fans call him on acting like a **** he threatens to hit them.

Anyway, he addresses the McGregor "quitter" claims and talks a bit about him in 1st few minutes. He gets upset with the fans, pretty easy to see his fake laugh with "haha you guys are funny" and his smile quickly disappears. I really wish someone would have asked him "Why are you running from Conor if you want to fight him?" lol, wind him up telling him he moved from 155 to 170 because he's scared Doubt it would have went down to well! Its the 1st time I've heard he has a liver problem(for someone who so openly drinks beer so often its surprising, also talks of drinking whiskey & jokes he's an alcohol), I knew he's had part of his stomach/intestines removed but never heard about his liver?

1 thing I thought was most surprising was the question if he ever used steroids and he answered "No, not that I know of"

http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/ckelleher/video-donald-cowboy-cerrone-responds-to-conor-mcgregors-quitter-insults/

akelly02

Devastator wrote: »

I like Cowboy cerrone but sometimes I just can't help but think "F*** up you d***!" Why do this sort of online Q&A video session if you're going to get upset by the questions and pretty much threaten people who are asking the questions. I heard a few stories in the past about his antics when meeting fans and if fans call him on acting like a **** he threatens to hit them.

Anyway, he addresses the McGregor "quitter" claims and talks a bit about him in 1st few minutes. He gets upset with the fans, pretty easy to see his fake laugh with "haha you guys are funny" and his smile quickly disappears. I really wish someone would have asked him "Why are you running from Conor if you want to fight him?" lol, wind him up telling him he moved from 155 to 170 because he's scared Doubt it would have went down to well! Its the 1st time I've heard he has a liver problem(for someone who so openly drinks beer so often its surprising, also talks of drinking whiskey & jokes he's an alcohol), I knew he's had part of his stomach/intestines removed but never heard about his liver?

1 thing I thought was most surprising was the question if he ever used steroids and he answered "No, not that I know of"

http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/ckelleher/video-donald-cowboy-cerrone-responds-to-conor-mcgregors-quitter-insults/

Just looked at it there and i was expecting a lot worse from your description tbh.

Gamebred

The funny thing is all these muppets that get onto the fighters on social media abusing them would lick their cracks if they seen them for a photo,Dustin Poirier being a prime example when he was here.

xtal191

I've always thought Cowboy Cerrone was a twat

Devastator

akelly02 wrote: »

Just looked at it there and i was expecting a lot worse from your description tbh.

yeah? didn't think(or intend) to sound that bad because overall I do like the fella and appreciate fighters who goto fight. He just does my head in at times and sort of seems bullying. He's a professional fighter, why threaten(or even say anything) about beating up fans? Its like Messi slabbering he could do more keepy ups than a fan, or Ronnie O'Sullivan saying he could get a higher break(only if he got paid enough lol) than a fan. They're supposed to!

Lukker-

I wouldn't be Cowboy's biggest fan but he has a point. Anyone who Conor trades verbal jabs with his fanboys flood QA's like this to troll.

Conor get's to talk sh*t because he can back it up and he actually gets in the cage and fights. He has an army of impersonators now that ruin loads of things like this which should be a genuine opportunity for fans to engage fighters.

All these fan boys wouldn't say a goddamn thing in person. There is no way Cowboy's response is bullying, in fact if anything it's the other way around, with people purposefully organizing and grouping up online to abuse him.

Lukker-

Aliens will dig this up in a few million years time and think Conor was some sort of warlord megalomaniac

Gamebred

He is a war lord,a god of unarmed combat in its purest form.