Keano Vieira documentary: mod warning post in OP and post #331

Dempsey

Tippex wrote: »

I wish someone would air the damned MUTV interview and let everyone decide if it was as explosive as has been made out. Never going to happen in my opinion (as long as SAF is involved anyway)

All copies were destroyed i thought

IamtheWalrus

adox wrote: »

Thought you were taking the piss but it seems not.


Strange.

Don't get me wrong, he did well to go that distance but it;'s not as good as made out. Had he shrugged off the tough Gunner's defence and remainied on his feet and scored, it'd be different. He deserves credit for getting so far with the ball though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI

IamtheWalrus

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, he did well to go that distance but it;'s not as good as made out. Had he shrugged off the tough Gunner's defence and remainied on his feet and scored, it'd be different. He deserves credit for getting so far with the ball though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI

I don't think you realize how hard that is to do. It doesn't look as fancy as goals by Messi/Ronaldinho/Ronaldo but it's just as good imo. He ran at near full pace with the ball at his feet running by numerous Arsenal players who looked actually shocked at how much pace he was running at them at that stage in the game then plowed it in the goal. One of the best goals in England in the last 20 years that's for sure & I say that as a Liverpool fan.

IamtheWalrus

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think you realize how hard that is to do. It doesn't look as fancy as goals by Messi/Ronaldinho/Ronaldo but it's just as good imo. He ran at near full pace with the ball at his feet running by numerous Arsenal players who looked actually shocked at how much pace he was running at them at that stage in the game then plowed it in the goal. One of the best goals in England in the last 20 years that's for sure & I say that as a Liverpool fan.

Care to settle this in a pub car park of your choice?

IamtheWalrus

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Care to settle this in a pub car park of your choice?

Settle what? A difference of opinion?

Rayne Wooney

Well that escalated quickly

Nerdlingr

Keane thought jumping in Van Nistelrooy's face was disgraceful but going out to hurt people including haaland was grand, just part of the job! Jaysus.

LiamoSail

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Keane thought jumping in Van Nistelrooy's face was disgarceful but going out to hurt people including haaland was grand, just part of the job! Jaysus.

Yea, football used to be great alright. Shame the easily offended metrosexuals with their arts degrees and mock outrage came along and ruined this sort of spectacle

Nerdlingr

LiamoSail wrote: »

Yea, football used to be great alright. Shame the easily offended metrosexuals with their arts degrees and mock outrage came along and ruined this sort of spectacle

Yeah, roaring in a person face is such bad manners. Up there with phones going off during press conferences.

DeanAustin

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Yeah, roaring in a person face is such bad manners. Up there with phones going off during press conferences.

I'm sure Andy D'urso would agree.

tayto lover

Never liked Keane, still don't.
Any player who could deliberately try to inflict injury on an unsuspecting player is not brave but is a coward..
A sheep in wolf's clothing.

Lovely Bloke

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Care to settle this in a pub car park of your choice?

amazing.

BNMC

tayto lover wrote: »

Never liked Keane, still don't.

I'm sure he'll be heartbroken when he hears.

Rayne Wooney

tayto lover wrote: »

Never liked Keane, still don't.
Any player who could deliberately try to inflict injury on an unsuspecting player is not brave but is a coward..
A sheep in wolf's clothing.

I wonder how many Arsenal players you dislike for the same reason?

Too Tough To Die

So... who was the better player?

seligehgit

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

So... who was the better player?

IMO it has to be Keano.

LiamoSail

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

So... who was the better player?

IMO Keane, but Edgar Davids was better then both

BNMC

LiamoSail wrote: »

IMO Keane, but Edgar Davids was better then both

Fcuking LOL

adox

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

So... who was the better player?

Keane.

tayto lover

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I wonder how many Arsenal players you dislike for the same reason?

I don't know of any who deliberately went out to break a player's leg and admitted it in a book afterwards.

LiamoSail

BNMC wrote: »

Fcuking LOL

Davids in his prime at Juve was an exceptional midfielder, did well at Barca too. He was far less effective later on in his career at Spurs

Rayne Wooney

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't know of any who deliberately went out to break a player's leg and admitted it in a book afterwards.

What are you on about lol

tayto lover

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

What are you on about lol

I answered your question.

eh i dunno

the_monkey wrote: »

This is getting rave reviews, is it availble on the ITV player ?

think rte are showing it next week.

Keane the better player for me but think both were over rated.

kryogen

tayto lover wrote: »

Never liked Keane, still don't.
Any player who could deliberately try to inflict injury on an unsuspecting player is not brave but is a coward..
A sheep in wolf's clothing.

Keane, a coward

Well that made me smile anyway

There is also a difference in going to hurt someone and deliberately trying to inflict injury on someone.

Still, back to the coward comment, brilliant

kryogen

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't know of any who deliberately went out to break a player's leg and admitted it in a book afterwards.

Link?

My mistake, since what you said never happened you wont be able to provide any proof.

Apologies

tayto lover

It is not brave to deliberately an unsuspecting player.
Only a coward would do that in my opinion.
What he did to Haaland was unforgivable and cowardly.

Rayne Wooney

tayto lover wrote: »

I answered your question.

It's a pity your answer lacks truth

Lucas Hood

Just watched it there. Very enjoyable.

Mr.Nice Guy

I thought this programme was brilliant. Reminded me of how epic United vs Arsenal clashes used to be. I thought both men came off well.

The_Kew_Tour

tayto lover wrote: »

It is not brave to deliberately an unsuspecting player.
Only a coward would do that in my opinion.
What he did to Haaland was unforgivable and cowardly.

People seem to forget why he went for Haaland.

Remember Haaland laughed when Keane was in agony in the floor(injury that had him out for 9 months)

Took 2 to tango.

davycc

Just watched it myself very very enjoyable insight imo...when it comes to who was the better player then its Keane who shades it by the smallest margin :cool:

PS When it came to the Halland incident he meant to hurt him back alright but NOT end his career or injure him that badly

tayto lover

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

People seem to forget why he went for Haaland.

Remember Haaland laughed when Keane was in agony in the floor(injury that had him out for 9 months)

Took 2 to tango.

But Haaland did not mention in a book that he deliberately injured Keane. He apparently accused Keane of lying on the ground faking injury whereas Keane wrote --

One of the key passages saw the United skipper admit that he set out to injure Haaland purposefully that day. "I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard," he wrote. "The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries."

I rest my case.

LiamoSail

tayto lover wrote: »

But Haaland did not mention in a book that he deliberately injured Keane. He apparently accused Keane of lying on the ground faking injury whereas Keane wrote --

One of the key passages saw the United skipper admit that he set out to injure Haaland purposefully that day. "I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard," he wrote. "The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries."

I rest my case.

You're failing to differentiate between setting out to injure someone and setting out to hurt someone. Keane, like many footballers was guilty of the latter, but not the former

kryogen

tayto lover wrote: »

But Haaland did not mention in a book that he deliberately injured Keane. He apparently accused Keane of lying on the ground faking injury whereas Keane wrote --

One of the key passages saw the United skipper admit that he set out to injure Haaland purposefully that day. "I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard," he wrote. "The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries."

I rest my case.

You rest your case, still not having backed up any of your claims.

Bravo my man, bravo.

tayto lover

LiamoSail wrote: »

You're failing to differentiate between setting out to injure someone and setting out to hurt someone. Keane, like many footballers was guilty of the latter, but not the former

Quite pedantic.

Blatter

tayto lover wrote: »

It is not brave to deliberately an unsuspecting player.
Only a coward would do that in my opinion.
What he did to Haaland was unforgivable and cowardly.

A cowardly act is one driven by fear. Keane's attack on Haaland that day could be described as a lot of things such as hateful and revengeful, but cowardly? No, doesn't fit the bill here for me.

tayto lover

Blatter wrote: »

A cowardly act is one driven by fear. Keane's attack on Haaland that day could be described as a lot of things such as hateful and revengeful, but cowardly? No, doesn't fit the bill here for me.

So if I deliberately injure someone who is not looking at me it's not cowardly? :rolleyes:

The_Kew_Tour

tayto lover wrote: »

But Haaland did not mention in a book that he deliberately injured Keane. He apparently accused Keane of lying on the ground faking injury whereas Keane wrote --

One of the key passages saw the United skipper admit that he set out to injure Haaland purposefully that day. "I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard," he wrote. "The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries."

I rest my case.

What does a ****ing book make his actions any worse.

At least he admitted the bloody obvioius

Mr.Micro

tayto lover wrote: »

But Haaland did not mention in a book that he deliberately injured Keane. He apparently accused Keane of lying on the ground faking injury whereas Keane wrote --

One of the key passages saw the United skipper admit that he set out to injure Haaland purposefully that day. "I'd waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard," he wrote. "The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries."

I rest my case.

This supports the case that keane set out to injure Haaland?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1050727/That-Keane-tackle-haunts-Haaland-horror-injury-2001.html

tayto lover

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What does a ****ing book make his actions any worse.

At least he admitted the bloody obvioius

That is not the point.
He committed a cowardly act on an unsuspecting player.

If Haaland had done that to me I'd probably have done the same as what Keane did tbh.

Not very professional but revenge is always sweet.

tayto lover

rarnes1 wrote: »

If Haaland had done that to me I'd probably have done the same as what Keane did tbh.

Not very professional but revenge is always sweet.

Sweet maybe, cowardly definitely.

bradlente

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I thought this programme was brilliant. Reminded me of how epic United vs Arsenal clashes used to be. I thought both men came off well.

Kind of reminds you how tame everything has gotten as well.

The_Kew_Tour

rarnes1 wrote: »

If Haaland had done that to me I'd probably have done the same as what Keane did tbh.

Not very professional but revenge is always sweet.

Exactly.

What Keane did was not right, im not for second saying it was.

But if you were in agony on the floor, helpless and somebody came over to you and laughed in your face what would anybody do.

I know I want to get him back. I have done it in past on field before and seen it happen plenty of times.

Keane was not the first or the last.

The_Kew_Tour

tayto lover wrote: »

That is not the point.
He committed a cowardly act on an unsuspecting player.

Its not cowardly when you hold hand up and admit it.

You seem to have your words mixed up.

Blatter

tayto lover wrote: »

So if I deliberately injure someone who is not looking at me it's not cowardly? :rolleyes:

Calling the act cowardly is implying he did it out of fear, is it not?

To me, he did it out of hatred and revenge. In fact, if you were to ask me to name a word that describes the complete opposite of what Roy Keane was about, I'd probably choose coward. He was a lot of things, but he definitely wasn't a coward.

tayto lover

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Its not cowardly when you hold hand up and admit it.

You seem to have your words mixed up.

It is cowardly to sneak up and injure a person who is not facing you or expecting the attack. If it happened on the street there would have probably been an arrest and a court case.
False acts are cowardly acts.
Putting your hand up later when the damage is done does not justify the attack.

kryogen

tayto lover wrote: »

It is cowardly to sneak up and injure a person who is not facing you or expecting the attack. If it happened on the street there would have probably been an arrest and a court case.
False acts are cowardly acts.
Putting your hand up later when the damage is done does not justify the attack.

You actually have never even seen the incident have you?

tayto lover

kryogen wrote: »

You actually have never even seen the incident have you?

Many times.