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China Rising Opinions?
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06-12-2013 12:04am#1
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Dreamers, is Dragon Pass anyway similar to Dragon Valley?
My opinion:
Before going 64 player I used to wonder why PC players didnt all love Armored Kill DLC cos I would have loved to try it and I guess I see why... i dunno, it just feels lacking somewhat. I cant put my finger on it, not bad, not great kinda thing.
Like to try it on Rush, say Rush will be good on those maps.
EDIT: thats if the game ever works again on PS4
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Its... okay. Silk road, oddly enough, may be one of the more playable infantry maps because they have cover from the vehicles most of the time and at least one flag to fight over.So the China Rising maps are... well, meh.
Well, maybe not meh, but I'm glad I didn't buy the digital deluxe option. They're not bad, don't get me wrong, even Silk Road which I was expecting would become the new operation firestorm until the old operation firestorm arrives to tick me off, but it turns out that infantry can actually stand a chance on the Silk Road map so long as you start on the Chinese side (on the US side, not so much unless you push hard and get to the central point). There's enough cover to make it interesting and the dirt bikes let you move around a bit more easily.
Altai Range could be good, but I spent one round fighting over the central point and it was a constant cycle of spawn, get one kill, get killed from behind, spawn (and that was when the cycle wasn't spawn, get killed during the blackout, spawn). And on another round, we got into an armour scrap over C and A and it was impossible to hold because the engineers on the other side could use the dirt bikes to get up above A and run down the mountain at you, the armour can't elevate guns enough to catch them and the infantry on A is getting pounded by the armour pushing up on it. Just not balanced.
Guilin Peaks looks stunning, but is crud to play in; yes, two people are having a great time having chopper dogfights amongst the peaks.... for all of the 30 seconds before the other 62 people fire ALL THE MISSILES at them. And as infantry, it's a lot of running before you get sniped from the top of the peaks (oh, and you can't easily shoot back because it's overgrown so you can't see targets but they can see you). The ultimate rooftop camping site. Not my favorite hour, that one.
Dragon Pass is pretty okay. There was a good mix of run&gun and vehiclecide in there, but it really is a teamwork map and this just isn't proving to be a teamwork game
All in all, good but not great.
edit: Oh, and the bomber? Utterly pants. It's like a rails shooter mini-game. You don't control the bomber, you get in a control trailer thing on the ground and it gives you a screen like the AC130 but not in black and white thermals, you mark points on the ground and it fires JDAM bombs at them (you get four and that's it). Boring. Do it, get one kill to unlock the SUAV, then meh, not interested.
I did try the air superiority game mode after that, thinking it might well redeem Peaks or the entire DLC. It didn't go so well...What is the point in an air superiority server that has more player slots than aircraft?Or air superiority using attack helos with no gunner seats instead of scouts?I could think of more tiresome boring things than air superiority servers flying jets in this game.
But I'd really have to work at it.
Still, assault jets all unlocked now. One or two more rounds and I'll have the assault helos unlocked and then I can put this game mode away and never destroy my head with it again.Finally! What a ridiculously messed up game mode. Who thought to take the underpowered, under-agile attack chopper and make that the air to air helo? Or to have levels that have rounds that last five minutes (literally, the game clock didn't make it from 60 to 55 minutes)?
What a complete and utter pain in the fundament...
(turned out that you could have gunners in the attack helos btw, just that nobody was jumping in as gunner because everyone wanted to fly...)0 -
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Don't understand all the hate for large maps & vehicles. We are playing Battlefield you know? This is what its all about. DICE got berated when BF3 got released that all of the maps are too small & too much like "Call of Duty". They then release larger maps & get berated by guys that hate vehicles & want smaller maps. How can they win?
Personally I have enjoyed the new maps, as a C4 whore bag they are great
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I don't mind large maps and vehicles, but if you've no chance as infantry, then you're not so much playing battlefield as you are tank commander.
(that's T-72 tank commander, not the online flash game )
Silk road, for example - tanks everywhere but cover everywhere too. I've had good runs on that as plain jane infantry, as well as in vehicles. But operation firestorm? Feck lad, if your ass wasn't in a vehicle (or a sniper ten miles from the action with a 50cal rifle), you had less chance of surviving than the tower does in Shanghai 0 -
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Feck lad, if your ass wasn't in a vehicle (or a sniper ten miles from the action with a 50cal rifle), you had less chance of surviving than the tower does in Shanghai
See that's where I think you are wrong. Myself & Majestic both played the ****e out of firestorm back in the day. Both of us on the ground as infantry blowing this **** out of tanks. It's an absolute blast to play as infantry against vehicles if you are support. Even engineer is decent enough0 -
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Gehad_JoyRider wrote: »can't seem to find china rising on origin?
It's in the premium only phase for another week or so.0 -
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Don't understand all the hate for large maps & vehicles. We are playing Battlefield you know? This is what its all about. DICE got berated when BF3 got released that all of the maps are too small & too much like "Call of Duty". They then release larger maps & get berated by guys that hate vehicles & want smaller maps. How can they win?
Personally I have enjoyed the new maps, as a C4 whore bag they are great
Nothing wrong with large maps, Firestorm is a good example of a large map done well. Well placed flags iwth enough spacing to keep the battle focused, you can go around if you play that way but ultimatley your going to battle within those flags.
Bandar is large done badly, too big, flags spaced out badly. Spawning on your only flag and theres no vehicles
I would bring the mountain into the desert making the flag L shaped with the the AIR flag being at the top of the mountain. But having the road curve rather than L or rather an inverted J 0 -
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