WC 2014 Brasil; Starts June 12th 2014

Smithwicks Man

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Thats the question alright, Ivory Coast look strong though and they have better individuals and they are due to qualify from the group stage, they should have too much IMO.

A fair assessment

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yaya Toure in Form will make sure they do. Gervinho hasn't been to bad for Roma as far as I remember? Kalou,Drogba,Bony. Very strong attack force. Should over run Japan. Also forgot about Doumbia.

Yep, Gervinho had a very good season and always plays well with the NT.

The heat shouldn't be as big of an issue to them either. Not sure about the humidity.

MaroonAndGreen

Do ye see Chile harming Holland and Spain? its a big issue for me and really its made me eliminate any betting on that group

Smithwicks Man

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Do ye see Chile harming Holland and Spain? its a big issue for me and really its made me eliminate any betting on that group

I think Chile will get 2nd to be honest.

Holland aren't as strong as many believe and Chile are flying. I know severals who are writing Spain off as potential winners which is foolish as they still have an elite group of players and their possession style should help to conserve energy in the heat.

I'd expect Chile to beat Australia, get at least a draw against Holland and possibly get a point off Spain as well.

MaroonAndGreen

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

I think Chile will get 2nd to be honest.

Holland aren't as strong as many believe and Chile are flying. I know severals who are writing Spain off as potential winners which is foolish as they still have an elite group of players and their possession style should help to conserve energy in the heat.

I'd expect Chile to beat Australia, get at least a draw against Holland and possibly get a point off Spain as well.

The thing with Holland is they breezed through their qualifiying group scoring lots of goals, Chile as far as I know needed a playoff to get to Brazil?

Smithwicks Man

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

The thing with Holland is they breezed through their qualifiying group scoring lots of goals, Chile as far as I know needed a playoff to get to Brazil?

Chile finished 3rd in the CONMEBOL behind Argentina and Colombia in what was a much tougher qualification process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONMEBOL)#Standings

Also, the loss of Kevin Strootman will be detrimental to the Netherlands and RVP isn't coming off the back of a good season either. Van Gaal is also out the door after this tournament.

In contrast, Alexis Sanchez has just had arguably his best season to date and Arturo Vidal is among the best midfielders in the world.

I'm not saying Chile will walk it or anything of the sort, I just feel that they have enough in them to edge out the Dutch.

Austria!

Chile came 3rd, didn't need a play off. Holland always do well in qualifying, they just don't have the players this year unless the young ones really step up. I think Chile will get 2nd. Beat England and unlucky to lose to Germany in the friendlies. I like them a lot.

Warper

Ivory Coast are another of those teams that flatter to deceive, they have never won the ACN despite having clearly the best squad. Have they ever reached the KO stage of a WC? Personally i am avoiding having any cash on African teams, they are impossible to predict. I have backed Japan to qualify from G3, fancy Colombia to top it.

Chile are very dangerous in Group B and i fancy them to get through with Spain also. If Spain beat the Dutch in Game 1 i feel the Dutch will bow out at the Group stages. Sanchez is absolutely awesome for Chile as he gets freedom he never does at Barcelona. Vidal is coming back from an injury but should be ok for the WC, he has to be for Chile's sake. If Spain falter, Chile could even top the Group and if they do they could make a mockery of the 50-1. If they finish second though they face Brazil and that would be that i feel.

FlawedGenius

looking at a top goalscorer bet at long odds, will Remy start for France??

CrabieCrawford

FlawedGenius wrote: »

looking at a top goalscorer bet at long odds, will Remy start for France??

Probably not, will be a front 3 of Ribery, Benzema, Valbuena

And he'll prob have to fight it out with Giroud for sub appearences

Colonialboy

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Another long shot I fancy is the straight forecast for 3 of the groups:

1st/2nd:
France/Switzerland
Argentina/Bosnia
Belgium/Russia

Comes in at 25/1 with PaddyPower, just stuck twenty on it there.

Obviously it's unlikely but as far as 25/1 shots go, it looks a very good one to me.

nice selection, I took them as a DUAL Forecast at 7/1 on PP
I think those teasm will be the ones to qualify from those groups, but couldnt be sure on the order...

Shanotheslayer

Not sure why so many people think Holland will cause problems. Take out RVP/Robben that team is very average. Chile could well stick it up to them.

inforfun

Not a secret that i am Dutch.... and i put a rather big stake on Holland not getting out of their group.

Reasons:
Bad H2H against Spain.
Bad H2H against Australia
Chile had a disaster of a start in their qualifying campaign but once they got their new manager, things started to go really well. Had he been involved from the start, i think they would have been topping that group.

And reason no 4 > Sneijder looks like he will play.

Fowler87

inforfun wrote: »

And reason no 4 > Sneijder looks like he will play.

Has been some turn around in fortunes for a player who was one of the best in the world 4 years ago and IMO (as had money on him ) should won the Player of the WC

Hotale.com

Does Kuyt still play for Holland?

bri007

Kuyt is in the squad but I don't think he starts, he will probably be on the bench

Shanotheslayer

Hotale.com wrote: »

Does Kuyt still play for Holland?

Shoudn't you be studying :pac:

Hotale.com

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Shoudn't you be studying :pac:

The disease has spread away from After Hours it seems

Shanotheslayer

Hotale.com wrote: »

The disease has spread away from After Hours it seems

Saw it last night, thought it was hilarious. Really hope it catches here :pac:

Hotale.com

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Saw it last night, thought it was hilarious. Really hope it catches here :pac:

I don't! :pac:

Nidgeweasel

Warper wrote: »

Personally i am avoiding having any cash on African teams, they are impossible to predict..

Quite easy to predict of late!

inforfun

Fowler87 wrote: »

Has been some turn around in fortunes for a player who was one of the best in the world 4 years ago and IMO (as had money on him ) should won the Player of the WC

All to do with his way of living. Too busy with his wife to act like the Dutch Becks and Posh.

Anyway

Most likely line up for Holland tomorrow vs Ghana

Taken fro ma website that has it right 95% of the time.

Shanotheslayer

I heard there Left Wing Back has terrible vision :pac: *gets coat*

fuzzydunlop85

inforfun wrote: »

All to do with his way of living. Too busy with his wife to act like the Dutch Becks and Posh.

Anyway

Most likely line up for Holland tomorrow vs Ghana

Taken fro ma website that has it right 95% of the time.

That team looks pretty ordinary. Wouldn't fancy Hollands chances of getting out of that group.

Shanotheslayer

Brazil or Argentina is 13/10 to win WC. But if You do Brazil Win at 3/1 and Argies E/W at 9/2 it would be better no?

Backstreet Moyes

Small acc for the group stages to win the groups.

Brazil 2/9
Argentina 2/9
Germany 4/7
Columbia 5/6
France 5/6
Italy 13/8

Backstreet Moyes

What do people think speical in PP is 13/1 for Chile to reach the semi's.

MaroonAndGreen

Nuts102 wrote: »

What do people think speical in PP is 13/1 for Chile to reach the semi's.

They have a tough group with Spain and Holland, and if they get through that they will more than likely play Brazil in the next round so....

DominicKid

i'd say im gonna waste €50+ on that group tricast market, do like €1.80 on 25 slips+
you can easily tell which groups will come 1st 2nd and 3rd:
germany portugal usa
belgium russia south korea
etc anyone going big on tricasts too?

Mezcita

Nuts102 wrote: »

What do people think speical in PP is 13/1 for Chile to reach the semi's.

20/1 at VCBet.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/chile/stage-of-elimination

Smithwicks Man

Mezcita wrote: »

20/1 at VCBet.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/chile/stage-of-elimination

That's for them to reach the semis and get knocked out.

Hotale.com

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

That's for them to reach the semis and get knocked out.

Which in fairness is the most likely outcome if they get that far...

Smithwicks Man

Hotale.com wrote: »

Which in fairness is the most likely outcome if they get that far...

It's still a different bet though?

The first one was for them to reach the semis at 13/1
The second was for them to reach the semis and then lose in the semis at 20/1

I do think they'll do well but they have a very tough draw. Getting out of the group will be a good achievement but beating Brazil (assuming they top group A) would be extremely impressive.

Backstreet Moyes

I must be the only one who just doesn't really rate Brazil that highly. I will throw a smell few pound on the Chile bet at 13/1.

Hotale.com

Nuts102 wrote: »

I must be the only one who just doesn't really rate Brazil that highly. I will throw a smell few pound on the Chile bet at 13/1.

I'm not a fan of Brazil either, although they're definitely better than the 2010 team, they were brutal.

neil.p.b

DominicKid wrote: »

i'd say im gonna waste €50+ on that group tricast market, do like €1.80 on 25 slips+
you can easily tell which groups will come 1st 2nd and 3rd:
germany portugal usa
belgium russia south korea
etc anyone going big on tricasts too?

By big do you mean a bunch of 20c bets? Then yes i am!! Forecasting all the groups works out at a min of 200,000/1 so will probably do about 100 combinations. Guaranteed way to lose 20e but it will make games like Russia .v. South Korea a bit more interesting!

Hotale.com

neil.p.b wrote: »

By big do you mean a bunch of 20c bets? Then yes i am!! Forecasting all the groups works out at a min of 200,000/1 so will probably do about 100 combinations. Guaranteed way to lose 20e but it will make games like Russia .v. South Korea a bit more interesting!

This sounds like fun!

Austria!

I've put Costa Rica, Hounduras and Australia in a to finish last acca. 1.87 @ Paddy power. I see Australia and Costa Rica as certainties.

SheldonC17

James Rodriquez top goalscorer 150/1 with bet 365

Could be Comobias top player if falcao isn't fit and had a good season himself.

MaroonAndGreen

SheldonC17 wrote: »

James Rodriquez top goalscorer 150/1 with bet 365

Could be Comobias top player if falcao isn't fit and had a good season himself.

Is Jackson Martinez a starter for them dye know?

Smithwicks Man

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Is Jackson Martinez a starter for them dye know?

He'll start if Falcao doesn't

Fowler87

Was gonna throw another bit on Dzeko top scorer to add to the 100/1 I got few months ago but seeing hes dropped to 50-60s in some places, gonna steer clear. Tempted by him to be the first player to hit a hat trick at 125/1 although Bosnia do play Argentina first

CrabieCrawford

Fowler87 wrote: »

Was gonna throw another bit on Dzeko top scorer to add to the 100/1 I got few months ago but seeing hes dropped to 50-60s in some places, gonna steer clear. Tempted by him to be the first player to hit a hat trick at 125/1 although Bosnia do play Argentina first

There aren't too many hatricks at world cups, Higuain v South Korea in 2010 and none scored in 2006.

Shanotheslayer

Why are Colombia so heavy favorites for there group without Falcao being a cert?:/

diomed

Winner Odds Stake Profit
Italy 30.56 206.99 6,117.65
Switzerland 200.00 11.00 2,189.00
England 30.33 45.00 1,320.00
Ghana 269.75 432.80 116,313.49
.
.
Golden Boot Odds Stake Profit
Asamoah Gyan 405.80 16.00 6,477.00
Wakaso Mubarak 804.20 11.94 9,590.06
.
.
Nominate Finalists Odds Stake Profit
Italy/Netherlands 320.00 10.00 3,190.00


Staked €733.73

bradlente

Just heard all 3 of Italys games are gonna be in sweltering conditions ,not only that but they're based in Rio,which is probably the worst place for them to be based in terms of where their games are,they'll have a ridiculous travel schedule.Its rumoured this is because one of the Italian delegations wife's wanted a beach where they would be based,really hope that's not true!

Hotale.com

diomed wrote: »

Winner Odds Stake Profit
Italy 30.56 206.99 6,117.65
Switzerland 200.00 11.00 2,189.00
England 30.33 45.00 1,320.00
Ghana 269.75 432.80 116,313.49
.
.
Golden Boot Odds Stake Profit
Asamoah Gyan 405.80 16.00 6,477.00
Wakaso Mubarak 804.20 11.94 9,590.06
.
.
Nominate Finalists Odds Stake Profit
Italy/Netherlands 320.00 10.00 3,190.00


Staked €733.73

:eek:

Good luck!

Austria!

Having watched Cameroon vs Germany, I think everyone has completely underestimated them. I put 50 on them to qualify @6, and I'll probably reback.

bradlente wrote: »

.Its rumoured this is because one of the Italian delegations wife's wanted a beach where they would be based,really hope that's not true!

Of course not. It will be due to a bribe.

Azza89

Personally fancy Lukaku to do something this year, and at 33/1 he's very tempting.

Austria!

Me too. Backed him for top belgian scorer @3. A good lone striker in a group where they should get a few and Belgium don't have many others to knock them in. Considering putting some on for tournament top scorer too. My only consideration is that a team that gets to the semi final gets 2 extra games over the team that only gets to the quarter final.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/belgium/top-goalscorer

SheldonC17

Ronaldo, RVP, Lukaku, Dzeko all to top be goal scorer for their countries @23/1