Gameweek 16 Transfers.

JR6

PARlance wrote: »

Fulham were decent against Villa, Kasami playing for an in form team might be useful, if it's just to tidy up the bench, I'd bank the FT.

Yeah but i have two free and he didn't start against Villa. Sidwell came in for him and scored. Reckon he could be dropped to the bench for a while.

PARlance

JR6 wrote: »

Yeah but i have two free and he didn't start against Villa. Sidwell came in for him and scored. Reckon he could be dropped to the bench for a while.

Didn't realise you had 2 FT's, Redmond is good, if you feel like a gamble then Ireland at 4.6 was good from the small bits I've seen of him, I think he'll start to get his place and expect Stoke to have a bit of a run of form.

They have relatively decent fixtures till the end of Jan (but the easier ones are away from home so not ideal if you're rotating him in)

Hull City (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Newcastle (A)
Tottenham (A)
Everton (H)
Liverpool (H)
Crystal Palace (A)
Sunderland (A)

iroced

John83 wrote: »

GAH! All this talk of Dawson has stopped me pulling the trigger. Maybe I need to look more closely at long term changes.



2.8 in the bank.

Gerrard > Oscar is a cert because it leaves cash for Brady > Silva.

I've missed the boat on Howard as I can't afford him now. So I had planned to swap of Koscielny to an Everton defender (Jagielka/Distin) and bring in Szczesny (once Arsenal get past the City and Chelsea fixtures); thus covering both defenses.

So if the general consensus is to hold Dawson, then Koscielny is the next choice to dump. I wasn't planning on playing him anyway this weekend.

John83 wrote: »

Having looked at it again I'm very, VERY tempted to do the following:

Dawson > Olsson (Nor)
Gerrard > Oscar
Brady > Silva

Is that worth an -8 hit?

There's no rush for that 8 pts hit.

Silva is a risk for the week-end. He's been brilliant in CL but that was against a Bayern team that kind of stopped playing while 2-0 up (Pellegrini made actually a huge mistake at the end changing his attackers since 1 goal more and the would have topped the group) and he's just back from injury. Not sure Pellegrini will give him such an intensive rhythm that soom. So I'd wait to get him in. Their next 3 games are not easy too.

You can do Gerrard -> Oscar as Chelsea attacking cover seems "essential" for this week-end.

And then get someone for Dawson if you don't want to lose the profit you made on him. The only thing is Spurs will be home to WBA, Sto and CP for gws 18, 19 and 21. There should be 2 CS at least there. On the other hand they've been crap lately.
Arsenal have a tough enough run during Christmas (I'd say CS potential just away to WH and home to Cardiff) so you might change him instead. It's a tough call.

John83

iroced wrote: »

There's no rush for that 8 pts hit.

Silva is a risk for the week-end. He's been brilliant in CL but that was against a Bayern team that kind of stopped playing while 2-0 up (Pellegrini made actually a huge mistake at the end changing his attackers since 1 goal more and the would have topped the group) and he's just back from injury. Not sure Pellegrini will give him such an intensive rhythm that soom. So I'd wait to get him in. Their next 3 games are not easy too.

You can do Gerrard -> Oscar as Chelsea attacking cover seems "essential" for this week-end.

I've made that transfer today. It's my only definite transfer. I'll hold off on Silva to see is Pellegrini going to slowly introduce him back in.

iroced wrote: »

And then get someone for Dawson if you don't want to lose the profit you made on him. The only thing is Spurs will be home to WBA, Sto and CP for gws 18, 19 and 21. There should be 2 CS at least there. On the other hand they've been crap lately.
Arsenal have a tough enough run during Christmas (I'd say CS potential just away to WH and home to Cardiff) so you might change him instead. It's a tough call.

I'm more interested in doing Koscielny > Distin now for a -4 hit because Koscielny won't be a starter in my team for the next two GWs. And then just monitor Dawson's price. If it looks like he's going to drop then I'll need to act fast because that 0.1m is the difference in being able to afford Migs & Brady > Szczesny & Silva for the longer term.

Mr.Prodston

I've just had a brainwave. Sell Ozil and keep Ramsey (just for another few weeks over xmas, brigade members) The logic being that Ramsey has had his rest and Ozil faces 3 away games in the next 4 with the home game being Chelsea.

It actually solves a lot of my problems and could see my potential transition to Walcott in the future more feasible. I feel dirty contemplating it but it does make sense, not that that I always do the sensible thing :pac:

Selling Ozil lets me do Hazard/Oscar and Silva in for Gerrard and Ravel at a manageable -4 rather than -8. With cash in the kitty for other exciting maneuvres the following week.

I've no decision made yet but I realise at this stage I'm overthinking things way to much but Gerrard getting injured wasn't part of the plan.

djPSB

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I've just had a brainwave. Sell Ozil and keep Ramsey (just for another few weeks over xmas, brigade members) The logic being that Ramsey has had his rest and Ozil faces 3 away games in the next 4 with the home game being Chelsea.

It actually solves a lot of my problems and could see my potential transition to Walcott in the future more feasible. I feel dirty contemplating it but it does make sense, not that that I always do the sensible thing :pac:

Selling Ozil lets me do Hazard/Oscar and Silva in for Gerrard and Ravel at a manageable -4 rather than -8. With cash in the kitty for other exciting maneuvres the following week.

I've no decision made yet but I realise at this stage I'm overthinking things way to much but Gerrard getting injured wasn't part of the plan.

Just sold Ozil and Giroud for Barkley and Aguero. No points hit.

Intend on bringing Ozil back in with January wild card.

Aguero is a good candidate for captain over the next few weeks while Suarez has a tough run of games.

iroced

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

[...]with Ramsey rested for the weekend[...]

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

[...]The logic being that Ramsey has had his rest[...]

Is this reverse psychology or you have some information ?

Mr.Prodston

iroced wrote: »

Is this reverse psychology or you have some information ?

Haha I mean that he had his rest last night before the weekend so is presumably in line to feature prominently over the next few GWs including this weekend.

Iused2likebusts

PARlance wrote: »

Didn't realise you had 2 FT's, Redmond is good, if you feel like a gamble then Ireland at 4.6 was good from the small bits I've seen of him, I think he'll start to get his place and expect Stoke to have a bit of a run of form.

They have relatively decent fixtures till the end of Jan (but the easier ones are away from home so not ideal if you're rotating him in)

Hull City (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Newcastle (A)
Tottenham (A)
Everton (H)
Liverpool (H)
Crystal Palace (A)
Sunderland (A)

I also think ireland is a good shout. He was in the team and then picked up a knock and took a few weeks to get back in as adam came in and scored. Hughes obviously rates him and seems to know how to get the best out of him. Only problem is he wont be able to play against villa as he is on loan from them. He is on my watchlist for jan wildcard.

Want2know

Need to get in some Chelsea cover and its between Oscar or Hazard. Dont trust Schürrle or Lampard to get enough mins with the busy x-mas period coming up.

Im kinda thinking Oscar as he's back from injury and only played 67mins on wed whereas Hazard has played the full 90 mins the last 4 games all in December. Anyone agree with this? or any views

jamesbere

Time to get silva back in, wont do it this week but with 1.3 in the bank it will be done next week. He's one of my favourite players and is a joy to watch play.

unkymo

I had 2 free transfers so sold Gerrard and Giroud for Ramsey and Rooney.

My squad now is ; Mignolet,Marshall
Coleman, Mertesacker, Dawson, Ward, Clyne
Ozil, Ramsey, Morrison, Barkley, Brady
Saurez, Lukaku, Rooney

I have 0.8 in the bank and my wildcard as well. If I can get to January without a points hit then i'll be happy!

iroced

Want2know wrote: »

Need to get in some Chelsea cover and its between Oscar or Hazard. Dont trust Schürrle or Lampard to get enough mins with the busy x-mas period coming up.

Im kinda thinking Oscar as he's back from injury and only played 67mins on wed whereas Hazard has played the full 90 mins the last 4 games all in December. Anyone agree with this? or any views

It's a tough one to call... Personnally you can add on top of it my hesitation of selling Yaya for one of these two...

Dempsey

iroced wrote: »

It's a tough one to call... Personnally you can add on top of it my hesitation of selling Yaya for one of these two...

Barring injury, Yaya will be one of the highest scoring midfielders in the game this season.

Mint Sauce

Dawson out, for Ben Turner. Mig out for Krul earlier in week.

That's in for the GW.

iroced

Dempsey wrote: »

Barring injury, Yaya will be one of the highest scoring midfielders in the game this season.

So would you sell Ozil for Hazard ? Or forget about Hazard or Oscar?

My midfield is Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya-Shelvey-Morrisson.
The plan is to gradually get Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya/Silva-Oscar/Hazard (Morrisson).
Can a chieve it in 3-4 weeks without hits. But Hazard is rising tonight and facing CP at home...

PARlance

iroced wrote: »

So would you sell Ozil for Hazard ? Or forget about Hazard or Oscar?

My midfield is Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya-Shelvey-Morrisson.
The plan is to gradually get Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya/Silva-Oscar/Hazard (Morrisson).
Can a chieve it in 3-4 weeks without hits. But Hazard is rising tonight and facing CP at home...

I really don't think Hazard is worth 1.0 or more than Oscar. Posted some stats about him earlier. He's scored 3 points or less in 9 out of his 15 games.
Fair enough he has notched up some serious points in the other games, averaging 12 a game.
While he's a hot & cold player, I think his hot patches so far are above the level that he'll return throughout the season.
I'd fancy Oscar to be very close to him in points from now onwards, the 1.0+ could earn more elsewhere IMO

Dempsey

iroced wrote: »

So would you sell Ozil for Hazard ? Or forget about Hazard or Oscar?

My midfield is Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya-Shelvey-Morrisson.
The plan is to gradually get Ramsey-Ozil-Yaya/Silva-Oscar/Hazard (Morrisson).
Can a chieve it in 3-4 weeks without hits. But Hazard is rising tonight and facing CP at home...

I'm cheapening up my defence/goalkeepers for a better midfield/strikers because of the favourable fixtures that cheaper defenders have and expensive defenders arent bringing in good returns.

I took an -8 point hit last week to do the following

Mignolet -> Gazzaniga
Terry -> Gabbidon
Ravel -> Hazard

I would have been 4 points better off if I didnt make any transfers but I think my team is much better for the changes for the next few GWs.

The week before that I got rid of Boruc for McGregor and this week I'll probably get rid of Clyne for B.Turner.

My midfield is now Hazard, Ozil, Ramsey & Yaya with Ward Prowse on the bench. Lukaku, Suarez & Aguero up top.

Whats the rest of your team? You might be able to do a calculated risk with points hits to get Hazard into that midfield instead of Ravel or Shelvey.

Iused2likebusts

Lots of people taking lots of hits to get in cheap defenders in a total strategy change. Ive been advocating this for weeks but between one thing or another have never got around to it. Ive now decided to just wait till the january wildcard to implement this strategy change.

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Lots of people taking lots of hits to get in cheap defenders in a total strategy change. Ive been advocating this for weeks but between one thing or another have never got around to it. Ive now decided to just wait till the january wildcard to implement this strategy change.

Why not just do it over the Xmas games? The games will come quick and fast and there are plenty of transfer opportunities.

iroced

Dempsey wrote: »

I'm cheapening up my defence/goalkeepers for a better midfield/strikers because of the favourable fixtures that cheaper defenders have and expensive defenders arent bringing in good returns.

I took an -8 point hit last week to do the following

Mignolet -> Gazzaniga
Terry -> Gabbidon
Ravel -> Hazard

I would have been 4 points better off if I didnt make any transfers but I think my team is much better for the changes for the next few GWs.

The week before that I got rid of Boruc for McGregor and this week I'll probably get rid of Clyne for B.Turner.

My midfield is now Hazard, Ozil, Ramsey & Yaya with Ward Prowse on the bench. Lukaku, Suarez & Aguero up top.

Whats the rest of your team? You might be able to do a calculated risk with points hits to get Hazard into that midfield instead of Ravel or Shelvey.

My team is

Mig - Marshall
Terry - Coleman - Dawson - Gabbidon - Vlaar
Ramsey - Ozil - Yaya - Morrisson - Shelvey
Suarez - Aguero - Lukaku

I haven't taken the hits like yourself partly because I'm leading my private league with a small margin and we all have similar looking teams. It may be stupid but I've been burnt before changing my (performing) team too quick...

Terry (obviously not this week), Mig and Vlaar (and possibly Dawson) are on the shopping board.
Shelvey is here temporarily as a replacement for Brady and I'm hoping to make a £0.2m profit on him, which I'm close to.

If I do Terry -> Chester
Mig -> £4.4m keeper
I can get Hazard for Shelvey.
8 pts hit. Like yourself.

Ah feck it. Hazard rose now. So I have time to think it over. I would have lost that £0.1m by selling Shelvey now anyway (same with Ozil and Yaya as a direct swap and getting them back in 2 or 3 GWs which was another strategy without points hits).

This situation is annoying. I feel that if I take Hazard in he's gonna be rested and if I don't he's gonna run riot...

Dempsey

Do not sell Yaya, Ramsey or Ozil for Hazard imo, you have the more consistent options already

Definitely look to get better value from that backline. Hazard is inconsistent alright but capable of big weeks more than most. Oscar is seen as the 'cheaper' more consistent Chelsea midfielder so maybe another week lining things up cant hurt you too much.

I think you could be getting better value for money than Mignolet & Terry. That was my starting point.

Dubliner28

Dont know weather to offload Townsend or not. Was brutal again for Spurs last night but has Liverpool coming up. Dont trust Liverpool away from home, specially without Gerrard.
Might upgrade. Fer or Sissoko. Need to take a risk or two.
9 of my 11 are a home this GW. Hoping for at least 65+

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

Why not just do it over the Xmas games? The games will come quick and fast and there are plenty of transfer opportunities.

Im happy to play dawson good fixtures. I want to keep Terry and will swap g johnson to distin. To get the money for a big 4th midfielder its going to take me 4/5 transfers I just think with the games coming thick and fast with increased chance of injuries and rotation I'd like to be more flexible with my transfers. My squad is in reasonable shape and am going to try and avoid hits till the wildcard.
I do want to change to an all out attack strategy but just feel at this stage for me Im best waiting till my wildcard.

Alfred Borden

Im banking my transfer and going to do this next week for a 4 point hit,
Terry to Vidic
Kos or Coleman to Gab
and Morrison to Cabaye
worth it?
would give me a starting team of:
Krul
Vidic Coleman/Kos Zab
Hazard Yaya Ramsey Cabaye
Lukaku Aguero Suarez

Iused2likebusts

Raf32 wrote: »

Im banking my transfer and going to do this next week for a 4 point hit,
Terry to Vidic
Kos or Coleman to Gab
and Morrison to Cabaye
worth it?
would give me a starting team of:
Krul
Vidic Coleman/Kos Zab
Hazard Yaya Ramsey Cabaye
Lukaku Aguero Suarez

Dont do terry to vidic. Chelsea play the 26th and 29th utd play 26th and 28th. terry has a much greater chance of playing both games. Its very unlikely vidic will play 2 games in 48 hours.

John83

Settling on Kos & Gerrard > Distin & Oscar.

Leaves me with 8 players with home games starting this GW. One of those I'm unsure of. I've benched Mignolet for McGregor but it means I'm doubling up on Hull defense with Chester already included.

So my question does McGregor (home to Stoke) have better potential than Mignolet (away to Spurs)?

@Raf32

@Raf32

I can't see why would anyone take any Everton defence out of their side given their form and their run of fixtures?

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Im happy to play dawson good fixtures. I want to keep Terry and will swap g johnson to distin. To get the money for a big 4th midfielder its going to take me 4/5 transfers I just think with the games coming thick and fast with increased chance of injuries and rotation I'd like to be more flexible with my transfers. My squad is in reasonable shape and am going to try and avoid hits till the wildcard.
I do want to change to an all out attack strategy but just feel at this stage for me Im best waiting till my wildcard.

I'd prefer to hold onto Terry but he or Mertesacker need to go and Arsenal are the better defence at the minute. I have 2.4 mil banked but need 1.7 to get Silva. I could get it from going Mert to Chester also but I can't justify keeping Terry at the minute.

Chelsea under Mourinho is not working like I expected. I thought the clean sheets would be rolling in. Luiz is coming back also so I can see some potential rotation over Xmas for Terry. He's not getting any younger.

A defence even where Cahill is rotated and he plays central defence with Luiz doesn't inspire me with confidence either.

My team have been going well and patience has worked for me so I'm also holding back from the hits.

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

I'd prefer to hold onto Terry but he or Mertesacker need to go and Arsenal are the better defence at the minute. I have 2.4 mil banked but need 1.7 to get Silva. I could get it from going Mert to Chester also but I can't justify keeping Terry at the minute.

Chelsea under Mourinho is not working like I expected. I thought the clean sheets would be rolling in. Luiz is coming back also so I can see some potential rotation over Xmas for Terry. He's not getting any younger.

A defence even where Cahill is rotated and he plays central defence with Luiz doesn't inspire me with confidence either.

My team have been going well and patience has worked for me so I'm also holding back from the hits.

Ye terry isnt justifying his price at the moment and its something I'll look at in the wildcard. Its the lack of a good defensive midfielder that is causing chelsea problems plus their inability to defend set pieces( however I do expect them to sort that problem out)

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ye terry isnt justifying his price at the moment and its something I'll look at in the wildcard. Its the lack of a good defensive midfielder that is causing chelsea problems plus their inability to defend set pieces( however I do expect them to sort that problem out)

I can't see why Mourinho won't stick Luiz into a defensive midfielder role. He still has Cahill and Terry with Ivanovic as cover.

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

I can't see why Mourinho won't stick Luiz into a defensive midfielder role. He still has Cahill and Terry with Ivanovic as cover.

It makes total sense to me. Maybe because that was rafa's idea.

Thinking of ditching Shane Long for Chamakh. He strikes me as the kind of player that goes on goal scoring runs as long as he has confidence from the manager. While I don't expect much of a return from the chelsea game, he should be alright after that. As well as that he could be an interesting differential.

I'll probably swap out El Ahmadi for Oviedo as well.



I have 2 transfers and .3mn to play around with.

kevthegaff

long and ozil to lukaku, silva?? if you can afford it

Can't afford it. Very hesitant of dropping Ozil as I wouldn't be able to buy him back. As soon as Walcott and Podolski are back in the team, I expect his assists to skyrocket.

TheJackAttack

Who are people choosing for captain this wkd?

Everton tend to score lots @ home, yet Fulham are going through a revival.

Swaying away from Suarez captain ??

Suggestions for capt?

BNMC

TheJackAttack wrote: »

Who are people choosing for captain this wkd?

Everton tend to score lots @ home, yet Fulham are going through a revival.

Swaying away from Suarez captain ??

Suggestions for capt?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87982517#post87982517

amber69

TheJackAttack wrote: »

Who are people choosing for captain this wkd?

Everton tend to score lots @ home, yet Fulham are going through a revival.

Swaying away from Suarez captain ??

Suggestions for capt?

Suggest you go to gameweek captain poll

Mr.Prodston

Ignoring my midfield problem for a second is keeping Rooney over Lukaku a bit of a mistake?

With Aguero and Suarez it'd really be more about keeping pace and there's no gamble there at all but if Lukaku runs riot he could sink me over xmas.

jebus84

any views on will Schürrlen start?

Lemlin

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Ignoring my midfield problem for a second is keeping Rooney over Lukaku a bit of a mistake?

With Aguero and Suarez it'd really be more about keeping pace and there's no gamble there at all but if Lukaku runs riot he could sink me over xmas.

Hindsight is your only answer there my friend. What if you get rid of Rooney and he runs riot?

To be honest, I'd expect Rooney to outscore Lukaku. That said, I don't expect him to outscore Lukaku in a manner where he justifies being 3 million extra.

Liamalone

Van Persie out for a month according to SSN.

Mr.Prodston

Liamalone wrote: »

Van Persie out for a month according to SSN.

Well I guess I'm keeping Rooney then :pac:

SlickRic

Rooney is more likely to be rotation proof now.

bezuaua

Mignolet

Coleman
Cahill
Chester

Hazard
Ramsey
YaYa
Morrison

Aguero
Suarez
Lukaku

Subs: Davis | Koscielny | Clyne | Januzaj


Can anyone convince me not to double up on everton defense with Tim Howard? (zero transfers made this GW)
Everton next fixtures can provide tasty clean sheets:
Fulham (H)
Swansea (A)
Sunderland (H)
Southampton (H)
Stoke (A)
Norwich (H)
WBA (A)

On the other hand, Mignolet has been awful and is away to spurs and after cardiff (H) will play city and chelsea (both away)

Opinions??

FHFC

Lemlin wrote: »

Hindsight is your only answer there my friend. What if you get rid of Rooney and he runs riot?

To be honest, I'd expect Rooney to outscore Lukaku. That said, I don't expect him to outscore Lukaku in a manner where he justifies being 3 million extra.

Exact same conundrun, and thankfully resolved a few posts below the above.

Might put the armband back on him and everything!

Danger781

Cahill out injured??

Danger781

NabyLadistheman

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Well I guess I'm keeping Rooney then :pac:

Result & a half!!

Danger781

So, since Cahill went off and made sure he wouldn't start against CP..

A 4 point hit was necessary. Cahill OUT, Jonny Evans IN

United have great fixtures over Christmas