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Disney acquires rights to Indiana Jones

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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    They'll have to re-cast Indy, no two ways about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭brevity


    Yup, Harrison Ford is too old.

    I think Kyle Chandler would do a great job. His performance in Super 8 had shades of Indiana Jones about him.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    According to Spielberg, who seems rather keen to make up for Crystal Skull, Lucas is/was working on the story for Indy 5. Assuming everyone is still willing, this could fast track things considerably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Ford is back for sure!

    ...Ford gives Disney, Han Solo.

    ...Disney give Ford his final Indy movie.

    Those are the rumoured contract agreements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Rumoured where, out of interest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    brevity wrote: »
    Yup, Harrison Ford is too old.

    I think Kyle Chandler would do a great job. His performance in Super 8 had shades of Indiana Jones about him.

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    Oh wow, that's perfect. I'm currently on season 4 of Friday Night Lights and just the other day I was thinking I haven't seen as dependable/reassuring looking,intimidating, man's man actor since................... Harrison Ford. (or Edward James Olmos in BSG, now that it comes to mind)

    Coach Taylor reminds me Indy, and he has the charm too

    Chandler nails that pissed off at what's transpiring, ordinary man in an extraordinary circumstance,weary,gruff look,
    and his exasperated, scrunched face expressions are hilarious.

    He's really distinctive, quiet, low key but powerful all at the same time, yet somehow manages to be the best yeller since Ed Harris. It never once feels like he's acting, I can't say that for even the very best of them

    Man crush/

    Don't pick a child Disney.

    Pick Chandler.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭brevity


    Adamantium wrote: »
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    tumblr_inline_mlogyieErr1qz4rgp.gif

    Oh wow, that's perfect. I'm currently on season 4 of Friday Night Lights and just the other day I was thinking I haven't seen as dependable/reassuring looking,intimidating, man's man actor since................... Harrison Ford. (or Edward James Olmos in BSG, now that it comes to mind)

    Coach Taylor reminds me Indy, and he has the charm too

    Chandler nails that pissed off at what's transpiring, ordinary man in an extraordinary circumstance,weary,gruff look,
    and his exasperated, scrunched face expressions are hilarious.

    He's really distinctive, quiet, low key but powerful all at the same time, yet somehow manages to be the best yeller since Ed Harris. It never once feels like he's acting, I can't say that for even the very best of them

    Man crush/

    Don't pick a child Disney.

    Pick Chandler.

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    Ha ha! Brilliant post.

    It was Super 8 that did it for me. Definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why are they letting George Lucas anywhere near this? He already has ruined two franchises (Star Wars and his involvement in Indy #4), with the former being removed from him almost entirely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    brevity wrote: »
    Ha ha! Brilliant post.

    It was Super 8 that did it for me. Definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it.

    He was excellent in it in Super 8

    I especially loved him in Zero Dark Thirty when he tracked Osama Bin Laden single handedly and gave him a stern lecture about what he had done.

    Coach Taylor style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Why are they letting George Lucas anywhere near this?

    Because he created Indiana Jones with Spielberg?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Kennedy is in charge now, though, so Lucas won’t be able to hold up the show for years like he did with Crystal Skull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Lucas was apparently insistent that Indy 5, should have even more CGI monkies.

    I for one, will be sad to see control take anyway from him.

    I kid, my actual stance, is that there are only 3 Indy films, Crystal never happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    They'll have to re-cast Indy, no two ways about it.

    Give it to Whedon and cast Fillion!!!
    Oh the nerd-gasm


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    He looks well but isn't Chandler almost 50? Would he be up to the fight scenes? You need someone who can do their owns stunts convincingly. As for Fillion, good luck selling him to the studio with the way he currently looks.

    I really can't think of anyone under 40 fit to lick Ford's boots. And I can't see Disney wanting to cast older than that.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Bradley Cooper fits the bill for me, he's got that slight ruggedness and air of confidence about him that Ford had in his Han Solo/Indy days. He's also pretty much the same age as Ford was when he made Raiders. He's proven himself as a really good actor in the last few years too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    I just hope they don't make another one. Nothing wrong with Bradly Cooper. I just don't think anyone can take over from Ford, and 4 was just so bad.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    I just hope they don't make another one. Nothing wrong with Bradly Cooper. I just don't think anyone can take over from Ford, and 4 was just so bad.

    It will happen i'm afraid. Personally I think they should give both this and Star Wars over to Pixar and let them make animated features.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I defended - and would still defend - the fourth Indy movie but I certainly think the series should be left at that. I know I know, it's Disney and while there are gullible nostalgia-geeks like me out there with wallets there's a good chance a fifth film will be made, but if Crystal Skull did anything right, it sensibly retired the Worst Archaeologist in the World, letting him and the franchise simply end as all good things should.

    Maybe it's just the fanboy coming out in me, but I find the idea of someone else wearing that iconic fedora pretty ludicrous; Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones & vice versa; something of a prototype John McClane, the beaten-down everyman hero whose success was more because of the actor playing him than anything the script managed. Ford has a reputation for dry & emotionless delivery, but as Dr. Jones he nailed that tired, weathered, sometimes laconic, cynical tone. That's lightning-in-a-bottle stuff, and you only have to see the infamous screentest with Tom Selleck to see how badly the wrong fit can be.

    And the only reason they got away with it first time around was because Spielberg and co. had the freedom to cast who they wanted for their 1930s serial throwback; I couldn't see that happening with a 5th film and we'd end up with a Star (like Bradley Cooper, jeeez) rather than the Right Fit because there'd be too much riding on it for Disney to take a risk on someone admittedly more suitable like Kyle Chandler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    pixelburp wrote: »
    And the only reason they got away with it first time around was because Spielberg and co. had the freedom to cast who they wanted for their 1930s serial throwback;

    They were this close to casting Tom Selleck, and then most of ye would never even have seen it (I still would, because I knew nothing about it walking into the cinema in London in 198x).

    And if they recast it, it'll probably be ****e, but the original movies will still be there. Dr. Jones is now a character for the ages, like Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Zarkov and Dr. Who.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    It will happen i'm afraid. Personally I think they should give both this and Star Wars over to Pixar and let them make animated features.

    Totally agree, it will unfortunately definitely happen. Regarding Indy animated features, that is a great idea, and you could still have then set in the nazi/WWII era then and have Ford voice Indy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Problem with casting Indy is there are too many rubbish Indy clones (not Indy but wearing the same sort of getup hat etc). Just tune into the Syfy channel and you'll probably find a few. I saw the actor who played the Autistic blond kid in St Elsewhere doing one. And Noah Wyle from ER. And on and on.

    Iconic characters need really careful casting but if they get the recasting right and it will work. My suggestion is whoever thought of hiring Mads Mikkelsen to play Anthony Hopk.....sorry, Hannibal Lecter should be hired to cast Indy. It was a stroke of genius that worked so well that it is now hard to imagine anyone but Mikkelsen as Lecter including Hopkins who seems way over the top in the role.


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    touts wrote: »
    And Noah Wyle from ER. /QUOTE]

    Good call, Noah Wyle should be the new Indiana Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Good call, Noah Wyle should be the new Indiana Jones.

    After Falling Skies, I could not take him seriously ever again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    After Falling Skies, I could not take him seriously ever again.

    Oh I stopped taking him seriously way before Falling Skies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Librarian_(franchise)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Adamantium wrote: »
    Oh wow, that's perfect. I'm currently on season 4 of Friday Night Lights and just the other day I was thinking I haven't seen as dependable/reassuring looking,intimidating, man's man actor since................... Harrison Ford. (or Edward James Olmos in BSG, now that it comes to mind)

    Coach Taylor reminds me Indy, and he has the charm too

    Chandler nails that pissed off at what's transpiring, ordinary man in an extraordinary circumstance,weary,gruff look,
    and his exasperated, scrunched face expressions are hilarious.

    He's really distinctive, quiet, low key but powerful all at the same time, yet somehow manages to be the best yeller since Ed Harris. It never once feels like he's acting, I can't say that for even the very best of them

    Man crush/

    Don't pick a child Disney.

    Pick Chandler.

    He's also done the hero thing (albeit it as an actor with an inflated ego) in King Kong

    kingkong1.jpg


    Stick a fedora and dirty him up and yeah, I could totally see him as Indy, wouldn't be a bad choice at all.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because he created Indiana Jones with Spielberg?

    He created Star Wars and look what happened there!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a hope that any studio is going to cast Nathan Fiilion considering that he no resembles a fridge freezer. Since he started Castle he's piled on the pounds and I really can't picture him in any role as iconic as Indiana Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    He created Star Wars and look what happened there!

    Yes, he owned that, too, until he sold it.

    The question was not "Can Lucas make a film to save his life?", the question was "Why are they letting George Lucas near this?".

    Answer: because he part-owns it, he is one of its creators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I defended - and would still defend - the fourth Indy movie but I certainly think the series should be left at that. I know I know, it's Disney and while there are gullible nostalgia-geeks like me out there with wallets there's a good chance a fifth film will be made, but if Crystal Skull did anything right, it sensibly retired the Worst Archaeologist in the World, letting him and the franchise simply end as all good things should.

    Maybe it's just the fanboy coming out in me, but I find the idea of someone else wearing that iconic fedora pretty ludicrous; Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones & vice versa; something of a prototype John McClane, the beaten-down everyman hero whose success was more because of the actor playing him than anything the script managed. Ford has a reputation for dry & emotionless delivery, but as Dr. Jones he nailed that tired, weathered, sometimes laconic, cynical tone. That's lightning-in-a-bottle stuff, and you only have to see the infamous screentest with Tom Selleck to see how badly the wrong fit can be.

    And the only reason they got away with it first time around was because Spielberg and co. had the freedom to cast who they wanted for their 1930s serial throwback; I couldn't see that happening with a 5th film and we'd end up with a Star (like Bradley Cooper, jeeez) rather than the Right Fit because there'd be too much riding on it for Disney to take a risk on someone admittedly more suitable like Kyle Chandler.

    IMHO Selleck's Indy screentest was quite good, think he would have done well with it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Not a hope that any studio is going to cast Nathan Fiilion considering that he no resembles a fridge freezer. Since he started Castle he's piled on the pounds and I really can't picture him in any role as iconic as Indiana Jones.

    How long do you really think that it would take an actor to lose that much weight?
    Personal trainers, train 4+ times a day and a strict diet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    There are only three Indiana Jones movies.

    There are only three StarWars movies.

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    endacl wrote: »
    There are only three Indiana Jones movies.

    There are only three StarWars movies.

    I'll probably never watch the second Indy or third SW movie again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    I'll probably never watch the second Indy or third SW movie again.

    Compared to the sh!te today temple of doom & ROTJ are actually quite awesome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Except for Ewoks taking down the empire, with spears


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Except for Ewoks taking down the empire, with spears

    The first bit that got me at the cinema was Luke cutting loose with his light-sabre [ooh, green!] on Jabba's yacht, and all the bad guys just fell down as if he hit them with a stick.

    We knew from Star Wars and Empire what should have happened: hands, arms, legs and heads flying, guys chopped in half, total mayhem.

    But no, they just fell over. If you can't put the scene in the movie, don't! But don't film a sanitised PG version and put that in instead!


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How long do you really think that it would take an actor to lose that much weight?
    Personal trainers, train 4+ times a day and a strict diet...

    And where will Fillion find the time? He's shooting a full TV series and I can't see him having the time to get in the required shape and I don't see the network letting him out of his contract so as to shoot a film like the next Indy adventure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Deaglain.12


    Was just reading the could possibly reboot with Bradley Cooper as Indiana Jones.
    When I think about it I think he could fit the role pretty well.

    Thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Ryaller


    This rumor was debunked weeks ago. Rebooting the Indiana Jones franchise is a horrible idea. Nobody other than Harrison Ford would feel right playing that character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    If anyone was to get it Kyle Chandler would be the one I'd like to see get it.

    But in no way should it be rebooted/remade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    If anyone was to get it Kyle Chandler would be the one I'd like to see get it.

    But in no way should it be rebooted/remade.

    Born to play that role. A man's man.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    I could see Bradley Cooper playing him but I don't know if I'd like it. Now one suggestion I have is...Chris Pratt.
    Before you call me crazy or debunk the idea, Chris Pratt seems to have that sort of character about him. Him as Star-Lord seems to have hints of Harrison Fords Han Solo character. I think he could play Indiana Jones if it was ever to be rebooted. Just my view though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,866 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Can't picture Cooper in the role at all, would be a terrible choice imo.
    If anyone was to get it Kyle Chandler would be the one I'd like to see get it.

    But in no way should it be rebooted/remade.

    Great shout


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Frank ****ing Darabount

    [on his rejected script for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) (aka Indiana Jones 4)] Steven was very, very happy with the script and said it was the best draft of anything since Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981). That's really high praise and gave me a real sense of accomplishment, especially when you love the material you're working on as much as I love the "Indiana Jones" films. And then you have George Lucas read it and say, 'Yeah, I don't think so, I don't like it'. And then he resets it to zero when Spielberg is ready to shoot it that coming year, [which] is a real kick to the nuts. You can only waste so much time and so many years of your life on experiences like that, you can only get so emotionally invested and have the rug pulled out from under you before you say enough of that.

    Well done Steven for deferring to your pal George. :rolleyes:
    In many ways these two guys are at the extremes of each other.

    The man who directed and wrote screenplays for the two best films of the 90's was pushed aside for Lucas writing.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Bradley Cooper fits the bill for me, he's got that slight ruggedness and air of confidence about him that Ford had in his Han Solo/Indy days. He's also pretty much the same age as Ford was when he made Raiders. He's proven himself as a really good actor in the last few years too.

    Great shout, Cooper can draw conflicted opinions but he does seem the perfect fit for Indy


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Warper wrote: »
    Great shout, Cooper can draw conflicted opinions but he does seem the perfect fit for Indy

    Why does Bradly Cooper's name keep coming up?

    The man looks like a charmless, sleezy emu for God's sake!

    emu-1.jpg

    team-uk-premiere-2010-bradley-cooper-48540.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    It's about attitude, not looks. If they really have to do it (and I hope not) I think BC might pull it off...


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Warper wrote: »
    Great shout, Cooper can draw conflicted opinions but he does seem the perfect fit for Indy

    I just came in to post that I called this ages ago if it actually happens, thanks for pointing it out :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭conorhal


    old hippy wrote: »
    It's about attitude, not looks. If they really have to do it (and I hope not) I think BC might pull it off...


    It is, and Cooper just doesn't have it. Ford was a very good looking guy in his hayday, but more importantly, he just was that character. A slightly cumudgenly, old school hollywood star, a former carpenter and practical guy about whom it didn't surprise you in the least when he flew off in his private chopper to rescue people from a forest fire. He's so much that character that it would be pointless to cast anybody else.
    Cooper just comes across as a slick, slightly whiny hollywood douche that Ford would eat for breakfast. He's great for charmless parts like that in American Hustle, but he has no Indiana Jones sparkle that would make you for a moment believe that he's making it up as he goes along.
    Best case scenario would be that they search long and hard for an unknown with similar qualities to Ford.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Disagree about Bradley Cooper, I really don't see where people are coming from in suggesting him.

    Aside from the fact rebooting Indiana Jones feels like heresy in the first place - but what's another reboot among friends eh - the essence of Indy should be that he's a scrapper, an underdog; an everyman cut from the same cloth as someone like John McClane circa Die Hard and its first two sequels. Dr. Jones looks a little beat up because most of his life has been spent racing from one punch-up to the next.

    Cooper's appearance though just doesn't tick those boxes at all for me. He looks the smooth-talking type, the wiseguy, but a little oily perhaps. A rogue yes, but mostly a cad. I dunno. Kyle Chandler is a nice suggestion visually I must say, and has that everyman appearance about him, but he's too unknown to ever get a gig like an Indy reboot (though hopefully it'll never happen)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    Not sure if this has been suggested already, but I think Nikolaj Coster-Waldau could actually be a decent pick. He is not as flamboyant as Bradley Cooper, and tends to be more reserved much like Harrison Ford's Indy.

    Similar looking too!

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm207407360/nm0182666?ref_=nm_phs_md_2


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