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Chinese Chang'e3+Yutu going to land on the Moon on Saturday December 14th

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    jumpjack wrote: »

    Wow they are tiny!

    Not sure about the quality though, to me they look like they are made of cheap Chinese plastic...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 yck016


    ya this pair look pretty tiny and filmsy. its a wonder it can withstand the climatic and geography of the moon.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,425 Mod ✭✭✭✭slade_x


    Bohrio wrote: »
    Wow they are tiny!

    Not sure about the quality though, to me they look like they are made of cheap Chinese plastic...

    Yes they are tiny, they are 1:22 scale models :D

    The real rover weights over 100kg and is about 1.5 metres tall. The total landing mass including lander is greater than that of a 2014 Toyota Corolla

    prototype:




    chinas-yutu-moon-rover_0.jpg

    Lander:

    http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/tech2302.html


    China-moon-rover-Yutu_93522.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Heres hoping for a successful landing! With hd streaming of the whole thing live of course.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 yck016


    compare to the apollos in the 70s this indeed is miniscule. have to wish them luck given the aspiration
    to set up bases on the moon. its better trying than not doin anything. an leap for mankind:-) ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    The lander has a plutonium-powered nuclear generator. So why does it have solar panels?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    yck016 wrote: »
    compare to the apollos in the 70s this indeed is miniscule. have to wish them luck given the aspiration
    to set up bases on the moon. its better trying than not doin anything. an leap for mankind:-) ?

    The Chinese are certainly making giant leaps(pardon pun) considering they are relatively new to the whole Space race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    2 stroke wrote: »
    The lander has a plutonium-powered nuclear generator. So why does it have solar panels?
    Its to keep it warm at night. Much smaller than an rtg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    shedweller wrote: »
    Its to keep it warm at night. Much smaller than an rtg.

    That explains the plutonium-powered nuclear generator. But why also have solar panels? If its got a nuke, surely it would have made sense to make it big enough to power all systems and save weight & fuel getting it there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    2 stroke wrote: »
    That explains the plutonium-powered nuclear generator. But why also have solar panels? If its got a nuke, surely it would have made sense to make it big enough to power all systems and save weight & fuel getting it there.
    They use a pellet of plutonium to provide heat. Theres no other machinery to allow it to make heat. It just radiates heat sitting there. No moving parts no nothing. So its a very lightweight heating solution. Turning that into an rtg requires a good few more parts, not to mention more plutonium to get the required heat output to deliver the required wattage.
    Hence the solar panels as they are very light by comparison.
    But i agree that an rtg would have allowed the rover to keep truckin 24/7. Costs i suppose?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    The lander, which does not move after touchdown, carries a plutonium-powered nuclear generator to provide electricity during the two-week lunar night.

    Thanks, I guess I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet. I thought if it produced enough electricty to keep it warm at night, it wouldnt be too difficult to power a few instruments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Such a shame this isn't getting more attention. The first soft lunar landing in nearly 40 years!! This is huge. If it was an American mission no doubt the media would be all over it. Anyway best of luck YuTu! Looking forward to seeing lunar surface images.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭caoty


    Live broadcast in Chinese, better than nothing. Landing time 1:40pm GMT est.

    http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv13/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Link here in English


    http://english.cntv.cn/live/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    CCTV news is available on satellite TV here in Ireland too:
    CCTV NEWS 12.663 H 22000 5/6

    Tuning instructions here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055520627


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭caoty


    It that available to Free-to-Air?
    Rovi wrote: »
    CCTV news is available on satellite TV here in Ireland too:
    CCTV NEWS 12.663 H 22000 5/6

    Tuning instructions here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055520627


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Rovi wrote: »
    CCTV news is available on satellite TV here in Ireland too:
    CCTV NEWS 12.663 H 22000 5/6

    Tuning instructions here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055520627

    Channel 510 on Sky


  • Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭sh__93


    jumpjack wrote: »

    210658l4l3arr3ylvbbva3.jpg

    189634d1386539225-china-change-3-lunar-module-yutu-rover-apollo-change3.jpg
    Chang'e3 on the Left, Apollo LM on the right.

    Other forum:
    http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26848.180

    WHAT IS THIS, a moon lander for ants?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    sh__93 wrote: »
    WHAT IS THIS, a moon lander for ants?

    It's a scale model!!!

    Here's a prototype of the rover during testing

    283875_533987129995626_371072966_n.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭caoty


    Wow!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    She's landed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Chang_e3_landing.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭ThatDrGuy


    Congratulations china. All seemed to go to plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,273 ✭✭✭emo72


    china needs resources. rare metals for our day to day electronics. probably running short on earth and now thinking of further afield. commerce drives space exploration. who decides who owns what on the moon? in the old days whoever got a flag there first was the owner. so america owns the moon?:D

    i wonder will the chinese rover "accidentally" knock the american flag(s) over:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 349 ✭✭apollo8


    Pictures beamed live from the craft as it was landing congrats china:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    They need to prove the American flags and footprints are there first though.:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    It's quite incredible that SkyandTelescope have nothing about this on their home page :confused::confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭caoty


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