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Spurs v Liverpool 15th December

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    #182
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    I'm tuning out in favour of music and beer for the rest of the night. Life is too short to beat ourselves up after a day like this. Maybe its a cop out but it is the most pleasant way of dealing with these situations imo.

    COYS!


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    #183
    gar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭gar


    Don't think he'll be sacked.
    ****e performance in addition to a pro Liverpool ref.
    Same points as this stage last year is the positive but there is a massive gulf in class between us and everyone ahead of us.
    Don't forget we had a make shift defence


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    #184
    Abraham Old Manger
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    Yeah but surely we could have managed a shot on target?


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    #185
    irishmover
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    Great way to start my holiday in Fiji. Thank god I didn't stay up and watch it, although I been awake since the final whistle went as I had woke up to check the score...

    Disgusted.


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    #186
    Pacing Mule
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    gar wrote: »
    Don't think he'll be sacked.
    ****e performance in addition to a pro Liverpool ref.
    Same points as this stage last year is the positive but there is a massive gulf in class between us and everyone ahead of us.
    Don't forget we had a make shift defence

    Lots of twitter talk saying he's gone. Might be all bull**** though.


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    #187
    poolboy
    Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭poolboy


    gar wrote: »
    Don't think he'll be sacked.
    ****e performance in addition to a pro Liverpool ref.
    Same points as this stage last year is the positive but there is a massive gulf in class between us and everyone ahead of us.
    Don't forget we had a make shift defence

    Yeah was the ref that cost ye. LOL doesn't do that comment justice


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    #188
    SuprSi
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    poolboy wrote: »
    Yeah was the ref that cost ye. LOL doesn't do that comment justice

    That's not what he said.


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    #189
    poolboy
    Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭poolboy


    SuprSi wrote: »
    That's not what he said.

    Ye were destroyed the ref was about as much responsible for that as I was sitting at home watching it


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    #190
    martingriff
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    SuprSi wrote: »
    That's not what he said.

    He mentioned a pro liverpool ref as if it was a defence. Did not see the ref as pro liverpool myself


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    #191
    SuprSi
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    poolboy wrote: »
    Ye were destroyed the ref was about as much responsible for that as I was sitting at home watching it

    What he said was it was a ****e performance in addition to a pro-Liverpool ref, probably in relation to the perhaps debatable sending off (which I think was a red). IMO at that point the game was over anyway and sending off or not Liverpool were going to win, all this did was make sure there were more than 2 goals in it.


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    #192
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    ok just back from the pub where I was drinking with 2 pool fans. sorry lads but that was shocking from the 1st minute we didn't look interested even the pool fans were scratching their heads they couldn't believe it.
    I cant see how were gonna improve we were never embaressed like this under harry right I know he had his lmitations but 6-0 against city away with 5-0 against pool at HOME (lets not forget no gerrard and no sturidge in all honesty they are ****!) avb has to go. sorry but he has to.


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    #193
    tom1ie
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    by the way I don't think we should sack avb, Theres no chance of us getting relegated! We'll be stronger next year once we spend more than 4.5 million net!


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    #194
    keane=cock
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    by the way I don't think we should sack avb, Theres no chance of us getting relegated! We'll be stronger next year once we spend more than 4.5 million net!
    agree with everything u said except that in bold!!!


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    #195
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    keane=cock wrote: »
    agree with everything u said except that in bold!!!
    but that's all we spent!


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    #196
    keane=cock
    Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭keane=cock


    tom1ie wrote: »
    but that's all we spent!
    are u serious? are u actually serious? so the 100 mill we spent means nothing cos we sold 90 mill worth of players? nothing?


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    #197
    tom1ie
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    keane=cock wrote: »
    are u serious? are u actually serious? so the 100 mill we spent means nothing cos we sold 90 mill worth of players? nothing?
    I SAID NET. so therefore im right sorry pal but if you buy 100 million worth and sell 95 million worth that means your net spend is 5 million


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    #198
    SeaDaily
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    The negativity in this thread is awe-inspiring. People talking about being ashamed to be spurs fans. Im ashamed to support a club where the fans are so fickle.


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    #199
    gar
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    SuprSi wrote: »
    What he said was it was a ****e performance in addition to a pro-Liverpool ref, probably in relation to the perhaps debatable sending off (which I think was a red). IMO at that point the game was over anyway and sending off or not Liverpool were going to win, all this did was make sure there were more than 2 goals in it.

    From what I saw
    1. Spurs were very poor
    2. Didn't seem to get any decisions ie soldados goal yet he didn't get a free when the same thing happened him later in the game.
    3. Noughton, Dawson and fryers were/are not good enough.
    4. Just didn't happen in midfield.
    5. Paulinos red was borderline but not surprised.No malice but a foot that high yyou can't argue


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    #200
    keane=cock
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    I SAID NET. so therefore im right sorry pal but if you buy 100 million worth and sell 95 million worth that means your net spend is 5 million
    i know what u said thats why im asking are u serious. regardless of what we sold we still spent 100 mill!


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    #201
    tom1ie
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    keane=cock wrote: »
    i know what u said thats why im asking are u serious. regardless of what we sold we still spent 100 mill!
    .........................yes and sold 85 millions worth or whatever it was the point is the money that was spent was not good enough. our most expensive player stayed on the bench. He's obviously not avb's player so if that's the case what the **** is going on?


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    #202
    keane=cock
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    personally i think something isnt right. granted players need time to gel but even still that performance by proffessional players is unacceptable. i like avb but he has his back up against the wall now. a lot of people calling for his head after city. citys squad is worth hundreds of millions i cant say the same about that liverpool team.

    i dont know who is to blame and avb has came out and taken blame for today but sorry them players need to take their fair share of the blame too.


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    #203
    oppiuy
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    SeaDaily wrote: »
    The negativity in this thread is awe-inspiring. People talking about being ashamed to be spurs fans. Im ashamed to support a club where the fans are so fickle.

    Yeah very fickle..we've been playing super football for well over 12 months now. Scoring loads of goals, real entertainment..its just 1 bad game and we'v all gone mad


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    #204
    keane=cock
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    .........................yes and sold 85 millions worth or whatever it was the point is the money that was spent was not good enough. our most expensive player stayed on the bench. He's obviously not avb's player so if that's the case what the **** is going on?

    we sold 1 player who was a starting 11 player. avb has already came out and said lamella is only showing a fraction of his potential and is struggling with the physical side of the english game. granted maybe a lot of the players are not avbs choise as im led to believe baldini signed most of them but if thats the case then surely the blame lies with levy no? he cat have a man sign a player his manager doesnt want or need?


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    #205
    SeaDaily
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    oppiuy wrote: »
    Yeah very fickle..we've been playing super football for well over 12 months now. Scoring loads of goals, real entertainment..its just 1 bad game and we'v all gone mad

    It doesn't matter how long we play bad football for a spurs fan should be a spurs fan for life and the level of vitriol aimed at every aspect of our club is shameful.


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    #206
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    keane=cock wrote: »
    we sold 1 player who was a starting 11 player. avb has already came out and said lamella is only showing a fraction of his potential and is struggling with the physical side of the english game. granted maybe a lot of the players are not avbs choise as im led to believe baldini signed most of them but if thats the case then surely the blame lies with levy no? he cat have a man sign a player his manager doesnt want or need?
    so the problem is higher up than avb himself. I am not a die hard harry fan but obviously harry had total control over ins and outs. Avb does not seem to. Therefore there is a leadership issue. If his is the case it will feed down to the players. In contrast Brendan Rodgers signs who he wants in his team. End of story. So are we calling for Baldini's head. Avb's head or more of the status quo?


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    #207
    keane=cock
    Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭keane=cock


    tom1ie wrote: »
    so the problem is higher up than avb himself. I am not a die hard harry fan but obviously harry had total control over ins and outs. Avb does not seem to. Therefore there is a leadership issue. If his is the case it will feed down to the players. In contrast Brendan Rodgers signs who he wants in his team. End of story. So are we calling for Baldini's head. Avb's head or more of the status quo?

    only levy knows the answers to that. maybe avb gives baldini the nod maybe not im not sure but i personally dont want avb sacked. we have doen that for years and it hasnt really gotten us anywhere. jol had us 5th and how many years ago was that? how many managers since? we still are not a dead cert to be top 4any season so have we really progressed by sacking managers? no point avb getting 100 mill and not been given a chance. sack him and a new manager comes in and doesnt like the players?? what then?


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    #208
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    keane=cock wrote: »
    only levy knows the answers to that. maybe avb gives baldini the nod maybe not im not sure but i personally dont want avb sacked. we have doen that for years and it hasnt really gotten us anywhere. jol had us 5th and how many years ago was that? how many managers since? we still are not a dead cert to be top 4any season so have we really progressed by sacking managers? no point avb getting 100 mill and not been given a chance. sack him and a new manager comes in and doesnt like the players?? what then?
    funny how you picked out jol and not harry who has been our most succesfull manager in recent times but anyway I don't want avb sacked either but it appears he is not getting much of a rection from what is a team full of internationals


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    #209
    keane=cock
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    funny how you picked out jol and not harry who has been our most succesfull manager in recent times but anyway I don't want avb sacked either but it appears he is not getting much of a rection from what is a team full of internationals
    i picked out jol because he took us to 5th BEFORE harry and my point was how many managers have we had since that could not consistantly keep us in top 4? changing manager is not the solution


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    #210
    Dublin Spur
    Registered Users Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    we're a shambles
    14-0 against West Ham, Man City and Liverpool
    No excuses acceptable
    New manager required


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    #211
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    keane=cock wrote: »
    i picked out jol because he took us to 5th BEFORE harry and my point was how many managers have we had since that could not consistantly keep us in top 4? changing manager is not the solution
    I agree with ya we have a history of managers doing well and getting sacked jol harry etc. Maybe avb is playing the percentages and making sure we do ****................... im joking by the way!:D


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