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Grassland sheep scheme

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  • 11-12-2013 4:12pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭


    Anyone get paid?
    Also anyone get the sheep census form yet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Sheep census form came yesterday. A note came with it advising you can complete online.
    Census date is next Sunday.
    Cause farmers don't take days off.
    Staff in Portlaoise are also going to come in on a Sunday to help clear any backlog!:D

    Would you put Cheviots in as low-land or Mountain breed!

    Not in the grassland scheme. How does it work, and what are the practicalities?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Would you put Cheviots in as low-land or Mountain breed!

    I put mine in as mountain along with the blackface.

    I noticed the Sunday date too, Godless feckers :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    For the craic, I rang Portlaoise, and asked the lady in the DAP section what she would classify a Cheviot as.
    "I don't know anything about sheep breeds"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    For the craic, I rang Portlaoise, and asked the lady in the DAP section what she would classify a Cheviot as.
    "I don't know anything about sheep breeds"

    What's most beneficial as I'm sure you could successfully argue both ways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    Did not get It yet. Is It apx 7 euro a ewe . Or is It a combination of ewes and area . Anyone on The border line With numbers for Das payment. And not in an envioroment scheme .you have chance to Buy a Few ewes now


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  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    Sunday is because, usually no or little movements take place,

    otherwise sheep being sold could be omitted or if sold farm to farm may listed in duplicate (on 2 separate farms)

    no word of payment yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Salmonman


    Did not get It yet. Is It apx 7 euro a ewe . Or is It a combination of ewes and area . Anyone on The border line With numbers for Das payment. And not in an envioroment scheme .you have chance to Buy a Few ewes now

    As far as I know it's €10 for breeding ewes only,nothing for lambs that were kept on


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Salmonman wrote: »
    As far as I know it's €10 for breeding ewes only,nothing for lambs that were kept on

    Yes as far as i know its based on the average number of ewes on your last 2 sheep census forms. ( so the average number of ewes you had in DEC 12 and DEC 11)
    You don't need to do anything else other than have a SFP application made that year to qualify.

    But i haven't got the census letter yet or any payment for last year !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Partick Thistle


    Some people that joined AEOS 3 had to increase thir sheep nos due to undergrazing of commonages. This should be borne in mind when filling Sheep Census


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Some people that joined AEOS 3 had to increase thir sheep nos due to undergrazing of commonages. This should be borne in mind when filling Sheep Census

    Apparently under some European law (I think) a number (like max/min) cannot be applied to a piece of land unless it's applied to all land (it would have to be applied to all land, lowland as well as upland).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭Wooly Admirer


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Sheep census form came yesterday. A note came with it advising you can complete online.
    Census date is next Sunday.
    Cause farmers don't take days off.
    Staff in Portlaoise are also going to come in on a Sunday to help clear any backlog!:D

    Would you put Cheviots in as low-land or Mountain breed!

    Yes the Sunday is down to some duplicate claiming going on. One farmer having ewes in the morning, moving them to another in the evening. Still possible on Sunday obviously, but at least marts are out of it.

    Cheviots definitely classed as Mountain for the census.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Got census form today, are Lleyn sheep classed as upland or lowland, or both


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    To my mind Lleyn would be lowland not mountain, there's no upland option on the census form I got. Upland and mountain would be two different things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    Christ The dep of ag are pains


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 richiebon


    didnt get grassland payment yet Did anyone/ havnt got census form either...


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭HillFarmer


    Didn't get it yet either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Got census today . So I'll buy 100 ewes in mount bellew Saturday and sell them in athenry on Monday :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    According to the Journal it was paid on Thursday and should be in accounts in a few days


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    Nothing yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    no money

    just tried to do the census online and it does'nt seem to be set up yet ..

    was supposed to be available from 15 th


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  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭HillFarmer


    Nothing yet here either


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 richiebon


    got it this morning....


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    yes got it. Less than expected but welcome


  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭Box09


    I got a payment - unsure if it is the last 25% of Reps or the Sheep payment as both similar amounts. How do you know which one it is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    Got it too . Prob closer to 7 euro a ewe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Got mine this morning. Looks like it will be 2014 before I see any DAS or AEOS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭brownswiss


    Salmonman wrote: »
    As far as I know it's €10 for breeding ewes only,nothing for lambs that were kept on
    The payment slip shows a Rate per Hectare of €50.90 but only on some of my land.

    A friend who has 20 hectares more than me got paid on less hectares and got almost half the amount of money that I received. I can not figure out how they calculated this years payment


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Got it today.

    30 hectares(maximum I think) paid at 50.90 euro per hectare less deductions of 190.17 for modulation and financial discipline.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Got it today.

    30 hectares(maximum I think) paid at 50.90 euro per hectare less deductions of 190.17 for modulation and financial discipline.

    So where does the number of ewes come into it ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭brownswiss


    Got it today.

    30 hectares(maximum I think) paid at 50.90 euro per hectare less deductions of 190.17 for modulation and financial discipline.
    ..

    Neither I nor my friend got paid on 30 hectares. He got paid on less hectares than I did


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