The Official Off Topic Thread

BumperD

ustari wrote: »

Like those videos and don't think he is every really "aftertiming", always mentions what lost as well as what won from what I can remember. Seems a reasonable, realistic fellow.

Ah but there’s the rub. He’s dispensing betting advice yet failing to mention any of those after timing gems in that same advice before the results. It’s of zero value. No one cares how much he lost.

Slattsy

BumperD wrote: »

Agreed. BTW I had my biggest bet of the year on field of dreams at lingfield today Christmas and 2020 paid for.

Clique

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why do ppl get so angry about aftertiming

I'm not sure what's worse, aftertiming or someone who posts a 'tip' to someone on social media/forum like they are in the know. Aftertiming to me just comes across as needy and attention seeking but wouldn't let it ruin my day like some seem too on here

We had our Christmas party a few years ago at the dogs. One guy had the winner of the first couple of races, some thought ok, I'll have some of that, people that wouldn't back as such so started ask him what to do in the next race. He said he had a 'tip' in the next. Almost all backed it, me included, finished last at a short enough price too, yet he was screaming the winner home. Everyone was puzzled as to why he was cheering home the winner while everyone was cursing our luck. I backed 4 of them he said to me quietly and was doing so in most races Still tells people to this day how he had 8 winners the last time we went to the dogs for that Christmas party :rolleyes: No surprise he had to bar himself from the local Paddyp!

IAMAMORON

If I am going to the dags , I always bring my lucky die.



Unbeatable.

BoldReason

This is one of the greatest threads I've seen on twitter in a while. Gearóid is a funny ****er.

https://twitter.com/gearoid2point0/status/1206643641822916615?s=19

BoldReason

And to finish never forget.

https://twitter.com/gearoid2point0/status/1207343386858004482?s=19


It's a bit of a read but I'll say it again. Well worth the time.

Slattsy

Who is he?

BoldReason

Slattsy wrote: »

Who is he?

He is a pro punter.

Andrew00

He's not he's just ur average punter. I've been following his account for a while

Slattsy

What's the definition of a pro punter?

Lady Haywire

Slattsy wrote: »

What's the definition of a pro punter?

Goat. :pac:

BoldReason

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Goat. :pac:

Ya probably exactly the opposite of that.

Lady Haywire

BoldReason wrote: »

Ya probably exactly the opposite of that.

It appears sarcasm does not seem to come out well in text.

BoldReason

Lady Haywire wrote: »

It appears sarcasm does not seem to come out well in text.

Haha I knew you were joking. The pac face was a giveaway.

BumperD

https://mobile.twitter.com/ui_maine/status/1212047697718513665?s=21

Johnny Ward to do a piece on JP’s betting operation

Hardy weather. Appears to be hail or sleet over at Wolves.

Brendan, or whatever name they're giving this storm could well
result in abandonments aplenty this week.

BumperD

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4996357/irish-jockey-colm-o-donoghue-contest-assault-accusations/

Colm o donoghue in the soup

Andrew00

Things have gone downhill for him last few years since Jessie binned him

The Mig

The 38-year-old jockey started his horse riding career with renowned Irish trainer Aidan O’Brien and his team at Ballydoyle stables.

In more recent times he rode for Jessica Harrington before leaving her British-based stables about a year ago.

Jessie's British based stables :pac:

SAYMONUE

Andrew00 wrote: »

He's not he's just ur average punter. I've been following his account for a while

I'd love a betting shop full of you...

Jack Kennedy out for Cheltenham. https://www.irishracing.com/news?headline=Kennedy-ruled-out-of-Cheltenham&prid=206563

BumperD

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/injunction-granted-after-horse-believed-dead-for-a-year-ended-up-being-entered-in-race-tomorrow-38936427.html


February 07 2020 06:12 PM
A man thought a broken down racehorse his company owned had been put down a year ago but opened a newspaper to find it was entered to run at Naas racecourse tomorrow, the High Court has heard.

Andrew Hughes, manager of Thistle Bloodstock Ltd, was granted a temporary injunction today preventing the horse "The Tartan Spartan" from running in the 3.22pm Hurdle Handicap.

STRANGE ONE

zpehtsfd

BumperD wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/injunction-granted-after-horse-believed-dead-for-a-year-ended-up-being-entered-in-race-tomorrow-38936427.html


February 07 2020 06:12 PM
A man thought a broken down racehorse his company owned had been put down a year ago but opened a newspaper to find it was entered to run at Naas racecourse tomorrow, the High Court has heard.

Andrew Hughes, manager of Thistle Bloodstock Ltd, was granted a temporary injunction today preventing the horse "The Tartan Spartan" from running in the 3.22pm Hurdle Handicap.

STRANGE ONE

Philip Fenton must have given him a that special mix.

BumperD

Haha also the times of races look experimental tomorrow think Blake was advocating

STB.

zpehtsfd wrote: »

Philip Fenton must have given him a that special mix.

Those days are gone.


2014/15 - 20% strike rate from 66 runs

2019/2020 - 0% strike rate from 40 runs


He actually had a winner in the 2018/2019 season.

BumperD

STB. wrote: »

Those days are gone.


2014/15 - 20% strike rate from 66 runs

2019/2020 - 0% strike rate from 40 runs


He actually had a winner in the 2018/2019 season.

Those stats are revealing

BumperD

BumperD wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/injunction-granted-after-horse-believed-dead-for-a-year-ended-up-being-entered-in-race-tomorrow-38936427.html


February 07 2020 06:12 PM
A man thought a broken down racehorse his company owned had been put down a year ago but opened a newspaper to find it was entered to run at Naas racecourse tomorrow, the High Court has heard.

Andrew Hughes, manager of Thistle Bloodstock Ltd, was granted a temporary injunction today preventing the horse "The Tartan Spartan" from running in the 3.22pm Hurdle Handicap.

STRANGE ONE

Owning/buying a horse is a minefield for the average Joe and or a few of his mates.

Get into ownership - great craic is the propagandist bs.

Lambs to the slaughter appears to be the way for the (new)small owner. Chances are if the horse shows any potential it'll be campaigned in a manner so the owner will sell for a fraction of the price only for the nag to improve 2 stone plus in its next few outings for new trainer/connections.

Ted Walsh on "Luck on Sunday" at Leopardstown saying he hates syndicates. I'd say he does alright. Reasons he gave were "lads not paying their share" , "people getting upset because he might have met someone once and Ted didn't acknowledge/remember his name when he saw him again".

More like he might be able to fill one or two lads with crap but if there's a dozen or so all the right questions would be asked and it would be harder to screw them.

Maybe I'm being harsh on Ted and over conspiratorial when it comes to new owners being treated poorly.

And on the offchance that the so-called no good horse was sold; bad enough if it's a gelding, but if it's a quality filly/mare/colt then the bigger the ripoff.

I could be talking through my hat but I'd take evens that such scurrilous behaviour has happened at least three times in the last year. Hard to know - stories like this don't crop up too often in news outlets.

STB.

There's a lot of dodgy characters in the game. In the case of Andrew Hughes, it wasn't any ould joe soap. He is a bloodstock expert and private trainer that exclusively trains and breeds for Jimmy Long's Thistle Bloodstock who have the stallion, the Carbon Unit and a rake of mares.


No doubt money changed hands for that horse to be euthanised.

Daraa

https://twitter.com/MEMLAW1/status/1231615872797638661

I see the owner of Jason The Militant didnt collect the trophy after the race yesterday as it was sponsered by PP

The Mig

Mike Smith getting a whip ban for too many slaps in a country where they whip people as a punishment you gotta love that irony

califano

Anyone know where Steve Mellish has gone from RTV?. Havent seen him punditing there in a long while.

IAMAMORON

califano wrote: »

Anyone know where Steve Mellish has gone from RTV?. Havent seen him punditing there in a long while.

He did a Road to Cheltenham show a few weeks ago, so he is still working for them.

I would say they will use him more when the 3 yr old handicaps are starting in earnest. He is great at picking out improvers.

califano

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He did a Road to Cheltenham show a few weeks ago, so he is still working for them.

I would say they will use him more when the 3 yr old handicaps are starting in earnest. He is great at picking out improvers.

Did he. Yeah he seems more a flat aficionado for sure. Maybe he suits himself these days a bit more. However there has been an influx of new people since the branding change so I was wondering if he may have lost out in that mix.

IAMAMORON

califano wrote: »

Did he. Yeah he seems more a flat aficionado for sure. Maybe he suits himself these days a bit more. However there has been an influx of new people since the branding change so I was wondering if he may have lost out in that mix.

This is his Cheltenham show from a few weeks ago.

maximo31

califano wrote: »

Anyone know where Steve Mellish has gone from RTV?. Havent seen him punditing there in a long while.

Part 1 of 3 :
https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/bettingpeople-steve-mellish/

Daraa

Grand National is cancelled

https://twitter.com/RacingPost/status/1239650256297615367?s=20

HarshOstrich

Can anyone help me here.
My father opened a online paddy power account yesterday to do the lotto.
Because its euromillions you have to phone in and do the bet which was grand and the guy confirmed the bet is on.
2 numbers came out which is 100/1 but paddy power voided the bet and refunded the stake after the draw had taken place as the bet was placed after there 7.30 cut off(bet was placed at 7.48 and draw is at 8.
Stake was refunded at 8.15.
When he phoned up to find out what happened they said it was a new guy that took the bet and he shouldn't have done it as there cut off is 7.30 and there decision stands.
Does he have a leg to stand on here ?

Timberrrrrrrr

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Can anyone help me here.
My father opened a online paddy power account yesterday to do the lotto.
Because its euromillions you have to phone in and do the bet which was grand and the guy confirmed the bet is on.
2 numbers came out which is 100/1 but paddy power voided the bet and refunded the stake after the draw had taken place as the bet was placed after there 7.30 cut off(bet was placed at 7.48 and draw is at 8.
Stake was refunded at 8.15.
When he phoned up to find out what happened they said it was a new guy that took the bet and he shouldn't have done it as there cut off is 7.30 and there decision stands.
Does he have a leg to stand on here ?

Bet was taken by mistake after the cut off, stake was returned. No comeback for that imo as the bet was void.

IAMAMORON

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Can anyone help me here.
My father opened a online paddy power account yesterday to do the lotto.
Because its euromillions you have to phone in and do the bet which was grand and the guy confirmed the bet is on.
2 numbers came out which is 100/1 but paddy power voided the bet and refunded the stake after the draw had taken place as the bet was placed after there 7.30 cut off(bet was placed at 7.48 and draw is at 8.
Stake was refunded at 8.15.
When he phoned up to find out what happened they said it was a new guy that took the bet and he shouldn't have done it as there cut off is 7.30 and there decision stands.
Does he have a leg to stand on here ?

Probably, but they get really poxy if you need to get poxy with them.

I would kick up a bit. I am amazed that you are allowed take lottery bets over the phone, way too dodgy.

If one of their employees declared the bet was fine they should not be able to renege on payment. Kick up and good luck.

Ask them for a timeline printout, if they cannot provide you with this they need to be reported to the gambling commission.

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/ireland

HarshOstrich

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Bet was taken by mistake after the cut off, stake was returned. No comeback for that imo as the bet was void.

But they only voided the bet after it had won.
If it lost i doubt the money would of been returned

Timberrrrrrrr

HarshOstrich wrote: »

But they only voided the bet after it had won.
If it lost i doubt the money would of been returned

Happens every day of the week with races.

BoldReason

Call them and ask to speak to someone more senior. If no joy contact them on twitter tag some of their pr staff. Paul Binfield and the other lad that I can't think of his name and their main account.
Also worth reaching out to Paul Fairhead(@boycottbetfred) and Jimmy Justice(@gondorfhenry) and asking where you would stand. If no joy you can always open a case with IBAS but they are terrible to deal with and I would only go to them as a last resort.

Be as loud on social media as possible and you may get somewhere.

zimmermania

Bookies have no case to answer if the rules state clearly that lottery bets are not taken after 7.30.

It can seem unfair at times but as the same rule applies i(not knowing something is against the law) in legal cases it is up to us punters to know and understand the bookmakers rules.

HarshOstrich

zimmermania wrote: »

Bookies have no case to answer if the rules state clearly that lottery bets are not taken after 7.30.

It can seem unfair at times but as the same rule applies i(not knowing something is against the law) in legal cases it is up to us punters to know and understand the bookmakers rules.

All lotto bets for a specific draw must be placed and confirmed before the first number is drawn. If, for any reason, a bet is placed after the first number is drawn, the bet will be void and the stakes returned, regardless of whether the bet would have won or lost

I got that from the lotto terms and conditions on the app,no mention of cut off time.

ASOT

HarshOstrich wrote: »

All lotto bets for a specific draw must be placed and confirmed before the first number is drawn. If, for any reason, a bet is placed after the first number is drawn, the bet will be void and the stakes returned, regardless of whether the bet would have won or lost

I got that from the lotto terms and conditions on the app,no mention of cut off time.

I have checked there t&C's, nothing in there about a cut off point only what you have above.

Id be pushing back on why that was voided.

The lotto page is no longer active on the rules page either - https://www.paddypower.com/aboutUs/Betting.Rules

Imhof Tank

Racing Post gone.

Wonder will they continue with an online model like sporting life.

Edit: just saw the twitter link posted. Its supposedly only temporary

Daraa

https://twitter.com/RacingPost/status/1242867758183972865?s=20

Racing Post suspending publication

abarkie

Here's hoping something positive will come from this and someone comes to give it some competition in time

The Mig

Should be off to Liverpool in the morning but hey ho

Slattsy

The Mig wrote: »

Should be off to Liverpool in the morning but hey ho

To see them win the league. YNWA