Garda Medical for recruitment

thekopend

Padraigog wrote: »

On what grounds would a young man in his 20's fail his medical though?

Doesn't matter what age you are, some people are born with medical problems

Raider190

thekopend wrote: »

Doesn't matter what age you are, some people are born with medical problems

The criteria is based on the fact that they will require candidates to get through training without having to take any sick leave . Once you get to attestation you can get sick all you want

carzony

Padraigog wrote: »

On what grounds would a young man in his 20's fail his medical though?

Plenty of things from hearing, sight, teeth, blood ect.. Loads of problems you could have without knowing it.

carzony

Raider190 wrote: »

The criteria is based on the fact that they will require candidates to get through training without having to take any sick leave . Once you get to attestation you can get sick all you want

never knew that.. suppose it makes sense..

thekopend

Raider190 wrote: »

The criteria is based on the fact that they will require candidates to get through training without having to take any sick leave . Once you get to attestation you can get sick all you want

Well being medically suitable to carry out your job has a lot to do with it too, they don't want some one who is just out sick all the time and costing money.

Raider190

thekopend wrote: »

Well being medically suitable to carry out your job has a lot to do with it too, they don't want some one who is just out sick all the time and costing money.

Agree but like all stressful jobs it does bring its problems health wise . At the end of the day it's a gamble but in starting they are trying to get as many through the training stages without sick leave and get them started on their career path.

carzony

Raider190 wrote: »

Agree but like all stressful jobs it does bring its problems health wise . At the end of the day it's a gamble but in starting they are trying to get as many through the training stages without sick leave and get them started on their career path.

I'd say all the 'anti-social' hours they work really takes it's toll on the body. I mean leaving work and going to bed at 6 in the morning must be a strange experience.

billie1b

carzony wrote: »

I'd say all the 'anti-social' hours they work really takes it's toll on the body. I mean leaving work and going to bed at 6 in the morning must be a strange experience.

In my old job I used to start at 01:30 and finish at 11am, Sunday night to Friday night, week in, week out. Not too bad

thekopend

billie1b wrote: »

In my old job I used to start at 01:30 and finish at 11am, Sunday night to Friday night, week in, week out. Not too bad

Mix it up with different shifts and it won't be long shagging you up

Raider190

carzony wrote: »

I'd say all the 'anti-social' hours they work really takes it's toll on the body. I mean leaving work and going to bed at 6 in the morning must be a strange experience.

The toll can be significant suppose that why there is retirement at 30 years service . If your 20 at joining you could be retired at 50 still young enough to start another career.

The shifts now end at 7 not 6 . So 10 hours per working day is hard but with 6 days on and 4 days off ( providing your not in court on your days off) it does work well

Raider190

thekopend wrote: »

Mix it up with different shifts and it won't be long shagging you up

The secret is to get 8 hours sleep before each shift and then catch up on the days off. You do adjust but it is tough no doubt about it . Hard if you have a family and difficult to have a social life with friends who are not in the job. Hence the reason Gardai marry nurses or other shift workers

carzony

How many hours a week on average would gardai work? Attending court on days off must be a pain. Especially for minor things like non producers. I wouldn't mind marrying a few of those nurses btw

Raider190

carzony wrote: »

How many hours a week on average would gardai work? Attending court on days off must be a pain. Especially for minor things like non producers. I wouldn't mind marrying a few of those nurses btw

They can work a full 60 hours over the six day period excluding overtime should it be required

carzony

Raider190 wrote: »

They can work a full 60 hours over the six day period excluding overtime should it be required

I'd love that though. Give me a chance to get stuck in..

thekopend

carzony wrote: »

I'd love that though. Give me a chance to get stuck in..

Novelty won't be long wearing off, after awhile I think it will go from 'love it' to 'it's grand' for a lot of people

Raider190

thekopend wrote: »

Novelty won't be long wearing off, after awhile I think it will go from 'love it' to 'it's grand' for a lot of people

It's not for everyone but for some of us the boring 9 to 5 was never an option

StevieF3

Lads and ladies, genuine question although it is probably ridiculous, do you think being bow legged would have any affect on your medical?

thekopend

It won't help it anyway. I can see them being strict on every stage because they can afford to, whereas they couldn't in other campaigns

Santa Cruz

OscarWhiskey wrote: »

Jumping the gun here but I'd advise people to lay off cheap earphones a few months before the medical. Nurse in HQ (reserve medical) told me that my left ear was slightly weaker than right due to cheap earphones causing slight damage to ear drum...

This is very good advice. It would surprise you the number that actually fail the medical because of hearing and the use of earphones is a big contributor. A borderline case might get through by avoiding the use of earphones for a few months.

Also if you are close to the height limit get the medical as early in the day as possible and spend as much time beforehand lying on a hard surface.

mycro89

Santa Cruz wrote: »

This is very good advice. It would surprise you the number that actually fail the medical because of hearing and the use of earphones is a big contributor. A borderline case might get through by avoiding the use of earphones for a few months.

Also if you are close to the height limit get the medical as early in the day as possible and spend as much time beforehand lying on a hard surface.

God above...... The height restriction is gone with years...

thestar

I'd only be worried if your teeth looked very bad and were rotting in your head.. I would consider my hearing to be OK but when I hop into that booth I mess up. Its like I can hear the sound but cant specify which ear its going into, hopefully if I do get to a medical Ill get them syringed. The syringing must be done a couple of weeks before the hearing test my doctor told me.

Raider190

thestar wrote: »

I'd only be worried if your teeth looked very bad and were rotting in your head.. I would consider my hearing to be OK but when I hop into that booth I mess up. Its like I can hear the sound but cant specify which ear its going into, hopefully if I do get to a medical Ill get them syringed. The syringing must be done a couple of weeks before the hearing test my doctor told me.

Good advice there also try not to use earphones from now until the medical. That was the advice I received from the CMO

Santa Cruz

mycro89 wrote: »

God above...... The height restriction is gone with years...

In theory. The PCT AND PFT won't cover everything. I haven,t noticed a big increase in dwarfs joining up allright though

WilcoOut

thekopend wrote: »

Novelty won't be long wearing off, after awhile I think it will go from 'love it' to 'it's grand' for a lot of people

The old roster was more robust on the body then the new one i feel

the week of nights was tough to get through with one full days rest inbetween

the notorious change over was a killer

D Trent

Raider190 wrote: »

...........shift and then catch up on the days off.
Hence the reason Gardai marry nurses or other shift workers

Yeah, because that's the reason

Raider190

D Trent wrote: »

Yeah, because that's the reason

Didn't you know that

WilcoOut

D Trent wrote: »

Yeah, because that's the reason

It sure does help Dtrent

slingerz

WilcoOut wrote: »

The old roster was more robust on the body then the new one i feel

the week of nights was tough to get through with one full days rest inbetween

the notorious change over was a killer

What is the new roster as a matter of interest?

Thecameraman

True.

piercemc08

I'm into band 1 stage 3 but I'm concerned il fail the medial as I had a mastoid operation on my right ear as a child and have moderate hearing loss in that ear. It's never effected me in any aspect of my life but just concerned that il get that far and fail.

Shifty13

piercemc08 wrote: »

I'm into band 1 stage 3 but I'm concerned il fail the medial as I had a mastoid operation on my right ear as a child and have moderate hearing loss in that ear. It's never effected me in any aspect of my life but just concerned that il get that far and fail.

Best thing to do, is go get an ear test and find out your hearing proficiency level! H1 is the best and I am pretty sure that's what they look for. (Could be wrong)

But go take a test, it's better to know now. you might be able to do something about it.

carrig4life

do we have to pee in a cup in front of someone, I get severe stagefright....

Surely we'll be left into a bathroom?



genuine question

Canyon86

carrig4life wrote: »

do we have to pee in a cup in front of someone, I get severe stagefright....

Surely we'll be left into a bathroom?



genuine question

Ya they send you into a bathroom carraig,

redout

carrig4life wrote: »

do we have to pee in a cup in front of someone, I get severe stagefright....

Surely we'll be left into a bathroom?



genuine question

They will probably insist on the door being left open though incase you attempt to tamper with the sample etc. That is my experience of doing them.

ann.lewis

redout wrote: »

They will probably insist on the door being left open though incase you attempt to tamper with the sample etc. That is my experience of doing them.

Awh really ?

They don't. Off ye go and go for your widdle..no one looks

redout

ann.lewis wrote: »

Awh really ?

They don't. Off ye go and go for your widdle..no one looks

I don't mean that they actually sit there looking at you. Any time I have done them (and that would be a lot) the door stays unlocked and ajar. It is used as a deterrent. Most people who fail is down to drugs i.e. marijuana, cocaine in their system. These are the sorts who would chance their arm and conceal a sample in a small container etc.

ann.lewis

redout wrote: »

I don't mean that they actually sit there looking at you. Any time I have done them (and that would be a lot) the door stays unlocked and ajar. It is used as a deterrent. Most people who fail is down to drugs i.e. marijuana, cocaine in their system. These are the sorts who would chance their arm and conceal a sample in a small container etc.

The door wasn't open when I did mine anyhow

northside girl

ann.lewis wrote: »

The door wasn't open when I did mine anyhow

Maybe we just appeared very trustworthy that day ann But on a serious note, no they don't leave the door open. They give you a jar and send you in to do your business and then you hand them the sample and that's about it.

ann.lewis

northside girl wrote: »

Maybe we just appeared very trustworthy that day ann But on a serious note, no they don't leave the door open. They give you a jar and send you in to do your business and then you hand them the sample and that's about it.

That's true Girl.. we appeared very trustworthy
Yip, it's pretty straight forward enough.

Hitchroun

Raider190 wrote: »

The toll can be significant suppose that why there is retirement at 30 years service . If your 20 at joining you could be retired at 50 still young enough to start another career.

The shifts now end at 7 not 6 . So 10 hours per working day is hard but with 6 days on and 4 days off ( providing your not in court on your days off) it does work well

Minimum retirement age is 55 now for entrants past 2004.

Raider190

Hitchroun wrote: »

Minimum retirement age is 55 now for entrants past 2004.

Is this the retirement age for the newer contracts . Are the older contracts 50 years of age

Hitchroun

Raider190 wrote: »

Is this the retirement age for the newer contracts . Are the older contracts 50 years of age

Any contract PRE 2004 is retirement age 50, POST 2004 is retirement age 55.

thekopend

Each with min 30 years for full pension

kev-bt

How did soon to be recuits find the medical? Were doctor strict on BMI and was there much checked on the dental side of things?

Shifty13

kev-bt wrote: »

How did soon to be recuits find the medical? Were doctor strict on BMI and was there much checked on the dental side of things?

if you are slightly over the BMI, they took a hip and waist measurement to make sure your waist is not bigger than your hips.

Dental was a quick look in the mouth to make sure you have no serious problems.

Overall it was fine.

boolya68

hi just quick question. with the dental I have a small hole in the tooth at the back of the mouth, it causes no problem to me at all and in last check-up my dentist said there was no need to extract it as it is causing no problem. medical is in a few days, just wondering if anyone knows if this will be ok thanks

Hank26

boolya68 wrote: »

hi just quick question. with the dental I have a small hole in the tooth at the back of the mouth, it causes no problem to me at all and in last check-up my dentist said there was no need to extract it as it is causing no problem. medical is in a few days, just wondering if anyone knows if this will be ok thanks

I had a similar situation with a molar at the back and got it extracted as a precaution but the doctor didn't even spend 3 seconds looking in my mouth during my medical

jarvisk12

Does anyone know if varicose veins are a problem for the medical, I saw it mentioned that they may be a reason to fail?

therecruit

Any know if you fail on weight are you out or do you get a chance to drop it and then come back?

therecruit

Hi Guys,

Had my medical today and passed (well was deferred pending a letter from my GP so not worried). Its grand was worried about BMI as it was just over 30 but still passed. Id say slow your breathing for the hearing test as some of the sounds are quite low.

The rest was more or less the same as any GP would normally check. The only other advise id give is that they are still getting through a lot of people so ake sure your phone is charged as it can be a long wait.


There was a reserve working in the medical building, didnt realise reserves worked in HQ.