AVB has been sacked, Sherwood appointed

SantryRed

eagle eye wrote: »

Sherwood has built himself a very good reputation over the last couple of years at spurs. He started out with the underage players but got involved at every level to learn the ropes. He has been mentioned over the last 12 months as a potential candidate to move into management away from Tottenham but he has gotten the big job sooner than expected.
Having been Captain of Blackburn when they won the Premier League he clearly has great leadership qualities about him, he always comes across as a bright guy too. I think he will do well there.

You do know his u21s team are 18th in the table right now?

SherlockWatson

Nobody has seen him manage a team before, whether you think he's capable or not, to write him off before he gets a chance is just stupid.

Francie Barrett

Leroy42 wrote: »

In any other line of work no top job would go to a guy with so little experience.

You don't get it, Sherwood is an interim manager in everything but name. If, in the unlikely event he can get top 4, Levy will claim the appointment as a masterstroke of his. If he fails to achieve top 4, Levy will claim Sherwood was just a stop gap for Van Gaal/Capello/whoever is flavour of the day.

The real shambles in this situation was sacking Redknapp in the first place. What ever you say about his approach, his team played the right way, they were getting results, and they were progressing.

If anything, Levy should be turfed out for sacking a proven manager and bringing an utter spoofer like AVB in.

Leroy42 wrote: »

Europa Cup winning manager

Increasingly, it looks like AVB may just have been a lucky manager.

In his one season at Porto, he inherited what must be one of the best Porto teams in history (his team contained Moutinho, Falcao, Hulk, etc.) - £200M of talent alone, not to mention a cadre of other Champions League quality players. AVB didn't bring in any of these players and for me, it wasn't surprising that they could dominate the Portuguese league and bring home a Europa League competition.

Sir Gallagher

Jamie Rednapp on Sherwood

"Sherwood wownt tawk tactics, ee'll tawk foo'bawl. Ee’s no bluffer, ee’s a foo'bawl man and ee’s exactly wot Spurs need."

Apparently tactics aren't football.

smileyj1987

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Jamie Rednapp on Sherwood

"Sherwood wownt tawk tactics, ee'll tawk foo'bawl. Ee’s no bluffer, ee’s a foo'bawl man and ee’s exactly wot Spurs need."

Apparently tactics aren't football.

Rednapp is a clown !!!

Dempsey

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Jamie Rednapp on Sherwood

"Sherwood wownt tawk tactics, ee'll tawk foo'bawl. Ee’s no bluffer, ee’s a foo'bawl man and ee’s exactly wot Spurs need."

Apparently tactics aren't football.

Basically, I was right, Levy was wrong statement tbh

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Jamie Rednapp on Sherwood

"Sherwood wownt tawk tactics, ee'll tawk foo'bawl. Ee’s no bluffer, ee’s a foo'bawl man and ee’s exactly wot Spurs need."

Apparently tactics aren't football.

Aorry - but is that supposed to be a scouse, geordie, East end or Hawaiian accent?

SherlockWatson

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Aorry - but is that supposed to be a scouse, geordie, East end or Hawaiian accent?

Looked French to me, hard to tell.

Leroy42

Interim in all but name! Why not get a proven manager to fill that spot, like Benetiz did at Chelsea. In all likelyhood Sherwood won't get Spurs into the Top 4 which makes attracting new players and a new manager next year even more difficult.

Liverpool are progressing, as are Everton. Utd as struggling so Spurs shoose this time to take 6 months downtime?

Sir Gallagher

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Aorry - but is that supposed to be a scouse, geordie, East end or Hawaiian accent?

Leave my useless attempt at phonetic cockney out of this and lets get back to slagging Rednapp, which is what Christmas should be about really.

Francie Barrett

As an impartial observer, can I just say how dare Tim Sherwood go to Old Trafford and get a result against one of their biggest rivals. This bull**** tactic of winning matches with players playing freely and to the best of their abilities is the biggest pile of sh!the I have ever seen.

Sherwood out!

SantryRed

Francie Barrett wrote: »

As an impartial observer, can I just say how dare Tim Sherwood go to Old Trafford and get a result against one of their biggest rivals. This bull**** tactic of winning matches with players playing freely and to the best of their abilities is the biggest pile of sh!the I have ever seen.

Sherwood out!

AVB won there last season too.

The Narrator

Sherwood now has the best win percentage of any Spurs manager in history. :P

Francie Barrett

Watched Spurs today, as a Liverpool fan, I can honest say I am now starting to get worried about them. Eriksen seems to have been given a much more free role than he had under AVB and for me, he really has started looking like the maestro that he did when with Ajax. Even though Adebayor didn't score, he showed his quality with a lovely headed assist for Eriksen's goal. To think that imbecile AVB forced him to train with the kids!

Only worry with Spurs is the lack of goals from the strikers. I still think they will come but Sherwood will really have to work hard to rebuild the confidence that AVB shattered.

callaway92

Ya agree with the above poster.

Sherwood together with the return of Adebayor and regular places for Eriksen, Dembélé and now Bentaleb playing well too all seem to be a breath of fresh air for Spurs. Looking good for them.

K4t

If Palace hadn't spectacularly missed a penalty it could have been a completely different story.

Lightbulb Sun

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Watched Spurs today, as a Liverpool fan, I can honest say I am now starting to get worried about them. Eriksen seems to have been given a much more free role than he had under AVB and for me, he really has started looking like the maestro that he did when with Ajax. Even though Adebayor didn't score, he showed his quality with a lovely headed assist for Eriksen's goal. To think that imbecile AVB forced him to train with the kids!

Only worry with Spurs is the lack of goals from the strikers. I still think they will come but Sherwood will really have to work hard to rebuild the confidence that AVB shattered.

Thought Spurs played poorly for most of the first half today, better in the second.

Soldado is not in the zone at all. Defoe scored today but he's off to Canada soon. That's a decent option gone and can't see us finding a better replacement in January.

everdead.ie

Crisis was never much of a crisis spurs were still racking up the points.
I'm not sure why they have been so thoroughly written off never going to win the league but never in danger of really dropping out of top 5/6

ThunbergsAreGo

Their first half performance was dreadful today, much improved in the second

CSF

They still don't look organised at all. They've been getting the honeymoon points but if Sherwood doesnt wise up I can't see that continuing.

Francie Barrett

Lightbulb Sun wrote: »

Thought Spurs played poorly for most of the first half today, better in the second.

Soldado is not in the zone at all. Defoe scored today but he's off to Canada soon. That's a decent option gone and can't see us finding a better replacement in January.

For me, Spurs controlled the game and the Crystal Palace penalty came against the run of play.

I think Eriksen looks like he has the potential to be absolutely key to Spurs. When he got on the ball today, everything pivoted around him, and I am not surprised to now see him racking up assists and goals under Sherwood. I think AVB's system of hoofball just didn't suit him. There's no point of launching long balls over his head for an isolated Soldado to try and chase down. Even though Soldado hasn't been among the goals just yet, he looks a much happier figure now than what he did under AVB. The goals will come. Also, Sherwood seems to have a much better tactical understanding of what his players can do. For example, I've seen Lennon doing what he does best - running at his man, one on one and whipping in crosses. Eriksen has been on the ball much much more, distributing and recycling play much faster than what happened under AVB. Adebayor has been a revelation - for a player that AVB threw out to trash, he has been excellent.

Spurs aren't there yet, and I doubt Sherwood is the long-term solution - but if he continues on the path that he has been, I think he should leave a decent team for whoever is behind to make a push for 4th next season.

kevthegaff

firstly palace were the better team in the first half but i dont think soldado/ade work well together, i think they need a more withdrawn striker in the rooney mould(hard to find). I was impressed by the young lad in midfield tho, very good

Skylinehead

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Watched Spurs today, as a Liverpool fan, I can honest say I am now starting to get worried about them. Eriksen seems to have been given a much more free role than he had under AVB and for me, he really has started looking like the maestro that he did when with Ajax. Even though Adebayor didn't score, he showed his quality with a lovely headed assist for Eriksen's goal. To think that imbecile AVB forced him to train with the kids!

Only worry with Spurs is the lack of goals from the strikers. I still think they will come but Sherwood will really have to work hard to rebuild the confidence that AVB shattered.

Judging by Sherwoods utterly inept tactical showing against Arsenal last week (4-4-2, two attack-minded central midfielders with Capoue on the bench), I'm not particularly worried by them.

Paully D

Skylinehead wrote: »

Judging by Sherwoods utterly inept tactical showing against Arsenal last week (4-4-2, two attack-minded central midfielders with Capoue on the bench), I'm not particularly worried by them.

He's the almost stereotypical British manager. He'll play a Mike Bassett ''4-4-fucking-2'' every week and won't be able to adapt tactically at all. As you've somewhat alluded to, when you come up against the likes of Arsene Wenger that approach just isn't going to work. It's not the 1990's any more and the game has moved on.

He seems a very nice bloke but I'd be very surprised if Spurs don't already have their next manager ready to take over in the summer after the season or World Cup.

quarryman

Mr Alan wrote: »

he will not be a real success at Spurs. He may do ok for a few weeks, but anything more than that is incredibly unlikely.

You're really not that good at predicting how good managers will be, are you?

Pro. F

quarryman wrote: »

You're really not that good at predicting how good managers will be, are you?

You know that it's still just a few weeks since Sherwood was appointed and Al made that statement don't you?

Grayditch

quarryman wrote: »

You're really not that good at predicting how good managers will be, are you?

Haha. Did they put up a Tim Sherwood statute, yet? It's about time.

mike65

So then Tactics Tim, how's he doing?

His interview after the result today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGygbrAHK4

Lucas Hood

Can anyone see him being around after the summer ? I can't.

Some of his selections in games have been baffling tbh.

Dempsey

He blames the players & has a pop at the expectations of the board with the squad he has available to him. Takes no responsibility himself though...

Left Back on the Bench

Dempsey wrote: »

He blames the players & has a pop at the expectations of the board with the squad he has available to him. Takes no responsibility himself though...

The players were to blame. And his tactics were working till vertonghans mistake

RasTa

Ref killed it too.

ctrl-alt-delete

'I aint gonna forget about this by the time we get to the motorway'

'Have you told them what you think'

'Yeah, onto the next, that's the nature of the game'

That is a bad interview for me, some players will not respond well to that. Either ways Tim was never going to be there long term.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

'I aint gonna forget about this by the time we get to the motorway'

What motorway is he planning on hitting...?

Richard Hillman

Is Jamie Redknapp his agent? Sherwood couldn't do a thing wrong according to him yesterday. It was embarrassing. There is clearly some sort of personal relationship between them.

Too Tough To Die

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Is Jamie Redknapp his agent? Sherwood couldn't do a thing wrong according to him yesterday. It was embarrassing. There is clearly some sort of personal relationship between them.

He's an associate of the Redknapp syndicate.

Augmerson

Weird interview but he also seemed gutted. I guess he knows himself he won't be staying on now after that game.

bad2dabone

reading the spurs forum a lot of upset fans there understandably.

Looks like spurs are in a bit of a negative spiral perhaps?

greendom

bad2dabone wrote: »

reading the spurs forum a lot of upset fans there understandably.

Looks like spurs are in a bit of a negative spiral perhaps?

Don't tempt fate - that was us exactly 12 months ago !!

bad2dabone

greendom wrote: »

Don't tempt fate - that was us exactly 12 months ago !!

true - forget i said it!!

(I just love that negative spiral guy got the sack!)

smileyj1987

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Is Jamie Redknapp his agent? Sherwood couldn't do a thing wrong according to him yesterday. It was embarrassing. There is clearly some sort of personal relationship between them.

In fairness to Tim Sherwood he has done a good job since he became the manager of spurs . So I think some of the stick he gets is very harsh .

CSF

smileyj1987 wrote: »

In fairness to Tim Sherwood he has done a good job since he became the manager of spurs . So I think some of the stick he gets is very harsh .

He really hasn't. He had the honeymoon period that most managers that come into a club with decent players mid-season get. He has blatantly been shown up as lacking tactical ability since then.

opr

Opr

Richard Hillman

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

He's an associate of the Redknapp syndicate.

I should have known

rob316

The club is a joke, I lived in London for short while and Spurs fans first priority is to be better than Arsenal. If arsenal finished 6th and they finished 5th it would be considered a great season.
Levy hasn't got a clue, Spurs had a fantastic team under Redknapp but instead of going out buying established stars to add to a very good squad he wanted to pick up great deals he can flip and make a huge profit on, feeding his ego of the great business man he and the media thinks he is. Its a well run club financially but that's where the well run part ends.
They absolutely wasted the Bale money and are now back to where they were before Redknapp took over.

A small time club and always will be.

golfball37

rob316 wrote: »

The club is a joke, I lived in London for short while and Spurs fans first priority is to be better than Arsenal. If arsenal finished 6th and they finished 5th it would be considered a great season.
Levy hasn't got a clue, Spurs had a fantastic team under Redknapp but instead of going out buying established stars to add to a very good squad he wanted to pick up great deals he can flip and make a huge profit on, feeding his ego of the great business man he and the media thinks he is. Its a well run club financially but that's where the well run part ends.
They absolutely wasted the Bale money and are now back to where they were before Redknapp took over.

A small time club and always will be.

A small time club would be ecstatic to be 5 points clear of Man Utd.

Spurs may well be shoddy and circus like at times, but small time they are not. Arsenal are a great benchmark who achieved great things in the last 20 years. They are also our rivals. Wanting to finish ahead of them is nothing to apologise for.

bad2dabone

golfball37 wrote: »

Arsenal are a great benchmark who achieved great things in the last 20 years. They are also our rivals. Wanting to finish ahead of them is nothing to apologise for.

Likewise it’s massively importand for Arsenal to finish ahead of spurs (19 straight years if we do it again this year).
Topping your local rivals means a lot – especially since spurs got so very close to toppling us.

rob316

golfball37 wrote: »

A small time club would be ecstatic to be 5 points clear of Man Utd.

Spurs may well be shoddy and circus like at times, but small time they are not. Arsenal are a great benchmark who achieved great things in the last 20 years. They are also our rivals. Wanting to finish ahead of them is nothing to apologise for.

That is nothing to boast about united have been far and away the most underperforming team in the league this season.

I call them small time because they are historically and in recent times a selling club. Spurs has consistently sold there best players, while the profits have been handsome, stability is the key to success or bucket loads of money ala City, Chelsea which Spurs don't have.

They had there chance to crack the top 4 and be a mainstay but that is gone now and they won't get a chance for a while again imo. They had a manager the players believed in and delivered good football but Levy couldn't get along and pushed the reset button on something very special.

The sleeping giant of Liverpool is waking up now. They have the clout, size and it looks like the manager to consistently be in the Top 4 again and challenge for the league. Next season will be an almighty battle for the Top 4 between Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Man United and Liverpool.
Teams like Tottenham and Everton will be left behind even further.

This all just my opinion though but I'm sure others will see it too.

LuckyLloyd

golfball37 wrote: »

A small time club would be ecstatic to be 5 points clear of Man Utd.

Spurs may well be shoddy and circus like at times, but small time they are not. Arsenal are a great benchmark who achieved great things in the last 20 years. They are also our rivals. Wanting to finish ahead of them is nothing to apologise for.

A small time club might have an attitude that style of football is more important than results though.