Ming Flanagan this morning

kumate_champ07

Seedy Arling wrote: »

It's more how he acts. Being all high and mighty and then when exposed, like the time with the penalty points, he tries to hang everyone.

Utterly dislikeable individual.

that was bad BUT people are human and make mistakes, even the good guys

My name is URL

HerrScheisse wrote: »

The least you can do, is respect the office. Wear your pink atrocities and pink pyjamas, and bear your dirty glasses of p1ss water in your own time. Not during the paid time of the public.

Did you even watch the video or are you just reacting based on prejudice?

He was making a point about water quality, and the fact that the public, who also pay for the salaries of politicians, are (in certain parts of the country) going to be forced to pay for water which is basically unfit for consumption.

He made that point well regardless of how you feel about him.

And he could have used a far worse yet technically correct term to describe that water.. since Cryptosporidium enters water supplies through faeces, not piss.

I suppose yourself and the others giving out about his choice of language would be quite happy to pay for a water service where the water isn't even clean enough to brush your teeth with or bathe in?

HerrScheisse

I repeat: I long for a politician that can make their point with dignity.

We all remember that episode that cursed out Stagg. Would you call that a decent level of parliamentary discourse? Or you rather that problems are solved in a gruff manner - man to man?

I care not for their dress sense but their level of professionalism. And the way they behave reflects that.

Who can be against good water quality? Only an idiot would be against it. But Sweet Jesus, can't we have a minimum level of dignity and intelligence in making that point?

Or you rather that all society follows that example?

mikom

HerrScheisse wrote: »

I repeat: I long for a politician that can make their point with dignity.

We all remember that episode that cursed out Stagg. Would you call that a decent level of parliamentary discourse? Or you rather that problems are solved in a gruff manner - man to man?

I care not for their dress sense but their level of professionalism. And the way they behave reflects that.

Who can be against good water quality? Only an idiot would be against it. But Sweet Jesus, can't we have a minimum level of dignity and intelligence in making that point?

Or you rather that all society follows that example?

You need stunts when dealing with cunts.
And by god is the government full of them.

In other news I heard that Roscommon crypo water is now to be delivered to houses in bottles kitted out with little three piece suits.
It's still bad for your health, but damnnnnn it looks sharp.

HerrScheisse

Cienciano wrote: »

How is wearing a suit respecting the office they hold? I think doing a good job and genuinely having the publics interest at heart is respecting the office, not wearing a piece of cloth tied around their neck and wearing matching trousers/jacket.

Like it or not, certain standards are expected in public office. Otherwise you have gurning idiots wearing canary yellow suits to European conferences.

Would you dress as a Leprachaun to work? It is after all just a rag around your neck, so long as you do your job reasonably?

Ah fvck it! There should be a basic level of decency and civility in society, if it cannot be observed in the Dail, then what is the alternative I ask?

My name is URL

HerrScheisse wrote: »

Who can be against good water quality? Only an idiot would be against it. But Sweet Jesus, can't we have a minimum level of dignity and intelligence in making that point?

Or you rather that all society follows that example?

It's not as if this is an issue that arose overnight. People have been making the same point for a number of years now, and the problem and concerns of people have been roundly ignored by those in government. Where's the 'dignity' there?

HerrScheisse

mikom wrote: »

You need stunts when dealing with cunts.
And by god is the government full of them.

In other news I heard that Roscommon crypo water is now to be delivered to houses in bottles kitted out with little three piece suits.
It's still bad for your health, but damnnnnn it looks sharp.

Your first two lines made me laugh

HerrScheisse

My name is URL wrote: »

It's not as if this is an issue that arose overnight. People have been making the same point for a number of years now, and the problem and concerns of people have been roundly ignored by those in government. Where's the 'dignity' there?

If every problem in every consituency is solved in the same way, you will have a Dail overflowing with faeces and piss and effluence, and the only survivors will be the scum that floats to the top. As scum always does. Then the Ceann Comhairle will be roaring with his customary baboon arse red face - "WE HAVE FLOATERS, WE HAVE FLOATERS! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!"

If that is the type of society you want, then play on Maestro, play on.

Cienciano

HerrScheisse wrote: »

Like it or not, certain standards are expected in public office. Otherwise you have gurning idiots wearing canary yellow suits to European conferences.

Would you dress as a Leprachaun to work? It is after all just a rag around your neck, so long as you do your job reasonably?

Ah fvck it! There should be a basic level of decency and civility in society, if it cannot be observed in the Dail, then what is the alternative I ask?

Well, we had idiots running the country wearing "respectable" suits for the last 50 years. How is that working out? If the alternative was politicians wearing leprechaun suits, but doing a good job running the country, caring about the people that vote rather than their careers, then bring on the green tights.

NuckingFacker

This guff grates my gash tbh. I see it every day - be the biggest mouthpiece, tosser, gangster, useless bag of wind, but wear a nice suit and get the gruig coiffed and everyone fawns at your feet and remarks on your "gravitas".
Wear a pair of jeans and a jumper and cure cancer of the moon, and 70% of people will only notice the jeans and jumper and turn up their noses. I've met more scumbags in suits than in tracksuits tbh, and if the water is pi55, then it's pi55. Call it what it is.

HerrScheisse

Ming did a "Howard Hughes". He brought a jar of piss to work.

HerrScheisse

Cienciano wrote: »

Well, we had idiots running the country wearing "respectable" suits for the last 50 years. How is that working out? If the alternative was politicians wearing leprechaun suits, but doing a good job running the country, caring about the people that vote rather than their careers, then bring on the green tights.

I would not call a canary yellow suit respectable. Nor mohair while on that subject.

mikom

HerrScheisse wrote: »

I would not call a canary yellow suit respectable. Nor mohair while on that subject.

I have Mary Robinson on line one for you Flutt.

NuckingFacker

HerrScheisse wrote: »

I would not call a canary yellow suit respectable. Nor mohair while on that subject.

They can wear any old scheisse that they like as far as I'm concerned. If they got their hands and clothes dirty a bit, it might serve as a reality check. You cannot function in reality tarted up in a suit - you need an environment that isolates you from muck and dirt. And the car to go along with it. After a few years of this, you vanish up your own hole, it's inevitable. Once up there, you begin to believe that clothes maketh the man. Actions maketh the man, all the rest is fluff.

HerrScheisse

At least she could speak!

No "Erms...ehss...dose...etc"

mikom

HerrScheisse wrote: »

At least she could speak!

No "Erms...ehss...dose...etc"

Perhaps he could detail his bowel movements for you.
Would you prefer that?

HerrScheisse

NuckingFacker wrote: »

They can wear any old scheisse that they like as far as I'm concerned. If they got their hands and clothes dirty a bit, it might serve as a reality check. You cannot function in reality tarted up in a suit - you need an environment that isolates you from muck and dirt. And the car to go along with it. After a few years of this, you vanish up your own hole, it's inevitable. Once up there, you begin to believe that clothes maketh the man. Actions maketh the man, all the rest is fluff.

You are a man after my own scheisse. Once you believe your scheisse is better than others, then you have goons like Edward Gibbon roaring on about the decline of society and how it is all related to the lead in the pîpes. If only! Dublin water pipes have been leaking at least 25% a year! They are leakier than a virgin on prom night!

In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is King.

HerrScheisse

mikom wrote: »

Perhaps he could detail his bowel movements for you.
Would you prefer that?

If I wanted to hear the ablutions of a grubby silver flanelled shyster, I would have have taken a saunter behind the walls of well known bar in Drumcondra.

mattser

HerrScheisse wrote: »

It has nothing to do with dress sense but respect for the office they hold.

That office they hold, without getting all bleary eyed and overly patriotic, is also not without its pitfalls, but still it is an office that has been paid for with bloodshed. With sacrifice. With destruction of the city and the deaths of many innocent civilians.

You are a representative of the people, and of the people that died to allow you to be representative, whether combatant or not.

The least you can do, is respect the office. Wear your pink atrocities and pink pyjamas, and bear your dirty glasses of p1ss water in your own time. Not during the paid time of the public.

I long for a politician that can make their point with dignity. Is that too much to wish for at this reflective time of year?

Precisely. Our hallowed halls are in a league of their own when it comes to looking cheap in the civilised parliamentary world.

HerrScheisse

mikom wrote: »

Perhaps he could detail his bowel movements for you.
Would you prefer that?

You are one sick puppy!

Why would anyone want that? Perhaps a pub in Drumcondra is willling to accept that foul faux fenian deposit, but not I sir, not I!

mikom

HerrScheisse wrote: »

You are one sick puppy!

Why would anyone want that? Perhaps a pub in Drumcondra is willling to accept that foul faux fenian deposit, but not I sir, not I!

I'd say your heart is all a flutter at the thought of it.

MaxFlower

SDTimeout wrote: »

In 15 years when we look at how far other countries who acted on things, like Iceland when they went into recession. We will look back at our present selves and be ashamed.

Ireland is a backwards nation, Ming Flanagan speaks a lot of sense and he is just constantly dumped on by the media and people who think they are more well off than they actually are.

This is coming from a political family but I genuinely think there's something wrong with you if you actually want to be a politician. There's an ego shift or tilt that isn't found in normal people. A sense of self importance that your one voice should be heard over and over. People are being born into parties and no body can choose for themselves anymore.

The best politicians are the people who don't want to be politicians.

http://www.messynessychic.com/2012/11/28/meet-the-coolest-mayor-in-the-world/

I wanted to be a politician or at least I used to. I actually thought honesty/integrity would stand to me, that wanting to represent the electorate and do some good was a noble endeavor. It was not for egotistical reasons, I am fairly reserved and don't care for the spotlight or public speaking. I now know I was delusional.

The system as it stands in this country is dysfunctional and will chew up and spit out anyone with even the slightest idealistic aspirations. If you are not in politics to agree with the favoured opinions and satisfy your own agenda, I believe you are wasting your time.

In relation to Ming and his 'stunt', it was a wholly appropriate gesture when one considers the standard of water we receive. The 'act of vandalism' lies in what is pumped down the pipes every day in this country to unsuspecting citizens who's taxes have more than covered the cost of producing this 'glorified piss' in the first place.

I thought he was quiet reserved and dignified in his actions, and this if from someone who is far from his biggest fan.

chopper6

There's something about this man that i dislike...i cant put my finger on it exactly but he makes me feel a bit sick every time i see him.

HerrScheisse

mikom wrote: »

I'd say your heart is all a flutter at the thought of it.

If you like I could collect such foul desposit in a jam jar, possibly I might even entice the mohaired owner to sign it, for your said significance.

maringo

chopper6 wrote: »

There's something about this man that i dislike...i cant put my finger on it exactly but he makes me feel a bit sick every time i see him.

Bet you'd feel a lot sicker if you drank the water in Roscommon :eek:

chopper6

maringo wrote: »

Bet you'd feel a lot sicker if you drank the water in Roscommon :eek:

I'd be more concerned with his manky hands all over the glass.

mikom

HerrScheisse wrote: »

If you like I could collect such foul desposit in a jam jar, possibly I might even entice the mohaired owner to sign it, for your said significance.

Only if he signs it John Biffo.

barone

the look on the face when he receives the jar of water speaks volumes,they dont care about issues that dont affect them,its a fact.

MRnotlob606

ah of course we get the usual mantras, "blah blah socialist, "look what hes wearing".I couldn't care if he turned up in his long johns as long as he makes a valid point I don't care. He made a valid proposition which is that services like water shouldn't be privatised and spotted the irony that the water was contaminated

P_1

How on earth are people's noses out of joint because the man has long hair, a beard and doesn't wear a suit and tie?