Liebherr thread

dobman88

Here ye go lads, a dedicated thread. Go nuts.

carchaeologist

Keep it civil please.

FourFourRED

They make nice fridges.

dobman88

Dya think they get through a lot of yellow paint? Be some craic painting the crane :pac:

Sir Arthur Daley

Be some loss to alot of people if it closes, in paper today they said they are not bluffing either.

dobman88

After reading what some of the strikers workers said on here it sounds like they want it to close. Afraid of a days work. They must think the dole is great craic. More money heading back to Germany

Sir Arthur Daley

They have so much money invested into the premises plus what they own in killarney is another story, will they plug the plug on all this investment?

Sir Arthur Daley

dobman88 wrote: »

After reading what some of the strikers workers said on here it sounds like they want it to close. Afraid of a days work. They must think the dole is great craic. More money heading back to Germany

Alot of staff there earn a weeks dole in one day so why they afraid of work?

dobman88

WikiHow wrote: »

Alot of staff there earn a weeks dole in one day so why they afraid of work?

Who knows! Just from reading some post, they are complaining about working!! Doesn't make sense. Obviously had it too good in the boom

Sir Arthur Daley

dobman88 wrote: »

Who knows! Just from reading some post, they are complaining about working!! Doesn't make sense. Obviously had it too good in the boom

I dont think their wages would have been hugely different to now, they be crying when its gone, wont Joe be doing some counseling then? :P

michael999999

WikiHow wrote: »

They have so much money invested into the premises plus what they own in killarney is another story, will they plug the plug on all this investment?

They make Billions worldwide every year. The money they would lose by closing Killarney would be barely noticed.

There are going to be a lot of shocked people coming into the real world if it does close.

Good luck finding another job that pays you a 35% bonus just for doing your days work!

groovie

Aodhagan wrote: »

They make nice fridges.

Yes indeed they do.

Sir Arthur Daley

Liebherr initially wanted to be in kenmare to be at a sea port, i always questioned the logistics of killarney and the practicality of it, is it up to Tarbert they go with finished products?

3 the square

WikiHow wrote: »

Liebherr initially wanted to be in kenmare to be at a sea port, i always questioned the logistics of killarney and the practicality of it, is it up to Tarbert they go with finished products?

fenit.

Axel Lamp

Can anyone enlighten me to what the company want in return for the backdated payrise?

Southern Dandy

It is without a doubt a bluff by them, most factory's spin these webs when **** hits the fan. The cost of closing, shipping machinery, hiring new staff, training and building or buying and retro fitting a new plant in a new country would be ridiculous. Let alone all the down time while the transition takes place.

It is more viable for them to pay out. While liebherr makes billions it does not take a Math genius to know that closing the plant and setting up a new plant is quite costly.

This is the bloody joys of working in a factory.

michael999999

Southern Dandy wrote: »

It is without a doubt a bluff by them, most factory's spin these webs when **** hits the fan. The cost of closing, shipping machinery, hiring new staff, training and building or buying and retro fitting a new plant in a new country would be ridiculous. Let alone all the down time while the transition takes place.

It is more viable for them to pay out. While liebherr makes billions it does not take a Math genius to know that closing the plant and setting up a new plant is quite costly.

This is the bloody joys of working in a factory.

They have factorys in Germany the size of killarney town. Over 30000 employees working there. Moving would not be a big problem as they have the structures already in place there.

Keeping killarney open is more to do with sentimintality because of the family ties.

The people on strike just have to look at the aeronautical place that closed during the week with the loss of over 400 jobs. When the multinational decides to pull out, its fast and painless for them . Not so much for the employees.

Southern Dandy

If your on about Lufthansa Technic they closed on account of a gradual decline in Revenue not to mention competing with a number of firms that overhaul the engines of airliners.

Liebherr seems to be booming by all accounts, I doubt they would pull the plug over a industrial despute if business was poor I'd be saying something different. I could be wrong but let's hope I am not, while I don't work there, I know that feeling of inpending doom lurking around a plant between gossip and heresay only where I was closed and moved production to asia. It is not a nice feeling and it is sad for people working there whether it is a bluff or not.

Sir Arthur Daley

They went on strike because of not getting a 2.5% pay rise since 2009, why did they wait till 2013 to resolve this matter?

michael999999

WikiHow wrote: »

They went on strike because of not getting a 2.5% pay rise since 2009, why did they wait till 2013 to resolve this matter?

Because a few union heads seen a new production shed being built and thought they could get a few quid off liebherr aswell!

Sir Arthur Daley

michael999999 wrote: »

Because a few union heads seen a new production shed being built and thought they could get a few quid off liebherr aswell!

I heard they had recently expanded alright, how did they think they could get extra money though?

michael999999

WikiHow wrote: »

I heard they had recently expanded alright, how did they think they could get extra money though?

Any other workers would see the new facilities being built, and breathe a sigh of relief that in the current recession the company they work for is doing well and there employment is safe.

But the unions see this , and think what's in it for us? How can we screw more money out of them for ourselves!

Sir Arthur Daley

michael999999 wrote: »

Any other workers would see the new facilities being built, and breathe a sigh of relief that in the current recession the company they work for is doing well and there employment is safe.

But the unions see this , and think what's in it for us? How can we screw more money out of them for ourselves!

Should liebherr not have given the payrise as agreed in 2009 or did the union not push liebherr to give the rise knowing of the expansion?

Axel Lamp

From Examiner today

SIPTU vote due next Tuesday

Sir Arthur Daley

Axel Lamp wrote: »

From Examiner today

SIPTU vote due next Tuesday

I imagine the vote will be majority one way.

Bactidiaryl

WikiHow wrote: »

I imagine the vote will be majority one way.

Is that in favour of keeping the factory open?

Sir Arthur Daley

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

Is that in favour of keeping the factory open?

I don't know what the vote is for but i feel it will be for the unions best interests anyway.

Sir Arthur Daley

Update on vote:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/manufacturing/siptu-workers-at-kerry-liebherr-plant-reject-labour-court-proposals-1.1655370

michael999999

WikiHow wrote: »

Update on vote:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/manufacturing/siptu-workers-at-kerry-liebherr-plant-reject-labour-court-proposals-1.1655370

Everyone can pack up there tools and go home.

I hope they have extra staff taken on in the social welfare office in Killarney.

Sir Arthur Daley

michael999999 wrote: »

Everyone can pack up there tools and go home.

I hope they have extra staff taken on in the social welfare office in Killarney.

Is it looking grim now?

handlemaster

When the workers are looking out their windows at home with no hope of a job they will wonder what it was all about #dolequeue