Pasta Quest: DMV. A Pastafarians Journey for Equality.

Cabaal

I've recently converted over to the FSM (may we honor his holy appendages), anyway I note a fellow follower in the USA has been respected for his beliefs and has got his licenses with his religious headdress.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/texas-pastafarian-license-photo_n_3816839.html

This got my thinking, have any pastafarians been allowed wear their headdress in Ireland?, I note the photo requirements state:

Head coverings, other than for religious reasons are not
allowed and hair bands are not acceptable.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Licensed%20Drivers/D401_Full_Licence_app_form.pdf

Surely we are being oppressed?

Obliq

Go for it. Oh PLEASE go for it, even if you don't need a new one

Sulla Felix

I'm really not sure why you'd post this here Cabaal. This is the atheist forum you realize? I don't know, maybe Spirituality needs a FSM sub-forum or something.

/removes tongue from cheek :pac:

Frito

The problem is he lacks authenticity. Anyone can pop a colander on their head.

But if he had spaghetti dreads?

Bannasidhe

Frito wrote: »

The problem is he lacks authenticity. Anyone can pop a colander on their head.

But if he had spaghetti dreads?

Technically anyone can pop a turban on their head too but that won't make them Sikh...I know this for a fact.

TheChizler

Frito wrote: »

But if he had spaghetti dreads?

You can post the application photos here for our approval Cabaal.

Cabaal

Obliq wrote: »

Go for it. Oh PLEASE go for it, even if you don't need a new one

As tempting as it is my license isn't up for renewal yet and I can't justify the 70e now.

However, I figure this is worth clarifying it with the RSA in the mean time.

FouxDaFaFa

I'm learning how to drive.

Opportunity.

robindch

Hmm... my license is due for renewal next year. I sense an opportunity to do something good too.

Days 298

Please someone do it.
Heres an Austrain one so if they dont let you then your rights are probable being oppressed.

And our constitution:
Freedom of conscience and the free profession and practice of religion are, subject to public order and morality, guaranteed to every citizen.

If your religion says you have to wear it, you have to wear it
Please do it

Edit: A czech one

ShooterSF

I looked into this before and couldn't find any rules or regulations on head gear for drivers license photos here...

tricky D

Cabaal wrote: »

(may we honor his holy noodly appendages)

fyp

That'll be 3 spaghetti bolgonese recipes and 1 lasagne recipe.

Cabaal

ShooterSF wrote: »

I looked into this before and couldn't find any rules or regulations on head gear for drivers license photos here...

There is, but I suppose it depends what they class as a religion,

Head coverings, other than for religious reasons are not
allowed and hair bands are not acceptable.

Of course the same sort of rules exist in most other countrys,

ShooterSF

Cabaal wrote: »

There is, but I suppose it depends what they class as a religion,



Of course the same sort of rules exist in most other countrys,

Thanks. I couldn't find any details like that when I went looking

MrPudding

ShooterSF wrote: »

Thanks. I couldn't find any details like that when I went looking

I am seriously considering this for my UK licence. Just checked and it will only cost £20.

I wonder how much checking they do...

I am only new to pastafarianism and would be concerned that my religious credentials would not be up to it.

MrP

Sulla Felix

MrPudding wrote: »

I am seriously considering this for my UK licence. Just checked and it will only cost £20.

I wonder how much checking they do...

I am only new to pastafarianism and would be concerned that my religious credentials would not be up to it.

MrP

They wouldn't dare ask a Christian if they really believed in God when they were trying to cry off working Sundays, right?

UDP

Application form filled out and photo with colander on head taken. Hopefully will get time tomorrow to drop it in to the tax office. I am only changing my address but from what I understand that means a new license.

Days 298

UDP wrote: »

Application form filled out and photo with colander on head taken. Hopefully will get time tomorrow to drop it in to the tax office. I am only changing my address but from what I understand that means a new license.

Make sure to let us know of your progress.

Just to let anyone know you can also become an organ donor to get a new licence.

Cabaal

UDP wrote: »

Application form filled out and photo with colander on head taken. Hopefully will get time tomorrow to drop it in to the tax office. I am only changing my address but from what I understand that means a new license.

I'm guessing there's a 99.9% chance the tax office will say no the second they see the photo, of course once they do this its worth asking for their rejection to be put in writing (I'm guessing they may be reluctant to put a religious objection in writing)

Once they have it in writing I'd say the next step would be contacting the RSA directly for further comment and clarification.

If the motor tax office refuse to put the rejection in writing then I'd look for it from the RSA.

Thats my plan anyway.

Might try renew license based on organ donations,

robindch

UDP wrote: »

Application form filled out and photo with colander on head taken. Hopefully will get time tomorrow to drop it in to the tax office. I am only changing my address but from what I understand that means a new license.

Are you prepared for two hours in Wheatfield if they refuse?

UDP

Maybe I need to do this next week when I am off so that I have time.

One thing I am thinking is they might ask why i am not wearing my pasta strainer while handing in the application. I was thinking of saying that my employer doesn't allow religious symbols (which the they don't) but then again the rule is clearly ambiguous i. e. I can wear it for whatever religious reasons I want. Any other Pastafarians know why I must wear it for the drivers license but not while calling into the office?

gizmo555

Maybe it's a tenet of Pastafarianism that colanders must always be worn when having one's photo taken?

Sofiztikated

UDP wrote: »

Maybe I need to do this next week when I am off so that I have time.

One thing I am thinking is they might ask why i am not wearing my pasta strainer while handing in the application. I was thinking of saying that my employer doesn't allow religious symbols (which the they don't) but then again the rule is clearly ambiguous i. e. I can wear it for whatever religious reasons I want. Any other Pastafarians know why I must wear it for the drivers license but not while calling into the office?

gizmo555 wrote: »

Maybe it's a tenet of Pastafarianism that colanders must always be worn when having one's photo taken?

Maybe it was a holey day? (Holey, geddit? Colander, holey.... fúck me, I'm hilarious)

Bannasidhe

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Maybe it was a holey day? (Holey, geddit? Colander, holey.... fúck me, I'm hilarious)

* passes Sofiztikated their coat*


:pac:

UDP

I think it might be safer to post this application form in instead. That way they need to respond one way or another whereas at the desk they will just point blankly refuse. Also they cannot use any argument about me wearing or not wearing my holey (there ya go Sofiztikated) colander.

Beruthiel

UDP wrote: »

Maybe I need to do this next week when I am off so that I have time.

For extra authenticity, don't forget to have a copy of The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (praise be his name) under your arm.

Peregrinus

Surprisingly, you shouldn't need it.

I know what it says on the application form, but in the actual law, enacted under the actual authority of yer' genuine Oireachtas, the only relevant requirement in regard to the photograph is that it should " in the opinion of the licensing authority . . . provide an adequate facial likeness of the applicant for identification purposes". (Road Traffic (Licensing of Drivers) Regulations 2006, reg. 53(1)(b).

It seems to me that you can wear any headgear at all, for any reason or for no reason, as long as it can't reasonably be said to impede facial identification, and the authority has no right to reject the photograph.

So, no need for the Gospel of the FSM under your arm. Just wander in with your well-thumbed copy of the Road Traffic (Licensing of Drivers) Regulations 2006 and point them to reg. 56.

Gordon

UDP wrote: »

One thing I am thinking is they might ask why i am not wearing my pasta strainer while handing in the application.

Because it's my religion, you shouldn't take it out of context, why are you oppressing my faith?

UDP

Sent via registered post.

Included a letter too explaining how it might look strange to a non-pastafarian that I have a colander on my head but that I take my religion seriously and that it is not a joke. I also said that I have no doubt I will be treated like any other religious person who submits a photo of themselves wearing a religious head covering.

robindch

UDP wrote: »

Included a letter too explaining how it might look strange to a non-pastafarian that I have a colander on my head but that I take my religion seriously and that it is not a joke. I also said that I have no doubt I will be treated like any other religious person who submits a photo of themselves wearing a religious head covering.

Waiting with bated breath...!

FouxDaFaFa

UDP wrote: »

Sent via registered post.

Included a letter too explaining how it might look strange to a non-pastafarian that I have a colander on my head but that I take my religion seriously and that it is not a joke. I also said that I have no doubt I will be treated like any other religious person who submits a photo of themselves wearing a religious head covering.

I...think I love you.

You've probably made/ruined someone's day at the office.

Days 298

UDP wrote: »

Sent via registered post.

Included a letter too explaining how it might look strange to a non-pastafarian that I have a colander on my head but that I take my religion seriously and that it is not a joke. I also said that I have no doubt I will be treated like any other religious person who submits a photo of themselves wearing a religious head covering.

Legend
There should be a subsection on A+A for pastafarian rights

[-0-]

Show us the pic. G'wan.

massdebater

*follows thread*

Beruthiel

[-0-] wrote: »

Show us the pic. G'wan.

Go on.
You can blacken out your eyes so nobody knows you.

Klair88

ok so i seen this on the front page of boards. I just passed my Theory test last night, and i am a staunch atheist.

I have yet to get the eye test report and send it all off to get my learner license so do i still have an opportunity to wear my "Pastafarian Religious Headwear" too?

UDP

I will post a copy of my drivers license when it is issued.

My registered post has been marked as delivered.

bumper234

Clicks follow thread:D

frag420

My friend did it before but the lady in the tax office gave her a very hard time over it. Now anytime she sees that lady in town she just drives pasta....


I have no coat so I shall just leave......

Days 298

Klair88 wrote: »

ok so i seen this on the front page of boards. I just passed my Theory test last night, and i am a staunch atheist.

I have yet to get the eye test report and send it all off to get my learner license so do i still have an opportunity to wear my "Pastafarian Religious Headwear" too?

Yes. Two passport photos signed on the back by yourself and youre sorted.

Beruthiel

frag420 wrote: »

I have no coat so I shall just leave......

And don't come back.

gaynorvader

Beruthiel wrote: »

And don't come back.

Aw. But I have his coat!

frag420

gaynorvader wrote: »

Aw. But I have his coat!

Can you please return it as I'm feeling cannelloni without it!!

Cabaal

might be abit early i guess but any update yet?

UDP

Nope, nothing yet.

Hotblack Desiato

I've been waiting on a simple registration change of address since mid July, so don't get your hopes up.
Shannon is overwhelmed with tax-dodging west of Ireland car owners trying to legitimise themselves in advance of SORN.

Bannasidhe

ninja900 wrote: »

I've been waiting on a simple registration change of address since mid July, so don't get your hopes up.
Shannon is overwhelmed with tax-dodging west of Ireland car owners trying to legitimise themselves in advance of SORN.

Not as overwhelmed as Tralee judging by the report I heard on the radio yesterday. Apparently there are an awful lot of cars 'off the road' sitting in fields in Kerry. :eek:

OU812

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gaynorvader

OU812 wrote: »

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OU812

(was on a mobile)

Cabaal

Any update or backlog still delaying things?