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Why the impatience?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Mo60


    Anan1 wrote: »
    ... and onto the ignore list you finally go.

    Having encountered your comments on this and previous threads, I think we should all take your advice in regard to your own posts.

    With regard to the OP's original post, I cannot see that they were in the wrong in any way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Some motorists see the speed limit as a number they have to attain.

    Others like myself will see the speed limit as a number to stay under.

    This!

    Some drivers seem to forget that the speed limit is exactly that.....a limit...... not a suggestion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    It's total lack off experience, I've driven 260,000 miles in just the last 4yrs, eventually the ignorance and road rage 'exits' your system, and you become a calmer happier driver, with prestine road etiquette:) which can be annoying and upsetting to inexperienced drivers, and so the cycle continues..............:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Ok, so there are two schools of thought out there - one who will drive safely at the speed limit (let's not bring motorways into this - a different matter and outside my own experience this morning) and those who see motorists who drive at the speed limit and obeying pedestrian crossings as "holding them up".
    Much as you may wish it to be otherwise, this is nonsense. The fact is that I asked an entirely reasonable question, and you responded with semi-incoherent aggression. Several other posters followed your lead and posted personally abusive responses, mostly referencing points they imagined me to have made. As I've already said, I wasn't in the car with you and can't therefore comment on your driving style. You do, however, strike me as a highly defensive and quite aggressive poster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    You still haven't answered my question. I still stand by my comment that "holding up" motorists is a moronic suggestion when I'm driving at the speed limit on a suburban street. I don't see the issue with this and don't find it semi-incoherently aggressive (sic).

    You seem to be fascinated with my own driving style rather than giving and insight into your own. So here goes - driving from 1987, test first time, zero penalty points, sub€300 insurance premium and not as much of a parking ticket in the 25 years I've being driving. What about yourself? It's you that comes across aggressive and I can only assume you're trolling this forum rather than giving sane / legal alternatives when facing the situations I outlined I my op.

    So, impart us with your road craft. What do you do in a situation when your faced with a driver travelling at the speed limit? From your own posts, I would suggest it is you who would act aggressively, either in driving style, other gestures (hand waving / light flashing / horn beeping) which is the behavoiur of drivers who have no patience and are not capable of driving within the law of the land


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Time for my 2 cents

    Generally, if someone is behind me and they clearly want to get by, I'll do what I can to let them by when the road permits me. In the Phoenix park plenty of room so no excuses. Almost everyone that goes by appreciates my good manners and courtesy.

    If people want to go by leave them to it. Reasons may be genuine, willy waving whatever. I know when Something unexpected crops up and I have to put the foot down (rescuing a break down, tools etc) I really appreciate when people help me on my way :)

    There is absolutely no point trying to force the speed limit on some people, they'll just get even more wound up

    Take whatever you want from my little dissertation but don't have a go at what I see as normal practice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    For some motorists if the road is not clear in front of them and you are abiding by the speed limit and they are behind you, you are holding them up.

    I don't get their logic.

    These people should be the ones getting speeding tickets.

    I travel a fairly long distance to and from work every day. What I see some days defies belief, mostly crazy, dangerous overtaking, people who are literally so close to my bumper they might as well be in the car with me .

    I stay just under the speed limit because (there are three places on my way to work with speed vans, usually)

    (a) It's the law

    (b) The fine is more than I can afford to pay

    Apart from a and b above, some motorists are just dangerous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I don't see anything there that prohibits what rwg was doing?

    Your trolling right? Its pretty black and white there in the statue and in the ROTR. You cannot reverse onto a main road irregardless of how well you can see or if you live there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Anan1 wrote: »
    ... and onto the ignore list you finally go.

    Wonderful, you can now spout nonsense in splendid isolation.
    You don't believe anything you say, you're a sh*t stirrer for the sake of it and a dog will only yelp when the boot was on target.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    dgt wrote: »
    Time for my 2 cents

    Generally, if someone is behind me and they clearly want to get by, I'll do what I can to let them by when the road permits me. In the Phoenix park plenty of room so no excuses. Almost everyone that goes by appreciates my good manners and courtesy.

    If people want to go by leave them to it. Reasons may be genuine, willy waving whatever. I know when Something unexpected crops up and I have to put the foot down (rescuing a break down, tools etc) I really appreciate when people help me on my way :)

    There is absolutely no point trying to force the speed limit on some people, they'll just get even more wound up

    Take whatever you want from my little dissertation but don't have a go at what I see as normal practice

    I wouldn't have a go at you at all. I agree with letting them go by you. Anything for a quiet life.

    I used to work in Dublin and drove through the Phoenix Park daily. That was bliss.

    Now I live down the country and the driving by a minority is woeful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Anan1 wrote: »
    ... and onto the ignore list you finally go.

    He must have hit a raw nerve.

    Do you ever wonder if there will be a point time where you realise that maybe, just maybe that with all many people who disagree with your views, that problem might not be their views, but yours?

    I've yet to see you add anything positive to any discussion here, all you seem to do is enjoy upsetting people with unpopular viewpoints just for the sake of argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭rwg


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Your trolling right? Its pretty black and white there in the statue and in the ROTR. You cannot reverse onto a main road irregardless of how well you can see or if you live there.

    "irregardless" ?

    "A driver shall not reverse on to a major road from another road, or whenever his vision is such that to reverse would be likely to endanger other traffic or pedestrians."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Much as you may wish it to be otherwise, this is nonsense. The fact is that I asked an entirely reasonable question, and you responded with semi-incoherent aggression. Several other posters followed your lead and posted personally abusive responses, mostly referencing points they imagined me to have made. As I've already said, I wasn't in the car with you and can't therefore comment on your driving style. You do, however, strike me as a highly defensive and quite aggressive poster.

    Your question was not reasonable considering the OP stated he was travelling at the speed limit. You seem to be a very unreasonable poster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Just read back what I posted. It could be misunderstood.

    So for clarity.....

    I never mind someone overtaking me, but please do it safely and with due care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    Mods feel free to moderate my next post. Not sure if it belongs in this thread.I don't want to hi-jack this thread. Apologies in advance.

    Should a driving licence be for life?

    I'm driving for more than 20 years myself and I am female.

    I wouldn't mind having to do the driving test again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I'd just like to add, Happy Christmas everyone, especially those who presumably didn't get what they wanted form Santa.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Aineoil wrote: »
    For some motorists if the road is not clear in front of them and you are abiding by the speed limit and they are behind you, you are holding them up.

    I don't get their logic.

    These people should be the ones getting speeding tickets.

    I travel a fairly long distance to and from work every day. What I see some days defies belief, mostly crazy, dangerous overtaking, people who are literally so close to my bumper they might as well be in the car with me .

    I stay just under the speed limit because (there are three places on my way to work with speed vans, usually)

    (a) It's the law

    (b) The fine is more than I can afford to pay

    Apart from a and b above, some motorists are just dangerous

    If people are riding up your arse every day and pull crazy stunts to get past you, I would suggest that your driving has something to do with it.
    Because it never happens to me. And I drive fairly relaxed. So you must be about 20 km/h below the speed limit. I find other road users fairly good once you don't piss them off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    If people are riding up your arse every day and pull crazy stunts to get past you, I would suggest that your driving has something to do with it.
    Because it never happens to me. And I drive fairly relaxed. So you must be about 20 km/h below the speed limit. I find other road users fairly good once you don't piss them off.

    Was that not what everyone slated anan1 for?
    That maybe the ops driving may have lead to the impatience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Scortho wrote: »
    Was that not what everyone slated anan1 for?
    That maybe the ops driving may have lead to the impatience.

    No. The OP stated he was travelling at the speed limit. The poster you quoted was responding to a different poster who stated she travels under the speed limit. Big difference!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Scortho wrote: »
    Was that not what everyone slated anan1 for?
    That maybe the ops driving may have lead to the impatience.

    The OP stated he was driving at the speedlimit, the other poster states he goes everywhere below the speed limit. Also, the statement the every day people pull crazy stunts around him is a bit of a tell.
    The OP stated that he was letting someone cross the road, I know that there's massive hatred for that, but I don't think its an unreasonable thing to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Mods feel free to moderate my next post. Not sure if it belongs in this thread.I don't want to hi-jack this thread. Apologies in advance.

    Should a driving licence be for life?

    I'm driving for more than 20 years myself and I am female.

    I wouldn't mind having to do the driving test again.

    You must have more money than sense. The test demands a totally unnatural and stilted driving style with mirror checking overkill. Nobody drives like that in real life, nor should they. Passing a driving test is only an indication of competence to a very basic level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Threads like this are a stark reminder of why Motors has been on a steep decline. Provocative bullcrap, always the need for contrarian views for little other than to rock the boat. Then of course the mob mentality sets in, buddy's side with buddy's and it's this side vs that side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Well I suppose it's a reflexion on the world at large out there - we're all different, with different maturity and tolerance levels. Some obviously see safe and law abiding drivers as some sort of nuisance on the road.

    We all see ourselves as good drivers and few will admit our mistakes. people just need to chill out on the road, don't let the red mist descend and enjoy driving. There's very rarely a situation, as I saw twice this morning, that warrants putting your own life and those of other road users at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,818 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    .. cos the roads are full of gulpins.

    Or the other extreme appearing more and more, those ultra nice people who stop suddenly on a main road to let someone out. Just as dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭maringo


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I suppose the first thing you need to ask yourself is whether you're needlessly delaying other road users?

    I must admit to "needlessly delaying" other road users by adhering to the maximum speed limit. Some rather impatient and downright reckless drivers out there who often end up just in front of me at a red traffic light. Seems to have got worse than usual this Christmas :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Mo60


    maringo wrote: »
    I must admit to "needlessly delaying" other road users by adhering to the maximum speed limit. Some rather impatient and downright reckless drivers out there who often end up just in front of me at a red traffic light. Seems to have got worse than usual this Christmas :rolleyes:


    I can never understand, when I'm doing the maximum speed, someone sits so close behind and then overtakes only to keep driving just in front of me afterwards. I can only assume that there are some drivers that just do not like anyone else in front of them.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    If people are riding up your arse every day and pull crazy stunts to get past you, I would suggest that your driving has something to do with it.
    Because it never happens to me. And I drive fairly relaxed. So you must be about 20 km/h below the speed limit. I find other road users fairly good once you don't piss them off.

    On a main road I use daily without fail I'll see those traveling 10-20km/h above the 50km/h limit speeding up behind cars and usually tailgating those doing the limit or a little above it.

    In any case, those traveling 10-20km/h above speed up for a bit but usually quickly end up behind those around the limit. Their speeding is added danger but usually pointless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Days 298


    Aineoil wrote: »
    Mods feel free to moderate my next post. Not sure if it belongs in this thread.I don't want to hi-jack this thread. Apologies in advance.

    Should a driving licence be for life?

    I'm driving for more than 20 years myself and I am female.

    I wouldn't mind having to do the driving test again.
    €30. Get a good instructor and do a pre test.

    If you fail, stop driving unaccompanied, put up L plates until you pass. Simple. And if you can't pass stop driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    This thread is about (other) impatient drivers, let's stick to that please.

    On topic, overtaking on a pedestrian crossing is really really stupid.
    Unfortunately some people that are nice normal people sometimes suddenly turn nasty when in a car. It's like a Jekyll/Hyde thing. I'm sure there is some psychological explanation for it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    So I'm out this morning in Dublin, drive to the Phoenix park with the family and in laws. On the way, my father in law is sitting up front and we are commenting about how impatient people are - Stephens morning, doing the speed limit on suburban roads and some a$$ is driving 6 inches behind you. A fella at a set of lights 'swan necks' around a car in front, almost causing an accident in the process.

    But to top it off - when I do get to the park I stop at a raised pedestrian crossing to let a woman cross with a pram. Unbelievably, some stupid woman behind me overtakes me from the rear, barges across the pedestrian crossing, almost taking the woman and pram out of it. I follow her in to the park - she's got what looks like her own partner and kids and they decamp beside us. I was going to tell her what an ar$ehole she was, but my own wife convinced me not to.

    So what is it - impatience or just pure lack of manners? What can be that urgent that you would risk other peoples lives in such a reckless way?


    If you are noticing many people driving up too close to you and overtaking you often, would you not consider that maybe it is your driving style that is contributing to other drivers' behavior?

    People stick rigidly to the 50kmh on the speedo however depending on your car, your speedometer may be over estimating your speed by as much as 10%. Meaning, you are driving well below the speed limit and pissing off other people.

    You need to evaluate what your driving style is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    salonfire wrote: »
    If you are noticing many people driving up too close to you and overtaking you often, would you not consider that maybe it is your driving style that is contributing to other drivers' behavior?

    People stick rigidly to the 50kmh on the speedo however depending on your car, your speedometer may be over estimating your speed by as much as 10%. Meaning, you are driving well below the speed limit and pissing off other people.

    You need to evaluate what your driving style is.

    5km/h is well below now is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    So again I ask - how should I approach this situation, to which none of the drivers who insist driving up someone's ar$e can answer.

    Just in case you missed what I said - I'm driving at 50 km/hr (the speed limit) and someone's driving 6" from my bumper. The issue is with the driver behind, not me.

    The only place I was overtaken was by some sp@stic who cannot wait for a woman and her child to cross at a designated pedestrian crossing. She came from behind me to cross over the ped crossing on the wrong side of the road. One of the most moronic manoeuvres I've seen in a while.

    You sound like you need to change you driving style and like anan1 can only assume you're trolling


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GreeBo wrote: »
    5km/h is well below now is it?


    OK then, below.

    And for somebody who wants to drive slightly above the speed limit, they will appear impatient to drivers like the OP and will overtake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    salonfire wrote: »
    OK then, below.

    And for somebody who wants to drive slightly above the speed limit, they will appear impatient to drivers like the OP and will overtake.

    OK, progress.
    Now, so what if you are slightly below the upper limit?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    So again I ask - how should I approach this situation, to which none of the drivers who insist driving up someone's ar$e can answer.

    Just in case you missed what I said - I'm driving at 50 km/hr (the speed limit) and someone's driving 6" from my bumper. The issue is with the driver behind, not me.

    The only place I was overtaken was by some sp@stic who cannot wait for a woman and her child to cross at a designated pedestrian crossing. She came from behind me to cross over the ped crossing on the wrong side of the road. One of the most moronic manoeuvres I've seen in a while.

    You sound like you need to change you driving style and like anan1 can only assume you're trolling


    If it the occasional driver that is driving up your bumper, then put it down to arsehole behavior. I think that happens to everyone. Probably best to pull in when safe to do so and let them overtake you and forget about it.

    However, if this is happening to you regularly, then it is your driving style.

    What you describe is moronic - I agree. Nobody is suggesting that driver is in the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    salonfire wrote: »
    People stick rigidly to the 50kmh on the speedo however depending on your car, your speedometer may be over estimating your speed by as much as 10%. Meaning, you are driving well below the speed limit and pissing off other people.

    Most peoples speedos will read similarly accurate and most people on the road will not a clue about this.

    The difference between the speedo reading and the "real" reading in most cases is so negligible its barely worth mentioning; especially at urban speeds. If youre getting pissed off about people not driving at the "real" speed limit then you really learn to calm down when driving!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    Driving standards around Dublin are very poor.
    Intimidation, aggression and bullying are too common.
    A....holes up your exhaust are easy to handle. You simply decide not to allow them to make you drive at their level. Remember that you are the one ultimately responsible for your driving so keep control !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    Driving standards around Dublin are very poor.
    Intimidation, aggression and bullying are too common.
    A....holes up your exhaust are easy to handle. You simply decide not to allow them to make you drive at their level. Remember that you are the one ultimately responsible for your driving so keep control !

    Completely agree. It's an insight into the mindset of some of the clowns around the roads who see the issue with the driver obeying speed limits and traffic signals in front of them. If you can't hack this, these drivers should look at their own behaviour - not come on here and firstly condone the moronic behaviour but also imply the issue is with the law abiding driver in front of them. Chill and if speed is an issue and you're incapable of driving at the limit, perhaps consider leaving a few more minutes to your destination.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    rwg wrote: »
    Hardly moronic, I live on a main road and have to reverse out of the driveway to enter the road, I partially reverse out first, and then I can see clearly when its safe to enter the road, probably about once every 2/3 weeks a driver is driving up the main road and sees my car protruding from the driveway and stops in the middle of the main road to let me out - and this is with cars behind them - to top it off I've even had them flash lights at me for not thanking them for letting me out - unbelievable!!

    So just to get this straight. Someone stops to let you out, you avail of their gesture yet don't thank them and in fact pour scorn on them?

    Its guys like you that are the real danger on the roads IMO, not those whom you sanctimoniously scoff at.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    salonfire wrote: »
    However, if this is happening to you regularly, then it is your driving style.

    There's a lot out there to prove that there's regularly poor driving on our roads -- thus just because somebody encounters some of that regular poor driving (ie tailgating) regularly does not mean they are at fault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    salonfire wrote: »
    If you are noticing many people driving up too close to you and overtaking you often, would you not consider that maybe it is your driving style that is contributing to other drivers' behavior?

    People stick rigidly to the 50kmh on the speedo however depending on your car, your speedometer may be over estimating your speed by as much as 10%. Meaning, you are driving well below the speed limit and pissing off other people.

    You need to evaluate what your driving style is.

    Swings and roundabouts I know but this also goes the other way and your speedometer maye be underestimating yo7r speed by as much as 10% meaning you are driving "well" OVER the limit putting other drivers and pedestrians lives at risk.

    I see no one has answered the op yet as to what they would do when driving at the speed limit when a car is up their ar$e or when some muppet overtakes you on a pedestrian crossing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Swings and roundabouts I know but this also goes the other way and your speedometer maye be underestimating yo7r speed by as much as 10% meaning you are driving "well" OVER the limit putting other drivers and pedestrians lives at risk.
    easy enough to check how reliable your speedo is with a free GPS app on any smartphone with GPS capabilities (or a dedicated car GPS).

    i've tested mine with several and at 120km/h by the car speedo I'm actually only doing about 105km/h so (at least when I am purposely making a point of driving within the speed limits) i always go a little over to compensate to avoid getting in anyone's way.

    i also always make a point of only using overtaking lanes when i am overtaking something and keeping regular eyes on my rear view mirrors to make sure that i'm neither in anyone's way if i don't have to be or that i will end up in someone's way who is travelling faster than I am (i.e. not pulling out in front of people already overtaking on motorways, which i really hate).

    it's common courtesy and avoids a lot of problems, although not all. and having said that, if you go out of your way to drive aggressively with me for no reason (i.e. when someone else is holding everyone up and there is nothing i can do about it), i will make a point of driving defensively (but safely) to slow you down further just on principle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    vibe666 wrote: »
    and having said that, if you go out of your way to drive aggressively with me for no reason (i.e. when someone else is holding everyone up and there is nothing i can do about it), i will make a point of driving defensively (but safely) to slow you down further just on principle.
    How would you do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Anan1 wrote: »
    How would you do that?
    simply by driving within the speed limits and not making a point of getting out of your way as soon as possible like i normally would if you had been courteous and non-aggressive in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    vibe666 wrote: »
    simply by driving within the speed limits and not making a point of getting out of your way as soon as possible like i normally would if you had been courteous and non-aggressive in the first place.
    So you admit to needlessly delaying other road users on occasion yourself, and yet you accuse me of trolling threads/being unable to read English for having asked whether the OP might have been doing the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    vibe666 wrote: »
    i've tested mine with several and at 120km/h by the car speedo I'm actually only doing about 105km/h so (at least when I am purposely making a point of driving within the speed limits) i always go a little over to compensate to avoid getting in anyone's way.

    Have you dramatically changed tire size on your car or something? Speedos may read high (never low), but to be 15km/h out suggests that there is a bigger issue than just the general calibration inaccuracy.

    People on here generally tend to make a bigger deal of the speedo inaccuracy than it is from my experience. I dont think I have seen a car that reads more than maybe 5-6km/h high at 120km/h. If my speedo was reading 10% off Id be bringing it to a garage to get checked out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    djimi wrote: »
    Have you dramatically changed tire size on your car or something? Speedos may read high (never low), but to be 15km/h out suggests that there is a bigger issue than just the general calibration inaccuracy.

    People on here generally tend to make a bigger deal of the speedo inaccuracy than it is from my experience. I dont think I have seen a car that reads more than maybe 5-6km/h high at 120km/h. If my speedo was reading 10% off Id be bringing it to a garage to get checked out.
    Some speedos are better than others, but 10% isn't unusual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    djimi wrote: »
    Okay Ill bite. If Im travelling at the speed limit then what other factors about my driving could possibly be needlessly delaying other road users?

    Fine, if it's a never ending open road with nothing on it. The reality Is, many drivers see everything as an obstruction. Come to a little roundabout for example, and its stop if there is a car within 500 metres visible on the horizon and wait. Simply saying you drive at the limit is no proof you are making good progress, as no one can simply drive at the limit the entire journey.

    The op seemed to say the pedestrian crossing was in the phoenix park in post 1. When questioned, the reply in post 5 said pedestrians were crossing in their estate. Were goal posts moved, or are suburban roads the ones in estates now?

    I bet if the same posters who go on and on and on about people driving in the centre lane of m50, were stuck behind some driver who hesitates at every little event, but does the limit in areas where the road is clear, they would have less patients than on the m50, where suddenly they find themselves in a rush because drivers are doing something wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Again, to reiterate as some people seem to be struggling what I'm trying to describe. The location of the pedestrian crossing is immaterial. So again:

    Driving 50kmhr in my estate with an a$$ 6" behind

    Pedestrian crossing is in the Phoenix park - it's the one leading to Ashtown castle at the Aras

    I'm one of the few drivers who seem to know how to use motorways in my own experience, so the middle lane issue is of no significance to me. The majority of drivers out there have no clue about basic road manners or to use a motorway, but that is a different argument.

    98 posts in an no one from the 'holding drivers up' camp has been able to describe how these situations should be handled - some have suggested getting out if the impatient drivers way. my own way is to ignore someone tailgating behind me when I'm driving at the speed limit. The issue is with them, not me. If they're late for something, they need to leave earlier.

    The thread title is why the impatience - given that my experience was at 11.00 on A st Stephens morning, I'm still trying to work this out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    djimi wrote: »
    Have you dramatically changed tire size on your car or something? Speedos may read high (never low), but to be 15km/h out suggests that there is a bigger issue than just the general calibration inaccuracy.

    People on here generally tend to make a bigger deal of the speedo inaccuracy than it is from my experience. I dont think I have seen a car that reads more than maybe 5-6km/h high at 120km/h. If my speedo was reading 10% off Id be bringing it to a garage to get checked out.

    Its not really a fixed percentage. If a car speedo is produced, and reads perfectly accurate, they simply have to be fitted with the dial readings rotated slightly anti-clockwise of the true position, for a fixed over read over the whole scale. This can be seen in many cars, with the 10kph closer to the 0kph than the rest of the spacings on the dial.

    Any variations in accuracy over the range is simply because the speedo is not perfectly linear, I.e. not flawless.


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