PW Draft 2014 - Discussion Thread

JP Liz V1

Mr.Nice Guy: CM Punk, Hulk Hogan, The Road Warriors aka Hawk and Animal, Nick Bockwinkel & Ray Stevens, AJ Lee & Kaitlyn, Big Van Vader, Jerry The King Lawler, Zeb Colter aka Dutch Mantell & Dr. D David Schultz

Raf32: Raven, Sting, RVD, JBL, Ron Simmons, The Miz, Test & Albert, Drew McIntyre, Laycool aka Layla and Michelle McCool

Bounty Hunter: Bret Hart, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Shinsuke Nakamura, Ted Dibiase Snr & Steve Williams, Terry Funk, The Fabulous Freebirds aka Michael "P.S." Hayes & Terry Gordy, Demolition aka Ax & Smash, Team Co-Bro aka Santino Marella & Zack Ryder, Bob Backlund

brianregan09: Samoa Joe, Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns, Tazz, Rhyno, Big Bossman & One Man Gang, Ryback, La Parka & Psicosis, Strikeforce aka Tito Santana & Rick Martel

Moneymaker: Daniel Bryan, Randy Savage, Goldust & Cody Rhodes, Brian Pillman, William Regal, MsChif & Cheerleader Melissa, Lance Storm, Sara Del Rey, Mike Awesome

beakerjoe: Soloman Crowe & Dean Ambrose, Goldberg, Okada, Ravishing Rick Rude, Ethan Carter & Fandango,Bam Bam Bigelow & Chris Kanyon, James Storm, Shane McMahon

Teamshadowclan: Eddie Guerrero, HHH, Vince McMahon, Rey Mysterio, Lex Luger, Kevin Nash, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Stephanie McMahon, Chyna

ShagNasti: Ric Flair, John Cena, Ultimate Warrior, Jesse The Body Ventura & Adorable Adrian Adonis, Scott Steiner, Enzo Amore, Jerry Springer, Devon Dudley & The Pope D'Angelo Dinero

Jester252: Mick Foley, Chris Jericho, Diamond Dallas Page, New Age Outlaws aka Billy Gunn and Road Dogg,MNM aka Joey Mercury & Johnny Nitro, Ken Shamrock, Finlay, Scotty 2 Hotty & Grandmaster Sexay

connemara man: Jeff Hardy' Bubba Ray Dudley, Mark Henry, Rikishi, Big E Langston, Brooke Tessmacher, The Godfather & D'Lo Brown, Jesse & Festus, Team Elite aka Derrick Neikirk & Mike Knox

Campo: Austin Aries, The Rock, Alberto Del Rio, Andre the Giant, Chavo Guerrero & Hernandez, Bray Wyatt & Bo Dallas, Mike Rotunda, Barry Windham

waltersobchak: Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi, Brock Lesnar, Ricky Steamboat, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Jake The Snake Roberts, Kerry Von Erich, The Iron Sheik, Paul Heyman

Prop Joe: Christian, Randy Orton, Batista, Jeff Jarrett, The Big Show, David Otunga & Joe Hennig, Buff Bagwell, The Young Bucks,V-Squared aka Val Venis & Viscera

lebowskilite: Christopher Daniels & Matt Sydal aka Evan Bourne, Edge, Mr Perfect & Scott Hall, Billy Graham, Bobby Roode, Awesome Kong & Aja Kong, The Dynamic Dudes aka Johnny Ace & Shane Douglas, Frankie Kazarian.

Furious-Red: AJ Styles, HBK, Kane, Mr. Anderson, The World's Greatest Tag Team aka Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas, Jimmy Uso & Jey Uso, Billy Kidman & Paul London, Chris Sabin

thebostoncrab: Nigel McGuinness, Chris Benoit, The Dynamite Kid, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Stan Hansen & Bruiser Brody, Jushin "Thunder" Liger, The Extreme Horseman aka Steve Corino & CW Anderson, KENTA & Marufuji Naomichi, Quinton Rampage Jackson

Hashtag_HEEL: Chris Hero & Antonio Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, Wade Barrett, Sheamus, MVP & Matt Hardy, Heath Slater, Rockstar Spud, Prime Time Players aka Titus O'Neill & Darren Young

JP Liz V1: The American Wolves aka Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards, Kurt Angle, Damien Sandow, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, Trish Stratus & Lita, International Airstrike aka Tyson Kidd & Justin Gabriel, William Shatner, The Nasty Boys aka Brian Knobs & Jerry Sags

A Brad Maddox Guy: Keji Mutoh, The Undertaker, Owen Hart & The British Bulldog, Dusty Rhodes, Booker T, Yokozuna, X-Pac & Hardcore Bob Holly, 3 Minute Warning aka Jamal & Rosey, Shane Hurricane Helms

mrkiscool2: Sami Zayn, Kevin Steen, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Fergal Devitt & Minoru, Bruno Sammartino, Sid Vicious, Ultimo Dragon, Jay & Mark Briscoe, The Great Sasuke

Mr.Nice Guy

Not having much luck with these draws:

Rd 1 - 1
Rd 2 - 20
Rd 3 - 7
Rd 4 - 14
Rd 5 - 20
Rd 6 - 19
Rd 7 - 12
Rd 8 - 14
Rd 9 - 19

Average draw: 14

Been last twice and been second-last twice.

Not had a top ten draw since round three.

Not gonna lie, it's disheartening.

connemara man

I genuinely feel for you MNG that is rough! You're handling it better than I would

waltersobchak

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Not having much luck with these draws:

Rd 1 - 1
Rd 2 - 20
Rd 3 - 7
Rd 4 - 14
Rd 5 - 20
Rd 6 - 19
Rd 7 - 12
Rd 8 - 14
Rd 9 - 19

Average draw: 14

Been last twice and been second-last twice.

Not had a top ten draw since round three.

Not gonna lie, it's disheartening.

It happens to someone every year doesn't it.. Pretty sure D2D was in the bottom 10 every round one year

campo

waltersobchak wrote: »

It happens to someone every year doesn't it.. Pretty sure D2D was in the bottom 10 every round one year

I'd say mine is just as bad

Moneymaker

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Not having much luck with these draws:

Rd 1 - 1
Rd 2 - 20
Rd 3 - 7
Rd 4 - 14
Rd 5 - 20
Rd 6 - 19
Rd 7 - 12
Rd 8 - 14
Rd 9 - 19

Average draw: 14

Been last twice and been second-last twice.

Not had a top ten draw since round three.

Not gonna lie, it's disheartening.

You have one of the best rosters and one of the ultimate dream feuds on Hogan/CM Punk. It ain't all bad.

Mr.Nice Guy

Sorry folks for my pity parade. Just every time I see a new draw I'm convinced this will be a better one for me.

walt's right about D2D, though. He had it worse than me that one year. Far worse.

I'll take it on the chin and try to think up some nice strategies.

campo

My draws

Rd.1 11
Rd 2 10
Rd 3 14
Rd 4 12
Rd 5 10
Rd 6 16
Rd 7 9
Rd 8 16
Rd 9 13

Avg draw 13

Lord TSC

Anyone done up the "average" draw stats? Usually everyone ends up between 7-13.

Plus it will benefit people in rounds 13-15 to be lower...

beakerjoe

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Anyone done up the "average" draw stats? Usually everyone ends up between 7-13.

Plus it will benefit people in rounds 13-15 to be lower...

ill do it now, ive alot of time on my hands in work

beakerjoe

Averages for 9 rounds is as follows :

1. Teamshadowclan : 7.5
2. Furious Red : 7.77
3. Lewbowskilite : 8.22
4. Moneymaker : 8.55
5. Brad Maddox Guy : 8.77
6. TheBostonCrab : 9.11
7. Brain Regan : 9.22
8. Walrersobchek : 9.88
9. Mrkiscool : 10.11
10. Prop Joe : 10.22
11. bounty Hunter : 10.55
12. Hashtag Heel : 10.77
13. JP Liz : 11.11
14. Connemara Man : 11:33
15. Raf32 : 12.00
16. Shagnasti : 12.22
17. Jester : 12.66
18. Campo : 12.33
19. Beakerjoe : 13.55
20. Mr Nice Guy 14.00

Brad Maddox Guy has come 2nd a total of 3 times. No one else has drawn the same number more than twice, except Shagnasti who has had 16 three times also.

Lord TSC

Ahem...

Well that doesn't look good



On the upside, I did say everyone should be between 7 and 13, and everyone bar Beaker and MNG are actually there now.

beakerjoe

I hope mrkiscool comes online, or I fear he will be the first to fall to the dreaded 24 hour rule.

lebowskilite

*SOME MORE STATS*

I did some of these last year after round 15. I'm going to do it now because I'm free (as an exhausted bird) this morning.

Who has had the most interesting draft?
By this I mean, who rides the high and low tides when it comes to draft numbers? Who's heart has taken the biggest beating, and might occasionally just like to be 10th?

Well, maybe it's because there's only been 9 rounds but we're less deviant from our average picks than last year. The person with the most variety is TeamShadowClan, with an average deviation of 5.9 from his average pick of 7.6. That means TSC could expect to be around 2nd or 13th in any given round. 5 times he was either 2nd, 13th, or within one place of those. In other words, he's all over the place, which might explain why he's taken to cheating.

JK, if anything it proves that he's not really got a massive advantage from having the best possible average.

Special Mention
Three players have gone from 1st to 20th or vice verse in successive rounds. MNG and Mrkiscool did it in Rounds 1 and 2 courtesy of the order reversal, with MNG having picked first and Mrkiscool getting two picks in a row.

BrianRegan, however, took Lady Luck for a one-night affair and never called her, coming 1st in round 7 only to be relegated to 20th in round 8.

Who could snooze through it all?
Campo, that's who. With a standard deviation of just 2.1, Campo could only really expect to find himself in the lower mid-table, between 10th and 14th. He has, however, twice gone so far as to get 16th, and once got to the dazzling heights of 9. His average pick is 12.3, which is, however, not average, but considerably worse. He lingers in 17th on the "average picks" league table, as BrianRegan has already shown us.

Extremities
Only one person has been placed last twice: MNG. No one has placed first twice.

TeamShadowClan has been in the top 3 four times - more than anyone else, although several people come close with three rounds in the top 3. Mrkiscool is one of these, and yet their average pick is only a very average 10.1. Waltersobchak has a marginally higher average (9.9) and yet has never been in the top 3.

Connemara Man, Campo and Jester252 join Walter in having never been in the top 3.

Walter and Campo have also never been in the bottom 3. Furious Red has also managed this.

beakerjoe

While I myself have the 2nd worst average, it may appear Ive been disadvantaged. I disagree with that notion as the only thing that bothered me is the wait in between picks. If picks ive fancied have gone before it reaches me, it has made me adapt and think outside the box. My rosters future picks change with every round has one or two potential picks get taken by others.

I personally have done well with who Ive picked despite my bad luck. Its kept me on my toes and as of right now, my roster is in great shape in my head.

Alfred Borden

hope mrkiscool2 gets on before the next 90 minutes so he can get his pick in

beakerjoe

Raf32 wrote: »

hope mrkiscool2 gets on before the next 90 minutes so he can get his pick in

I hope so to, his roster is impressive so far. Hes cutting it fine, just over an hour left.

brianregan09

In the event of someone dropping out what happens there roster ? Up for grabs or what ?

beakerjoe

brianregan09 wrote: »

In the event of someone dropping out what happens there roster ? Up for grabs or what ?

In previous years it looks like the roster was divided up between the remaining guys

Bit earlt to be thinking hes dropped out though. Id say hes just been unable to go online the last few days.

thebostoncrab

beakerjoe wrote: »

In previous years it looks like the roster was divided up between the remaining guys

Bit earlt to be thinking hes dropped out though. Id say hes just been unable to go online the last few days.

Exactly, what happens here is he gets put the number 20 spot on this turn.

If someone drops out two things happen, either a person on the reserve list gets the roster or the picks get drafted out in some fashion. One year we were able to pick from that persons roster and another year the picks were given a random number between 1 - 15, you picked a number and you got that person.

brianregan09

No i wasn't saying he was dropping out at all, Just as im new i wanted to know how it did happen lol, Because i saw in the sign up thread or one of those before the draft thread that ye had a few dropouts in previous years

beakerjoe

With under 30 mintues now, looks like JP Liz is next up.

Bounty Hunter

Yeah I believe DM-ICE is on the backup list this year and at least one more iirc still dont expect to need backups considering how this has gone so far but every year it seems someone is unavoidable unable to finish.

beakerjoe

Out of curiosity, how long doesnt a person have to be absent for them to be deemed unable to continue?

Nody

brianregan09 wrote: »

No i wasn't saying he was dropping out at all, Just as im new i wanted to know how it did happen lol, Because i saw in the sign up thread or one of those before the draft thread that ye had a few dropouts in previous years

I think there's been drop outs every year from memory; for various reasons obviously.

Alfred Borden

Hopefully this round can fly today, i want to get one more pick in by tomorrow evening and start writing.

connemara man

If it wasn't for a dropout I wouldn't of been involved last year, and wouldn't of taken part this year

beakerjoe

connemara man wrote: »

If it wasn't for a dropout I wouldn't of been involved last year, and wouldn't of taken part this year

Every cloud has a silver lining :rolleyes:

brianregan09

Will one of us pm JP liz now or what ?

connemara man

beakerjoe wrote: »

Every cloud has a silver lining :rolleyes:

well for me anyway