Uncool Facebook dead and buried as teens 'unlike' it in droves, study says

Corvo Attano

batistuta9 wrote: »

neither would i but of the two i think message boards are the more likely to be.
though i think studies showed spending a lot of time on FB brings on depression, symptoms of it, that's irrelevant here though

Very true. Generally due to feelings of inadequacy.

batistuta9 wrote: »

neither would i but of the two i think message though on messages boards with the anonymity (minimal), how many of these people are being something they're not? how many boards users interact with each other in the real world - they only do it sat behind a screen - i would say a small percentage, how many of them go to the events, etc. is that not more anti social than talking to real world friends on a social networking site?

I think that bar trolls people use message boards to express their beliefs, opinions and to try see how many agree with their viewpoint or can relate to their experiences.

And I wouldnt see it as more anti social. Both are social in different ways. We may not see each other. You may as well be my neighbour or some fella in the middle of Cork but here we are communicating with each other, sharing views and discussing an issue.

Dman001

People aren't turning away from Facebook because their parents are on it - in fairness, even if teens are friends with their parents on FB, they have the appropriate measures to block most things from them. New, alternative means of communicating have come into play, and are distracting people away from Facebook, such as SnapChat, WhatsApp, etc.

As bad as society has become with Facebook being a main tool for communication, I fear a world in which SnapChat becomes the norm for socialising and communicating.....

Corvo Attano

Dman001 wrote: »

People aren't turning away from Facebook because their parents are on it - in fairness, even if teens are friends with their parents on FB, they have the appropriate measures to block most things from them. New, alternative means of communicating have come into play, and are distracting people away from Facebook, such as SnapChat, WhatsApp, etc.

As bad as society has become with Facebook being a main tool for communication, I fear a world in which SnapChat becomes the norm for socialising and communicating.....

Thats a good point. Facebook isnt dead. And PArents didnt kill it like the article seems to emphasise. Its just there are better ways of doing things.

A clever picture - Snapchat
A nice picture - Instagram
An idea or short comentary - Twitter
Messaging - Viber or WhatsApp

Events and socialising with friends - Facebook.

At one point Facebook was all

Capt'n Midnight

Wasn't there something about 10% of it's UK users deserting because they were sick of ads.

Not to mention they keep changing the layout and privacy settings

batistuta9

Corvo Attano wrote: »

I think that bar trolls people use message boards to express their beliefs, opinions and to try see how many agree with their viewpoint or can relate to their experiences.

And I wouldnt see it as more anti social. Both are social in different ways. We may not see each other. You may as well be my neighbour or some fella in the middle of Cork but here we are communicating with each other, sharing views and discussing an issue.

maybe it isn't i know what you mean but the people who class social networks as anti social seem to think talking to strangers online and i would think in the large majority of cases never even meeting these people isn't as anti social as talking to friends online and meeting them in the real world

& that's what i don't get:
talk to friends online, that'll you interact with in the real world = anti social
talk to strangers online, you'll likely never meet = fine

surely the more 'complete' social relationship is the social network-real world one as it has the most social aspects to it

Corvo Attano

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Wasn't there something about 10% of it's UK users deserting because they were sick of ads.

Not to mention they keep changing the layout and privacy settings

Mr.S wrote: »

With Auto-play videos coming to Facebook though, I can see a lot of people getting sick of it!

The only thing I really use Facebook for is events and the chat system, and then a place to collectively view photos.

These encapsulate the downfall of Facebook. It is trying to be a master of all things and its very quickly falling from being jack of all trades.

They keep throwing features at users that they dont really want and its bloating the experience and will simply become too complicated for what people will tolerate from a social network.

batistuta9 wrote: »

maybe it isn't i know what you mean but the people who class social networks as anti social seem to think talking to strangers online and i would think in the large majority of cases never even meeting these people isn't as anti social as talking to friends online and meeting them in the real world

& that's what i don't get:
talk to friends online, that'll you interact with in the real world = anti social
talk to strangers online, you'll likely never meet = fine

surely the more 'complete' social relationship is the social network-real world one as it has the most social aspects to it

I dont think they see it as completely anti social. Rather they take the side of the argument that by having this website to keep up with others we dont make an effort to do such in real life. I dont believe that.

batistuta9

Corvo Attano wrote: »

I dont think they see it as completely anti social. Rather they take the side of the argument that by having this website to keep up with others we dont make an effort to do such in real life. I dont believe that.

i think they do, that's the way it comes across to me anyway all the times i've seen it here (this hasn't just popped up in this thread)
read this post again http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=88197445&postcount=49 that the impression i always get from it

whereas i would think it only enhances the real world friendships they have

Corvo Attano

Same here. Facebook alows me to keep up with my old school friends and share with my new college friends.

Without Facebook I wouldnt keep up with some of these people because I really wouldnt care. A common argument is that it stops you calling these people and meeting up. I dont want to call and meet up with most of these people. Its cool we can keep up now but I dont think Facebook stops me doing it in real life.


Without Viber and Facebook talking to my college friends has been made easy over the holidays. I still want to see them all again in Janurary and miss them but at least I can still chat.

AlanS181824

No... FaceBook don't die... Now where will I post all my selfies!!!

Well, I'm off to SnapChat some selfies :P

Irish Guitarist

Corvo Attano wrote: »

Its an industry trend that the older the age the longer it takes to adapt to new technologies and ideas or services like social networks.

Facebook has been around for almost ten years. People who are parents of teenagers were probably using Facebook when their kids were too young to know how to operate a computer. Before their kids were born it's highly likely that these parents would have been using chat rooms and sending emails.

Teenagers didn't invent the internet and people over the age of thirty aren't necessarily Luddites who spent their youth communicating through the use of carrier pigeons and smoke signals.

123balltv

Always knew facebook wouldn't last

lorrieq

I wouldn't really agree. Facebook is the only platform that offers almost everything. Chat, games, news, groups, events you name it.
Yes WhatsApp is becoming popular but it is just an instant messaging service, which Facebook has its own of.

Facebook has lasted 10 years already and is hugely successful. 500 million accounts being used everyday recently. What do you mean it wouldn't last? Facebook is very much alive and it deserves that as it is a great service.

jacksie66

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Ahhhhh its grand

jacksie66 wrote: »

I want to delete my Facebook profile. Sick off all the nonsense associated with it. Thing is, I'm living in New Zealand now and its a great way to keep in contact with people at home..

I share your sentiments. I used to hate facebook, and probably only checked it once a week. I use it a lot now since I moved away, it's just so easy to keep in contact with everyone...almost to the point that I couldn't do without it. I can understand the hate for it though, no privacy whatsoever and full of absolute crap.

Corvo Attano

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Teenagers didn't invent the internet and people over the age of thirty aren't necessarily Luddites who spent their youth communicating through the use of carrier pigeons and smoke signals.

I never refered to them as Luddites. However its undeniable that younger people pick up new services and platforms quicker and older people are slow to change.

lorrieq wrote: »

Facebook is the only platform that offers almost everything. Chat, games, news, groups, events you name it.

Thats what is killing it. In a bid to keep people coming to Facebook they are on a never ending binge of new functions that only serve to clutter the core experience.

WoollyRedHat

antodeco wrote: »

All the cool kids use FriendFace

WTF? Why the face.

suicide_circus wrote: »

Whatsapp is literally the best thing ever.

I prefer wassup.

Ghost Buster

anncoates wrote: »

Teenagers leaving a social network I use is bad news how?

I deleted every teen off my FB friend list in a fit of pique after my feed began to resemble ASK FM. Great news

electrobanana

but how will we get to know what people are eating and what restaurants their at when they go out

Corvo Attano

electrobanana wrote: »

but how will we get to know what people are eating and what restaurants their at when they go out

Instagram took that role a while ago.

electrobanana

Corvo Attano wrote: »

Instagram took that role a while ago.

maybe so but it really bugs the crap out of me.

Corvo Attano

I know. Told my friend to cop on a stop that a while back.

Mountainsandh

There's a good steady market for the oldies to stay on Facebook I think : expats, like me, who want to stay in touch with family, and pensioners, who seem to have taken to it nicely. I know my kids 2 grannies are using Facebook daily, the 2 are widows and it's such a brilliant way to make sure they feel connected, and have somewhere to turn to for company of an evening.
Facebook has cut down on my (international) phonebills considerably, and I feel more in touch with the aunts, uncles, cousins, sisters in France than when I used the phone only.

It's great if the youngsters put it on the backburner until they can spell (that is, in their 30s ???).

Sky King

So, whats next?

Hopefully what's next is that Google stop being a shower of fking turbo-cu*ts and just accept that Google+ is a piece of fking sh!t and that nobody wants to use the fcuking thing - let alone merge their youtube account with it in some inexplicable fking top comment thread comment page plus circle friend- facing bull**** that I don't understand.

I love you google - but you are fking up a really good flagship product by forcing this google plus bullshi* down people's throats. It's gonna bite you back.

Corvo Attano

Mountainsandh wrote: »

It's great if the youngsters put it on the backburner until they can spell (that is, in their 30s ???).

How old do you think I am? My posting here reflects on facebook too.

electrobanana

Corvo Attano wrote: »

I know. Told my friend to cop on a stop that a while back.

iv gone one step further and started blocking people that do it.

Corvo Attano

Sky King wrote: »

Hopefully what's next is that Google stop being a shower of fking turbo-cu*ts and just accept that Google+ is a piece of fking sh!t and that nobody wants to use the fcuking thing - let alone merge their youtube account with it in some inexplicable fking top comment thread comment page plus circle friend- facing bull**** that I don't understand.

I love you google - but you are fking up a really good product by forcing this bull**** down people's throats. It's gonna bite you back.

Google+ as a social network is actually very good. It has better grouping and sharing than facebook. But adaption is slow and Google has made people wary with their desire to roll all into 1.

Sky King

Corvo Attano wrote: »

Google+ as a social network is actually very good. It has better grouping and sharing than facebook. But adaption is slow and Google has made people wary with their desire to roll all into 1.

I am sure it's great. However - I actually don't care how good it is as a social network. I don't want to network with anyone socially when I am on youtube. I just want to watch and occasionally comment on videos in a straightforward way.

But no - I have to set up some fckface social networking profile in order to do that now.

happyviolet

Dman001 wrote: »

People aren't turning away from Facebook because their parents are on it - in fairness, even if teens are friends with their parents on FB, they have the appropriate measures to block most things from them. New, alternative means of communicating have come into play, and are distracting people away from Facebook, such as SnapChat, WhatsApp, etc.

As bad as society has become with Facebook being a main tool for communication, I fear a world in which SnapChat becomes the norm for socialising and communicating.....

Christ, I really hope not.

Corvo Attano

Sky King wrote: »

I am sure it's great. However - I actually don't care how good it is as a social network. I don't want to network with anyone socially when I am on youtube. I just want to watch and occasionally comment on videos in a straightforward way.

But no - I have to set up some fckface social networking profile in order to do that now.

Exactly why people are wary. We didnt want that intergration.

Be glad that it just means you cant access the comment section. That **** lowers your IQ.

Sky King

Indeed. But the Dead Parrot comment thread reconstructions are priceless!

Corvo Attano

A lot of youtubers are disabling their comments section completely in protest.

Mountainsandh

Corvo Attano wrote: »

How old do you think I am? My posting here reflects on facebook too.

Sorry that's true. Old grumpy moment here.
Lots of well spoken literate youngsters too, I tend to not sample too much of that in my every day life, thus the grumpy huffing.

catallus

What I can't understand is why no one has started a website called Compuglobalhypermeganet, like Homer started.

Corvo Attano

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Sorry that's true. Old grumpy moment here.
Lots of well spoken litterate youngsters too, I tend to not sample too much of that in my every day life, thus the grumpy huffing.

Tis grand. Ive seen the illiterate ones too.

If it makes you feel better we laugh and complain about them too.

GLaDOS

catallus wrote: »

What I can't understand is why no one has started a website called Compuglobalhypermeganet, like Homer started.

They did

Facebook isn't going anywhere as far as I can see. The apps mentioned in the OP are a lot more specialised than facebook, which covers a lot more bases. In the likes of twitter and instagram they can be linked to facebook.

I like facebook, it's a handy way to keep up with friends and news. Also useful for picking up new bands (the post-rock page is constantly posting great bands) and the likes of I Fucking Love Science posts some really interesting stuff.

Some people post rubbish, so I block them. Problem solved.

catallus

ScienceNerd wrote: »

They did

That is awful!

SpaceTime

I have to say I've kinda grown very bored of Facebook (quite a few years ago).

It was all fun when new people were appearing all the time, then you've basically added everyone you know and the people who are adding you are people who you probably don't keep in touch with for a reason. That and companies trying to add me.

I just see it as a bit like a glorified address book. I don't really post on it anymore and anytime I do log into it it's just some annoying 25-40 year old parents obsessing about their latest offspring.

If a giant corporation wants to know all my marketing data, they'll have to give me more than Facebook does. The trade's not worth it and I value my privacy.

Corvo Attano

When they say its dying, its a bit like the Soviet Union. Its not going anywhere fast.

SpaceTime

That's the thing though with the internet and technology. It can move so quickly sometimes that something huge last year could be a vague memory.

Remember Blackberry??!! Nokia??!! anyone?!?! Yahoo!!?? Netscape?? AIM?? MSN?? ICQ??

From what I can see, I seem to spend most of my time using WhatsApp to keep in touch with most of my friends and Twitter for random stuff.

Obviously, I post a bit on Boards.ie too, but I don't know any of you lot personally

up for anything

I will find out where my children migrate to and follow them. They will not escape embarrassing mammy type mammy.

jacksie66

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jacksie66

jacksie66 wrote: »

I deleted my Google plus account yesterday. Thank **** its gone. Actually I spent yesterday deleting a lot of accounts from various websites I don't use. AFAIK I'm only left with gmail, Facebook, boards and adverts. If I didn't actually have to have em in this day and age and under the circumstances, they'd all be nuked from orbit..

But do you not still have a google plus account by default if your on gmail? Dont get me wrong im genuinely not sure but I thought everything was under one roof with google these times?

batistuta9

Deleted User wrote: »

But do you not still have a google plus account by default if your on gmail? Dont get me wrong im genuinely not sure but I thought everything was under one roof with google these times?

you can deleted it/unlink it

chrissb8

What's this hatred for facebook? People hate smartphones not facebook. Facebook and social networks are one of the greatest inventions ever. As with anything there are drawbacks. Before social networks it was tv and videogames. Half the stuff I go to or hear about these days is through facebook. My college work with groups is organized through facebook. I love the fact I can trace back important events through the last few years on facebook and see how things have changed. What is wrong with having something like that! When I'm in the company of people my facebook isn't going on. I can see how people hate the drawbacks. I do as well but please don't say people would be better off without it. It has pretty much set the bar on how people communicate through technology and that can only be progressive.

Mint Aero

chrissb8 wrote: »

What's this hatred for facebook? People hate smartphones not facebook. Facebook and social networks are one of the greatest inventions ever. As with anything there are drawbacks. Before social networks it was tv and videogames. Half the stuff I go to or hear about these days is through facebook. My college work with groups is organized through facebook. I love the fact I can trace back important events through the last few years on facebook and see how things have changed. What is wrong with having something like that! When I'm in the company of people my facebook isn't going on. I can see how people hate the drawbacks. I do as well but please don't say people would be better off without it. It has pretty much set the bar on how people communicate through technology and that can only be progressive.

Gawd I hate you from that post alone.

lufties

chrissb8 wrote: »

What's this hatred for facebook? People hate smartphones not facebook. Facebook and social networks are one of the greatest inventions ever. As with anything there are drawbacks. Before social networks it was tv and videogames. Half the stuff I go to or hear about these days is through facebook. My college work with groups is organized through facebook. I love the fact I can trace back important events through the last few years on facebook and see how things have changed. What is wrong with having something like that! When I'm in the company of people my facebook isn't going on. I can see how people hate the drawbacks. I do as well but please don't say people would be better off without it. It has pretty much set the bar on how people communicate through technology and that can only be progressive.

I left facebook around 8 months ago, Its only now I realise that I've caught up with a good friend of mine around only three times in the last 7 years. Of course this isn't down to facebook, but fb definately made me feel like we saw each other more often.

Im not 'anti' social networks, but being off facebook has been a truly positive experience. Nowadays I use whatsapp and viber, concentrating on my real friends and loved ones.. works perfectly.:)

stefan idiot jones

I'm 42. Skype and email.

Thankfully all this social media passed me by but within my own extended family it has caused upset.

Luckily I'm mature and DON'T WASH MY DIRTY LAUNDRY IN PUBLIC.

SeantheMan

lufties wrote: »

Of course this isn't down to facebook, but fb definately made me feel like we saw each other more often.

And was the "feeling like we saw each other" ...basically checking out their pictures and status updates ?
Did you message them during that time at all or was it the same 'adding OLD childhood friends' and just checking their profiles ?

gramar

Social media will come and go. Facebook for me as company is essentially worthless because it's success or failure is based on the whim of a generation's idea about what is cool or not. New people coming into the social network world are not flattered by Facebook. It's too big and too mainstream and simply not cool enough.

As for people already using it the novelty will wear off and new users will be few and far between. It will reach a point that FB will only be hanging on to legacy users with very little new user take up as people look for new cooler alternatives. It's the nature of the business.

lufties

SeantheMan wrote: »

And was the "feeling like we saw each other" ...basically checking out their pictures and status updates ?
Did you message them during that time at all or was it the same 'adding OLD childhood friends' and just checking their profiles ?

Status', pictures, and we were in contact a lot discussing things and messages. We both have been travelling seperately the last 5 yrs pretty much so its not been often we've been in Ireland at the same time. The whole fb world seems all a bit silly to me though. Going online to be met with what my 'friends' are having for breakfast etc, in their facebook life that generally doesn't match their real one.

The same could be said about this site, A load of anonymous people, posting stuff with people they've never seen or met and prob never will. That is the beauty of it though, because people can say whats really on their mind, rather than the stuff one is subjected to on 'bragbook', :rolleyes:

Each to their own at the end of the day though!