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Are you happy being fat (Overweight)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Lia_lia wrote: »

    I get seriously sick of overweight people giving out about how overweight they are whilst not doing anything about it. And then giving out to me for being thin. Don't really care what other people weigh, but I just don't understand these people who constantly give out about their weight yet still east sh*t all the time :confused:

    Same reasons people find it hard to quit smoking, drinking, taking drugs, get out of bad relationships. Some people have an unhealthy relationship with food and telling them to just stop eating isn't going to solve the underlying issues of why they eat in excess.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Yes and no. I'd agree that most addictions do reflect some underlying psychological issue. Food, cigarettes, whatever, are used to fill a gaping hole. Having said that, simply quitting can be beneficial in itself. Feeling healthier and fitter can boost someone's self esteem and make them feel better about themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    Lost 5 stone in my time, could still do with losing another 2 but not feeling mental about it or anything. My biggest impediment over the years has not been food but alcohol. But I've began to cut down over the last month and tbh, the feeling of being alcohol free is just as good as the feeling I get from a good work out. Hoping I can continue that trend into the new year.

    I am happy anyway (especially over the last month). I've been trained in mindfulness so if I ever find myself drifting negatively so to speak, I'm pretty good at taking a step back and taking stock of a situation. I've always been of the belief that ultimately, you are on your own in this world, so it's important not to worry about what others think and to be kind to yourself.

    My counsellor recommends mindfulness mmy downfall is chocolate and he has suggested looking into mindfulness and chocolate. I'll be buying a book on mindfulness when I get to easons but have been reading about it online too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    carraig2 wrote: »
    I have a fair bit. Also I am setting realistic targets this time. Failed too often before.
    May is only 18 weeks away
    That's a great attitude to have. Crash diets don't work, no matter what the magazines say. If you lose weight at a steady rate of about 1-2 pounds per week, you are more likely to keep the it off. So many people make the mistake of wanting to lose weight rapidly and go on ridiculous diets and lose some initially but can't stick with the new routine and end up putting back on the weight. Losing weight is about making lifestyle changes that are realistic and manageable once the weight is gone.

    Good luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Yes and no. I'd agree that most addictions do reflect some underlying psychological issue. Food, cigarettes, whatever, are used to fill a gaping hole. Having said that, simply quitting can be beneficial in itself. Feeling healthier and fitter can boost someone's self esteem and make them feel better about themselves.

    simply quitting will never apply to weight loss as you can't just quit food.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Quitting overeating, more like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Was always a XXL in clothes and to fool myself I put it down as "being broad" having played rugby for over 12 years. Getting married next year so I decided, rather than do a crash diet and put more weight back on after the wedding I'd facilitate a life style change to hopefully keep the weight off for good (or at the very least know that I could lose the weight in time for the wedding following the same original programme). So far I've lost over 3 stone, back to my "playing" weight when I actually played rugby.
    I definitely feel healthier and fitter but not having moobs and having shorts that fit well has been an unexpected source of pride and a definite confidence boost.

    To be honest it was quite easy, the change of diet was the hardest, following a salad diet 5 nights a week but the actual excercise though tough at the beginning actually drives me forward now.
    Big advocate of the EatLessRunMore™ Diet ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I don't think anyone would choose to be overweight/fat for the sake of being it (okay, I'm sure someone would, but most people wouldn't). But I can completely understand why people 'choose' to be in the real world.

    I did sports all through uni and after I graduated I took to the gym. It was great. I enjoyed it and I was in great shape. Good times. I'd spend an hour in the gym, six days per week. And I'd spend a lot of time keeping track of what I ate and preparing healthy food. After two years of that, I was really happy with how I looked.

    Now, I never work out and I'm overweight. I'm getting more and more overweight. I hate being overweight, but....it's just a matter of priorities.

    I have a long commute (~1 hour each way) followed by a demanding job with reasonably long hours. If I leave my apartment at 6am, I'll be walking in the door at 6pm. I don't have a car, the nearest gym would be 20 minutes out of my way, and expensive too! But I'd still do it, except...on my night and weekends, I'm trying to complete a post-graduate degree.

    For the last three years, that's been my life. When I'm not at work, I'm at school. Every 4 months or so, I'll have a week or two without class, but not enough to make a difference in my fitness. So I don't bother.

    I've tried to do little things that people talk about. Take the stairs! Walk at a brisk pace. It's all a joke. When I worked out properly I saw real results, but this stuff is just an annoyance. It doesn't help.

    Yeah, I could start eating like a rabbit and, while I'd still be out of shape, I'd be skinny and out of shape; but it just comes back to not being worth it. The highlight of my day is ducking out of the office and eating a large, fattening lunch. Giving it up so I can be slightly less fat seems like a bad deal.

    Ultimately, yes, I'm choosing to be fat. But I'm choosing my job, my education and my wife over hitting the gym. So, it sucks, but it's where I'm at. I can only imagine what it would be like if I had kids to worry about on top of it all.

    My daughter has a similar routine, she's up at six to commute and doesn't get home til 6pm but I'm more concerned because she is withering away to nothing because of it. She is small in stature anyway at a bare 5'2" but she is barely 7 stone at this stage and as a parent it is worrying. I can't be there to make sure she eats properly during the day and regardless of her weight, it's a lifestyle that is just as unhealthy as if she were overweight. I try to tell her she needs to take care of her body, I'd be happier knowing she's getting good fuel nutritionally and stays strong too.
    It is more about being healthy than overweight or underweight, I'm touching 40 and I'm more aware of what goes into my body than ever and how I use exercise to maintain strength, focus and fitness as I age. These are things I try to teach her, rather than how to keep your body looking "hot".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭carraig2


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    That's a great attitude to have. Crash diets don't work, no matter what the magazines say. If you lose weight at a steady rate of about 1-2 pounds per week, you are more likely to keep the it off. So many people make the mistake of wanting to lose weight rapidly and go on ridiculous diets and lose some initially but can't stick with the new routine and end up putting back on the weight. Losing weight is about making lifestyle changes that are realistic and manageable once the weight is gone.

    Good luck :)

    Thank you very much for encouragement. Lifted my day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    Quitting overeating, more like it.

    addictions are never that easy.

    Most people who over eat do so for comfort. Take UCDvet, he has a good life, but eating is one of the few things he finds relaxing and that breaks up his day.

    Telling someone to just stop eating so much is folly and will only make them feel bad. (why can't I just eat less) meaning more often than not, they'll eat more.

    Better off trying to show them how they can eat tasty, but healthy food, and to encourage to pick up a hobby were fitness is a "side effect" of that hobby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Addle wrote: »
    It was a serious question.
    I've been treated very badly by some people because I'm fat.
    Then there's the common abuse from strangers.
    That's why I'm so surprised the initial question on the other thread was asked; nobody has ever been bothered by upsetting me!
    Poor me!

    It took me a while to realise it, but there is a massive difference between being miserable because of the shape of your body, and being miserable because other people are being arseholes and treating you like sh*t.

    And that was when I realised that I do in fact love my body.
    It's doing everything I want it to and then some, it feels wonderful, it's soft and warm and lovely.
    I have been losing weight for the last 2 years, at a rate of about 10kg a year, but my aim is not normal weight. My aim is a size 16/18, simply so I'll have more choice in clothes. I don't imagine I'll want to lose more weight once I'm that size.

    You can't stop people being arseholes, so why try and please them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Shenshen wrote: »
    It took me a while to realise it, but there is a massive difference between being miserable because of the shape of your body, and being miserable because other people are being arseholes and treating you like sh*t.

    And that was when I realised that I do in fact love my body.
    It's doing everything I want it to and then some, it feels wonderful, it's soft and warm and lovely.
    I have been losing weight for the last 2 years, at a rate of about 10kg a year, but my aim is not normal weight. My aim is a size 16/18, simply so I'll have more choice in clothes. I don't imagine I'll want to lose more weight once I'm that size.

    You can't stop people being arseholes, so why try and please them?

    I want to lose weight for myself, not to please others.
    A better wardrobe is a motivator for me too.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    addictions are never that easy.

    Most people who over eat do so for comfort. Take UCDvet, he has a good life, but eating is one of the few things he finds relaxing and that breaks up his day.

    Telling someone to just stop eating so much is folly and will only make them feel bad. (why can't I just eat less) meaning more often than not, they'll eat more.

    Better off trying to show them how they can eat tasty, but healthy food, and to encourage to pick up a hobby were fitness is a "side effect" of that hobby.

    If you read my earlier post, I agreed that addictions have a psychological root that need to be addressed or at least understood. My point was that stopping in itself does have uplifting effects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    I've never met a fat happy person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    bur wrote: »
    I've never met a fat happy person.

    You should get out more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    bur wrote: »
    I've never met a fat happy person.

    Bur the Fat Happy Persn Convention is taking place on the 4th January (This Saturday) you should come along, it's full of fat happy people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    Will there be cake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    bur wrote: »
    I've never met a fat happy person.

    Maybe if you stopped shouting abuse at them in the street?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    bur wrote: »
    I've never met a fat happy person.

    Can you tell me tomorrow's lotto numbers while you're at it too given your amazing psychic prowess. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    Will there be cake?


    Silly question........No


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    addictions are never that easy.

    Most people who over eat do so for comfort. Take UCDvet, he has a good life, but eating is one of the few things he finds relaxing and that breaks up his day.

    Telling someone to just stop eating so much is folly and will only make them feel bad. (why can't I just eat less) meaning more often than not, they'll eat more.

    Bingo. Speaking for those of us on the other end of the scale (pardon the pun), it's incredibly frustrating when you see or hear comments like "ugh those anorexic* girls look so gross, don't they know what they're doing to their health, why don't they just eat", and I know it's very frustrating to people close to me that I don't "just eat". But they may as well tell me "just go outside and take flight".

    I used to spend quite a lot of time on eating disorder support sites, and I had way more in common with people who just couldn't stop eating than I did with people who would show up desperate to find out how to get anorexia, or looking for tips on fasting etc, even though a lot of them were way closer to my weight and eating habits. I'm still in touch with some of those girls, around times like Christmas it's great to be able to exchange freak-out emails with them over how to cope with all the food-based socialising, even though in some cases there's 100lbs of a weight difference between us. Anyways, "just stop eating so much" or "just eat more" is unhelpful advice that everyone can just stop giving. If someone was looking on advice on how to best go about learning Japanese, "learn Japanese" wouldn't be an acceptable response like.

    *I'm not technically anorexic, but typing out Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified again and again is a lot of bother. Although I guess it would burn more calories...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭tempura




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Myself at the start of 2013 who looks like a slim bloke was overweight by about 1.5 stone built up over about 5 yrs or so, usual noticeable beer belly protruding out. Since late May to Sept, through exercise and not overeating(still had treats and usual food as part of a routine), lost a stone up to Sept. Then stopped exercising due to lazyness and did not pile weight back on, reason being i didn't overeat. I'm actually slightly down a few pounds still since Sept measurement.

    Moral of the story, every week you count what you eat(calories for defo and perhaps less fat). Your body responds to the calculations and adjusts accordingly, eating fat when a net loss occurs. Now i'm a bloke in my late 30's, those of you who are younger watch what happens when you reach 35 or so. It gets damn harder to lose weight due to metabolism so while you're still young do the adjustment. Oh and by the way you are allowed beer, i'm living evidence that you can drink and still lose weight, drink is only a factor in your bodys calculations of having fat, obviously avoids late night fast food :)

    To add, I did have 2 pairs of jeans and a few tops which didn't fit me. Kept them and there is just inner joy when the same clothes fit you again after all those years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭gemini_girl


    I am overweight, actually I'm obese. Wouldve always been between a 10 & 12 until I got pregnant & put on 5 stone. Lost it, got pregnant again & put on 5 stone again. At the moment i have 3.5 stone to lose. I'm overweight over 2 years now & I hate it.
    Apart from not liking how I look I worry mostly about my health. I started weight watchers last month & its working for me so I hope this time next year I'll be back to a size 12 (16 atm).
    An interesting thing that happened me during the week while out walking ... 2 pre teen boys (12 ish) were in front of me, they both started messing & pretending to be bulls (horns on their heads, scraping foot off ground etc), for a few seconds i wondered what they were doing until I walked past them & then I copped on when they started Moo ing at me ferociously & roaring laughing & pointing at me. Obviously then the penny dropped that it was because I am fat. I was so upset over them as it was my first time being humiliated like that publicly over my weight :-(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    WhiteTiger wrote: »
    I am overweight, actually I'm obese. Wouldve always been between a 10 & 12 until I got pregnant & put on 5 stone. Lost it, got pregnant again & put on 5 stone again. At the moment i have 3.5 stone to lose. I'm overweight over 2 years now & I hate it.
    Apart from not liking how I look I worry mostly about my health. I started weight watchers last month & its working for me so I hope this time next year I'll be back to a size 12 (16 atm).
    An interesting thing that happened me during the week while out walking ... 2 pre teen boys (12 ish) were in front of me, they both started messing & pretending to be bulls (horns on their heads, scraping foot off ground etc), for a few seconds i wondered what they were doing until I walked past them & then I copped on when they started Moo ing at me ferociously & roaring laughing & pointing at me. Obviously then the penny dropped that it was because I am fat. I was so upset over them as it was my first time being humiliated like that publicly over my weight :-(

    Children are fnucking cnuts, WhiteTiger - if it wasn't your weight it'd be your hairstyle, the colour of your coat, the bags you're carrying... I once got a gang of urchins at a bus stop trying to grope my breasts to see "are they real, miss?" :mad::mad::mad: Just ignore them and make sure to bring up your own with good manners.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Muise... wrote: »
    Children are fnucking cnuts, WhiteTiger - if it wasn't your weight it'd be your hairstyle, the colour of your coat, the bags you're carrying... I once got a gang of urchins at a bus stop trying to grope my breasts to see "are they real, miss?" :mad::mad::mad: Just ignore them and make sure to bring up your own with good manners.

    WTF??

    I mean when I read this, it seriously pissed me off about society. When I was a young grunt, we never ever disrespected our women. Jesus, maybe I sound like a knight in shining armour but god help if I was there at the moment, you wouldn't have suffered that abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭jantheman91


    I think anybody that says they're happy being overweight is lying.

    There is no attraction to being fat.

    I'm overweight, hate it, and am doing all I can to remedy it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    moxin wrote: »
    WTF??

    I mean when I read this, it seriously pissed me off about society. When I was a young grunt, we never ever disrespected our women. Jesus, maybe I sound like a knight in shining armour but god help if I was there at the moment, you wouldn't have suffered that abuse.

    meh, don't worry Sir Moxin, the esprit d'escalier imagining of kicking their fncuking heads in does the trick for us womenfolk. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭u_c_thesecond


    i like cheese


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭bur


    blacklilly wrote: »
    Bur the Fat Happy Persn Convention is taking place on the 4th January (This Saturday) you should come along, it's full of fat happy people.


    Oh goody..my comment was 100% sarcastic btw. Fat people are some of my favourite people in the whole wide world.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I think anybody that says they're happy being overweight is lying.

    There is no attraction to being fat.

    I'm overweight, hate it, and am doing all I can to remedy it.

    I'm getting a little sick of being called a liar.
    Just because you aren't happy with it means nobody else can possibly be? Seriously?

    As for attraction - I'm not attracted to slim or skinny men, least of all muscly. I like them with a good bit of fat. And I've been told more than once that many men are attracted to big ladies.

    Please don't assume the rest of the world feels and thinks exactly like yourself, chances are they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I think anybody that says they're happy being overweight is lying.

    There is no attraction to being fat.

    I'm overweight, hate it, and am doing all I can to remedy it.

    I was unhappy being overweight so I dropped a few stone, and I was still unhappy!

    Now I'm a couple of stone heavier again and I am happy. Mostly because my life is a lot better now. If you're unhappy with your life in general and think looking better is going to solve all your problems then that's lying really.

    Maybe I would be happier if I lost some weight but it's not going to make that much of difference overall. Don't pin life's happiness on once facet of yourself.


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