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Be still my beating heart

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Ososlo wrote: »
    I'm sure you've whizzed past me on many occasions in the PP.

    only when your not wearing lycra...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭TRR


    only when your not wearing lycra...........

    Ha ha classic. The mrs is back running and came in tonight head to toe in Lycra. I'm delighted to see her back running :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭wrstan


    Nice to see you loggin here Ososlo!

    I wouldn't worry about your speed relative to your mileage. I was really impressed with your charge up the 1,000 mile leader board last year. I'm sure that base of low intensity miles will serve your running goals really well this year, whether its for a 5k or Marathon.

    Speaking of which I know you say your key aim is to get faster, but have you a specific distance/time goal? (it always helps to write them down :cool:)

    Hope your running in 2014 brings you on just as rewarding a journey as it did in 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭AdpRo


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Hi Weetabix
    From January to April I did a bit of interval and tempo work leading up to shorter races so I would have done for instance 3-5 x 1 mile at 5k pace with with 1.5 min recoveries on a Tuesday and a 20 minute tempo run on a Thursday. From May to August I only did one speed session a week which was a tempo session, so 20 mins a bit slower than 10k pace. I didn't do any speedwork in September/October up to DCM but would have done 4 miles or so at marathon pace at the very end of my long run, so 16 miles slow and the last 4 at predicted marathon pace.
    Yes all my easy and long slow runs were done at sub 136bpm so sub 75% of my max heart rate although I did allow for heart rate drift on a very long run and going up hills, the heart rate would naturally be a bit higher as I'd get more tired/extra effort on hills, but I'd try to keep it under 140bpm.
    I do think the hr training allowed me to build a super aerobic base. I could do a training run of 4 hours and not feel wrecked as it was all so easy. I think I'm mentally more suited towards running long and slow rather than short and fast also.
    Are you considering/training for another marathon?

    Thanks for that reply, definitely something I will look into more. Not currently training for anything, we have a baby due in the very near future so running will be taking a back seat for now but plan to spend the next few months doing easy runs when I can and then maybe target another marathon early next year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    wrstan wrote: »
    Nice to see you loggin here Ososlo!

    I wouldn't worry about your speed relative to your mileage. I was really impressed with your charge up the 1,000 mile leader board last year. I'm sure that base of low intensity miles will serve your running goals really well this year, whether its for a 5k or Marathon.

    Speaking of which I know you say your key aim is to get faster, but have you a specific distance/time goal? (it always helps to write them down :cool:)

    Hope your running in 2014 brings you on just as rewarding a journey as it did in 2013.

    Thanks wrstan. Game on for 2014 1,000 mile challenge :cool:

    Main distances on my list to target are 5k and marathon but I want to get better across the board so will be doing plenty of races of all distances between. I don't have specific time goals to be honest, I just want to do the best I can possibly do. Sorry to be so vague!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    3 miles at recovery pace just to make sure the legs are ok after hill sprints yesterday. Feel great :D Tiny twinge in my behind earlier in the day but some foam rolling and butt clenching during the day seemes to have done the trick :D

    Day from hell today with only 2 hours sleep (damn insomnia) and was working at a job where I couldn't drink much water as I had limited loo access and only had time for a tiny bit of a salad for lunch so thought this run would be a nightmare and was prepared to walk this recovery run if necessary but I feel 100,000,000,000 times better after it. Oh the power of running! There's nothing like it:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Wednesday 8th January

    6 miles easy at 10:30 min/mile. http://connect.garmin.com/activity/426646525
    Felt like a sack of potatoes starting out :confused: but felt better as the run went on. Probably due to the poor hydration and fuelling yesterday.
    Would have liked to go a bit further but conscious of pushing too much too soon. Weather superb for running, really couldn't be better. Sought out any hillier spots in the area as my motto for January is to "embrace the hills".
    Think I'll strap on the hr monitor some day soon to see where I really am fitness wise. The break from it has been good but I'd like to see where I stand in comparison to September when in full fitness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    only when your not wearing lycra...........

    Pics.... Just to check her gait and running form ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Pics.... Just to check her gait and running form ;)

    Down boy;)

    Wednesday pm:
    30 mins of plank (side and regular), arm weights and foam rolling. Was able to do 2 min planks before the debauchery of Christmas and only managed 1.5 mins this evening :( Did 3 reps of each type so happy enough with that :) Going to incorporate a little core work most evenings from now on and not just once a week like before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Here's a series of 3 videos about running form

    You might find the second one, which is about running up hill, a bit useful

    http://www.runnersworld.com/the-starting-line/video?cm_mmc=NL-Beginners-_-1555720-_-01082014-_-How-to-Perfect-Your-Running-Form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    About time Ososlo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Thursday 9th January

    Today was a sad day :( so only one thing for it:
    5.28 miles at 9:49 min/mile. http://connect.garmin.com/activity/427240326
    Pace all over the shop but sole purpose was to clear the head.

    I've been awarded yet another contract for January which I'm delighted about but it means that the rest of the month is going to be hectic work-wise and I hope my running doesn't have to suffer and will be doing everything possible to ensure that doesn't happen!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Saturday 11 January
    10 miles at 10:07min/mile
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/428059132

    First double digit run since DCM and boy did I enjoy it :D I could have run forever today and was not happy about stopping but am trying to stay sensible and build back up gradually. I love going running on the days when there are no time constraints, nobody wants anything from me all day and I can just take my time and take in the scenery and it was extra nice as it was such a beautiful day. Looking forward to increasing the length of the longer runs again.
    Stayed local as I'm trying to find a hill to do my hill sprints for next week as it'll be too dark to go to the Phoneix Park by the time I finish work. Found a few possibilities around Glasnevin and Drumcondra areas so did a good rece of the area.

    Kept it very easy effort-wise and did the last 2 miles somewhere around marathon pace just cause I felt good and sure why not :)
    My New Year's Resolutions officially start today. Couldn't start before this due to a few things I had to partake in.
    Day 1 of no drinking.................. (want to make it to the end of the month and take it from there)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Sunday 12 January

    3.15 miles @ 11:05min/mile recovery

    Enjoyable recovery run and happy to see that I really had to make an effort to keep the pace over 11 min/mile so a signal that some kind of fitness might be returning. Legs a bit achy when I got out of bed and this did just the trick to loosen them out.
    Looking forward to getting out again later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭KielyUnusual


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Stayed local as I'm trying to find a hill to do my hill sprints for next week as it'll be too dark to go to the Phoneix Park by the time I finish work. Found a few possibilities around Glasnevin and Drumcondra areas so did a good rece of the area.

    Around Drumcondra/Glasnevin, I reckon St Mobhi Road would be a good bet for a hill session. You have a long drag up by Na Fianna and then a shorter but steeper hill coming up to the junction with Griffith Avenue depending on what you're looking for. There's also a good hill at the very top of Griffith Avenue just with the junction of the Ballymun Rd. There's never anyone on this so it would be a good quiet place for an uninterrupted workout. The Old Finglas Road has plenty of hills too if that's handier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Around Drumcondra/Glasnevin, I reckon St Mobhi Road would be a good bet for a hill session. You have a long drag up by Na Fianna and then a shorter but steeper hill coming up to the junction with Griffith Avenue depending on what you're looking for. There's also a good hill at the very top of Griffith Avenue just with the junction of the Ballymun Rd. There's never anyone on this so it would be a good quiet place for an uninterrupted workout. The Old Finglas Road has plenty of hills too if that's handier.

    Thanks KU, and they were the very hills I came upon yesterday and Washerwoman's Hill also but Mobhi Rd is more suitable I think. Short 1 min hill reps for 20 mins is the workout so it'd be best on a quieter hill or the locals might think there's a crazy woman on the loose! It won't be pretty to look at or hear:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Sunday 12 January pm
    4.52 miles in 9.57min/mile inc 5 x 20 sec strides


    Bit windy, bit wet but fun :) Even though I'm taking it easy on most of my runs, I am working a bit harder than easy pace when running against the wind and uphills, and this is something I wouldn't have done whilst wearing the HR monitor. I always maintained effort regardless of terrain/conditions to ensure I kept in the zone:cool:. Hence, the pace is a bit quicker than it used to be.

    Oops I did a bit too much this week:o Jumped from 31 miles last week to 38 this week. Legs feel great though, feel really healthy and resting heart rate coming down nicely. It was 51 going to bed last night (it's always lowest for me before going to bed). Only 2 beats faster than what it was when in full health! ALMOST BACK IN THE GAME:D:D:D

    Day 2 of no drinking............ this is gonna be hard.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Sunday 12 January pm
    4.52 miles in 9.57min/mile inc 5 x 20 sec strides


    Bit windy, bit wet but fun :) Even though I'm taking it easy on most of my runs, I am working a bit harder than easy pace when running against the wind and uphills, and this is something I wouldn't have done whilst wearing the HR monitor. I always maintained effort regardless of terrain/conditions to ensure I kept in the zone:cool:. Hence, the pace is a bit quicker than it used to be.

    Oops I did a bit too much this week:o Jumped from 31 miles last week to 38 this week. Legs feel great though, feel really healthy and resting heart rate coming down nicely. It was 51 going to bed last night (it's always lowest for me before going to bed). Only 2 beats faster than what it was when in full health! ALMOST BACK IN THE GAME:D:D:D

    Day 2 of no drinking............ this is gonna be hard.......

    Well done on making it through 2 days. Once you get over the 3rd day it gets easier but not much:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Stazza wrote: »
    Well done on making it through 2 days. Once you get over the 3rd day it gets easier but not much:)

    thanks a mill Stazza. I gave it up last year from Jan to mid-March when I had a 5k that I was wanted to do really well in. Training and race went really well so I hope to replicate that scenario for the same 5k this year. There is no doubt it has an effect on my training. Weekends are the hardest :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Sunday 12 January pm
    4.52 miles in 9.57min/mile inc 5 x 20 sec strides


    Bit windy, bit wet but fun :) Even though I'm taking it easy on most of my runs, I am working a bit harder than easy pace when running against the wind and uphills, and this is something I wouldn't have done whilst wearing the HR monitor. I always maintained effort regardless of terrain/conditions to ensure I kept in the zone:cool:. Hence, the pace is a bit quicker than it used to be.

    Oops I did a bit too much this week:o Jumped from 31 miles last week to 38 this week. Legs feel great though, feel really healthy and resting heart rate coming down nicely. It was 51 going to bed last night (it's always lowest for me before going to bed). Only 2 beats faster than what it was when in full health! ALMOST BACK IN THE GAME:D:D:D

    Day 2 of no drinking............ this is gonna be hard.......

    Hey Ososlo interesting stuff with the RHR. I'm still about 4 or 5 beats faster than last spring - which is where I want to get back to - but have seen big improvements over the last few months. Its a great indicator of fitness isn't it...sounds like your heading in the right direction :D

    Good luck with the booze ban, might try that one myself ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Runchick wrote: »
    Hey Ososlo interesting stuff with the RHR. I'm still about 4 or 5 beats faster than last spring - which is where I want to get back to - but have seen big improvements over the last few months. Its a great indicator of fitness isn't it...sounds like your heading in the right direction :D

    Good luck with the booze ban, might try that one myself ;)
    lol just this second posted on your log:D
    Yes measuring rhr a fantastic indicator, especially when one has been following it so closely for so long. I can tell any second of any day what it's likely to be and I'm almost always right :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Monday 13 January

    5 miles at 10:27min/mile


    Challenging day. 2 hours sleep last night :( Knot-like pain in my stomach this morning which lasted all day. 2nd day on a new project where I wanted to shine... i didn't shine very brightly. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. Half an hour for lunch which was spent zipping over to another part of town to pick up material for another new project which I somehow mysteriously have to fit in to a 7 day week. No time for much food all day except for a teeny weeny tofu sandwich, a banana and a handful of nuts. Not very much water... too busy to pee:(
    Feel a lot better after my little jaunt however:) Stomach pain gone! Things can only get better!

    oh how I'd love a glass of wine though:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    sleep........meh..........its over-rated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Monday 13 January

    5 miles at 10:27min/mile


    Challenging day. 2 hours sleep last night :( Knot-like pain in my stomach this morning which lasted all day. 2nd day on a new project where I wanted to shine... i didn't shine very brightly. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. Half an hour for lunch which was spent zipping over to another part of town to pick up material for another new project which I somehow mysteriously have to fit in to a 7 day week. No time for much food all day except for a teeny weeny tofu sandwich, a banana and a handful of nuts. Not very much water... too busy to pee:(
    Feel a lot better after my little jaunt however:) Stomach pain gone! Things can only get better!

    oh how I'd love a glass of wine though:mad:

    I want a drink myself after reading that, isn't much a run cant improve though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    I want a drink myself after reading that, isn't much a run cant improve though!

    So true :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Tuesday 14 January

    5 miles at 10:09 min/mile


    Nice easy one after a long hard day.

    Day 4 of no drinking! Over the 3 day hump! Tonight is definitely easier:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,069 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Tuesday 14 January

    5 miles at 10:09 min/mile


    Nice easy one after a long hard day.

    Day 4 of no drinking! Over the 3 day hump! Tonight is definitely easier:)

    /must not make joke
    /must not make joke
    /must not make joke

    (I'm well aware this says more about my dirty mind than anything else) :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    /must not make joke
    /must not make joke
    /must not make joke

    (I'm well aware this says more about my dirty mind than anything else) :)

    :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Wednesday 15 January

    Initially was supposed to do my hill sprint session today but legs a bit achey so moving things around. Rest day today and hill sprints tomorrow and might move lsr to Sunday depending on how the legs are after tomorrow. I've been adding hills to a lot of my easy/general aerobic runs so maybe this is contributing to the slight muscle soreness.

    I hate rest days :( so was looking for any excuse to go out for a little jog and I found one:D Fantastic night, would be a shame not to experience the beautiful clear sightings of the moon and Jupiter. I made a deal with myself that I'd allow myself to run on my rest day if I did it easier than easy or recovery pace. Stuck to the plan and I must say the legs feel great after it, the achiness (sp?) has gone.
    3 miles at 11.30 min/mile


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Thursday 16 January

    1 min hill sprints x 8 with 2 mins recovery. Week 2


    Looking forward to getting out for this all day as I was emotionally very drained from a funeral this morning. Watching big strapping men sobbing uncontrollably is a very sobering experience.

    Last night's run I was under the moon and tonight I was over it after my session:D (it doesn't take much to make me happy:D:D)

    Last week was my first hill sprint session and it all went wrong but I did put in the effort but it was on trail and it was way too steep for me to get into any kind of rhythm.
    Found a nice hill for tonight courtesy of KU. Home Farm Road, stretch where the football pitches are. Last week's paces varied from 9:30 min/mile to 11:15min/mile so all over the shop :rolleyes:

    Tonight was a different ball-game altogether. Reps were (didn't look at the watch at all, just ran at what felt like 80% effort)
    8:24, 8:12, 8:22, 8:03, 7:56, 8:10, 8:52 (didn't stop the watch on time for the last one) (thought I had done 8 but when I checked the stats when I got back it was only 7:o) All were about 1:05mins.
    I felt very relaxed and really concentrated on my form when running and I was working hard. I whizzed passed 2 men jogging up the hill so that was the highlight of the night as That NEVER happens:) Could have done another couple so I guess that's a good sign but maybe the hill just wasn't steep enough:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Friday 17 January
    4.29 miles at 11min/mile


    Felt I should do a recovery run after yesterday's session even though my legs felt perfect and didn't feel the "need" to do a recovery run but I guess people do them for a reason! I think that hill yesterday wasn't steep enough. Down to the Furry Glen with me on Wednesday ;)

    If I can make it to tomorrow morning then I'll be off the booze for ONE WHOLE week! I'd love to celebrate with a bottle glass of wine but I won't :) I hope.. Sleep has been a disaster all week despite the abstinence which is a shame as I thought it'd improve. Keep waking at like 1.30 am and awake for bloody hours:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Really enjoying tonight's beers but I'm thinking that a nice bottle of Côte du rhone might compliment the pate and crackers a bit better.....

    Whoops wrong thread, my bad




    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Could have done another couple so I guess that's a good sign but maybe the hill just wasn't steep enough:confused:

    Good session onotsoslo,

    Don't go changing it drastically just yet!!
    As my wife keeps telling me 'just cos it didn't hurt, doesn't mean it wasn't any good' :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Really enjoying tonight's beers but I'm thinking that a nice bottle of Côte du rhone might compliment the pate and crackers a bit better.....

    Whoops wrong thread, my bad




    :cool:

    Enjoy that hangover! Meanwhile, I'll wake up full of the joys of spring! I wish:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    As my wife keeps telling me 'just cos it didn't hurt, doesn't mean it wasn't any good' :pac:

    :eek:
    TMI!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    Ososlo wrote: »
    :eek:
    TMI!!!!!!!
    My thoughts exactly, this forum is like watching Doctor Phil sometimes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    My thoughts exactly, this forum is like watching Doctor Phil sometimes!

    Anybody else notice that AMK is always at the centre of it?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Gavlor is never too far away either ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Gavlor is never too far away either ;)

    Weeelllllll if we're still talking about this:

    "As my wife keeps telling me 'just cos it didn't hurt, doesn't mean it wasn't any good"


    :D

    Too far?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Saturday 18 January

    am
    3.25 miles at 10:21 min/mile
    Lovely run in local park seeking out the puddles for a good old splash about! Very busy stressful work day from home doing very detailed work at my desk so neck was a bit sore but felt a lot better after this run. I always feel running helps loosen it out.
    pm
    3 miles at 9:13min/mile

    Bursting to get out again and away from my work. While I love what I do, it really helps the head to get away from it and return with a fresh perspective. First mile around 10min/mile and it felt very easy so picked it up a tiny bit for the second mile and another notch for the 3rd mile. I was running my 5k-10k pace for a lot of this last mile and it really didn't feel that hard at all. I was working a bit but not anywhere near all-out effort. I knew this was a bit of a naughty run as I have my lsr tomorrow and shouldn't be running hard the day before it but hey, you only live once and sometimes it's good to throw caution to the wind and live life on the edge:p
    I'll take the lsr extra easy tomorrow if I feel any after-effects.
    Extra foam-rolling when I got home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Sunday 19 January
    10.22 miles at 10:44 min/mile

    Woke early and was so excited about going on my longer run I couldn't get back to sleep. Unfortunately I have a lot of work on today so couldn't afford the time to go to the PP so had to stay local and didn't have the time for much more than 1.5 hrs.

    Ignored the watch and set out with "easy effort" in mind and ran by feel. Legs felt fine after the faster paced run last night but decided to error on the side of caution.
    Happy enjoyable run, perfect running weather.
    Saw this elderly gentleman across the road at one point in regular clothes, probably his Sunday best, polished shoes and all that. He was 75 if he was a day. Rotund man, a good few stone overweight. I see a jogger pass him and then I saw him look around him to see if anyone was looking (he didn't see me) and then he broke into a little trot for about 10 seconds. He stopped for a walk break and then started jogging again (carefully looking around him each time to see if he was being watched) he repeated this 4 times! I lost sight of him then.
    Whatever he's doing, whether he's influenced by Operation Transformation - whatever his motivation, I think it's fantastic that he's making an effort (probably a huge effort for him) and I really hope that he continues to do this regularly. Never too late to turn your life around eh?
    I included a few hills on the way back as January is supposed to be all about hills for me.

    That makes 39 miles for the week and everything feels good. Reading back on my log since I started it, I sound like a super annoyingly happy person and the kind of person my former drinking, smoking partying self would have loathed. Oh how I've changed :D Day 9 no drinking. Only 2 decent night's sleep out of the last 7 and a few nights of only 2 and 3 hours:rolleyes:. Hope that improves this week as I'm heading in to another busy week work-wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Sunday 19 January
    10.22 miles at 10:44 min/mile

    Woke early and was so excited about going on my longer run I couldn't get back to sleep. Unfortunately I have a lot of work on today so couldn't afford the time to go to the PP so had to stay local and didn't have the time for much more than 1.5 hrs.

    Ignored the watch and set out with "easy effort" in mind and ran by feel. Legs felt fine after the faster paced run last night but decided to error on the side of caution.
    Happy enjoyable run, perfect running weather.
    Saw this elderly gentleman across the road at one point in regular clothes, probably his Sunday best, polished shoes and all that. He was 75 if he was a day. Rotund man, a good few stone overweight. I see a jogger pass him and then I saw him look around him to see if anyone was looking (he didn't see me) and then he broke into a little trot for about 10 seconds. He stopped for a walk break and then started jogging again (carefully looking around him each time to see if he was being watched) he repeated this 4 times! I lost sight of him then.
    Whatever he's doing, whether he's influenced by Operation Transformation - whatever his motivation, I think it's fantastic that he's making an effort (probably a huge effort for him) and I really hope that he continues to do this regularly. Never too late to turn your life around eh?
    I included a few hills on the way back as January is supposed to be all about hills for me.

    That makes 39 miles for the week and everything feels good. Reading back on my log since I started it, I sound like a super annoyingly happy person and the kind of person my former drinking, smoking partying self would have loathed. Oh how I've changed :D Day 9 no drinking. Only 2 decent night's sleep out of the last 7 and a few nights of only 2 and 3 hours:rolleyes:. Hope that improves this week as I'm heading in to another busy week work-wise.
    Fair play to you on the no drinking, hard going at the weekends. That sleep problem is a dose, have you tried much to help, regular time for bed and waking? no tv before bed? Remedies from health shop? Even a short course of sleeping tablets from doctor to try and establish a sleep pattern. Sleep deprivation is awful, I could sleep in a bucket but when the kids were babies and I was up several times of night I felt like a zombie the whole time. I don't know how you are managing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    Fair play to you on the no drinking, hard going at the weekends. That sleep problem is a dose, have you tried much to help, regular time for bed and waking? no tv before bed? Remedies from health shop? Even a short course of sleeping tablets from doctor to try and establish a sleep pattern. Sleep deprivation is awful, I could sleep in a bucket but when the kids were babies and I was up several times of night I felt like a zombie the whole time. I don't know how you are managing.

    I've had the problem since I was 8:( and the family GP put me on sleeping tablets as it was such a problem for me. I have bags under my eyes in all the photos of me when I was a kid. It's a deep-rooted issue obviously:eek:
    It's a life-long battle and yes I've tried everything. I was on sleeping tablets for years and was able to give them up as running had improved it so much up until fairly recently. Back to square one now though. The more I think about it the worse it gets:( I've tried everything you can imagine. Running out of ideas. Might try the pills again. Wouldn't waste my time with the natural "remedies" again to be honest. Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Have you tried eating a banana a couple of hours before you go to bed? Works a treat for my 11 year old. Also, if you hit the chlorella and spirulina tablets (H&B) you might find, as well as many other benefits, that the nutrients in the tabs trigger the necessary reactions to produce melatonin etc. Another great one is Maca Powder: it's an adaptogen and has many cheeky little benefits, one of which may help you sleep. But be careful as Maca powder does other wonderful things that might keep you awake all night - it really does! Good run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Tea Tree


    I hear you on the sleep thing and I've been like that since I was a teenager too.My father wa the same (still is). Worst is if there's one really bad night it's highly likely that 3 or 4 more will follow :( I did wonder if that was why I always seemed to need more recovery from long runs than others and was slow to progress. I never tried any medication but did try all the natural remedies. Valerian helped temporarily but oh the dreams......! exercise (running or otherwise) does help but more so if early in the day. Late exercise has the opposite effect sometimes.

    Strangely over the past 2 months or so my sleep has improved greatly. not perfect but noticebly better. I have no idea what has changed!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Stazza wrote: »
    Have you tried eating a banana a couple of hours before you go to bed? Works a treat for my 11 year old. Also, if you hit the chlorella and spirulina tablets (H&B) you might find, as well as many other benefits, that the nutrients in the tabs trigger the necessary reactions to produce melatonin etc. Another great one is Maca Powder: it's an adaptogen and has many cheeky little benefits, one of which may help you sleep. But be careful as Maca powder does other wonderful things that might keep you awake all night - it really does! Good run.

    Usually eat my fruit in the morning but that's an easy thing to try, sure can't do any harm anyways.
    I took spirulina in powder form for a while but god is that stuff vile. Made by the devil's hands for sure:pac: Didn't know it came in tab form so can try that again. Never tried Maca Powder but definitely gonna give that one a go as need to find out about those "wonderful things" that it might do to me! Should I be alone?:D:D Sounds like it'd beat tossing and turning for hours on end!
    Appreciate that thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Tea Tree wrote: »
    I hear you on the sleep thing and I've been like that since I was a teenager too.My father wa the same (still is). Worst is if there's one really bad night it's highly likely that 3 or 4 more will follow :( I did wonder if that was why I always seemed to need more recovery from long runs than others and was slow to progress. I never tried any medication but did try all the natural remedies. Valerian helped temporarily but oh the dreams......! exercise (running or otherwise) does help but more so if early in the day. Late exercise has the opposite effect sometimes.

    Strangely over the past 2 months or so my sleep has improved greatly. not perfect but noticebly better. I have no idea what has changed!

    Yeah it seems to come in bouts for me too. It's always particularly bad when I HAVE to get up the next morning and when I'm particularly busy. Just when I need some decent kip my body always seems to let me down.
    Good to hear yours has improved. I never have a problem getting to sleep, it's always waking up and not being able to get back. I went through months and months of waking up at "4 in the morning" (and that Leonard Cohen song would go around and around in my head all night long...) but these days it's waking at 1.30/2 and being awake until 6/6.30 and alarm goes off at 7:30:mad:
    Cheers and lots of sweet dreams:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Usually eat my fruit in the morning but that's an easy thing to try, sure can't do any harm anyways.
    I took spirulina in powder form for a while but god is that stuff vile. Made by the devil's hands for sure:pac: Didn't know it came in tab form so can try that again. Never tried Maca Powder but definitely gonna give that one a go as need to find out about those "wonderful things" that it might do to me! Should I be alone?:D:D Sounds like it'd beat tossing and turning for hours on end!
    Appreciate that thanks.

    I reckon Stazza has been on the Maca powder himself judging by his log today:D Go on give it a try...... and report back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    I reckon Stazza has been on the Maca powder himself judging by his log today:D Go on give it a try...... and report back

    Now we know the secret:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    I reckon Stazza has been on the Maca powder himself judging by his log today:D Go on give it a try...... and report back

    I take Maca Powder everyday for 3 weeks then a week off. Every lunch time without fail with a number of other goodies (in a homemade bar) that I will reveal - in good time. One thing I can say with authority, Maca Powder does what it claims.

    Spirulina and chlorella are disgusting but in tab form - not a bother.


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