Broadchurch ITV/TV3 [** Spoilers **]

sashafierce

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don't know. all I know is that it must have been dark.

bottlebrush

glasso wrote: »

don't know. all I know is that it must have been dark.

and a baseball bat is missing

mrsdewinter

Gerard from Peep Show was a surprise. It's true his character was a creep in Peep Show but he's disturbingly so in Broadchurch.
This is getting to be a habit with me: 2 weeks ago, I refused to believe Trish's ex was Charlie Higson until the credits rolled. Tonight I had to go to Google to find out who the convicted rapist was.
Satisfying enough episode. The set-piece football match was a bit cringey, to be honest - but the twist re the DNA test was quite good. And the finale raised the stakes a bit further, so I'm happily looking forward to next week.

sashafierce

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ThunbergsAreGo

I think the video they have will be connected to it alright

Harry Angstrom

I can't believe it's going to be Gerard from Peep Show. He's too obvious, and if it does happen to be him then it will be a major cop out from the writer because it would exonerate everybody at the party, and the investigation into that side of things will have been completely pointless - although he might have something to do with the attack on the woman who appeared at the police station in last night's final scene.

NinetyForNone

Is Miller trying to get attacked with her late night walking in dark paths?

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small town girl

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Pretty off the wall I know but I think her friend who's birthday it was was responsible (either on her own with prosthetic or in conjunction with a guy)

languagenerd

small town girl wrote: »

Pretty off the wall I know but I think her friend who's birthday it was was responsible (either on her own with prosthetic or in conjunction with a guy)

I thought "but what if it's a woman?!" the first week when they were listing all the men at the party. Could well be her with the baseball bat, because she found out about Trish & her husband. The condom wrapper at the scene matched a box in their car, but if it wasn't him...Did she do it with the intention of framing him?

It better not be Miller's son because it can't be her family again! I do think the two boys were watching a video of the attack last week. But then Chloe Latimer said something happened to Hardy's daughter this week, so that vid could have been that too.

So many red herrings.

sashafierce

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Basq

Far too many red herrings this year!
As soon as they revealed it just so happens a rapist has moved into the town.. I mean c'mon!

Birdsong

Just catching up now, excellent episode on Monday, but what's the video you guys are talking about. Did I miss something

languagenerd

Birdsong wrote: »

Just catching up now, excellent episode on Monday, but what's the video you guys are talking about. Did I miss something

In last week's episode, Tom Miller stole his phone back from his mother's room and showed his friend a video on it. We didn't actually see the video, just the two boys standing looking at the phone with a kind of shocked expression.

I think we were meant to think it was a video of Trish's attack (given that the boys were caught with porn before), but it could have been some bullying of Hardy's daughter either.

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cocoman

What's on the ex's laptop that he wants deleted? Is he involved in sharing vids with the young lads? It's good. I presume we'll see a return of killer Joe to set up a fourth series.

Basq

cocoman wrote: »

I presume we'll see a return of killer Joe to set up a fourth series.

With Chris Chibnall taking over Doctor Who, I think this will be it.

NinetyForNone

cocoman wrote: »

What's on the ex's laptop that he wants deleted?

I assume it a Trojan/backdoor allowing access to laptop.

Birdsong

languagenerd wrote:

In last week's episode, Tom Miller stole his phone back from his mother's room and showed his friend a video on it. We didn't actually see the video, just the two boys standing looking at the phone with a kind of shocked expression.

Never picked up on that, thank you.

Love Broadchurch, one of the best TV shows at the moment.

cocoman

I'm none the wiser after that

Any ideas how many episodes in this series?

gmisk

cocoman wrote: »

I'm none the wiser after that

Any ideas how many episodes in this series?

I think 8, so only 5 more to go.
Honestly there a re so many suspects at this stage...it surely has to be 2 or more people involved....

languagenerd

Oh I thought there were only 6 - quite relieved that wasn't the penultimate one last night so! Still, I thought we'd be reducing the suspect pool now rather than adding an entire sports team to the mix... I still think Cath has something to do with it but who knows at this stage? Maybe it's the entire bloody sports team involved and the series of previous rapes are all by different players :rolleyes:

Also. Joe effing Miller. Agh.

flipsake

Is there any chance the vicar or Mark Latimer could be involved? They're the only 2 blokes who haven't been suspects... yet.
It's definitely redeemed itself in this series.

mrsdewinter

flipsake wrote: »

Is there any chance the vicar or Mark Latimer could be involved? They're the only 2 blokes who haven't been suspects... yet.
It's definitely redeemed itself in this series.

That vicar's been bugging me since Series 1. The beard only makes things worse. To take away surface issues, I thought it odd that he was so disappointed when Beth said Trish wasn't interested in taking her problem to him/religion. Fairly lacking in grace for a clergyman, I thought. But maybe I just can't get past the beard.

Thundercats Ho

His character is better this year imo.
He seems to be experiencing a crisis of faith. It's not clear whether that's in god or the congregation, but he's made reference to how people come to church to ask God for help when things go wrong, then abandon it when things get back to normal.
He felt he had purpose before, and now he's a bit lost, and is even looking to council people in a secular way. he's mentioned Beth and the work she does in helping people.
His frustrations are showing in how he reacted to Mark, when he said he'd found Joe.

It's actual character development, rather than the usual broadchurch format, where everyone's a suspect, then bam, the only person you didn't suspect is the perpetrator.

jojofizzio

languagenerd wrote: »

Oh I thought there were only 6 - quite relieved that wasn't the penultimate one last night so! Still, I thought we'd be reducing the suspect pool now rather than adding an entire sports team to the mix... I still think Cath has something to do with it but who knows at this stage? Maybe it's the entire bloody sports team involved and the series of previous rapes are all by different players :rolleyes:

Also. Joe effing Miller. Agh.

I read that last bit in a Mark Latimer accent(pirate-esquel/local to that area):D

mrsdewinter

Well, that was underwhelming. It really feels like the writers are stretching the material beyond its limit to expand the story to 7 episodes. Joe Miller's contribution brought nothing to the table and then a key figure from the first series had to - apparently - lay down his life to give this week's episode the emotional punch the main plot couldn't deliver.

Birdsong

mrsdewinter wrote:

Well, that was underwhelming. It really feels like the writers are stretching the material beyond its limit to expand the story to 7 episodes. Joe Miller's contribution brought nothing to the table and then a key figure from the first series had to - apparently - lay down his life to give this week's episode the emotional punch the main plot couldn't deliver.

Would agree with you, the whole Mark and Joe scenes did nothing for the story at all. I couldn't have cared less if Mark had killed Joe. Better off leaving the legacy story out of it and doing 6 good episodes

Basq

Loved the fact that Mark spotted Joe last week, and kept his distance... obviously building up to a standoff this week.
But then it shows Mark waking up in his van outside of Joe's work, and he gets out of the van to reveal the massive "MARK LATTIMER PLUMBING" on the side of the van!
Inconspicuous or wha?!

haven't watched this since the second episode of this season - is it actually worth the time to watch since?

OldRio

glasso wrote: »

haven't watched this since the second episode of this season - is it actually worth the time to watch since?

IMHO.. No.

I wish I hadn't invested my time.

Fred Swanson

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cocoman

Fred Swanson wrote: »

How many more weeks of this are there?

Think it's 2.

ncmc

Birdsong wrote: »

Would agree with you, the whole Mark and Joe scenes did nothing for the story at all. I couldn't have cared less if Mark had killed Joe. Better off leaving the legacy story out of it and doing 6 good episodes

I disagree, I think having the Danny story from the first series showed the long lasting effect of bereavement and the different way it affects people. Even though the story is finished in the cops eyes, it showed what the family had to live with and how it eventually destroyed them. It was interesting that Beth, who you think would have struggled the most after watching the first two series, was more able to move on and get on with life than Mark. I thought the last scene and the scene with Mark playing the computer game with Danny was incredibly sad and moving.

The only legacy characters I have an issue with are the priest and the reporter. Especially the reporter, it looked like she would have a big part in the story, but she hasn't really been in it since episode one or two? Unless she makes a major discovery that helps break the case showing how important local papers are blah, blah, blah. But really that whole story was unnecessary.

glasso wrote: »

haven't watched this since the second episode of this season - is it actually worth the time to watch since?

I've really enjoyed this season, a massive improvement from season two. Yes, it is the usual Broadchurch fare of multiple suspects and red herrings, but as a procecedural cop show I still think it's one of the better ones.

ncmc

ncmc wrote: »

I've really enjoyed this season, a massive improvement from season two. Yes, it is the usual Broadchurch fare of multiple suspects and red herrings, but as a procecedural cop show I still think it's one of the better ones.

in fairness 10 episodes of bosco would be better than season 2.

pickarooney

ncmc wrote: »

I disagree, I think having the Danny story from the first series showed the long lasting effect of bereavement and the different way it affects people. Even though the story is finished in the cops eyes, it showed what the family had to live with and how it eventually destroyed them. It was interesting that Beth, who you think would have struggled the most after watching the first two series, was more able to move on and get on with life than Mark. I thought the last scene and the scene with Mark playing the computer game with Danny was incredibly sad and moving.

The only legacy characters I have an issue with are the priest and the reporter. Especially the reporter, it looked like she would have a big part in the story, but she hasn't really been in it since episode one or two? Unless she makes a major discovery that helps break the case showing how important local papers are blah, blah, blah. But really that whole story was unnecessary.


I've really enjoyed this season, a massive improvement from season two. Yes, it is the usual Broadchurch fare of multiple suspects and red herrings, but as a procecedural cop show I still think it's one of the better ones.

Broadchurch is not a procedural drama. There isn't a new case each week.

Snoopy1

I was enjoying this series until mark did something so selfish. Wish him and that storyline with joe wasnt in this series

languagenerd

I've just read a Guardian review that suggests we're meant to start thinking that Joe Miller didn't actually kill Danny and Mark was somehow involved and they'd all repressed their memories of that night and then something Joe said now has jogged Mark's memory... What?

I didn't get that vibe at all? I thought Mark's state of mind was more down to the fact that he'd been fixated on finding Joe and, when he finally did, he realised that punishing Joe wouldn't help him get over Danny after all.

I'll actually be furious if they suddenly say Joe's not the murderer.

Snoopy1

languagenerd wrote: »

I've just read a Guardian review that suggests we're meant to start thinking that Joe Miller didn't actually kill Danny and Mark was somehow involved and they'd all repressed their memories of that night and then something Joe said now has jogged Mark's memory... What?

I didn't get that vibe at all? I thought Mark's state of mind was more down to the fact that he'd been fixated on finding Joe and, when he finally did, he realised that punishing Joe wouldn't help him get over Danny after all.

I'll actually be furious if they suddenly say Joe's not the murderer.

What?? Mind goes into overdrive

ncmc

languagenerd wrote: »

I've just read a Guardian review that suggests we're meant to start thinking that Joe Miller didn't actually kill Danny and Mark was somehow involved and they'd all repressed their memories of that night and then something Joe said now has jogged Mark's memory... What?

I didn't get that vibe at all? I thought Mark's state of mind was more down to the fact that he'd been fixated on finding Joe and, when he finally did, he realised that punishing Joe wouldn't help him get over Danny after all.

I'll actually be furious if they suddenly say Joe's not the murderer.

That's just daft, if they go down that route then they will have totally jumped the shark. I think it's more simple than that, Mark thought that finding Joe and dealing his own justice might help get closure over Danny. In reality, he wasn't able to harm Joe and he wasn't able to get any closure. He saw his life as being full of grief and without his family and just wasn't able to take it any more. I suppose he felt a certain amount of guilt too, if he had paid more attention, noticed that Joe was grooming Danny, noticed that something was the matter etc etc. Remember he was having an affair at the time, so that added to his guilt that he had let down his family. It was just all too much to deal with.

languagenerd

Are we finally narrowing down the suspects with one week to go? I think it's probably two or more of them in cahoots at this stage. Jim Atwood and Lucas the taxi driver - one films the other? Did Lucas's stepson play on the football team with those socks?

But it's like some characters did a total about-face in tonight's episode - Cath and Leo both seemed really guilty/hiding something before, but not tonight.

skankkuvhima

All the men and boys of Broadchurch appear to be scumbags (except perhaps the vicar). Are any of them decent?

Mike Litoris

I'm really enjoying this season. Like Season one it's all about the red herrings without making a gobshíte out of you like some shows.

I've honestly no idea but I'm going with the husband. Seems the least likely of the main suspects. God Dammit!

ncmc

I think it was a bit of a cop out that Mark survived to be honest. I thought he had jumped from the cliffs and just imagined being in the boat with Danny and drifting away. Obviously Danny being there was imagined, but him just stepping out of the boat was a bit daft. It was so well shot and moving last week and then this week he's grand and out of hospital the same day.

Again, the vicar and Maggie were superfluous characters. I get that they want to keep some link with the first two series, but their characters serve no purpose.

I thought the bit with Cath turning Jim in was good this week, it showed a nicer side to her character. I honestly don't have a clue who the rapist is, I think Jim is too obvious at the moment. Maybe Ian? Unless they throw a total curve ball and it's the vicar :pac:

deisemum

Not long to go now. I hope it has a good ending.

small town girl

deisemum wrote: »

Not long to go now. I hope it has a good ending.

Read a couple of articles over the weekend where the director was quoted as being very emotional about the ending of this final ever episode. I'm guessing/hoping that the series goes out with a bang

Lisha

The guy playing Mark is a great actor. Can do controlled genuine emotion very well and not in an over the top way.

Basq

Bleh.. bit of a damp squib of an ending!

Poor show hasn't had a solid finale since it's first year.

I'll miss Hardy and Miller, but not the poor writing!

Patty O Furniture

Basq wrote: »

Bleh.. bit of a damp squib of an ending!

Poor show hasn't had a solid finale since it's first year.

I'll miss Hardy and Miller, but not the poor writing!

Maybe Clive's another red herring?

I'll wait til the end, but I hope Chris Chibnall has better luck with Dr Who

Basq

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

I'll wait til the end, but I hope Chris Chibnall has better luck with Dr Who

That was the end ..