Manchester United vs Spurs 5.30

Donnielighto

BT Sport 1


Utd take on Spurs in game both will be keen to win and get the new year off to a good start. Utd have struggled against top half teams this season but are on a decent win streak at the moment.


United have got their season back on track after winning their last six games in all competitions.

Two victories over the festive period over Hull City and Norwich City have lifted David Moyes' men up to sixth spot, eight points behind leaders Arsenal.

The Red Devils will be seeking to keep pressure on the sides above them as they look to mount a title challenge in the New Year.

Tottenham are level on points with United as they have bounced back from the sacking of Andre Villas-Boas with seven points from their last three games.

New boss Tim Sherwood has gone with a more attacking line-up since replacing Villas-Boas and he has been rewarded with victories over Southampton and Stoke as well as a draw against West Brom.

Tottenham's victory at Old Trafford last season was their first in 21 Premier League attempts and in the earlier fixture this season between the two sides at White Hart Lane honours were even after a 2-2 draw.

davycc

COYS..gonna be a belter of a game can see it finish 2-2 again.:cool:

Howard Webb doing ref so will give his beloved MANU a peno or 3:mad:

irishfeen

Jaysus this one I am both nervous and excited about .... My heart says United but my head says a very hard fought draw.

Utd by at least 2

kryogen

davycc wrote: »

COYS..gonna be a belter of a game can see it finish 2-2 again.:cool:

Howard Webb doing ref so will give his beloved MANU a peno or 3:mad:

You do have to wonder whether people who spout this **** actually ever watch a game of football that Webb referees involving United

A joke of a ref

kryogen

rarnes1 wrote: »

Utd by at least 2

Out you get crow!

I can see us getting torn apart today actually, hope I'm wrong, but its going to take a big improvement in performance to beat Spurs today. If Rooney is out we are in serious trouble, regardless he isn't going to be 100% even if they do play him so not sure how that will work out

bad2dabone

always an interesting game, i think united will win it though. Big game for both teams competing for european competition next season.

irishfeen

kryogen wrote: »

Out you get crow!

I can see us getting torn apart today actually, hope I'm wrong, but its going to take a big improvement in performance to beat Spurs today. If Rooney is out we are in serious trouble, regardless he isn't going to be 100% even if they do play him so not sure how that will work out

Remember the Arsenal game... a performance like we saw that day is possible - I hope :pac:

Amirani

I think United. I'm in no way convinced by Sherwood yet, and this is his biggest test to date.

kryogen

irishfeen wrote: »

Remember the Arsenal game... a performance like we saw that day is possible - I hope :pac:

Maybe

No RVP for sure, no Rooney probably, Chicha woefully out of form and Welbeck to basically carry the attack doesn't inspire me with too much confidence.

Really a game where we could use Kagawa playing to his ability in behind Welbeck with Young continuing his good work and Januzaj having some impact too.

The midfield, hopefully Carrick will start to improve the more minutes he is getting under his belt, as for a partner, who knows, Anderson?

Could be his year you know

beno619

kryogen wrote: »

Out you get crow!

I can see us getting torn apart today actually, hope I'm wrong, but its going to take a big improvement in performance to beat Spurs today

I think we have a better chance against Sherwoods spurs than AVB's, If they play 2 in midfield I would be confident.

PhlegmyMoses

If Rooney plays, I'm confident. If he doesn't, I'm worried.

I reckon he could play though. I'd say not training yesterday was a precaution

MagicIRL

United have to win. This is the first real challenge of a "top" team since the 6-win streak over Christmas and we really need to continue that form to show the top half of the table that we're coming for them. 2-1 United.

kryogen

beno619 wrote: »

I think we have a better chance against Sherwoods spurs than AVB's, If they play 2 in midfield I would be confident.

Depends on who they play in midfield I agree, but Adebayor is in his honeymoon period and can cause any defence trouble when he is like that. Cutting off the supply to him will be important and with Evra playing like he is already out the door I dunno if we are going to be stopping Lennon that much.

Who is gonna play right back also? Smalling again I suppose, and while he is a very good defender he isn't a full back.

Donnielighto

United by 4

irishfeen

kryogen wrote: »

Maybe

No RVP for sure, no Rooney probably, Chicha woefully out of form and Welbeck to basically carry the attack doesn't inspire me with too much confidence.

Really a game where we could use Kagawa playing to his ability in behind Welbeck with Young continuing his good work and Januzaj having some impact too.

The midfield, hopefully Carrick will start to improve the more minutes he is getting under his belt, as for a partner, who knows, Anderson?

Could be his year you know

Believe my friend ... believe -

irishfeen

Donnielighto wrote: »

United by 4

Your optimism is infectious :pac:

billymitchell

Any update on Rooney yet?

Donnielighto

irishfeen wrote: »

Your optimism is infectious :pac:

I was going to say 5

beno619

kryogen wrote: »

Depends on who they play in midfield I agree, but Adebayor is in his honeymoon period and can cause any defence trouble when he is like that. Cutting off the supply to him will be important and with Evra playing like he is already out the door I dunno if we are going to be stopping Lennon that much.

Who is gonna play right back also? Smalling again I suppose, and while he is a very good defender he isn't a full back.

Hopefully our three is better than Spurs two. Moyes could do something crazy like play Welback and Hernandez though

Young or Jan will have to put in a big shift to help Evra out.

Not to worried about there left hand side.

davycc

kryogen wrote: »

You do have to wonder whether people who spout this **** actually ever watch a game of football that Webb referees involving United

A joke of a ref

I have watched shedloads of games he has reffed over the years probably a couple hundred at this stage.
He is a great ref overall just has had tendancy to give Manu soft penalties over the years..
I wouldnt be suprised to see him give 1 today as well esp with Spurs lack of "luck" from dodgy refs at OT especially with officals seemingly afraid to give "lesser" teams any big decisions..

smileyj1987

kryogen wrote: »

You do have to wonder whether people who spout this **** actually ever watch a game of football that Webb referees involving United

A joke of a ref

I agree terrible ref for all teams . I'd tell all 22 men to wear extra shin pads !

RobertKK

kryogen wrote: »

Maybe

No RVP for sure, no Rooney probably, Chicha woefully out of form and Welbeck to basically carry the attack doesn't inspire me with too much confidence.

Really a game where we could use Kagawa playing to his ability in behind Welbeck with Young continuing his good work and Januzaj having some impact too.

The midfield, hopefully Carrick will start to improve the more minutes he is getting under his belt, as for a partner, who knows, Anderson?

Could be his year you know

Yeah that is the team I would play too, not sure about Anderson/Cleverley, think Moyes will go Cleverley again.

s8n

I thought this was in BT sport ?

Mars Bar

s8n wrote: »

I thought this was in BT sport ?

It will be on BT Sport.

s8n

Thanks - my mistake, thought it was a 3pm

adox

davycc wrote: »

I have watched shedloads of games he has reffed over the years probably a couple hundred at this stage.
He is a great ref overall just has had tendancy to give Manu soft penalties over the years..
I wouldnt be suprised to see him give 1 today as well esp with Spurs lack of "luck" from dodgy refs at OT especially with officals seemingly afraid to give "lesser" teams any big decisions..

Not this bs again????

davycc

adox wrote: »

Not this bs again????

If it were really BS i wouldnt be ****ting myself at the though of Webb reffing this game and giving manu their customary soft peno or two.

n32

davycc wrote: »

If it were really BS i wouldnt be ****ting myself at the though of Webb reffing this game and giving manu their customary soft peno or two.

Penalty or two???? Would u go away and get real. Webb doesnt favour united and never did. Its just a theory put about by liverpool fans with tin foil hats

Maximus Alexander

United by 30

Pacing Mule

n32 wrote: »

Penalty or two???? Would u go away and get real. Webb doesnt favour united and never did. Its just a theory put about by liverpool fans with tin foil hats

Let's see how that looks at full time.

tupac_healy

Sorry lads under pressure in work so can't check the team news.....

Any RVP or Rooney??

Mars Bar

tupac_healy wrote: »

Sorry lads under pressure in work so can't check the team news.....

Any RVP or Rooney??

No team news yet

RobbieTheRobber

davycc wrote: »

If it were really BS i wouldnt be ****ting myself at the though of Webb reffing this game and giving manu their customary soft peno or two.

Did you know you can get a free tinfoil hat with every purchase of a roll of tin foil, some assembly may be needed.

n32

Pacing Mule wrote: »

Let's see how that looks at full time.

Ok so, you can spend the entire game compiling a dossier of incidents where he favours us and you can present it here afterwards. I m just going to watch the match!

MagicMarker

Rooney starts

Nolars

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 1m
United XI vs @SpursOfficial: De Gea; Smalling, Evans, Vidic, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Januzaj; Rooney, Welbeck

#mufc subs vs @SpursOfficial: Lindegaard, Büttner, Ferdinand, Fletcher, Kagawa, Young, Hernandez

#THFC XI to face #MUFC: Lloris; Walker, Chiriches, Dawson, Rose; Lennon, Capoue, Dembele, Eriksen; Adebayor, Soldado. #SkyFootball

Professional Griefer

Yay for Rooney!

Nolars

looks liek spurs are coming to attack us

Nalz

davycc wrote: »

If it were really BS i wouldnt be ****ting myself at the though of Webb reffing this game and giving manu their customary soft peno or two.

snedge

Rayne Wooney

Really taking the pîss playing Valencia now, Young has been better, is Eriksen such a good winger that we need to play basically 2 RBs to cover him


He'll score a hat trick of something now

Pacing Mule

n32 wrote: »

Ok so, you can spend the entire game compiling a dossier of incidents where he favours us and you can present it here afterwards. I m just going to watch the match!

I won't need to do that. It's usually glaringly obvious what bull**** decisions he gives.

RobbieTheRobber

Pacing Mule wrote: »

I won't need to do that. It's usually glaringly obvious what bull**** decisions he gives.

Absolute nonsense.

I presume because it so obvious you have past examples of Mr Webbs biased decisions?

Pacing Mule

Pacing Mule wrote: »

I won't need to do that. It's usually glaringly obvious what bull**** decisions he gives.

RasTa

Pacing Mule wrote: »

I won't need to do that. It's usually glaringly obvious what bull**** decisions he gives.

Name some so, I remember he disallowed a perfectly good goal we scored against Chelsea because it was unsporting or some crap. Thankfully we scored from the re-take

Pacing Mule

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Absolute nonsense.

I presume because it so obvious you have past examples of Mr Webbs biased decisions?

Biased is not the word I used. Did you think he had a good performance last weekend at the Liverpool Chelsea game ? IMO he had an absolute stinker.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Chance to get within a point of Everton and fifth place. Big game with all others, bar Everton, ahead of us winning. One place at a time, and see if we can get into top four.

davycc

n32 wrote: »

Penalty or two???? Would u go away and get real. Webb doesnt favour united and never did. Its just a theory put about by liverpool fans with tin foil hats

Its not just bitter Liverpool fans , its an established fact & most non manu fans know it all too well sadly. I have met a few sensible Manu fans who agree with me but most try and change the subject or refuse to look at the reality of many of their wins lucky wins.


Im a Spurs fan and at OT for over 20years we somehow fell foul of a combo of badly home biased refs, soft penos that never were.legit goals not given (Mendes from the half way line etc).:)
We bottled a fair few games too but over the course of 20yrs without a win at OT even masterbottlers Spurs couldnt bottle it to that extreme:mad:

The_Kew_Tour

so the match

bucketybuck

davycc wrote: »

Its not just bitter Liverpool fans

True, its bitter Spurs fans also...

Im a Spurs fan and at OT for over 20years we somehow fell foul of a combo of badly home biased refs, soft penos that never were.legit goals not given (Mendes from the half way line etc).:)
We bottled a fair few games too but over the course of 20yrs without a win at OT even masterbottlers Spurs couldnt bottle it to that extreme:mad:

beno619

Multiple clubs have awful records at Old Trafford and it has nothing to do with their performances or United's :rolleyes:

Sure Howerd Webb has been a reffing PL matches for 20 years.