Manchester United vs Spurs 5.30

everdead.ie

As a Sports fan the adage it's better for them to think your curropt rather than incompetent comes to mind when discussing referees same holds true for Webb I don't believe him to be biased but he does make mistakes.

Rayne Wooney

Hopefully we get at least a draw out of this

RobbieTheRobber

davycc wrote: »

Its not just bitter Liverpool fans , its an established fact & most non manu fans know it all too well sadly. I have met a few sensible Manu fans who agree with me but most try and change the subject or refuse to look at the reality of many of their wins lucky wins.


Im a Spurs fan and at OT for over 20years we somehow fell foul of a combo of badly home biased refs, soft penos that never were.legit goals not given (Mendes from the half way line etc).:)
We bottled a fair few games too but over the course of 20yrs without a win at OT even masterbottlers Spurs couldnt bottle it to that extreme:mad:

Not only is webb a man united employee your now saying he is a master of disguise who pretended to be mark clattenburg?

Paul Tergat

Couple of Jim Corrs about today!

edit: and more below. I really wonder what is wrong with some people

michael999999

If Soldado has an off day, utd may sneak a draw today!

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Surely even the most delusional of Man Utd fans can't deny the sheer amount of big refereeing mistakes that have gone in their favour at Old Trafford vs Spurs?

Unearthly

Its easier for people to blame influences outside their control rather than admitting they have been crap and inferior.

I remember Palacios should have been sent off by Webb for an absolutely ridiculous 2 footed tackle that would have broken Ronaldo in half if he connected. This was quickly forgotten when United got the peno which apparently resulted in 5 goals

davycc

Howard webb has only been doing the prem for last 10yrs;) but there were plenty of homer decisions given by a lot of the other refs doing the Manu Spurs game at OT through the entire history of the premier league btw...

Im not bitter about it sure we finally got the 1st win there thanks to AVB & Balealdo & the mighty Clint Dempsey:D

PhlegmyMoses

davycc wrote: »

Its not just bitter Liverpool fans , its an established fact & most non manu fans know it all too well sadly. I have met a few sensible Manu fans who agree with me but most try and change the subject or refuse to look at the reality of many of their wins lucky wins.


Im a Spurs fan and at OT for over 20years we somehow fell foul of a combo of badly home biased refs, soft penos that never were.legit goals not given (Mendes from the half way line etc).:)
We bottled a fair few games too but over the course of 20yrs without a win at OT even masterbottlers Spurs couldnt bottle it to that extreme:mad:

United have awful decisions go against them as regularly as any team. It just rarely matters as they usually win. No real need to have a whinge over a penalty not being given when you win 3-0.

If you believe that there is a conspiracy to keep United at the top amongst the elite group of referees, then I wonder if I could interest you in some magic beans?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

On the match, not so confident. We've been handsomely beaten away in Manchester already this season, and I'm not sure that Sherwood is the most tactically adept manager. Reckon it will be an open, high scoring game with United winning by 2.
Dembele the man to watch out for, he generally seems to play out of his skin at OT.

jamaamaj

Both teams fighting to get up to 6th spot in the league.

Hope to see a high scoring draw with men from both teams sent off,

Thank you.

Rayne Wooney

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I wonder if I could interest you in some magic beans?

How much?

PhlegmyMoses

THFC wrote: »

Surely even the most delusional of Man Utd fans can't deny the sheer amount of big refereeing mistakes that have gone in their favour at Old Trafford vs Spurs?

Again, the United stuff is rarely highlighted because they win. The Palacios tackle being a good example.

You guys are going back 5 and 10 years to find examples. Says a lot, no?

Call Me Jimmy

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

How much?

Ten beans a bean.

PhlegmyMoses

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

How much?

2 chomps and a packet of mega meanies

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Unearthly wrote: »

Its easier for people to blame influences outside their control rather than admitting they have been crap and inferior.

I remember Palacios should have been sent off by Webb for an absolutely ridiculous 2 footed tackle that would have broken Ronaldo in half if he connected. This was quickly forgotten when United got the peno which apparently resulted in 5 goals

No one is saying that poor reffing decisions have cost us the match, but they have happened and on at least 3 occasions have had a big impact on the match.

davycc

Unearthly wrote: »

Its easier for people to blame influences outside their control rather than admitting they have been crap and inferior.

I remember Palacios should have been sent off by Webb for an absolutely ridiculous 2 footed tackle that would have broken Ronaldo in half if he connected. This was quickly forgotten when United got the peno which apparently resulted in 5 goals

I already mentioned that point a few posts up;)
Ill copy this section of it for you:)
"We bottled a fair few games too but over the course of 20yrs without a win at OT even masterbottlers Spurs couldnt bottle it to that extreme"

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Again, the United stuff is rarely highlighted because they win. The Palacios tackle being a good example.

You guys are going back 5 and 10 years to find examples. Says a lot, no?

5 and 10 years? I haven't brought up any examples, settle yourself.

PhlegmyMoses

THFC wrote: »

5 and 10 years? I haven't brought up any examples, settle yourself.

Give us your 3 instances then, as you've mentioned above.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Give us your 3 instances then, as you've mentioned above.

What's the point? I'd rather talk about the match tbh.

GiftofGab

teams announced yet?

Pacing Mule

"PhlegmyMoses wrote:

You guys are going back 5 and 10 years to find examples. Says a lot, no?

I went back less than a week to point out a shockingly poor performance.

PhlegmyMoses

THFC wrote: »

What's the point? I'd rather talk about the match tbh.

Cool. That wasnt the case 10 mins ago, but we can leave it there.

PhlegmyMoses

Pacing Mule wrote: »

I went back less than a week to point out a shockingly poor performance.

Involving United and Spurs? Keep up.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Cool. That wasnt the case 10 mins ago, but we can leave it there.

Cool.

RobbieTheRobber

GiftofGab wrote: »

teams announced yet?

Man Utd: De Gea, Smalling, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Januzaj, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Ferdinand, Lindegaard, Hernandez, Young, Fletcher, Kagawa, Buttner.

Spurs: Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Chiriches, Rose, Lennon, Capoue, Dembele, Eriksen, Adebayor, Soldado. Subs: Lamela, Naughton, Chadli, Friedel, Fryers, Kane, Bentaleb.

Your Airbag

Spurs are more attacking under Sherwood. This will be a a tough one but I fancy us to win with a good performance.

Pacing Mule

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Involving United and Spurs? Keep up.

You're off on your own self absorbed tangent mate.

I never stated that my lack of confidence in him as a match official was solely man utd related. Any point I have made was in general.

Agueroooo

-6 -6

Please.

supersean1999

3-2 utd 10e punt on that

SherlockWatson

Are people actually that moronic that they think referees would intentionally be biased when he's being watched by millions of people, risking his job and death threats from millions if it was ever proved.

People need to chill out and accept refs make mistakes. And stop looking like complete idiots.

Your Airbag

Moyes strikes such an awkward un-natural pose in that manager photo next to the line ups.

bluefinger

`hope they can get a draw but i expect spurs will get battered today.

adox

Utds left is wide open. Walker and Lennon could have a field day.

Worried.

davycc

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Are people actually that moronic that they think referees would intentionally be biased when he's being watched by millions of people, risking his job and death threats from millions if it was ever proved.

People need to chill out and accept refs make mistakes. And stop looking like complete idiots.

Intentionally 50/50 nothing would suprise me with the corruption in the modern game from FIFA & EUFA down through their FA minions:):)

anyway game on COYS:cool:.

Hank Scorpio

good ball there Tom

SherlockWatson

davycc wrote: »

Intentionally 50/50 nothing would suprise me with the corruption in the modern game from FIFA & EUFA down through their FA minions:):)

anyway game on COYS:cool:.

So Fifa and Uefa are fixing games in the PL?


Mother of god.

Johner

Bad ball by Cleverley.

double GG

Cleverley should have done better.

Positive start though.

niallo27

How did Webb get this game after his performance last week, shouldnt he be back in league 2 or something for a week.

GavRedKing

Spurs are dodgy at the back

Lord TSC

Nice to see Welbeck causing problems.

Johner

United will hammer them, awful defending so far from Spurs.

Professey Chin

Good attacking so far!

Your Airbag

Val getting stuck in the midfield. We looked narrow when defending there too esp Smalling, wonder is it a tactic or just a one off

Great start, we look right on it.

double GG

Welbeck could have done better there, thought he could have got a touch past LLoris

jamescd

Draw please

davycc

all manu so far...dawson is such i liability

jimmytwotimes 2013

Quick passing and movement in the opening minutes. An all too rare occurrence so far this season. Hope utd can get early breakthrough

LuckyGent88

Nice positive start from us here.
Just need a goal now