Tim Sherwood

Bodie Doyle

Here we go again

According to Paddy Power these are the favourites:

De Boer
Pochettino
Benitez
MOYES - ffs Levy don't even think about it.

yiddo59

Word is that Timmah is Brighton bound.

SuprSi

Well at least they didn't waste much time. What was the point in giving him an 18 month contract? Even if he had been given a 6 month contract and had done well, it could have been extended. Crazy decision by Levy.

I'm not sure who I want in the hot seat next season but from the list above I think Moyes could be the main one to avoid.

yiddo59

SuprSi wrote: »

Well at least they didn't waste much time. What was the point in giving him an 18 month contract? Even if he had been given a 6 month contract and had done well, it could have been extended. Crazy decision by Levy.

I'm not sure who I want in the hot seat next season but from the list above I think Moyes could be the main one to avoid.

There was a story going round at the time that Sherwood wouldn;t take the job til the end of the season and demanded an 18 month deal.

positivenote

okay, lets never mention his name again in association with the club.
Onwards and upwards, get the new man in as soon as possible.
COYS

mickman

SuprSi wrote: »

Well at least they didn't waste much time. What was the point in giving him an 18 month contract? Even if he had been given a 6 month contract and had done well, it could have been extended. Crazy decision by Levy.

I'm not sure who I want in the hot seat next season but from the list above I think Moyes could be the main one to avoid.

“We agreed an 18-month contract with a break clause at the end of the season and we have now exercised that option.

If he did well then the 18 month contract would have been in play - he didnt do well so they exercised a get out clause after 6 months - no cost to the club

Kiith

The statement also says they are looking for a new head coach. Guess Baldini will be staying in that case?

Sugarlumps

Good luck to him, anyone but Moyes.

golfball37

Thanks for getting us to score goals again Tim, your stint wasn't boring anyway. You were out of your depth but I wish you well in the future.

{Not that he's reading this mind you}

mushykeogh

Van Gaal looks as mad as a box of frogs.

2nd Row Donkey

All quiet on the FDB front. Maybe DL had a word and told him and ajax to button it until it is official.

I was going to post a big long rant about how important the next appointment is but I'd just be rehashing the same thing we have all said for the last 5-6 years...

Still think DL is untouchable. Even if he gets the next appointed wrong it won't make a blind bit of difference.

same ol sh1te

Hotspur Related ‏@HotspurRelated 1h
Daily Mirror report Sherwood was sacked after players told Daniel Levy he goes or we quit. #THFC

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Mirror believe Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Vertonghen and Lloris were willing to quit if Sherwood had stayed on as manager. #THFC

irishmover

Tim Sherwood was a character. I'd have much preferred to see him succeed than not to be honest. Wish him best of luck for the future. He's been around the club for quite a while now and really didn't do a terrible job. He didn't relegate us and didn't finish too much lower than we should have.

I'd hope he doesn't feel bitter towards the club as a few seasons in lower divisions we might be begging to have him back. I'd like to see him have a successful managerial career.

Ormus

irishmover wrote: »

Tim Sherwood was a character. I'd have much preferred to see him succeed than not to be honest. Wish him best of luck for the future. He's been around the club for quite a while now and really didn't do a terrible job. He didn't relegate us and didn't finish too much lower than we should have.

I'd hope he doesn't feel bitter towards the club as a few seasons in lower divisions we might be begging to have him back. I'd like to see him have a successful managerial career.

He is a bit of a character. At times it's refreshing and funny, but at other times it's annoying and embarrassing.

He didn't do a terrible job results wise, coulda been a lot worse.

I wish him the best but very glad he's not manager anymore.

tom1ie

irishmover wrote: »

Tim Sherwood was a character. I'd have much preferred to see him succeed than not to be honest. Wish him best of luck for the future. He's been around the club for quite a while now and really didn't do a terrible job. He didn't relegate us and didn't finish too much lower than we should have.

I'd hope he doesn't feel bitter towards the club as a few seasons in lower divisions we might be begging to have him back. I'd like to see him have a successful managerial career.

Well at least he wasn't too scared to stand up to the players this rumour of senior players saying its either tim or them shows how wrong modern day football is. Seriously though as important sandro is the fact he tweeted what he did undermining someone who was in a supposed position of power sickens me. When we get a new manager and if things don't go to plan what's to stop Sandro, or another senior player,doing the same ****. Really sickening.

yiddo59

Ormus wrote: »

He is a bit of a character. At times it's refreshing and funny, but at other times it's annoying and embarrassing.

He didn't do a terrible job results wise, coulda been a lot worse.

I wish him the best but very glad he's not manager anymore.

Agree. He'd be great to listen and read about if he was at another club.

positivenote

great little piece about tim and the loss to 'real' football his sacking is...
http://www.buckleybracondale.co.uk/the-first-family-of-football-and-why-the-english-hacks-worship-them/

philon

Sherwood & Ferdinand on Skysports1..... liking their interiew and insite into THFC

Glebee

Im starting to miss Tim already after seeing him on the FA cup coverage yesterday..:(

jobeenfitz

Glebee wrote: »

Im starting to miss Tim already after seeing him on the FA cup coverage yesterday..:(

Could be a form of "Stockholm Syndrome" you are suffering from?

same ol sh1te

I have a lot more respect for him after seeing this interview.
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9316143/sherwood-lifts-the-lid-on-spurs-tenure

2nd Row Donkey

Interesting piece.

Sounds like have a bit of a problem with some of the playing squad. Probably no more of a problem then most EPL teams.

Kiith

Certainly seems like it was Sandro, as he was the most obvious omission from the team from that point onwards. As far as i know, it wasn't due to injury.

same ol sh1te

I think it's obvious he was referring to Verts, who got injured then didn't make it back in the team. He's right though, a player has to help a team earn a top 4 place, not give up and wish a transfer to a top 4 club. Tims certainly shown us no disrespect since he left.

mickman

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Interesting piece.

Sounds like have a bit of a problem with some of the playing squad. Probably no more of a problem then most EPL teams.

Sounded ok I thought. He will prob be fine as a mgr in the future but only once he learns to control his rambling

Eamo71

Nothing he said is terribly wrong - the most pertinent point was when you sell someone who scored over 20 goals a season and can probably win you 4-5 games you can't expect to be as successful as you were.
When you think about it Dempsey also scored a few vital goals too that won games. So essentially we lost, let's say, 15 points (conservative). Add that to 69 and we'd be smack bang in the title race. Ifs, buts , maybes. Every club has 'em. Spurs more than most I dare say.

Ormus

mickman wrote: »

Sounded ok I thought. He will prob be fine as a mgr in the future but only once he learns to control his rambling

I honestly don't think he has a future as a manager, not of any note anyway.

Ormus

Eamo71 wrote: »

Nothing he said is terribly wrong - the most pertinent point was when you sell someone who scored over 20 goals a season and can probably win you 4-5 games you can't expect to be as successful as you were.
When you think about it Dempsey also scored a few vital goals too that won games. So essentially we lost, let's say, 15 points (conservative). Add that to 69 and we'd be smack bang in the title race. Ifs, buts , maybes. Every club has 'em. Spurs more than most I dare say.

We only got 72 points last year. You can't just add the number of points you think Bale to our total. It doesn't work like that.

Dempsey was no loss. He was ok and got some important goals, but that doesn't mean we lost the points he won for us last season.

Eamo71

That's a fair point but and you're right to a certain degree but I think with Bale in that team with easily get a minimum of 10 more points. Not just form him scoring but from teams afraid to come onto us and us catching them on the break with his pace and power. I think it's a fair assumption with Bale in that team this year we'd have challenged for the title. And that's Sherwood's point. Not Dempsey's biggest fan but he did pop up at opportune times.

Ormus

Eamo71 wrote: »

That's a fair point but and you're right to a certain degree but I think with Bale in that team with easily get a minimum of 10 more points. Not just form him scoring but from teams afraid to come onto us and us catching them on the break with his pace and power. I think it's a fair assumption with Bale in that team this year we'd have challenged for the title. And that's Sherwood's point. Not Dempsey's biggest fan but he did pop up at opportune times.

But we did have Bale last year and we didn't get 10 more points. Do you mean if we had him AND the players we signed with his transfer fee? Not that they did much.

Ormus

"If the season was to end tomorrow the chairman wouldn't be too happy because we're fifth. The final league position has to meet the expectations of the club otherwise it's 'Goodbye Charlie'. The club need to finish in fourth place. Anything other than that is going to be a disappointment" - Tim Sherwood, January 19th 2014

Sherwood is now saying that 4th was always unrealistic because of losing Bale. And everyone says yeah that makes sense, and assumes that he held this opinion all along. It's hindsight, nothing more.

Ormus

"It was never the brief when I came into the club that we had to finish in fourth place. What was said to me was 'can we make the team a little bit more attractive and score more goals?' and I think I've ticked that box. How on earth did people think we would be title challengers or even make the top four?" Tim Sherwood, May 2014

Martin567

Ormus wrote: »

But we did have Bale last year and we didn't get 10 more points. Do you mean if we had him AND the players we signed with his transfer fee? Not that they did much.

Looking at it another way, if Adebayor had played in 2012/13 as he has played in 2013/14 then we would definitely have qualified for the CL in 2012/13.

It annoys me when reporters say that Sherwood reversed AVB's "mystifying" exclusion of Ade. AVB played him up front for virtually an entire season and he contributed nothing other than strolling around and being outmuscled by smaller opponents.

Ormus

Martin567 wrote: »

Looking at it another way, if Adebayor had played in 2012/13 as he has played in 2013/14 then we would definitely have qualified for the CL in 2012/13.

It annoys me when reporters say that Sherwood reversed AVB's "mystifying" exclusion of Ade. AVB played him up front for virtually an entire season and he contributed nothing other than strolling around and being outmuscled by smaller opponents.

Absolutely, I actually thought AVB gave him too many games, he strolled through them all with a smile, barely broke into a canter.

It was only the following season AVB had finally had enough of him and froze him out.

Then he mysteriously started playing like a man possessed when AVB left.

same ol sh1te

Good article
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/tim-sherwood-world-cup-2014-column-my-emotions-on-the-touchline-with-tottenham-were-real--but-some-managers-are-actors-9569445.html