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Past30Now

corny wrote: »

Yeah probably a dummy team. Makes no sense to move Devereux. Why not just play Cooper at 7.

A Brogan and Kev Mc will probably swap too.

Assuming he does start, pleased for Mickey Fitz.

Delighted to see Jim Gavin taking our "advice" and O'Gara and Cooper starting. Up front O'Gara and Berno will take on their full back line, with Alan and Macker swapping between the half forward line and the link to the two boys up front.

When I heard the team last night I assumed Johnny Cooper would start at 7. However by naming him at 6 Jim Gavin might be taking a long term view. Coops looks like a guy who'll be in that team for the next five plus years. Centre back could be a great slot for him. Nicky D is a fine player, but playing him at centre back limits the value of his pace. I wouldn't be surprised if the backs line out as named. I don't see Kevin Nolan starting this match.

vicwatson

Sorry lads is throw in 6 (rte) or 7pm (sky website?)

SM746

vicwatson wrote: »

Sorry lads is throw in 6 (rte) or 7pm (sky website?)

6pm. It'll be over by 7pm :-)

vicwatson

Fingers crossed :-》

SM746

vicwatson wrote: »

Fingers crossed :-》

Not for a neutral ovserver :-)

vicwatson

Not many in here though, it being the Dublin GAA duscussion thread and all that !!

Moneymaker

I like the look of that team. More pace and more physicality has been brought in which will be very useful indeed.

I think there's a decent chance that team could line out as selected. Cooper definitely has the qualities to be our No.6 for years to come. Can't see Kevin Mc lining out at 11, you'd imagine he'll swap with Alan fairly early on.

O'Gara at 14 seems an obvious and logical choice.

keane2097

Would have thought Devereux matches up better than Cooper with Hughes who is named at wing forward for Monaghan.

DoctaDee

This is the 1st game we'll play without what would be termed traditional match ups. Being "optimistic", the Monaghan forward line will contain maybe 3 in our half - McManus, McGuinness & Hughes with the other 12 behind the ball.

The Dublin back 6 imo have been named (dunno whether they'll start in those positions) because of their adaptability across a number of positions in the back line. Any fix that's needed will be a shuffle of positions rather than replacements. While Hughes is named wing forward I'd imagine ROC will come to meet him inside the 45. I'd guess Monaghan will mark space across 3 lines of 4 men in their own half, the quality and speed of our kick passing will be tested tomorrow particularly from break down play. Best case scenario is to get ahead ahead early and force Monaghan out of their shell.

There seems to be a common perception that this will be the 1st time Dublin will be tested against a blanket defence this year and while certainly there will be a degree of learning tomorrow I don't think I'd be telling stories out of school to say that Dublin have been preparing all year to play against this system.

Before a ball was thrown in this year, if Dublin were to reach an AI they knew their path was being blocked by the Ulster champions and the clarity of the qualifier system this year gave them further insight to their likely opponents. The quality and intensity of the training games of the A's v Killer Bees (as Philly dubbed them) are designed to replicate the likely playing conditions against all playing styles. Without sounding demeaning to others, the blanket defence is an easy concept to coach into a group of players and an alternate Dublin 15 from the existing panel with other lads also brought in has given the team a foothold into the areas that the system can be broken down.

The big imponderable for Monaghan is how they could possibly prepare to the same degree, to replicate the playing style of Dublin in training sessions. I'd suggest at times it looks like Dublin have an extra man/2 man advantage on the field and 13 v 15 games may give them some inkling as to their task.

It'd be confident but not cocksure that Dublin have the answers for tomorrow, I can certainly see a period of when Monaghan will give it a serious rattle. If things go as planned in both games - Dublin are really looking forward to Donegal

Slattsy

Going to miss the game.
To make matters worse, i wont even get to see a minute of it :mad:

DoctaDee

I missed the last 5 mins of last years final and I was in Croker . Pot herbs got the better of me and I ended up behind the Cusack pacing up and down, not helped by the fact I couldn't distinguish between a Mayo roar and a Dublin one

Moneymaker

Slattsy wrote: »

Going to miss the game.
To make matters worse, i wont even get to see a minute of it :mad:

Ouch.

Got a Premium level ticket for tomorrow, unexpected surprise :cool:

I hear they do a mean roast beef.

Slattsy

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ouch.

Got a Premium level ticket for tomorrow, unexpected surprise :cool:

I hear they do a mean roast beef.

You misheard.
They do a lean roast beef.

DoctaDee

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ouch.

Got a Premium level ticket for tomorrow, unexpected surprise :cool:

I hear they do a mean roast beef.

LOL .. we have our own prawn sandwich brigade ! Was only there once for Westmeath/Meath (remember Dessie Dolans last minute miss), on the upside and having no affinity to either I got the beers in ahead of the crowd at HT and a few during the game

ProudDUB

SM746 wrote: »

6pm. It'll be over by 7pm :-)

:D:D

I'm liking the look of that team. I think O'Gara and Andrews (and maybe even Cullen) will see some decent game time. I can see it being a tough, physical game and O'Gara & Andrews are very, very good at winning their own dirty ball.

Moneymaker

DoctaDee wrote: »

LOL .. we have our own prawn sandwich brigade ! Was only there once for Westmeath/Meath (remember Dessie Dolans last minute miss), on the upside and having no affinity to either I got the beers in ahead of the crowd at HT and a few during the game

Ah here :pac:

Missed one match in the last 12 tears, usually in the Hill or lower Cusack.

Let me have a day eating prawn sandwiches :pac:

DoctaDee

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ah here :pac:

Missed one match in the last 12 tears, usually in the Hill or lower Cusack.

Let me have a day eating prawn sandwiches :pac:

LOL.. I'm just afraid we'll lose ya forever to the suits !

Be interesting what you make out of the atmosphere up there ... think there's 6 rows of seats in each section ... I've been in the premium in Aviva and errr it's quiet... oh yeah don't forget the review on the roast beef either :pac:

Oasis_Dublin

Hopefully Monaghan really put it up to us tomorrow. With respect to the other teams in Leinster, we got half a challenge from Laois this year, and that was it. Wexford's best forward was kept out of the game, and Meath didn't show up on the day.

Mayo got a really good test from Cork (and came out the other end), while Kerry really should have been punished by Galway (if they got some confidence, they could definitely be a big contenders). Donegal have already got tests this year, so we need one.

Slattsy

My mole inside the Monaghan camp tells me that MDMA will be targeted for some rough treatment tomorrow.
There's an assumption among the Monaghan management that he's prone to lashing out and they think "they can get to him".

keane2097

Slattsy wrote: »

My mole inside the Monaghan camp tells me that MDMA will be targeted for some rough treatment tomorrow.
There's an assumption among the Monaghan management that he's prone to lashing out and they think "they can get to him".

I would say he has been lucky on a few occasions this year, I seem to recall two or three instances of him throwing a poke after being fouled.

CurryFlavoured

I like the look of that team, much more defensively stable. As much as I rate Cooper, he isn't a corner back, and Mick Fitz is a better man marker than him although he won't drive up the field as well. Cooper should fare better at half back, unsure who'll actually play in the centre but I think Jonny did against Laois earlier (not sure on that one).

All in all the back 6 looks better for me, 2 proper corner backs for once. All we need is a CHB although Nicky Devs been doing great filling in.

corny

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ouch.

Got a Premium level ticket for tomorrow, unexpected surprise :cool:

I hear they do a mean roast beef.

Pints in proper glasses too!

Was there last week for Monaghan and Kildare. Looking down on the peasants in the rain.:D Shoes on the other foot this week i'm afraid. Enjoy.

sfcdub

Probably a cliche at this stage but would the idea be to get McCafferey's fresh legs in in the 2nd half? (Then again, I don't think anyone would be stopping his runs at any point of the game!).

Wouldn't be surprised if O'Gara doesn't start, though I don't see any reason not to. Nearly sure there's been at least 2 games he's been named to start in and didn't. (Mayo in the League was one I think).

copacetic

Slattsy wrote: »

My mole inside the Monaghan camp tells me that MDMA will be targeted for some rough treatment tomorrow.
There's an assumption among the Monaghan management that he's prone to lashing out and they think "they can get to him".

Hardly a surprising approach though, they will target Connolly and Philly too to try and get a reaction and they will target Brogans to see can they shake them up. They are unlikely to target Flynn or O'Gara though.

Either way most teams have been doing the same and they have all been told and told what to do. Slightest hint of a reaction like Connolly had v Meath and he will be subbed off. MDMA that won't happen to but he will have to keep his cool and there are others around to help sort out any troubles in that regard.

ProudDUB

Jazus, good luck to them targeting the Brogans, in the hopes that they lose it. Dunno about Alan, but Bernard has never been sent off, or picked up two yellows in a Champo game.

As for the rest of them (esp MDMA, Phily, EOG & DC) that little kerfuffle against Meath could be the wake up that they all need to be on their guard for anyone trying to start the silly stuff.

Thanks Meath !

copacetic

ProudDUB wrote: »

Jazus, good luck to them targeting the Brogans, in the hopes that they lose it. Dunno about Alan, but Bernard has never been sent off, or picked up two yellows in a Champo game.

As for the rest of them (esp MDMA, Phily, EOG & DC) that little kerfuffle against Meath could be the wake up that they all need to be on their guard for anyone trying to start the silly stuff.

Thanks Meath !

I think you misread. They will target the first group for reaction, the Brogans to shake them up and try and put them off their game.

Connolly was taken off pre the scuffle, and would likely have gone if still on I'd say.

LeoB

Im not overly confident about tomorrow. As has been sated the Monaghan players will have been fed all the press drivel about them not having a chance and P.P having Dublin with 9 point advantage. As we have seen in the past teams written off will often up their game against Dublin. A wet evening, slippery conditions and Marty Duffy!! Thats a fair recipe for something controversial to happen.

Dublin need a right battle tomorrow and I think they will get it but a lot will depend on how Monaghan have recovered this week and how Marty deals with their approach if they target Bernard Brogan, O'Gara or M.D.M.A. They are a very good side and while physical they are very good ball players there also. Right up the middle they are strong and I think are a better side than last year. They have a number of players who can kick scores from distance, Clerkin, Corey, McGuinness, Hughes so they are not quite a one trick team of blanket defence.

What Dublin need more than anything is a big game from Connolly and I think he will deliver. While his shooting the last day was not great he was not bad at all in general play and while he was caught in possession once his passes were generally good. I would like to see Dean Rock come into the game earlier. His big contributions have been coming and scoring but the games are generally won so a good run out would do him good. Cooper back in the side is also a good move. I would like to see Paul Flynn get into the game a bit more as I feel we have not seen the best of him by a long shot.

Donegal beat Monaghan (or some would say Monaghan beat themselves) without getting out of of second or third gear so really we should expect to win fairly comfortably, but only after a right good battle. Saturday could make our season with an improved performance than what we had against Meath.

I think Jimmy McGuinness is eyeing up August 30th also. Donegal look much better when they come out and play and McNeilis has given them another dimension making it 3 big forwards, along with Murphy and McFadden who are good ball winners and excellent finishers. But maybe God will bless Armagh and turn Croke park for 70 minutes

TouchingVirus

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ouch.

Got a Premium level ticket for tomorrow, unexpected surprise :cool:

I hear they do a mean roast beef.

They do! I somehow managed to bagy first two tickets up there last weekend for the Monaghan/Kildare and Meath/Armagh matches.

The views are fantastic, I imagine they are better than the corporate boxes since they're lower. No climbing steps for you, brought up in an elevator from beside the museum if you're on the Cusack side. The beef comes in at 14 quid but for the same price with the regulars you'd be lucky to get a burger, chips and a drink The toilets are much nicer affair with hot water (I know, how first world) and I only noticed this on the way out but there are charge lockers to charge your phone for 30mins for free, you don't even get a non - free option below.

The guaranteed cover is nice, it wont stop you getting sprayed if the wind blows the right way but there's supposed to be a torre trial downpour this evening/tonight and I'm down in 304 F

corny

Good win. Monaghan mentally couldn't compete with the 6 day turn around. Hard to get yourself up for it again so i wouldn't be too harsh on them.

Very interesting watching Dublin handle a proper blanket defence. It seemed numbers and positions were irrelevant, they just committed huge numbers to the attack. Cooper, McMahon, McCarthy basically played as centre forwards and the amount of times they drifted in behind was scary. Could that be the reason the half backs were picked like they were?

Hard to pick out good performers since Monaghan packed it in after the first goal but i thought O' Carroll did really well marking McManus. Also, Dermot Connolly woke up. I thought he might in the latter stages of the championship. He had a good game in all aspects. Followed his man back as diligently as any and worked well in attack. Should have scored another goal though.:p

Was at the Donegal game. They're good at what they do (defending) and they'll inconvenience the Dublin attack but as i see it there's no way they'll score more than Dublin. They'd lots of poor wides, McFadden is a shadow of the player he was and while they're physically strong players they won't match Dublin for speed or athleticism in the final quarter.

I'd be very interested to see what they do against the Dublin kickout. Will they retreat like they did in 2011 or will they force Cluxton to kick it. Although it might leave them more open they really should push up because they can match anyone in the middle of the field. However, I can see them taking the cowardly option and setting the 14 man defence as Cluxton puts the ball on the tee.

bohsboy

Can't wait for it, nothing can compete against that attack, don't care what tactics they come up with. From my many days of heartache watching the dubs, nothing compares to the current team. Gavin has them playing which such discipline, no lining up in front of the hill and all that crap.

Bring them on.

corny

bohsboy wrote: »

Can't wait for it, nothing can compete against that attack, don't care what tactics they come up with. From my many days of heartache watching the dubs, nothing compares to the current team. Gavin has them playing which such discipline, no lining up in front of the hill and all that crap.

Bring them on.

TBF Gilroy deserves a lot of credit for that.

bohsboy

True.

Godge

corny wrote: »

Good win. Monaghan mentally couldn't compete with the 6 day turn around. Hard to get yourself up for it again so i wouldn't be too harsh on them.

Very interesting watching Dublin handle a proper blanket defence. It seemed numbers and positions were irrelevant, they just committed huge numbers to the attack. Cooper, McMahon, McCarthy basically played as centre forwards and the amount of times they drifted in behind was scary. Could that be the reason the half backs were picked like they were?

Hard to pick out good performers since Monaghan packed it in after the first goal but i thought O' Carroll did really well marking McManus. Also, Dermot Connolly woke up. I thought he might in the latter stages of the championship. He had a good game in all aspects. Followed his man back as diligently as any and worked well in attack. Should have scored another goal though.:p

Was at the Donegal game. They're good at what they do (defending) and they'll inconvenience the Dublin attack but as i see it there's no way they'll score more than Dublin. They'd lots of poor wides, McFadden is a shadow of the player he was and while they're physically strong players they won't match Dublin for speed or athleticism in the final quarter.

I'd be very interested to see what they do against the Dublin kickout. Will they retreat like they did in 2011 or will they force Cluxton to kick it. Although it might leave them more open they really should push up because they can match anyone in the middle of the field. However, I can see them taking the cowardly option and setting the 14 man defence as Cluxton puts the ball on the tee.

The Donegal/Armagh match seemed to be at a pace 30-40% slower than Dublin play at.

Connolly's potential is frightening. He could have easily had another 2-3 but because the game was won, he wasn't up for it. All of his best performances have come with the team under pressure or in finals. From the All-Ireland Club final to the league game against Tyrone to the League Final, he came through. He could well be MotM for the last two games.

Moneymaker

Well the beef was good! View was amazing, in 501. Could see everything and from that height you can really appreciate the movement and the level of fitness the lads have. It's frightening. The atomesphere is almost non existent though.

Connolly stepped up today, very pleasing. Bernard kicked 1-7, subs got their usual few scores.

Monaghan did well for 20 minutes, but we simply ran them into the ground. I always felt it was inevitible and was never really concerned tbh.

Can't believe I said Cooper shouldn't be brought back in. He adds so much to the side. He could be our No.6 for years and years.

Donegal will definitely be a stiffer test and we are due an "off day" so we should be wary of them. Keeping their feet on the ground wiill be Gavin's toughest test.

ProudDUB

Moneymaker wrote: »

Well the beef was good! View was amazing, in 501. Could see everything and from that height you can really appreciate the movement and the level of fitness the lads have. It's frightening. The atomesphere is almost non existent though.

Connolly stepped up today, very pleasing. Bernard kicked 1-7, subs got their usual few scores.

Monaghan did well for 20 minutes, but we simply ran them into the ground. I always felt it was inevitible and was never really concerned tbh.
Can't believe I said Cooper shouldn't be brought back in. He adds so much to the side. He could be our No.6 for years and years.

Donegal will definitely be a stiffer test and we are due an "off day" so we should be wary of them. Keeping their feet on the ground wiill be Gavin's toughest test.

I hope you choked on your poxy roast beef. All I had was a punnet of greasy chips and I felt sick for an hour afterwards.

The atmosphere was pretty flat everywhere tbh. Once the second goal went in, that was pretty much it. The Hill was so quiet during the second half, you'd think that we were on the business end of a 17 pt hammering & not the other way around. Weird ! :rolleyes:

Cooper had a bloody brilliant game. I would have given him or Alan the MOTM, but I am still thrilled for Philly that he got it. After all the stick he gets (some of it very unfair imo) he deserved it.

Bernards bouncing the ball off the Monaghan lad was hilarious. He has such a brilliant footballing brain. Am a wee bit worried that the scores from play don't seem to be happening for him.

Bit worried about the period of play before the two goals. 25 minutes is VERY long time to go without a score from play.

Wanted to slap Connolly at times, especially when he effed up that goal chance that was put on a platter for him. His own goal was a peach though.

Other than that, it was a great day out. Was very disappointed in Monaghan over all. Would they have made more of a game of it, if they didn't have such a short break between games? Possibly, but in the mood the lads were in yesterday and with the work rate on display, there was only ever going to be one result imo.

Thought the SKY coverage was ok. It was capable and professional, but also rather bland and offensive. I know we give out about Brolly & Spillane's shenanigans, but you do miss the bit of craic and divilment that you know can break out at any moment.

Slattsy

Just watching a replay of the match now. Didnt get to see anything yesterday.

Have to say, Monaghan looked knackered, so extra time last week def left a mark. Im not going to read too much into the actual winning margin, as its what i'd expected anyway.

Still an awful lot of sloppy wides though, which worries me.

Donegal next, not looking forward to it, gonna be a horrible match to watch. Long range kicking will be a serious focus in training for the next few weeks.

CurryFlavoured

I fully expect the Donegal game to be like the first 25 mins V Monaghan, except even tighter and it will last longer. We'll see something like 2011 but we're much more dynamic now so I can't see us simply lumping ball aimlessly like we did that day. Gavin's too clever. I love the amount of angles our runners come in at, we seem to have 2 or 3 guys making incisive runs every time. It'll be hard pick holes through Donegal but we'll try. More long range shooting needed as well I'd say.

I don't think Donegal have the forwards to hurt us either. Murphy of course can but he's out the field. McFaddens way off form and McBrearty hasn't lived up to the hype, if they had an on form McFadden and Murph inside I'd be a lot more worried. It's hard to see where the scores come from though for Donegal.

Dyr

ProudDUB wrote: »

Bernards bouncing the ball off the Monaghan lad was hilarious. He has such a brilliant footballing brain. Am a wee bit worried that the scores from play don't seem to be happening for him.

There must be a clip/gif of that somewhere, one of the moments of the championship for me

Past30Now

Good result for us. Monaghan ran out of legs very quickly, but there is something wrong with a team when they have 15 men in their own half of the pitch when they were 8/9 points down in the first half. The second half was a non event, a training exercise for the Dubs. We could have won by 7, 17 or 27 points.

The game against Donegal will be similar. As CurryFlavoured said above,the 25 minutes of problems posed by Monaghan will be exceeded by Donegal. But ultimately I don't believe Donegal will score enough to trouble us. We'll beat them in the second half.

Hard to judge individual performances but delighted for Philly to get MOTM. Paul Flynn was everywhere. DC took his goal very well, and really is a guy for the big occasion. Macker was hooked relatively early and probably is the forward most at risk for the 31st. Our defence was great offensively, and kept their key men quiet.

Bernard was lethal from frees yesterday and played very well, but it seemed to me that he realised with 15 mins to go that he hadn't scored from play (other than the goal) and took on a couple of shots that should have been passed to a better placed team mate. Costello's goal chance probably falls into the same category,but I'd have been screaming for him if he'd buried it.

Good result. It'll be harder the next day.

DoctaDee

I felt sorry for Monaghan in some respects - I was sat with some of their supporters in the Cusack. Pre match they were chatting about hopefully putting up a decent performance, not getting slaughtered and that they were no match for the Dubs. I took it with a pinch, possibly cute hoorism ? - but no, that really was the extent of their expectation for Saturday. Strangely enough as the game wore on I got the feeling the players expectations were mirroring those of their supporters.

After a competitive 20 mins - in which they played with a lot of vigour and an attacking enough line up contrary to the full blanket defence that was expected, it just went downhill. BB drew some great praise from the Monaghan lads in going over to check on Walshe after him shipping the knock. After the 1st goal, possibly as a consequence of Walshe's injury I got the feeling it was rabbit in the headlights stuff. The 2 forward lads were withdrawn deep and the battle lines were redrawn probably on the Monaghan 45, never a good sign. The 60 odd mins they stayed to watch the game, they applauded every Dublin score, true sportmanship and hopefully they'll be back soon.

From our own perspective I was delighted with the performance, it's safe to say that from 1 - 15 only Cluxton played in the position he was named. I'm sure the Kildare game had a bearing on the overall scoreline, but if we benchmark our own recent performances against Kildare with Monaghan barely getting over the line after ET, the result wouldn't have been hugely unexpected, other than the intangible aspect of the relative playing styles of both of those teams.

I've been dipping in and out of the other threads here, very little in the way of objective posting on the game itself, just plenty of hand wringing and think of the children remarks about the state of the game. I for one will never be an apologist for the winning margins of the current team, you only have to go back in the recent past to 07/08 and the hammerings we took from Kerry/Tyrone at this stage of the championship, I remember just like the Monaghan lads last Saturday sitting in the lashings of rain in 08 when Tyrone tore us apart - these are our golden days, hopefully this group will be mentioned in the same sentence as Kerry of the 70/80's when comparing the greatest teams ever. To do that they have to keep winning and winning well, there's not enough points that they can put on Donegal in the SF if I'm being honest. Ta

Moneymaker

Yeah i'll echo your sentiments on the Monaghan supporters. Lads around me were sound too.

Northern teams in general bring knowledgeable and humble supporters.

Was there for all the bad days, it's nice to see us play so well and be so dominant but it lacks the joy and sheer jubilation.

Days like Kerry in 2011 and 2013 more then make up for it though. Even go back to Tyrone in 2010.

Slattsy

DoctaDee wrote: »

I felt sorry for Monaghan in some respects - I was sat with some of their supporters in the Cusack. Pre match they were chatting about hopefully putting up a decent performance, not getting slaughtered and that they were no match for the Dubs. I took it with a pinch, possibly cute hoorism ? - but no, that really was the extent of their expectation for Saturday. Strangely enough as the game wore on I got the feeling the players expectations were mirroring those of their supporters.

After a competitive 20 mins - in which they played with a lot of vigour and an attacking enough line up contrary to the full blanket defence that was expected, it just went downhill. BB drew some great praise from the Monaghan lads in going over to check on Walshe after him shipping the knock. After the 1st goal, possibly as a consequence of Walshe's injury I got the feeling it was rabbit in the headlights stuff. The 2 forward lads were withdrawn deep and the battle lines were redrawn probably on the Monaghan 45, never a good sign. The 60 odd mins they stayed to watch the game, they applauded every Dublin score, true sportmanship and hopefully they'll be back soon.

From our own perspective I was delighted with the performance, it's safe to say that from 1 - 15 only Cluxton played in the position he was named. I'm sure the Kildare game had a bearing on the overall scoreline, but if we benchmark our own recent performances against Kildare with Monaghan barely getting over the line after ET, the result wouldn't have been hugely unexpected, other than the intangible aspect of the relative playing styles of both of those teams.

I've been dipping in and out of the other threads here, very little in the way of objective posting on the game itself, just plenty of hand wringing and think of the children remarks about the state of the game. I for one will never be an apologist for the winning margins of the current team, you only have to go back in the recent past to 07/08 and the hammerings we took from Kerry/Tyrone at this stage of the championship, I remember just like the Monaghan lads last Saturday sitting in the lashings of rain in 08 when Tyrone tore us apart - these are our golden days, hopefully this group will be mentioned in the same sentence as Kerry of the 70/80's when comparing the greatest teams ever. To do that they have to keep winning and winning well, there's not enough points that they can put on Donegal in the SF if I'm being honest. Ta

Yes !!!!

corny

Moneymaker wrote: »

Yeah i'll echo your sentiments on the Monaghan supporters. Lads around me were sound too.

Northern teams in general bring knowledgeable and humble supporters.

Was there for all the bad days, it's nice to see us play so well and be so dominant but it lacks the joy and sheer jubilation.

Days like Kerry in 2011 and 2013 more then make up for it though. Even go back to Tyrone in 2010.

O Gara lashing that ball home tops the lot.:D

Gerlad

Moneymaker wrote: »

Yeah i'll echo your sentiments on the Monaghan supporters. Lads around me were sound too.

Northern teams in general bring knowledgeable and humble supporters.

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I must have been unlucky then as there were a few snide Monaghan and Donegal fans around us in the middle of the lower Cusack. The abuse they were shouting at Connolly when there was a skirmish before his goal was unreal.

There was a couple of fisticuffs to the right of us that had to be broken up too.

Slattsy

Its few and far between the 'fans' of other counties that actually respect us. I always find the Kerry boys seem to in my experience.
Most are blinded by pure jealousy and hatred.

Sure i think its great craic myself

davidfitz22

Slattsy wrote: »

Its few and far between the 'fans' of other counties that actually respect us. I always find the Kerry boys seem to in my experience.
Most are blinded by pure jealousy and hatred.

Sure i think its great craic myself

It was cringeworthy to see all the donegal fans shouting for monaghan and waving donegal flags whenever monaghan scored, after monaghan fans blatently shouted for armagh. The mentality is that dublin = bad people, that's what people outside are raised to believe.

Moneymaker

davidfitz22 wrote: »

It was cringeworthy to see all the donegal fans shouting for monaghan and waving donegal flags whenever monaghan scored, after monaghan fans blatently shouted for armagh. The mentality is that dublin = bad people, that's what people outside are raised to believe.

Sure read the rest of the forum, comments on rte.ie, Facebook etc.

Begrudgery and bitterness is alive and well.

Santa Cruz

Moneymaker wrote: »

Sure read the rest of the forum, comments on rte.ie, Facebook etc.

Begrudgery and bitterness is alive and well.

Get used to it. Whoever is on top is open to this abuse. Dublin are great for the game as long as they aren't winning. Tyrone hate Armagh, Kerry "respect" Cork as long as they beat them. When Cork won a few in 89/90 it was a different story.



In hurling all love to see Clare, Offaly break through as long as they feck off for another 40 years after winning one.

corny

Good and bad people everywhere. Dublins success just brings them out of the woodwork. Sure I've lost track of the amount of uncouth individuals i've seen in blue jerseys over the years.

I'd forgive the Donegal supporters cheering for Monaghan too. Motivated by self preservation. They're ****ting themselves having to play Dublin.:pac:

DoctaDee

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Get used to it. Whoever is on top is open to this abuse. Dublin are great for the game as long as they aren't winning. Tyrone hate Armagh, Kerry "respect" Cork as long as they beat them. When Cork won a few in 89/90 it was a different story.



In hurling all love to see Clare, Offaly break through as long as they feck off for another 40 years after winning one.

LOL... a bit too near the truth there I suspect