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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Stoner wrote: »
    cant believe i missed that, I'd love to see it again, I should really get the DVD if there is one, I'd watch the Donegal game again too.

    There's DVDs released every year with highlights of the season with a full game at the end.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    I agree with BKWDR, you can't have someone coming in at this stage having played zero county football all year unless we're desperate in that position. Unlucky for Ger but Nicky's doing well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭C.O.Y.B.I.B


    Stoner wrote: »
    cant believe i missed that, I'd love to see it again, I should really get the DVD if there is one, I'd watch the Donegal game again too.

    Elverys in Omni, Santry had it at the counter for I think it was 1 euro ! Had a few last Week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Elverys in Omni, Santry had it at the counter for I think it was 1 euro ! Had a few last Week.

    On my way! Seriously though thanks .


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Stoner wrote: »
    he was certainly very good in the final last year. I was about to add him to the list with Brady as a player that would be handy against Donegal.

    IF Dublin get to ta final with Mayo he'd be handy to have too as he's not bad checking AOS running through.

    All that aside Nicky Deveroux seems to be growing into the position, size, height and speed and can carry the ball ball well. Does not distribute it as well as Brennan (Corny :)) but he's certainly looked good so far, no great tests so far but still.

    Donegal would certainly try to target Brennan if he was on the pitch IMHO.

    Ha ha. Yeah I never shut up about Brennan but in truth its a non story. Considering the fitness levels and abilities of the players in his position he couldn't be within an asses roar of playing a part. Huge block of training and several games before he catches up and thats not happening this season. Next season though.....:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Stoner wrote: »
    On my way! Seriously though thanks .

    Eleverys at Croker are selling them for €1 too. I went in to purchase a baseball cap for the Leinster Final after years of putting up with sun-gazing and couldn't resist it. I've no broken the seal on it but when I do it will be glorious. Got the 2013 edition for a Christmas present :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Eleverys at Croker are selling them for €1 too. I went in to purchase a baseball cap for the Leinster Final after years of putting up with sun-gazing and couldn't resist it. I've no broken the seal on it but when I do it will be glorious. Got the 2013 edition for a Christmas present :)

    Fingers crossed Suffolk St has it the mara.

    Absolutely dying for Sunday at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Elverys in Omni, Santry had it at the counter for I think it was 1 euro ! Had a few last Week.

    I got two today, still plenty left .

    Watched the six steps to Sam great stuff. Plenty of close games

    Kildare
    Wexford
    Donegal
    Kerry

    Connelly was something else vs Tyrone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Stoner wrote: »
    What's the key match up lads?

    I have a feeling he won't start O'Gara. I hope he holds him back TBH. Its going to be interesting its possibly the strongest 14 vs the strongest 3 left in the championship.

    Gallagher vs McAuley I think the Donegal man might win the first half but not the second.

    McBrearty could cause problems I'd expect Cooper or NcMahon to pick him up I could see one having trouble with him and a switch being made can't see Fitz staying with him for some reason.

    Heres my team

    Cluxton
    McMahon ocarrol cooper
    McCarty deveroux Nolan
    O'Sullivan MDM
    Connelly Rock Flynn
    AB Costello BB

    For some reason I could see Brady suiting this game
    OGara McCaffery KMcM and Bastic from the bench.

    I think you can throw out traditional matchups, those Donegal boys will be marking space.

    This could be a truly dour game yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I think the middle of the field will be a match up. Certainly in 2012 there was space there in Donegal's plan that would need to be marked.

    Point taken with McGee vs O'Gara though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    I think we'll see as defensive a Donegal side as we've ever seen. With the bit of rain coming and the hand-egg game on on saturday the pitch could suit Donegal's scrappy style a bit more as well. It'll be tight but hopefully we come through, clinical shooting and patience needed.

    O'Gara vs McGee would be a great battle. I could see Eoghan being shut out but that'll hopefully leave a bit of space for Bernard and the lads. Rock's long range shooting could come in handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    I think we'll see as defensive a Donegal side as we've ever seen. With the bit of rain coming and the hand-egg game on on saturday the pitch could suit Donegal's scrappy style a bit more as well. It'll be tight but hopefully we come through, clinical shooting and patience needed.

    O'Gara vs McGee would be a great battle. I could see Eoghan being shut out but that'll hopefully leave a bit of space for Bernard and the lads. Rock's long range shooting could come in handy.

    If we do that we will lose.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Ladies under 16s beaten again by Cork for the second year in a row - sorry lads! Dublin seniors had a cracking win over Galway and are now into the All Ireland final on the 28th September against the winner of Cork v Armagh next weekend


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭emmetlego


    Ladies under 16s beaten again by Cork for the second year in a row - sorry lads! Dublin seniors had a cracking win over Galway and are now into the All Ireland final on the 28th September against the winner of Cork v Armagh next weekend

    Cork so!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    emmetlego wrote: »
    Cork so!

    I haven't booked my flights yet - Cork needed Juliet to come on and inspire a comeback against Armagh last year, so I'd be wary!

    Match report
    Dublin 2-14 Galway 1-13
    Gregory McGonigle’s Dublin ladies senior footballers are through to a first TG4 All-Ireland final since 2010 after beating Galway by four points at Cusack Park in Mullingar.

    In his first season at the helm, former Monaghan boss McGonigle has taken the Sky Blues to within touching distance of Brendan Martin Cup glory again.
    McGonigle was in charge of the Monaghan teams that lost the 2011 and 2013 All-Ireland finals but he now has the chance to strike gold at the third time of asking.

    For Galway, however, this was a third successive semi-final defeat, as goals from Lindsay Peat and Carla Rowe proved their undoing in the second half.
    Dublin led by 0-10 to 0-8 at half-time and in the second half the Leinster champions managed to turn the screw. Galway had a goal chance early in the second half as Ger Conneally forced a good save from Cliodhna O’Connor and at the other end, in the 40th minute, Peat forced the ball over the line at the second attempt following good work by sub Siobhan Woods.

    Dublin lost Leah Caffrey to the sin-bin for a yellow card offence but still managed to keep Galway comfortably at arm’s length. And when Rowe finished a flowing move in the 49th minute, the Jackies were 2-12 to 0-10 clear and firmly in the driving seat. Despite the best efforts of Annette Clarke and Barbara Hannon, Dublin were simply too good as they set up a final meeting with Armagh or Cork on September 28.

    Clarke, one of five survivors in the Galway team from their 2004 All-Ireland success, netted a 54th minute penalty and added two frees but Dublin held out for a four-point win. The sides had been level five times in the first half before a pair of frees from Dublin’s Sinead Aherne opened up a two-point gap. Galway led just once in the game, 0-6 to 0-5, but Dublin enjoyed a strong final ten minutes of the first half to regain the whip hand.
    Aherne finished as leading scorer for her side while Lyndsey Davey and Noelle Healy collected five points from play between them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I won't see or here match at all as I travelling :-(

    Quietly confide we can win this today, come on you dubs I be there in true blue spirit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Missing this as recovering from surgery, expecting a very close game.

    Here's hoping it's us that come out on top. Weather looks great for it so far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Jaysus, that was like the bad days all over again. Keystone Kops defending, headless chickens in attack, bad wides, complete loss of composure.

    Hard to dissect right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    That was fúcking dreadful. I said it and I said it and I said it... Dublin have not had to play a game of football all year. Their first big test was today, and they blew it. Badly. I've never seen the Dublin attackers so awful as I've done today.

    Hat off to Donegal. They were written off absolutely everywhere. I felt Dublin, my beloved Dublin, would win today. But I had a niggling, sneaky feeling that Donegal were made of more than people said. I had a feeling that the first proper game of football that Dublin had to play needed to be in the quarter finals. Otherwise, by simply breezing into a semi-final, it would be curtains.

    Donegal played absolutely awesome football today. Michael Murphy deserves Footballer Of The Year based on today's performance alone. He was EVERYWHERE. Dublin never got a sniff of it when Murphy was in full flow. A towering, behemoth performance from Donegal's key man.

    As gutted as I am, I have a slightly smug, 'I told you so' head on me at the minute. Nobody who I said it to believed me, and I was dismissed out of hand as talking nonsense. But I said it time and time again that Dublin had yet to face a real challenge and the first big challenge they would face could be their undoing. As it proved to be. In fairness, no better team than Dublin to pick up the pieces and go again. They'll win it next year, hopefully.

    Looking forward to the final, this is a very hard one to call. But if Donegal play the way they did today and the way they played in the 2012 Final, they will win the day. But Kerry are still Kerry. A team that is never beaten until they are BEATEN. A team that has pedigree, history and 100,000 screaming Kerrymen in its corner. Donegal v. Kerry in an All Ireland Final for the first time in history. And it's going to be a fúcking cracker.

    The goal in the first half was the killer. It stunned Dublin. Dublin were fúcking strolling around, popping the points over, blowing goal chances, up to then. They thought it was easy. Donegal then sprung the trap and caught the Dubs by the balls... and they never let go.

    Gutted for Dublin, but simply were not good enough at all. Embarrassing at times. Donegal, what a performance. Time and again, Donegal have silenced the doubters and haters. And they did so again today. It was a brilliant, phenomenal performance that showed incredible mental strength, skill, passion, fitness, determination and self-belief. Towering. They will be hard bet.

    The City That Fought An Empire Shall Rise Again...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭redarmy


    Opps:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Centre back has been a problem position for Dublin all this year and today it showed, nobody holding the centre, and that is a fault at the management, they should have seen after the first break Donegal made through the middle they needed somebody shoring the middle

    Also McAuley should have been taken off after 50 mins, for most of Donegals scores in the second half Donegal players just coasted past him, he did not have the legs

    Very disappointing, only Connolly and Flynn can hold their heads high


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Gutted **** **** **** **** :-(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Hard luck boys. You's have been great champions and won't be waiting too long for your next all Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Disappointed but not distraught. Being comprehensively outplayed helps a little i think.

    We had no answer to the way Donegal play football unfortunately and to me thats the nail in the coffin for Gavins approach to football. Which is probably the saddest thing about today. If we played them next week and the week after we'd lose again and again and always on the drawing board.

    Not too many good performances. Obviously Flynn and Connolly took some exceptional scores. Philly McMahon played quite well too.

    Negatives? Basically all the defenders were humiliated. Jack McCaffrey, and i don't take delight in saying this, just cannot defend well enough at this level. His pace saves him against average teams but they made him a passenger today. He, along with a lot of Dublin defenders, ball watched as Donegal hand passed around them.

    Johnny Cooper alternated between wing forward and centre back but he was a passenger in both positions.

    For Donegal? The position Neil Gallagher took up on kickouts and how the support rushed onto the ball was very well worked. Yielded several goal chances. You'd have to admire their work rate and tenacity. They've some brilliant players too. Don't like the way the play football and they've a unique set of supporters but they deserved their win!

    PS at least the talk of funding and splitting Dublin in two will stop for a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Hard luck boys. You's have been great champions and won't be waiting too long for your next all Ireland.
    Bye now. Shut the door behind you and thanks.

    The guff spewed on here over the past 3 weeks. Embarassing.

    A brilliant day for Donegal.

    :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    My main 'what if' at the moment - Dublin take O'Gara off at half time and put in Darren Daly standing on the D.

    Donegal players running at the Dublin goal. No dublin player in front of them (trailing yards behind) Tactically inept. The pressing system is fine but anything taken to extremes is dangerous. Donegal adapted an extreme system after 2011 and found better results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭EunanMac


    corny wrote: »
    Don't like the way the play football and they've a unique set of supporters but they deserved their win!

    Can you explain what is 'unique' about their supporters ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    My main 'what if' at the moment - Dublin take O'Gara off at half time and put in Darren Daly standing on the D.

    Not sure it would have made much difference. We needed more than one extra body in defensive situations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Ger Brenann's presence was missing today as he is a commander in the centre of the pitch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    corny wrote: »
    Not sure it would have made much difference. We needed more than one extra body in defensive situations.

    Yes you could play a blanket defence if you want - but that's not necessary.
    You can't throw the baby out with the bath water.

    Playing attacking football and pressing the opposition up the pitch has yielded good results for us. One small tweak would make a big difference. You can't give up the central channel in front of goal. Even one player marking space would of helped here. Donegal pulled our guys all over the place to suit themselves. They walked the ball in to the goal then. And could have had a few more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Dublinproud


    My main 'what if' at the moment - Dublin take O'Gara off at half time and put in Darren Daly standing on the D.

    Donegal players running at the Dublin goal. No dublin player in front of them (trailing yards behind) Tactically inept. The pressing system is fine but anything taken to extremes is dangerous. Donegal adapted an extreme system after 2011 and found better results.

    How about taking O'Gara off and leaving it at that? No other player in my time as a fan has ever had more disappointing days in a Dubs jersey than this guy. Another start yet again today. I hate to critise my own players but it has to be said he is not up to this level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭omega man


    LostBoy101 wrote: »
    Ger Brenann's presence was missing today as he is a commander in the centre of the pitch.

    This absolutely. It was amazing to see donegal win the ball in MF and then almost immediately create a goal scoring opportunity so often. Surely Gavin should have dropped an extra player in the back line after the first or second goal. I suppose based on the season so far he like many of us thought we could counter by just scoring more but alas it wasn't to be.

    The big moment for me was Connolly's 1st half goal chance. Had he scored it I think we would have been 8 up. Surely game over then. In fairness to him he was excellent today along with Flynn, savage performances from them both.

    Anyway we won 2 all Ireland's in 4 years so although I'm gutted i can take this one in the knowledge we've already achieved great things following such a long time in the wilderness and in the knowledge we'll be back for more next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Yes you could play a blanket defence if you want - but that's not necessary.
    You can't throw the baby out with the bath water.

    Playing attacking football and pressing the opposition up the pitch has yielded good results for us. One small tweak would make a big difference. You can't give up the central channel in front of goal. Even one player marking space would of helped here. Donegal pulled our guys all over the place to suit themselves. They walked the ball in to the goal then. And could have had a few more.

    Would one extra body cure that? No evidence of that imo. Their gameplan of moving the ball with strong runners takes defenders out of the game. We had too many lads ball watching for one extra defender to make much of a difference. Just another defender for them to play the ball around.

    It takes a dozen bodies for Donegal to secure the central channel lets not forget.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Jake Rugby Walrus666


    I take your point Corny. But I don't think it is necessary to become Donegal to beat Donegal. There is a middle ground. That's just my opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    LostBoy101 wrote: »
    Ger Brenann's presence was missing today as he is a commander in the centre of the pitch.

    Dublin won midfield for about the first 30 minutes.

    Then it all started to slip away.....

    O'Sullivan seemed to struggle a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Unusual game. First 30mins Dublin looked like the better team and then they fell apart. Then we saw Donegal 2012 appearing and Dublin just looked flat and flat out of ideas. McGuinness is some manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Dublin won midfield for about the first 30 minutes.

    Then it all started to slip away.....

    O'Sullivan seemed to struggle a bit
    Aye they just lost concentration and Donegal exploited the center of the pitch. Cooper wasn't up to the task and a passengar in the 2nd half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    An astonishingly poor last 50 mins in the context of what we've witnessed for the last 2 years. But sure what can ya do, I'm getting the god forbids ready now for back to skule I'd be doing it if we won too. At the end of the day its not gonna change our lives is it ? Its only a game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭coolisin


    It's a harsh lesson that needed to be learned in fairness gutted by it.
    The wave attack was really working in the first half of the first half! Then it all fell apart. It's just 2012 all over again!

    Jesus some of the shooting was horrible.
    It was the one time I felt we needed a captain out the field to help sort the team out.
    Cluxton couldn't even have the team show him options for kickouts. At one kick out the entire team where looking the wrong way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Luckily I don't remember too much from yesterday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Bad day at the office. I thought Jim got it wrong, too attacking too early in the second half. All the half backs and McMahon were basically forwards leaving Mick Fitz and ROC alone, Donegal are one of the best counter attacking sides in the Country and we saw that. I agree Brennan was missed.

    That said, if Connolly put away that goal (I hate his lethargic finishes :mad: ) or O'Gara had played a better pass to Bernard in the first half when we were dominant, I'm confident we win. Donegal the better side overall though, no question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Past30Now


    It's a morning of "whatifery" here this morning. If only O'Gara had played a decent pass to Bernard when we were 4-1 up. If only DC had put his boot to through the ball with his goal chance. If only we'd been slightly more defensive, particularly JCoops. The hole created by his following the play gave Donegal far too much space to attack, particularly on their kick outs. Sickening feeling. Beaten by the better team.

    I didn't watch the Sunday Game, so haven't heard any interviews other than the Donegal player on the pitch afterwards. I see Alan Brogan has retired. A great player for Dublin. Brilliant career, and I wish him all the best in the future.

    Two things. While watching the match, particularly in the first half, I felt the ref gave 10 decisions in a row for Donegal. I had a quick flick through the match thread this morning and I see a number of contributors calling the ref our 16th man. Just shows that everybody feels the ref is against them.

    Secondly well done to Donegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Past30Now wrote: »
    It's a morning of "whatifery" here this morning. If only O'Gara had played a decent pass to Bernard when we were 4-1 up. If only DC had put his boot to through the ball with his goal chance. If only we'd been slightly more defensive, particularly JCoops. The hole created by his following the play gave Donegal far too much space to attack, particularly on their kick outs. Sickening feeling. Beaten by the better team.

    I didn't watch the Sunday Game, so haven't heard any interviews other than the Donegal player on the pitch afterwards. I see Alan Brogan has retired. A great player for Dublin. Brilliant career, and I wish him all the best in the future.

    Two things. While watching the match, particularly in the first half, I felt the ref gave 10 decisions in a row for Donegal. I had a quick flick through the match thread this morning and I see a number of contributors calling the ref our 16th man. Just shows that everybody feels the ref is against them.

    Secondly well done to Donegal.

    Dublin got 0 frees in the Donegal half of the pitch in the first half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Past30Now


    Godge wrote: »
    Dublin got 0 frees in the Donegal half of the pitch in the first half.

    That was what I thought. My point was that some of the posters in the match thread were giving out about the frees being given to Dublin in the second half.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Alan Brogan hasn't retired, he brushed them rumours off.

    O'Gara was a problem. When he doesn't have space he's bad as he can't use his athleticism 1 v 1, he's not a clever player, all brawn no brain. That's not to say he isn't a good player, but there's a time and a place, yesterday was neither. Probably best as an impact sub most days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Past30Now wrote: »
    That was what I thought. My point was that some of the posters in the match thread were giving out about the frees being given to Dublin in the second half.

    Better off staying out of the match thread lol.

    There's always gonna be that element trying to detract from this Dublin team. Looking around Europe I see Madrid were beaten last night...it happens doesn't make them any less a team. It's a game Dublin would expect to win 7/10 times, they didn't when it mattered most I can live with it. I can also congratulate Donegal on a great performance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Godge wrote: »
    Dublin got 0 frees in the Donegal half of the pitch in the first half.

    Cluxton not have one that he missed? I think the stat was we only gave away 3 in our own half, of which only Cluxtons was scoreable.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Think that was a 45 no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Don't understand the O Gara bashing at all.

    Any player asked to occupy a position where 5 or 6 eager defenders are patrolling is going to struggle. Bar his scrambled score (which O Gara broke for him) what did BB do that O Gara didn't?


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