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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Do we have to pay 50 smackers to visit your clinic? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Do we have to pay 50 smackers to visit your clinic? :D

    Ah jaysis no PD I've adopted the NHS model it's free for all! Well other than specialist services like mental health issues that"ll cost but can be claimed back at the bar :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    DUBLIN (SF v Kerry)

    1 Seán Currie (Ballymun Kickhams)

    2 Eoin Culligan (Kilmacud Crokes)

    3 Rory O'Carroll (Kilmacud Crokes)

    4 Darren Daly (Fingal Ravens)

    5 Jonny Cooper (Na Fianna)

    6 John Small (Ballymun Kickhams)

    7 Jack McCaffrey (Clontarf)

    8 Denis Bastick (Templeogue Synge St)

    9 Emmett O Conghaile (Lucan Sarsfields)

    10 Tomás Brady (Na Fianna)

    11 Dean Rock (Ballymun Kickhams)

    12 Ciaran Kilkenny (Castleknock)

    13 Kevin McManamon (St Jude's)

    14 Eoghan O'Gara (Templeogue Synge St)

    15 Cormac Costello (Whitehall Colmcille)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I confidently expect to have my surgery/clinic up and running in The Laurels Pub in Killarney Saturday afternoon off the 11.05 train, topic under discussion will include whether Kerry will be the 5th game in a row we'll be tasked with playing against a blanket defence and whether there's a 21st/wedding reception worth crashing in the town :D

    The Labour Party conference is on in town. Our Glorious Leader - aka Joan Brutal - will be addressing the adoring masses in about an hour. G'wan and crash that & get yer mug on the telly. I dare ya !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Ref complete homer in the game. How that wasn't a red card is just shocking officiating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    Ref complete homer in the game. How that wasn't a red card is just shocking officiating.

    I agree but to be fair Costello could of got his marching orders too. Molloy has to be number 2 in the championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Very poor 2nd half from Dublin.

    How Donaghy is still on the pitch i'll never know, gets away with murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Very poor 2nd half from Dublin.

    How Donaghy is still on the pitch i'll never know, gets away with murder.

    Should off been off the same time as Bastick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    EICVD wrote: »
    I agree but to be fair Costello could of got his marching orders too. Molloy has to be number 2 in the championship.

    Can't give a opinion on the Costello incident as I,was not watching at the time. Currie has been rubbish with some of his decision making and kick outs.

    The ref should have overturned the free instead of throwing it up. Mc Mahon I felt got a soft black card as well,no more then a yellow I thought,it's still no excuse for this second half performance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Is there a more detestable player in Gaelic football then Donaghy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Gotta love that ref lol. I'd say there'll be a few pints bought for him later on for the job his done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Is there a more detestable player in Gaelic football then Donaghy.

    Diarmuid Connolly and O'Gara would have to be up there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    We're not getting much from refs so far, hopefully we'll get a few neutrals in the Championship !!

    Kerry deserved the win, we're were ****e in the 2nd half. No idea what O'Gara brings to the table. Useless again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    I think Fitzy can feel hard done by with the red, actually looked softer than your man hitting Cooper in the face when he won his free! Can't blame the ref though, simply not good enough, even more disappointing is not scoring a single point in the last 10 after scoring that fluke of a goal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Is there a more detestable player in Gaelic football then Donaghy.

    Nope.
    Shouldnt have been on the field at the end. Fouled all day long and thought O'Carroll did well on him when Donaghy tried to play legally. A better ref would have sent him off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Slattsy wrote: »
    We're not getting much from refs so far, hopefully we'll get a few neutrals in the Championship !!

    Kerry deserved the win, we're were ****e in the 2nd half. No idea what O'Gara brings to the table. Useless again.

    His miss in the first half was hilarious,I don't know how he managed to not at least test keeper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gaga84


    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.

    News to me ðŸ˜႒


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gaga84


    Joekers wrote: »
    News to me ðŸ˜႒

    Interesting how its always news to Dubs after. Over the last 2 years Dubs, yes Dubs have been hyping on about how they have a second 15 better then most teams. But of course you're going to deny that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Interesting how its always news to Dubs after. Over the last 2 years Dubs, yes Dubs have been hyping on about how they have a second 15 better then most teams. But of course you're going to deny that...

    Thing is our second 15 is better than most teams, most teams being all division 3 & 4 teams . Nobody thinks our second 15 is better than our division 1 rivals or a few of the teams in division 2.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    The 21 Dublin players who featured today

    Seán Currie
    Michael Fitzsimmons
    Rory O'Carroll
    Darren Daly
    Jonny Cooper
    Phillip McMahon
    Jack McCaffrey
    Denis Bastick
    Shane Carthy
    Tomas Brady
    Dean Rock
    Ciaran Kilkenny
    Kevin McManamon
    Eoghan O'Gara
    Cormac Costello
    Bernard Brogan
    Brian Fenton
    Cian O'Sullivan
    Eric Lowdnes
    Nicky Devereux
    Paddy Andrews

    The following 20 players are those who have either featured in the league already this year or were part of the Dublin panel last year.

    Alan Brogan
    Ciaran Reddin
    Conor McHugh
    Darragh Nelson
    David Bryne
    Davy Bryne
    Declan O'Mahony
    Diarmuid Connolly
    Emmett O'Conghaile
    Eoin Culligan
    Ger Brennan
    James McCarthy
    Johnny Small
    Kevin Nolan
    Michael Darragh MacAuley
    Michael Deegan
    Niall McGovern
    Paul Flynn
    Phillip Ryan
    Stephen Cluxton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.

    Don't think it does actually. Might put to bed the Dublin has too many good players/money and should be be split in two rubbish but I doubt it. We might have the strongest 30 odd players but that doesn't mean best team. Most Dubs understand this but somehow people from outside Dublin think that if the media print it then the Dubs think it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.

    Did you register just to get that off your chest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Donaghy is getting away with murder in a lot of games and the clowns on T.V and Pat McEnenany and his referees don't see it.

    I missed some of the game but the few things that did bother me was Currie and his kickouts I think he hit 4 in a row in the first half that were hardly in the ground as the player he was looking for. We were often to slow in our build up and Kerry just cantered back and made life very difficult for us.
    The referee was pathetic no other words he could not run a bath. It is not the first time he has ruined games and Dublin are not his only victims. Kerry could have been down to 13 players by 50th minute with Donaghy and I think Murphy walking a fine line after he slapped Cooper. I have no doubt if the roles were reversed Cooper would have walked.
    Dublin played some good football but the last 15 minutes were awful. Kerry had some good performers and Johnny Buckley could well be the main man come the summer. Great pace and mobile for a big man. Kerry will be stronger than last year so I hope Gavin can get more from our lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gaga84


    LeoB wrote: »
    Donaghy is getting away with murder in a lot of games and the clowns on T.V and Pat McEnenany and his referees don't see it.

    I missed some of the game but the few things that did bother me was Currie and his kickouts I think he hit 4 in a row in the first half that were hardly in the ground as the player he was looking for. We were often to slow in our build up and Kerry just cantered back and made life very difficult for us.
    The referee was pathetic no other words he could not run a bath. It is not the first time he has ruined games and Dublin are not his only victims. Kerry could have been down to 13 players by 50th minute with Donaghy and I think Murphy walking a fine line after he slapped Cooper. I have no doubt if the roles were reversed Cooper would have walked.
    Dublin played some good football but the last 15 minutes were awful. Kerry had some good performers and Johnny Buckley could well be the main man come the summer. Great pace and mobile for a big man. Kerry will be stronger than last year so I hope Gavin can get more from our lads.

    Not half bias with that post. Funny how you seemed to miss Donaghy being fouled constantly from the throw in and rory O Carroll was the biggest offender. He also should have had a penalty in second half.

    To try and paint Cooper as some sort of a victim is laughable, right before Paul Murphy dragged Cooper down Cooper let an elbow fly into Murphys jaw that was clearly a yellow and he go away with it. In fact he was using his elbow quite a bit today

    Costello who should also have seen red, as should Cian O Sullivan.

    Denis Bastick looked like an idiot with that throw down.

    Then we have Eoghan O'Gara. Dont really have to say very much about him now do we?

    Sounded like sour grapes from Gavin after the game I felt. Stuff about the lads tried to play football, pitch etc etc. He would want to take note and learn some lessons from the game, does he think everyone should go out and play 15 on 15 nicey nice football? It was like he was surprised. He would be advised to play dumb afterwards and go away and come up with a plan for the next episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.
    Puts nothing to bed. Dublin DO have strongest panel in Ireland but you can only 15 at a time. The second list of players above could win Leinster

    Problem is when you have a referee as poor as today Kilkenny could well cause an upset in Leinster football championship. But there is such begrudgery that people like to turn a blind eye to it until it hits their own county.

    Referees instead of players are all to often the talking point of games. Look back at the previous 2 years games in both codes and the Sunday game is often all about the referees. Hurling is getting as bad.

    Yes Dublin have benefited also with also with a few soft frees especially 2011. When O'Rourke, Brolly or Martin Carney call for 2 Dublin teams its is usually after a Leinster match where the opposition have collapsed due to no fault of Dublin just their own lack of strength and preparation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 gaga84


    LeoB wrote: »
    When O'Rourke, Brolly or Martin Carney call for 2 Dublin teams its is usually after a Leinster match where the opposition have collapsed due to no fault of Dublin just their own lack of strength and preparation.

    You might want to do a bit of research on that one. Seeing as it was a Dub who first suggested that idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Well that puts to bed the myth of Dublin having the best panel in Ireland.


    It's a myth created mainly by the media to be honest, there are always foolish fans, the sort of fans who read things in the papers and listen to Pat Spillane saying that Dublin have the best panel, or Colm O'Rourke writing about the high amount of inter-county footballers Dublin have, split them up etc. If people want to read and listen to that and blame Dublin fans for saying that on TV or writing that in the papers then so be it.

    Unfortunately every county has these fans, the sort that are neither magnanimous in victory or gracious in defeat. The sort who win a game and like to to gloat a bit. They are usually an embarrassment to the rest of their own fans IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    LeoB wrote: »
    Puts nothing to bed. Dublin DO have strongest panel in Ireland but you can only 15 at a time. The second list of players above could win Leinster

    Problem is when you have a referee as poor as today Kilkenny could well cause an upset in Leinster football championship. But there is such begrudgery that people like to turn a blind eye to it until it hits their own county.

    Referees instead of players are all to often the talking point of games. Look back at the previous 2 years games in both codes and the Sunday game is often all about the referees. Hurling is getting as bad.

    Yes Dublin have benefited also with also with a few soft frees especially 2011. When O'Rourke, Brolly or Martin Carney call for 2 Dublin teams its is usually after a Leinster match where the opposition have collapsed due to no fault of Dublin just their own lack of strength and preparation.

    Well did the each county play it's second best teams today? even if they did would it be a decider for the title of the best second team? TBH making these claims is pointless IMHO, we can't prove it either way and it was used over the past three or four years as an argument to split Dublin, in fact Dublin fans fought to disprove the theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Not half bias with that post. Funny how you seemed to miss Donaghy being fouled constantly from the throw in and rory O Carroll was the biggest offender. He also should have had a penalty in second half.

    To try and paint Cooper as some sort of a victim is laughable, right before Paul Murphy dragged Cooper down Cooper let an elbow fly into Murphys jaw that was clearly a yellow and he go away with it. In fact he was using his elbow quite a bit today

    Costello who should also have seen red, as should Cian O Sullivan.

    Denis Bastick looked like an idiot with that throw down.

    Then we have Eoghan O'Gara. Dont really have to say very much about him now do we?

    Sounded like sour grapes from Gavin after the game I felt. Stuff about the lads tried to play football, pitch etc etc. He would want to take note and learn some lessons from the game, does he think everyone should go out and play 15 on 15 nicey nice football? It was like he was surprised. He would be advised to play dumb afterwards and go away and come up with a plan for the next episode.


    Well if his post was half-biased, you sure more than made up for it by going full-on biased. Then again, you are only a wet week on the site so what would you know?

    If Kerry had finished the game with 10 men they couldn't have complained. Still nice to see some Kerry supporters making a big thing out of the game. Two years ago, all I heard was that it was just the league, fully expect that real Kerry supporters still have the attitude that it was just the league.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭MaxPower89


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Sounded like sour grapes from Gavin after the game I felt. Stuff about the lads tried to play football, pitch etc etc. He would want to take note and learn some lessons from the game, does he think everyone should go out and play 15 on 15 nicey nice football? It was like he was surprised. He would be advised to play dumb afterwards and go away and come up with a plan for the next episode.

    No need to be robbing other people's posts, I'm sure you are well able to put your own thoughs into words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Gotta love that ref lol. I'd say there'll be a few pints bought for him later on for the job his done.

    Don't know how he got to ref the game as he was clearly unfit. Several times he delayed Dublin quick frees and kick-outs so that he could jog slowly back into place. Currie was struggling enough and didn't need that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    gaga84 wrote: »
    Not half bias with that post. Funny how you seemed to miss Donaghy being fouled constantly from the throw in and rory O Carroll was the biggest offender. He also should have had a penalty in second half.

    To try and paint Cooper as some sort of a victim is laughable, right before Paul Murphy dragged Cooper down Cooper let an elbow fly into Murphys jaw that was clearly a yellow and he go away with it. In fact he was using his elbow quite a bit today

    Costello who should also have seen red, as should Cian O Sullivan.

    Denis Bastick looked like an idiot with that throw down.

    Then we have Eoghan O'Gara. Dont really have to say very much about him now do we?

    Sounded like sour grapes from Gavin after the game I felt. Stuff about the lads tried to play football, pitch etc etc. He would want to take note and learn some lessons from the game, does he think everyone should go out and play 15 on 15 nicey nice football? It was like he was surprised. He would be advised to play dumb afterwards and go away and come up with a plan for the next episode.

    We are all biased to some extent.

    If you actually took time to read my post you will have noticed I said I didnt see the whole game but from the top
    Donaghy should not have been on the pitch in the second half for any penalty. He in a most unsporting way that most don't associate with Kerry teams influences referees by whinging from the throw-in or when things get tough and today was no different.

    I saw Cooper / Murphy incident but honestly didnt see Cooper use his elbow on him. If he did the referee should have dealt with it.
    Bastic was very hard done by. These incidents are causing problems in games as one referee gives a card another gives a free.
    O'Gara I am not a fan of but he was no worse than Donaghy today
    I didnt hear Jim Gavin after the match but unlike him to whine about referees but you can only take so much. Nobody expects a nicy approach just fair play and it was seriously missing today.

    Most Dubs who go to games would have a lot of respect for Kerry players and teams and that is grand when you have a decent and fair referee but there is no excusing that incompetent **** referee today. He was awful and quite clearly favoured Kerry. When someone like him is in charge of a game he can cause serious damage to a team or the outcome of a competition.
    Thank fcuk he was not in charge in the Aviva today;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    gaga84 wrote: »
    You might want to do a bit of research on that one. Seeing as it was a Dub who first suggested that idea

    Reading the Kerry thread you seem a little obsessed & hurt by what a few people posted on another forum. You do realise what one Dublin fan sprouts doesn't mean we all believe the same thing, we all know most Kerry fans aren't as pathetic as you. Kerry deserved their win today, Costello was lucky to stay on the field & Donaghy is a trouble maker first, footballer second. Every Dub on this forum also knows Kerry deserve to be favourites for the AI this year, you were the best team last year & deservedly became champs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Can someone point me towards the Computers forum please? I thought this was the Boards.ie GAA forum, but my browser seems to be redirecting me to some sort of Hogan Stand bolloxology. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Can someone point me towards the Computers forum please? I thought this was the Boards.ie GAA forum, but my browser seems to be redirecting me to some sort of Hogan Stand bolloxology. Cheers.

    No bother lad.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    From one Kerryman to another- gaga, wind your f*ckin neck in son as you're embarrassing not only yourself but the rest of us on this thread.

    Tough game, both teams got some dodgy decisions and us maybe 1 or 2 more but not as much as is being made out.
    Nothing is won on the 1st of March though and I;m sure we'll see ye again


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭MaxPower89


    Pretty embarrassing quotes this morning again from Gavin, accusing Fionn of going down easy, blaming ref etc. No mention that they were totally outplayed?

    Thought the man had more class than that, I cant remember him winging last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Cu Baire


    MaxPower89 wrote: »
    Pretty embarrassing quotes this morning again from Gavin, accusing Fionn of going down easy, blaming ref etc. No mention that they were totally outplayed?

    Thought the man had more class than that, I cant remember him winging last year.

    The mask has definitely slipped.
    He seems to be feeling the pressure more since his gameplan was demolished by Donegal and alternative methods are proving difficult to implement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    His comments about Fitzgerald are pretty poor, but a guy is entitled to a small moan the odd time without accusations of mask-slippage I think!


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Cu Baire


    keane2097 wrote: »
    His comments about Fitzgerald are pretty poor, but a guy is entitled to a small moan the odd time without accusations of mask-slippage I think!
    Maybe wrong choice of words. But there is a definite change in demeanour from the Dublin Management team over the last 12 months.
    Then again most intercounty set ups these days like to develop a siege mentality to bond the group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Think the comments are a being a bit harsh on Gavin.

    Yes the comments on Fitzgerald are poor, but then you have to consider he got one look at the incident (and judging from his comments he didn't even get a good look at it).

    If he'd come out with that this morning having watched it back, it'd be embarrassing, as it was for me, as clearcut a red card as you can get, charging in from the other side of the pitch to strike a guy in the head area. Whether it was a push to the head or a strike the the head is rather irrelevant.

    If he'd questioned O'Brien being on the field after striking out at Cooper, that would be reasonable, or a number of other descisions that went against Dublin, including a couple of clear picks off the ground, that would have been fine. But to suggest that any of the cards were influenced by Kerry players as he suggested was poor judgement.

    (Also in response to whether Donaghy is the most dislikeable footballer in Ireland... not by a longshot. Donaghy gives as good as he gets, isn't slow in getting involved in a schmozzle, and will trash talk all day, which is his most dislikeable feature IMO. However, there are plenty of footballers around the country that are sly, filthy and do things to put other players in danger (throwing guys into the hoarding for example). You'd never see Donaghy stamp on an injured players ankle or the likes ;) )


    EDIT: The only comment that I was disappointed with was saying "I am happy with how my players conducted themselves". I wouldn't be! A lot of lads let themselves down for both sides getting involved in off the ball rubbish, and leaving late elbows and fists in. I don't think Fitzmaurice is happy with some of the stupid fouls committed by Kerry, and the melee at the end, despite the result. Those sort of incidents can get you in trouble down the line, and Kerry are already picking up a repuation having been involved in a scrap in the last 3 close games we were in (Mayo Replay, Donegal and Yesterday)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    I was up in a well known trainers yard last year, watching the horses being rode out on the gallops at 7.00am on a Saturday morning but my jaysis I still think it was colder in Killarney last Sunday, but I digress :rolleyes: anyways the lad that was with me, his Dad was part of a syndicate who owned a horse that the trainer had bought at the sales for them schooled etc etc.

    I don't know how many times it had raced, but my mate was getting stuck into the trainer in a non too serious way .. jaysis that yoke you got my father is a pony... kin useless, they're throwing good money after bad on that thing. The trainer looked up at us from his cuppa ... "Don't you fackin worry, it'll win when it has to"

    This of course becomes the big leap of faith, trusting the man at the helm that he'll be true to his word - and in some respects wishing that you were in the inner circle knowing what race will be that race.

    I like Killarney, always have, be it for football matches or just a few days away. I went down last weekend confident of a good showing from Dublin but more so because the CCC2 underage football had a week off last week and it fitted in nicely with that schedule. It's never nice to see your team lose and not being privy to the internal workings of the set up, it can be hard to understand where the greater good is served by that result.

    It's clear to me that Gavin doesn't have a care for the NFL this year. I said as much before the 1st ball was thrown in - the biggest challenge for Dublin will be to make the top 4 for the semis. When Gavin talks of "a process to be followed through" in response to being asked when the big boys will come out to play, it becomes a lot like that horse trainer - Dublin will win when they have to win, and that's the leap of faith that we must take.

    There were no saints and sinners last Sunday .. just sinners and sinners. The last 2 NFL games involving Dublin were risible charades for settling old scores - and yes you do feel short changed. I think anyone that was at the game or watched it on TV would have the good grace to admit that the better team won.

    In other news there was a hugely competitive game between the seniors and the U21's the week before last, which may have been part of Gavins "process to be followed" - O'Moore Park this weekend may hold some of the answers. Ta


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    I think OGara may revert to an impact sub role. With defenders fresher and not on ticks/yellows he has much less freedom. Coming in off the bench I think he can be more effective.
    James Mccaffrey is playing such excellent stuff right now I think ye should seriously consider him for midfield or half forward. He looks really assured in his passing n shooting. Mix into that MDMA/OSullivan returning and thats a really strong middle third.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    McCaffrey has to be played at Wing Forward IMO.

    Totally exposed as a defender in big games (Kerry v Dublin 2013 and Dublin v Donegal 2014 to name 2), but a wonderful attacking prospect. Electric pace, good point scorer and gets the odd cracking goal.

    A half forward line of Flynn, Connolly, McCaffrey would cause any team difficulty IMO.

    However, with my Kerry hat on, proceed with him at half-back... nothing to see here! ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    O'Gara should be nowhere near the starting lineup for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    McCaffrey has to be played at Wing Forward IMO.

    Totally exposed as a defender in big games (Kerry v Dublin 2013 and Dublin v Donegal 2014 to name 2), but a wonderful attacking prospect. Electric pace, good point scorer and gets the odd cracking goal.

    A half forward line of Flynn, Connolly, McCaffrey would cause any team difficulty IMO.

    However, with my Kerry hat on, proceed with him at half-back... nothing to see here! ;)
    Mccaffrey is alot bigger n stronger now for tackling as a defender. But I agree with you would be lethal forward line of potentially:
    Flynn Connolly Mccaffrey
    Costello McManamon B. Brogan
    Then ya have Rock/Andrews/OGara.
    One tactic I'm suprised Dublin haven't tried is to pick Cian OSullivan corner forward but play him out around the middle. I'v always followed his kick passing closely n he can pick out guys with accuracy n is great as a running threat. At midfield he has to get involved with more defensive duties at times. Picked in the corner he has a bit more licence to stay around the 45. Dublin have sufficient cover at midfield once MDMA is back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    O'Gara should be nowhere near the starting lineup for me.

    He does offer a tank of a player who is hard to knock off the ball but he doesn't seem to offer very much else !
    I would be using him as a sub and that's about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    He does offer a tank of a player who is hard to knock off the ball but he doesn't seem to offer very much else !
    I would be using him as a sub and that's about it.

    I don't even think he offers that to a huge extent, he runs down cul de sacs so often, seems incapable of soloing the ball and isn't great at hitting points. He's a great finisher of goals but he doesn't get the chances often enough. Impact sub would be the most I want to see of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Dublin have used 29 players in 3 League games.Appearances+Subs for 2015 League Games

    Bastic, Denis 3
    Brady, Tomas 3
    Cooper, Jonny 3
    Costello, Cormac 3
    Currie, Sean 3 (2 Clean Sheets)
    Daly, Darren 3
    McManamon, Kevin 3
    O'Gara, Eoghan 3
    Rock, Dean 3
    McCaffrey, Jack 2+1
    Lowndes, Eric 1+2
    Carthy, Shane 2
    Culligan, Eoin 2
    Fitzsimons, Michael 2
    O'Carroll, Rory 2
    O'Conghaile, Emmett 2
    Small, John 2
    Kilkenny, Ciaran 1+1
    McMahon, Philip 1+1
    Brogan, Bernard 0+2
    Byrne, Davy (Ballymun) 0+2
    Reddin, Ciaran 0+2
    Fenton, Brian 0+2
    Andrews, Paddy 0+1
    Byrne, David (Olafs) 0+1
    Deegan, Michael 0+1
    Devereux, Nicky 0+1
    McHugh, Conor 0+1
    O'Sullivan, Cian 0+1



    Dublin have scored 3-36 and conceded 1-41 in 3 League games. Scorers 2015 League Games

    Rock, Dean 0-14
    McCaffrey, Jack 1-3
    Brogan, Bernard 1-2
    O'Gara, Eoghan 0-4
    Costello, Cormac 1-1
    McManamon, Kevin 0-3
    Brady, Tomas 0-2
    Carthy, Shane 0-2
    Kilkenny, Ciaran 0-2
    Byrne, Davy (Ballymun) 0-1
    Deegan, Michael 0-1
    O'Conghaile, Emmett 0-1

    Dublin have used 34 players in 5 O'Byrne Cup games.Appearances+Subs for 2015 O'Byrne Cup

    Brady, Tomas 5
    Culligan, Eoin 5
    Devereux, Nicky 5
    O'Conghaile, Emmett 5
    Rock, Dean 5
    Small, John 5
    Daly, Darren 5
    Fitzsimons, Michael 4+1
    Bastick, Denis 4
    O'Gara, Eoghan 4
    Hannigan, Graham 3+1
    Ryan, Philip 2+2
    Carthy, Shane 1+3
    Scully, Niall 0+4
    Costello, Cormac 3
    McManamon, Kevin 3
    Molloy, Lorcan 3 (1 Clean Sheet)
    Collins, Niall 2+1
    O'Carroll, Rory 2+1
    Cooper, Jonny 1+2
    Dawson, Harry 1+2
    Lowndes, Stuart 0+3
    Currie, Sean 2 (1 Clean Sheet)
    McCaffrey, Jack 1+1
    Dunleavy, Craig 1+1
    Deegan, Michael 0+2
    Kavanagh, Ian 0+2
    Macauley, Michael Darragh 0+2
    O'Higgins, Paddy 0+2
    McCarrick, Alan 0+1
    McGowan, Ross 0+1
    McGuire, Conor 0+1
    McLoughlin, Diarmuid 0+1
    McMahon, Philip 0+1

    Dublin have scored 3-80 and conceded 3-43 in 5 O'Byrne Cup games. Scorers 2015 O'Byrne Cup Games

    Rock, Dean 0-38
    O'Gara, Eoghan 2-7
    McManamon, Kevin 1-6
    Brady, Tomas 0-7
    O'Conghaile, Emmett 0-6
    Carthy, Shane 0-5
    Ryan, Philip 0-3
    Costello, Cormac 0-2
    Deegan, Michael 0-2
    Cooper, Jonny 0-1
    Culligan, Eoin 0-1
    McLoughlin, Diarmuid 0-1
    Scully, Niall 0-1


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