Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

ProudDUB

Slatts is famous on the Twitter machine now.

https://twitter.com/Hill16Army

Be great if we got that trending.

Slattsy

I robbed that myself, jesus i wouldnt know the first thing about photoshopping and the like, can barely open a laptop.

smileyj1987

Slattsy wrote: »

Hear there's a new lad being shunted into the starting 15 for Saturday is DC doesnt make it.
Anyone know his name?

I have a beard I have no problems shaving it to glue it onto Dermos face.

Ace2007

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Do players have to attend these proceedings? Like, did Connolly have to attend last night, and again tonight? No idea what Connolly works as or if he works at all. But would be a serious strain if you have to be working during the day between all this.

I'm sure the company he works for won't mine too much. I know that most of the Dublin lads would have jobs, but I can't imagine any manager/company would be strict on them a week before a big match.

Dyr

Slattsy wrote: »

Hear there's a new lad being shunted into the starting 15 for Saturday is DC doesnt make it.
Anyone know his name?

Sure isn't that young Connell Dermody? Decent player by all accounts, he was over in the states on a J1 for the last few year *cough*

Slattsy

Unsuccessful.

ProudDUB

Well boll0cks to that anyway....

Slattsy

To me it was a foregone conclusion. I didn't expect any other outcome.

CurryFlavoured

Few twitter pages saying unsuccessful.

corny

Not to worry. He'll be back for the final.

CurryFlavoured

It would've been a joke if we had nobody suspended after that slop tbh. Not the end of the World, now let's bate the bijaysus ourra dem.

ProudDUB

No official word yet, but Mossy Quinn just tweeted a thumbs down and that's as good as....

Not the end of the world, he doesn't usually put in big games against Mayo and we DO have what it takes to beat this shower without him. Even if he got off, the odds would be good that he'd be fairly subdued after all this kerfuffle.

As long as we:

Give away fewer silly, sloppy frees
Have better structure to the kick outs
Get better ball into the full forwards, especially BB.
Protect any lead we have, as the game winds down.

Take care of them & it's job done.

Bret Hart

**** it anyway. No point in appealing again after tonight,he'll be back for the final.

ultrapercy

Bret Hart wrote: »

**** it anyway. No point in appealing again after tonight,he'll be back for the final.

The Pope maybe ? Just explain that he didn't even use his knuckle dusters, has to get off.

Genghis Cant

Slattsy wrote: »

Hear there's a new lad being shunted into the starting 15 for Saturday is DC doesnt make it.
Anyone know his name?

Finally a picture of that most elusive of GAA players...... A.N. Other :-)

Great to see him looking well after all these years!

Slattsy

Have the DCB contacted OJ Simpsons legal team yet?

DoctaDee

Slattsy wrote: »

Have the DCB contacted OJ Simpsons legal team yet?

... and this is indeed the point - DC is guilty as sin of striking. The fact that they got the previous 2 cases (and the Keane case in particular) spectacularly wrong gave hope that 2 wrongs would make a right. What better example could the whole appeals process use to vindicate themselves than to dig in on Connolly ?

not yet

Can't see Dublin being beaten tomorrow, lets be honest here, Dublin are a better team then Mayo and all things being equal should win by 3-5 points tomorrow...now Kerry are a different kettle of potatoes.

Slattsy

DoctaDee wrote: »

... and this is indeed the point - DC is guilty as sin of striking. The fact that they got the previous 2 cases (and the Keane case in particular) spectacularly wrong gave hope that 2 wrongs would make a right. What better example could the whole appeals process use to vindicate themselves than to dig in on Connolly ?

There's no doubt he's guilty, Keane's was a straight shot into Murphy's jaw. With very little provation. Connolly had 2 sly dogs working on him, yet him ban is upheld. Just stinks.

There's a precedent set, it should be overturned.

Ace2007

It's reported that Jim Gavin included DC in the squad, for if he doesn't and the appeal is successful he can't then include him - that has to been reported wrong?

If it's not then were down I player in the squad for the match, but let's suppose it does go to extra time? Is he then allowed on, I would have assumed he wouldn't be allowed to be named but if they don't allow him to be replaced only fair that he should be allowed play the "new" game

smileyj1987

Slattsy wrote: »

There's no doubt he's guilty, Keane's was a straight shot into Murphy's jaw. With very little provation. Connolly had 2 sly dogs working on him, yet him ban is upheld. Just stinks.

There's a precedent set, it should be overturned.

I said the same pretty much yesterday , last minute of an intense game and he is pulled and dragged out of the way he was. Not one person can say they wouldn't react in a similar fashion at all.

happyoutscan

Slattsy wrote: »

With very little provation.

Take another look, Keane was seriously provoked Slattsy, without a doubt.

happyoutscan

Ace2007 wrote: »

only fair that he should be allowed play the "new" game

Ffs are you serious?

ultrapercy

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I said the same pretty much yesterday , last minute of an intense game and he is pulled and dragged out of the way he was. Not one person can say they wouldn't react in a similar fashion at all.

Yes he should be allowed repeatedly punch an opponent, it's only fair.

happyoutscan

By the way, as much as I detest Connolly the person I'd have had no real problem if the red had been rescinded. He's a fantastic player but a liability for ye.

Ace2007

happyoutscan wrote: »

Ffs are you serious?

Did you decide to ignore my whole post and just quote one line?

It's reported that he was included in the squad, cause if he won his appeal he can't be added - I don't think that's right so I queried it here

If he is in fact allowed to be named in the squad, but banned from the match which seems a ridiculous situation to be in, the if it goes to extra time, that's considered a "new" game by some rules in GAA.

I also read today that out of 7 red cards appealed, 6 have been successful -

Slattsy

happyoutscan wrote: »

Take another look, Keane was seriously provoked Slattsy, without a doubt.

Think it was just a bit of oushing and shoving? (off top of me noggin)

Thats part and parcel.

Kavrocks

Ace2007 wrote: »

It's reported that Jim Gavin included DC in the squad, for if he doesn't and the appeal is successful he can't then include him - that has to been reported wrong?

No that's correct. If Connolly isn't named in the squad and he gets off on appeal, say tonight, then he can't play. It was one of these stupid rules brought in at Congress because some people were annoyed that teams never line out as they are in match programs, as if its some big secret how a team will line out.

Ace2007 wrote: »

If it's not then were down 1 player in the squad for the match, but let's suppose it does go to extra time? Is he then allowed on, I would have assumed he wouldn't be allowed to be named but if they don't allow him to be replaced only fair that he should be allowed play the "new" game

If Connolly is named in the squad but doesn't win his appeal then yes Dublin will be down to (I think) 25 instead of 26 (I think this was changed at congress this year but I can't find a reference to it).

No he won't be allowed play if the game goes to extra time. Extra time is not a "new" game it is an extension of the original game and any players suspended for the original game are still suspended during extra time just as any player sent off in normal time is not allowed to play in extra time. This is detailed in Rule 2.6 of Rules of Specification.

Ace2007 wrote: »

I also read today that out of 7 red cards appealed, 6 have been successful

Connolly's is the only one I can find reference to during the Championship that was not successful.

ThunbergsAreGo

Kavrocks wrote: »

No he won't be allowed play if the game goes to extra time. Extra time is not a "new" game it is an extension of the original game and any players suspended for the original game are still suspended during extra time just as any player sent off in normal time is not allowed to play in extra time. This is detailed in Rule 2.6 of Rules of Specification.


Connolly's is the only one I can find reference to during the Championship that was not successful.

Is this new?

Paulzx

ultrapercy wrote: »

Yes he should be allowed repeatedly punch an opponent, it's only fair.

Any vidoe I've seen I've only been able to make out one punch.

Yes it was a strike.

Yes it was a red card

Yes there was provacation

Ehhh..and No he didn't repeatedly punch Keegan from what I've seen.

Kavrocks

naughtb4 wrote: »

Is this new?

No. You may be confusing it with teams able to start extra time with 15 players again. They can't however use anybody who was sent off in normal time.

smileyj1987

ultrapercy wrote: »

Yes he should be allowed repeatedly punch an opponent, it's only fair.

Well I guess you didn't read my post properly or chose to ignore what it was saying. Things happen in the heat of the moment and well you can lash out its just common sense.

Peist2007

Ace2007 wrote: »

Did you decide to ignore my whole post and just quote one line?

It's reported that he was included in the squad, cause if he won his appeal he can't be added - I don't think that's right so I queried it here

If he is in fact allowed to be named in the squad, but banned from the match which seems a ridiculous situation to be in, the if it goes to extra time, that's considered a "new" game by some rules in GAA.

I also read today that out of 7 red cards appealed, 6 have been successful -

And if Connolly was in the middle of that bunch you'd have the conspiracy you seek. The fact that he was the 7th case up supports the notion that he was unlucky rather than "wronged"

ThunbergsAreGo

Kavrocks wrote: »

No. You may be confusing it with teams able to start extra time with 15 players again. They can't however use anybody who was sent off in normal time.

That is exactly what i am doing

Brusna

Slattsy wrote: »

Think it was just a bit of oushing and shoving? (off top of me noggin)

Thats part and parcel.

It's on YouTube. It was a harsh red. 9 times out of 10 it's a yellow for both players.

Defiler Of The Coffin

corny wrote: »

Not to worry. He'll be back for the final.

Bret Hart wrote: »

**** it anyway. No point in appealing again after tonight,he'll be back for the final.

Indeed, back for the O'Byrne final

Slattsy

Brusna wrote: »

It's on YouTube. It was a harsh red. 9 times out of 10 it's a yellow for both players.

He swung a punch and connected

Am i thinking of something else.?

Defiler Of The Coffin

Slattsy wrote: »

He swung a punch and connected

Am i thinking of something else.?

I looked at it a number of times and I didn't see any punch being thrown. A hand/slap to the face was all it was. The red card should probably have been upheld but obviously the CCC saw mitigating factors which they didn't see in Connolly's case.

The whole Kevin Keane thing is moot anyway. Connolly deserved his red card, end of story. You simply can't determine on these things based on what other bans have or haven't been handed out. All these cries about 'consistency' are just toys being thrown out of the pram IMO.

Kalyke

Just posted this in the Mayo thread. Interesting stuff..

http://www.the42.ie/diarmuid-connolly-dublin-dra-2310964-Sep2015/

RogerThis

Any word on Rory O' Carroll? Did he get concussed last Sunday?

Slattsy

RogerThis wrote: »

Any word on Rory O' Carroll? Did he get concussed last Sunday?

No, his eye closed up and needed 10 stitches from the vicious assault he was on the wrong end of. Should be ok tomorrow.

Brusna

Slattsy wrote: »

He swung a punch and connected

Am i thinking of something else.?

Did you look at it again?
I thought he made a swipe with a half closed hand go get Murphy to release his grip. In my opinion it should have been yellow for both players and I guess the guys in the CPC had the same opinion and rescinded the red to yellow.
Most people down here (in Mayo) also believe it was a red as well and that it should have stood but most people didn't look at the incident again and can only remember the close up slow motion bit which I admit looks bad. In any case its history now.

RogerThis

Slattsy wrote: »

No, his eye closed up and needed 10 stitches from the vicious assault he was on the wrong end of. Should be ok tomorrow.

OK, very quick recover for an eye that was closed up. Did he really get stitches?

Slattsy

RogerThis wrote: »

OK, very quick recover for an eye that was closed up. Did he really get stitches?

Swelling will go down after a few days. 10 stitches. He'll be ok

Peist2007

Slattsy wrote: »

Swelling will go down after a few days. 10 stitches. He'll be ok

Wasnt a vicious assault. Get over yourself.

RogerThis

Slattsy wrote: »

Swelling will go down after a few days. 10 stitches. He'll be ok

10 stitches are a lot. It must have been a really big cut. For example this rugby player only got 7 stitches. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-1288547/Dan-Coles-stitches-kick-eye-I-played-England-team-won-Australia.html

Billy Mays

Have it on good authority from someone with Crokes that Rory didn't have to get any stitches

The barber of chewbacca

I really hope Dublin have worked on the tackle and they don't give away as many kickable frees. My only worry is that they gave a lot of kickable frees away against Fermanagh. It could be a pattern, so the bad tackling might not be easily eradicated. Obviously 2 games isn't enough to draw such conclusions and I can't recall how many kickable frees they gave away in other games this year... But it is a worry.

DoctaDee

Limited tickets on sale now on GAA site if anyone wants to try

CurryFlavoured

Billy Mays wrote: »

Have it on good authority from someone with Crokes that Rory didn't have to get any stitches

The cut didn't look that bad nor did the strike, commentator could've been talking crap.