Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

rebel girl 15

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Between this, Tierney mccann. and the Kevin kane red card the gaa proving to be a joke. Who is even on these commities and why is there 3 of them.

They need to being in stricter rules. Jesus Paul galvin must be feeling pissed off for all the bans he got over the years!

CAC and CHC are headed up by practising lawyers and former secretaries if the DRP. The DRP was introduced around ten years ago to prevent cases like this from ending up in the High Court

The GAA need to define a strike, I think that's what those reds are being overturned on, but the DRP decision will be available later on their website

RoscommonTom

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

GAA downgraded Keanes card to a yellow,but that only got to CHC, whereas Connolly went to CHC and CAC who upheld the ban, and then overturned in DRP. Doesn't matter in the interest of fairness, what Connolly did was a red and with it a one match suspension.

Problem is they are trying to make calls about force and intent and provocation which are not in the rulebook. GAA at the moment are Grants All Appeals (eventually)

Personally, if I saw a Cork player being sent off for what Connolly did and appeal, I would be ashamed of the board, and I have been on number of occasions. But given that accepting responsibility for your actions isn't a social norm in society, how can we expect it on a pitch?

your dead right, this is the same fella that got sent off in another semi final and got off with that one too, he will probably be punching again today as well knowing him

jacko

1 word -> farce

but1er

As I said Connolly couldn get banned! Right decision should of been cleared 3 days! Now The gaa look like a joke!

I wonder who Connolly will get to assault today ? What a laughing stock the GAA have made of themselves. This will be thrown back at the GAA and Dublin as special treatment for years to come. A win for Dublin today will be tainted as it will be seen as assisted by the GAA HQ. Its embarrassing that the county board went this far, they will be slagged about this for years to come.

This is the second time the St. Vincent’s man has escaped censure despite being shown the line in an All-Ireland semi-final. In 2011 he was allowed to play in Dublin’s win over Kerry even though he had been sent off by Maurice Deegan for striking Donegal’s Marty Boyle three weeks previously

jimmytwotimes 2013

No player should ever serve a ban for striking ever again. They could cite numerous cases of fellas getting away with it and threaten legal action if a ban was imposed.

Connolly got away with striking before and has again, why would he stop belting fellas now?

Todays atmosphere will have an edge to it. As another poster said above Galvin and any other player who got vilified (deservedly so), in the recent past, for similar behaviour must be in disbelief.

TCDStudent1

For those of you in the know about appeal hearings , would Connolly have to attend each of those hearings the last few nights? Can't think of a worse way to prepare for today's match.

dunnerc

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

GAA downgraded Keanes card to a yellow,but that only got to CHC, whereas Connolly went to CHC and CAC who upheld the ban, and then overturned in DRP. Doesn't matter in the interest of fairness, what Connolly did was a red and with it a one match suspension.

Problem is they are trying to make calls about force and intent and provocation which are not in the rulebook. GAA at the moment are Grants All Appeals (eventually)

Personally, if I saw a Cork player being sent off for what Connolly did and appeal, I would be ashamed of the board, and I have been on number of occasions. But given that accepting responsibility for your actions isn't a social norm in society, how can we expect it on a pitch?

Well we can go on with this forever,and if that's the way you feel ref cork player and board that's your decision personally I feel what Connolly did was wrong,but can understand why he did it he was deliberately taken out of the game by keegan and was being held in a head lock,so I'm not ashamed of the board,they done what they had to do. roll on 5 OCLOCK COYBIB....

AngryDiMaria

Don't be so butt hurt lads and enjoy the game this evening

Meglamonia

Have to laugh at people coming in here giving out ****e about Connolly, where was the outrage when Keane got his red card rescinded?

And what's with all the comments "Who's he going to punch today? And he'll be sent off today knowing him"

Speaking as a neutral, I'm delighted Connolly has got off, he was clearly targeted and dragged to the ground off the ball which annoys me and COC acted consistently by what he had done throughout the whole game by whinging in the officials ear, it's still beyond me how he was awarded MOTM, by McStay of course.

Anyway, on the game Dublin to win by 5 with Connolly having a big influence.

Nidgeweasel

Ridiculous Connolly has been allowed to play.

In a way I'm happy though, Keane should never have been cleared.

The GAA need to box this off now and grow a set of bollocks.

A strike is a red card and carries a suspension. End of story.

thee glitz

How do you get a suspension rescinded without a red card being overturned - is it not automatic? Are they saying the ref was wrong to send Connolly off or that, while a red was warranted, he has been punished enough?

TCDStudent1

Meglamonia wrote: »

Have to laugh at people coming in here giving out ****e about Connolly, where was the outrage when Keane got his red card rescinded?

And what's with all the comments "Who's he going to punch today? And he'll be sent off today knowing him"

Speaking as a neutral, I'm delighted Connolly has got off, he was clearly targeted and dragged to the ground off the ball which annoys me and COC acted consistently by what he had done throughout the whole game by whinging in the officials ear, it's still beyond me how he was awarded MOTM, by McStay of course.

Anyway, on the game Dublin to win by 5 with Connolly having a big influence.

I'm also a neutral and glad I'll be watching one of the most talented players today.

However the suspension should've stuck. He struck and got a red. He should be suspended. The problem all arose from rescinding keanes red which should never have been rescinded.

Interestingly Dublin could've used it as a siege mentality thing if Connolly did not get off. Now Mayo can use it that way.

Meglamonia

Meglamonia wrote: »

Have to laugh at people coming in here giving out ****e about Connolly, where was the outrage when Keane got his red card rescinded?

Keane got downgraded to a yellow he wasn't cleared so he got some censure. Connolly who was lying on somebody punching them in the head has been cleared completely. That has serious repercussions as there is not much worse you can do. It means all red cards going forward are pointless. Shockingly bad sportsmanship from Dublin GAA and a farce from HQ.

If anything was needed to galvanise the Mayo team this is it.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wonder who Connolly will get to assault today ? What a laughing stock the GAA have made of themselves. This will be thrown back at the GAA and Dublin as special treatment for years to come. A win for Dublin today will be tainted as it will be seen as assisted by the GAA HQ. Its embarrassing that the county board went this far, they will be slagged about this for years to come.

This is the second time the St. Vincent’s man has escaped censure despite being shown the line in an All-Ireland semi-final. In 2011 he was allowed to play in Dublin’s win over Kerry even though he had been sent off by Maurice Deegan for striking Donegal’s Marty Boyle three weeks previously

This is an absolute disgrace of a post.

The last day Connolly doesn't punch anyone if Lee Keegan doesn't wrestle him to the ground. I'm not saying that Connolly didn't deserve the red card the last day, but it was Keegan who committed the assault and the sheer bias in this post is horrendous.

salmocab

The whole appeals system is a joke, that said Dublin were right to appeal this till the end. Any other county would have done the same. It was a red for Connolly but so were others over the season and the GAA can't change their systems mid season. They badly need to sort out the disciplinary systems before next season.

That all said, as a Dub I'm delighted that he's available today but would wonder how he will go given all the carry on during the week.

TCDStudent1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Keane got downgraded to a yellow he wasn't cleared. Connolly who was lying on somebody punching them in the head has been cleared. That has serious repercussions as there is not much worse you can do. It means all red cards going forward are pointless. Shockingly bad sportsmanship from Dublin GAA and a farce from HQ.

Now I completely agree the suspension should have stood.

But there is no evidence anywhere of where Connolly actually punched keegan. You do not see where the punch lands on keegans body. So you are doing yourself a disservice by saying Connolly punched him in the head.

You must also remember that keegan was up 10 seconds later so whatever Connolly did did not have anything near the same consequences as cillian o'connors reckless use of his arm.

Make your point about Connolly but at least try to be balanced and honest in that point!

dunnerc

Deleted User wrote: »

Keane got downgraded to a yellow he wasn't cleared so he got some censure. Connolly who was lying on somebody punching them in the head has been cleared completely. That has serious repercussions as there is not much worse you can do. It means all red cards going forward are pointless. Shockingly bad sportsmanship from Dublin GAA and a farce from HQ.

And it wasn't shockly bad sportsmanship from mayo GAA??:rolleyes:

DoctaDee

Oh oh the level of vitriol against us in our own thread ?- can only imagine the fires raging elsewhere. As I said yesterday he was guilty as sin it's been a shambolic year for the administration of our game.

Make it count at 5 Diarmuid

JRant

It's clearly the curse of '51 at play here.

Dermo to score a last second winner.

Now i must get on the road i've a game to see, May the best team win enjoy the day

thee glitz

Meglamonia wrote: »

And what's with all the comments "Who's he going to punch today? And he'll be sent off today knowing him"

It's a fair comment, he has form and he won't be the hardest to wind up. ill put a few quid on it if I get a decent price but currently PP aren't quoting him in that market.

TCDStudent1

JRant wrote: »

It's clearly the curse of '51 at play here.

Dermo to score a last second winner.

Man that'd drive some Mayo fans over the edge kudu going by the comments on here! Dublin fans would have to run for cover if that happens!

Personally, I suspect Connolly will have a poor match, preparation must've been terrible for this match with all this appeal stuff.

Slattsy

Great reading.

Back to sleep I go with a huge.... Smile.

DoctaDee

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wonder who Connolly will get to assault today ? What a laughing stock the GAA have made of themselves. This will be thrown back at the GAA and Dublin as special treatment for years to come. A win for Dublin today will be tainted as it will be seen as assisted by the GAA HQ. Its embarrassing that the county board went this far, they will be slagged about this for years to come.

This is the second time the St. Vincent’s man has escaped censure despite being shown the line in an All-Ireland semi-final. In 2011 he was allowed to play in Dublin’s win over Kerry even though he had been sent off by Maurice Deegan for striking Donegal’s Marty Boyle three weeks previously

FFS talk about getting your excuses in early. .. add it to the list just under curse and cormac reilly. Be annoyed about the decision no problem but that's just risible

DanTomKelly

salmocab wrote: »

The whole appeals system is a joke, that said Dublin were right to appeal this till the end. Any other county would have done the same. It was a red for Connolly but so were others over the season and the GAA can't change their systems mid season. They badly need to sort out the disciplinary systems before next season.

That all said, as a Dub I'm delighted that he's available today but would wonder how he will go given all the carry on during the week.

Will people stop talking about Keane and Connolly.
The crux of the issue is that the GAA are unable to administer their own rules.
GAA should hang their heads in shame.

ProudDUB

.....wakes up...

....rubs eyes...

....damm, that was one weird dream...

Faugheen

thee glitz wrote: »

It's a fair comment, he has form and he won't be the hardest to wind up. ill put a few quid on it if I get a decent price but currently PP aren't quoting him in that market.

I wonder whose eye Cillian O'Connor will take out today? Or I wonder who Aidan O'Shea will pull in by the collar and then claim to be headbutted by?

They both have form after all.

Nobody is denying that Connolly has a form for lashing out, but he doesn't do it in every single f*cking game.

Being honest, I think it's a disgrace that teams target him and nothing is done about it. Totally unsportsmanlike. There's a lil bit of slagging that happens all the time but then there's full-on sledging, which isn't on. Both red cards Connolly has got in semi's is him retaliating, which is something the GAA really needs to look at.

He's one of the most talented players to play the game, but is seeing his career ruined because teams target him to get him sent off. I honestly think that's as much a disgrace as striking is.

JRant

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Man that'd drive some Mayo fans over the edge kudu going by the comments on here! Dublin fans would have to run for cover if that happens!

Personally, I suspect Connolly will have a poor match, preparation must've been terrible for this match with all this appeal stuff.

It won't have been ideal prep but most of it would have been video analysis and drills, especially in the tackle area.

I think he'll come out flying. The county board put a lot of effort in to his case and he'll want to repay them with a performance.

One thing you can be certain of and that's Jim will have drilled into their heads the importance of discipline today. He's the right man to keep the heads calm and get them focusing on football. Wouldn't say he was too pleased with the carryon last week.

munster87

Faugheen wrote: »

I wonder whose Cillian O'Connor will take out today? Or I wonder who Aidan O'Shea will pull in by the collar and then claim to be headbutted by?

They both have form after all.

Nobody is denying that Connolly has a form for lashing out, but he doesn't do it in every single f*cking game.

Being honest, I think it's a disgrace that teams target him and nothing is done about it. Totally unsportsmanlike. There's a lil bit of slagging that happens all the time but then there's full-on sledging, which isn't on. Both red cards Connolly has got in semi's is him retaliating, which is something the GAA really needs to look at.

He's one of the most talented players to play the game, but is seeing his career ruined because teams target him to get him sent off. I honestly think that's as much a disgrace as striking is.

No point in arguing about it. 7 out of 7 red cards rescinded this year. It's a joke. At least it's a fair joke. No backing for referees whatsoever. Can't believe you're insinuating that Philly didn't throw in the head though

rebel girl 15

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

For those of you in the know about appeal hearings , would Connolly have to attend each of those hearings the last few nights? Can't think of a worse way to prepare for today's match.

From previous DRP hearings I think it would a solicitor appearing on their behalf

Faugheen

munster87 wrote: »

No point in arguing about it. 7 out of 7 red cards rescinded this year. It's a joke. At least it's a fair joke. No backing for referees whatsoever. Can't believe you're insinuating that Philly didn't throw in the head though

I've seen footage that clearly shows Aidan grabbing him by the collar, pulling him in and them glancing heads. No sign of Philly leaning in with the head.

JRant

munster87 wrote: »

No point in arguing about it. 7 out of 7 red cards rescinded this year. It's a joke. At least it's a fair joke. No backing for referees whatsoever. Can't believe you're insinuating that Philly didn't throw in the head though

There's no insinuating about it. The footage clearly shows there was no headbutt, end of story.

TCDStudent1

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

From previous DRP hearings I think it would a solicitor appearing on their behalf

Interesting. I'd love to attend one to see what happens in them. Happy moderating today, you could have a busy day ahead! :-)

Westernyelp

Can we all put the BS behind us now and go out and play football. these two teams are capable of some brilliant stuff and I am looking forward to seeing it today. let the teams do the talking now and let the best one win. ( as long as it's mayo! )

Slattsy

I'm going to an early house!

tritium

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

It's the same in every sport the world over.

Player x may be a scumbag/drugs cheat/wife beater etc, but he is our scumbag/drugs cheat/wife beater.

Pretty much bang on, Cantona, Suarez, hope solo, rice in the NFL. By comparison the GAA lads are mostly angels.

Not surprised he got off, the GAA were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. Basically they set a stupid precedent with Keane, if a strike is red its nonsense to make it a retrospective yellow and pretend you've retained some kind of censure. Equally by doing nothing about more violent incidents on both sides last week they set a bar that DC was well under. After the championship they need to take a major look at the whole process

BonnieSituation

There's a fear here that I'm leading a parallel life with Slattsy.

*turns over and goes back to sleep*

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Delighted that we'll have him play. But amazed that we will.

I much preferred this thread when it was so quiet leading up to the first game.
An oasis of calm.

thee glitz

It's awful that games are ruined when players try to get others sent off. I think Connolly's a lost cause though. Did he do the anger management course that time? I'm looking forward to a great game today. Hopefully it will be played in the right spirit but it seems to be win at any cost these days.

kona

Faugheen wrote: »

This is an absolute disgrace of a post.

The last day Connolly doesn't punch anyone of Lee Keegan doesn't wrestle him to the ground. I'm not saying that Connolly didn't deserve the red card they last day, but it was Keegan who committed the assault and the sheer bias in this post is horrendous.

The Mayo tears are so bitter they are sweet. Dublin by 5 and another year of nothing for the roasters.

munster87

JRant wrote: »

There's no insinuating about it. The footage clearly shows there was no headbutt, end of story.

I disagree so yeah, end of story. New game, new battles, new mistakes today by officials, but it will be enjoyable.

ProudDUB

Jaysus Slatts...up 'till 5am...fair play. Hope you don't nod off during the game.

Nidgeweasel

JRant wrote: »

Dermo to score a last second winner.

God I hope so.

Flukey

From a Dublin perspective, it is great that we have one of our best players playing. However, it is a bit crazy the way red cards can be overturned at times. If the player is not the one that committed the foul or the opposition players dives without having been touched, or just had his perm interfered with, then fair enough, rescind the card. But if a player has done something deserving of a card, then he should walk and not have the card rescinded. As to the match let's hope that Aslan and another set of Dubs will put in a great performance in Croke Park this evening. Up the Dubs.

"How can I get cleared in this craaaaazy world?"

JRant

munster87 wrote: »

I disagree so yeah, end of story. New game, new battles, new mistakes today by officials, but it will be enjoyable.

Should be a great atmosphere as well. Really looking forward to it.

CurryFlavoured

Joke decision, could make for some rough stuff today. Still no team announcement?!

JRant

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Joke decision, could make for some rough stuff today. Still no team announcement?!

The first sign of it today and the ref has to start issuing cards. An early black or red will put manners on the lot of them.

Barlett

kona wrote: »

The Mayo tears are so bitter they are sweet. Dublin by 5 and another year of nothing for the roasters.

Jesus Connelly gets off & some people still come across with a massive chip on their shoulder. Mayo are great at moaning at all the injustices they suffer but after this week at least they know they have competition there too

Slattsy

ProudDUB wrote: »

Jaysus Slatts...up 'till 5am...fair play. Hope you don't nod off during the game.

Bringing you news as it happens, when it happens!

tradhead

JRant wrote: »

The first sign of it today and the ref has to start issuing cards. An early black or red will put manners on the lot of them.

Why would it put manners on them, after this morning's decision? Sure a red card clearly isn't that big a deal if you appeal hard enough!

I'd say the referee will have a very difficult time trying to keep smacht on them.